Kavanaugh accuser comes forward with story of violent rape attempt
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The woman who wrote a letter accusing Trump Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault is now coming forward, motivated by the publicizing of her original letter and by a "civic responsibility" to tell the story. Her account is harrowing .
While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.
“I thought he might inadvertently kill me,” said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California. “He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.”
Her account of the "rape attempt" is backed up by therapist's notes dating from 2012-2013; she also passed a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent. While she strongly wished to retain her privacy, she reversed course after contacts with reporters and public reports of her letter led her to believe she would possibly be exposed anyway.
The woman, Christine Ford, directly identifies Kavanaugh classmate Mark Judge as a witness to the event–notable because Judge declared in an interview only days ago that "I never saw Brett act that way." Judge did not respond to the Washington Post's requests for comment. Kavanaugh himself “categorically and unequivocally” denied the allegation last week; he will now be called upon to further explain himself.
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Republican Sen. Jeff Flake on Kavanaugh: 'For me, we
can't vote until we hear more'
Sen. Jeff Flake is the first Republican member of the Judiciary Committee to publicly say the committee should not move forward on the Supreme Court nomination of Brett Kavanaugh until further information is gathered relating to the incident related by Christine Blasey Ford, who came forward today to describe a violent sexual assault by Kavanaugh .
It's good to see that there's at least one ethical Republican.
I think we will also hear something unflattering related to Kavanaugh's witness Mark Judge.
Judge was Kavanaugh's close friend and roommate so his statement defending Kavanaugh isn't surprising.
It sounds like everyone was drunk so even if Judge's current statement is honest would he be likely to remember it since he wasn't the sexual assault victim?
I read somewhere today that Judge wrote in the high school yearbook that some women need to be slapped around. I'm still looking for the source cause I forgot where I saw it. It'll turn up.
Judge will be useless as a character witness for Kavanaugh.
Like Bill Clinton did, for example?.
And after 35 years, only ONE accuser?? Sorry, this allegation will go nowhere. His accuser is a far left agitator who spent the weekend cleaning up her Facebook page so her real agenda is hidden.
I doubt it
I hardly think so, she a liar because she is on the opposite side of the fence? Just like you like to proclaim that anyone of color who DARE talk against the D party is a "token"? They are not ALLOWED to speak for them selves.... they are just "token", Honestly, if I were a person of color, I would find everything you say offensive.... Telling me I am a "token" because I don't vote like you do and you know what is "best for me" friggen GTFOH with that crap. Enough is enough with this "token" shit!!!! They are "token" because they are black or Hispanic and don't "toe the fucking line", "Get you asses BACK to that Democratic line!!!!" Don't yall know your lives depend on it????? FFS, GTFOH...... People are not "token", they are fucking people who DO NOT AGREE with you..... That is OK
I doubt it, but y'all are hoping for it.... it's kind of sick......
OMG!!! LIKE, he was at a party, and like, I thought he liked me and like..... GTFOH..... Y'all, seriously..... He attemped to rape lots of girls....????? WTF???? This is how rumors get started, Seriously, stop
She is not a liar just because you adore the Democratic party and they can do no wrong..... what about Paula Jones? Is she a liar?
It kind of is your problem....... you are starting stuff that isn't even legit......
that was crappy, I never withdrew it, my computer crapped out and I had to wait for it to charge up again, but I see what kind of person you are just by that comment. My apology still stands and there is no other "hissy fit". Nice "chatting with ya"
thank you.... I never purposely delete comments. My laptop battery is on the fritz. You wernt going to accept anyway as you stated.
This is unsubstantiated (and impossible to prove at this point) allegation from a lone accuser about his actions as a minor that have been strongly denied by both people she implicated.
As a nation, we need to think long and hard about making this a precedent for disqualifying people from their jobs.
For those out to get Kavanugh, be honest. IF the same allegation was made about Barack Obama while he was running for office, would you deem him unqualified to serve?
Let them all explain it to the senators.
Kavanaugh's lies are as troublesome as the event, at least until we learn the details of it.
I can't wait to see her shamed for lying and making stuff up.
Originally, you said all that happened was Kavanaugh and a friend locked a girl in a bedroom at a party. That turned out to not be true. Let's hear the whole story.
Originally, you said all that happened was Kavanaugh and a friend locked a girl in a bedroom at a party.
I relied on a liberal new source claiming to have seen the letter Democrats sat on for months. My bad.
. Let's hear the whole story.
Haven't we already? She can't remember date or place. The "witness" denies it happened and she didn't bring the allegation up to anyone for decades. What else is there? Its a he and he/she said dispute from 30 plus years ago.
Where there is one girl there is probably more than one.
And Judge is an unreliable witness at best. Reading about his past this sort of thing might have been right up his alley.
Because he writes raunchy stories? Are writers bad people in your book? What the hell has happened to the left? Anyone without a "saint" before their name is not a good person, I guess.
OK, tell us why he is a reliable witness.
That is Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge. He went under the twitter name markgjudge, as you can see. The twitter account for markgjudge has disappeared, but some twitter types have found some references to him in cache.
He is not a reliable witness for Kavanaugh. Judge was a birther , among other things and tweeted support for Infowars. Stick a fork in him.
Here's a google screen grab where markgjudge promoted a birther conspiracy video on twitter
Oh okay. Because you disagree with some of his political opinions he's suddenly disreputable. Never mind that everything coming out about this Ford woman making accusations points to a deranged lwnj.
It has become a religion. Rational thought and reason have left long ago. All that matters now is the Faith, and whether a person is a believer or infidel.
It's not "saint" before the name, it's the "letter D" after it.
He was/is a birther. Of course he's disreputable. Jeezus. He also tweeted something nice about Infowars. Fuck these people. And he's a chum of your new supreme court justice.
Do you honestly think we believe you know what 'disreputable' and 'deranged' mean? Think about it. This woman is totally credible. Try again.
Only because you want desperately to believe her.
Liberal definition of "credible": any accusation aimed at any non liberal.
Do you mean like this?
What about Kavanaugh? Was he drunk as a skunk and assaulted a girl and forgot about it?
So? Is it okay with you as long as they're drunk?
And you base this belief on...?????
Why is SHE a reliable witness?
She has agreed to testify about it, under oath, in front of Congress.
If she shows up at all that is....but since there is NO evidence of anything serious occurring, AND, no other accusations during all his adult and professional life, I suspect the Senators, especially the female Republicans, will not be swayed by this exhibit of left wing desperation, and will end up voting to confirm.
Why wouldn't she? She's come out with her identity, she backed up her story about by revealing that she has talked about the incident in 2012, and she has agreed to testify in front of Congress about it. You currently have more evidence supporting her than not, and too many Republicans wanting to force Kavanaugh thru before she can testify. That, by itself, shows that there are many that fear her testimony.
People that are lying generally refuse to testify under oath, you know, like Trump.
People lying generally prefer to remain anonymous or wait until the last minute to make their case. It's called bluffing.
Really? Because Hillarious Hillary had no problem with it. How many times couldn't she recall again?
This chick can't even remember what year it was.
I can remember a lot of life changing things from the late 70's and 80's and I'm older than her.
Also if she wasn't such a liberal nutjob I might be more apt to believe her.
And come on she is supposed to be a educated woman and she didn't think she would have to come forward after making these allegations? Get freaking real.
Less than half the number of times that Sessions or Trump Jr. couldn't recall.
She did not remain anonymous.....
Sorry, not the last minute yet. She "waited" until the man, who may have tried to rape her, suddenly was up for a position where he could further victimize women.
No, bluffing is threatening to sue everyone that says anything bad about you, then not doing it. like Trump.
If she wasn't aware he was a federal judge, then why would her husband say this?
He said he remembered his wife specifically using Kavanaugh’s name. She said during the session, Russell Ford recalled, she was scared he would one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.
The word "story" in the headline is a good description. As in a completely fictional, self serving story.
Amazing! You have come to that conclusion without knowing most of the "facts" about the story.
Although, I must admit, it does explain a lot about some of your postings.
Exactly what "facts" do you know? My guess is absolutely nothing. All the left has is unproven accusations. She can't prove her claim and knows it. It's just low class character assassination.
I know the same "facts" that you know, zero. The difference I am not judging, I am waiting and watching for actual facts. You have already decided based on zero facts.
The Left's MO :"It's the seriousness of the charge!" unless it is their guy that is being accused then it is "We have no proof that happened, so we should let him just get the office he is up for." They did it with Bill Clinton when he was elected President in 1992 despite the stories about Juanita Broadrick and Gennifer Flowers along with Paula Jones circulating at the time. Then, Clinton as part of his deal over Whitewater settled with Paula Jones for $850,000. Why don't we give Kavanaugh the same treatment as the Left gives their guys.
After we give Kavanaugh the same treatment the Right gives out. At this point the entire world has had it with these double standards, or in the case of the gop, NO standards for themselves, let alone meeting what they sow. This woman is totally credible, that stuff does happen at parties, and definitely did back in those days. Totally rings true to me, and don't give us this crap about not coming forward. When you know what women who do go through, you may have an opinion. They get their reputations ruined. Its 2018 and Kavanaugh is being judged by todays standards and no vote until this is investigated, I don't care how afraid the gop is about losing. This makes it much harder for any dem and Murkowski and Collins, among others, to vote for him. Follow your own gop rules, let the people decide, NO VOTE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
So, what you want is for the GOP to do like it always does: cave to the Left and hold someone accountable just for the accusations instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt as the Left always does to their own guys. And you show this is all political anyways, since you don't want to approve any nominee until after the election when your side might be in power. Besides, the rules that McConnell was talking about when he refused to let Obama nominees through during the 2016 election was about nominees during a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. If we started doing that every time there is an election, then there would be ZERO nominees being approved for ANY office at ANY time.
As for Kavanaugh, if this was true and the FBI missed this in 2001, 2003, and 2006; we have bigger problems than Diane Feinstein holding onto this letter for several months as this means the vetting process for White House staff and Federal Judges is deeply flawed and not as thorough as it should be. Remember the adage: Innocent until proven guilty? Right now, Kavanaugh is innocent and as these claims weren't brought up before the confirmation hearing, they should not be used as grounds to disqualify him. If they are verified after he is confirmed, then use the impeachment process to remove him. It's there for a reason, and that reason is to maintain the integrity of our system of government. Frankly, if Congress had some guts, they would impeach Rosenstein and Mueller for the Russian meddling investigation since it seems to be investigating everything EXCEPT Russian meddling in our elections. If you notice all of the plea deals result from things several years before the 2016 election and any indictments of people for Russian meddling seem to only occur when popular opinion is to scrap the investigation. Also, the investigation is not looking into the hard evidence that the Clinton campaign through the Clinton Foundation and the DNC both were colluding with foreign actors to create dirt on Trump (aka the Steele dossier) to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. The person who created the dossier was a British national with ties to Russia and a deep hatred of Trump to begin with, then used Yahoo news to write an article to bolster his claims using the claims he had already created in the dossier. Any person with an active brain cell should be able to see that something was rotten about the whole deal and the FISA warrants which relied on the resulting circular reasoning from the dossier and the news article.
With reasoning like that I hope you never sit on a jury.
No its about truth. When I bring up what republicans do it is to remind everybody what standards they have for others, never themselves. Enough. I do believe this woman, I don't think republicans and Kavanaugh have been open and honest, they seem to want to hide most of his records (fact) and ram this through before the election no matter the consequences. For a lifetime appointment. Don't see how this happens. Women already don't like his appointment, and this won't help.
So this is really just about your "feelings".
Which SCOTUS nominee put forward by a Democrat has been accused of sexual misconduct? How credible were those accusations? How exactly does a double standard exist in the absence of comparable situations?
She is only very slightly credible, at best. You only refuse to acknowledge this because of your partisan views.
It would, though. Wouldn't it. Democrats could have produced a letter claiming he sodomized an alien badger from Alpha Centauri and Justin Bieber is the love child, and we would have difficulty getting some leftists to believe it wasn't true.
Do you deny that the timing is phenomenally, amazingly, and incredibly convenient?
I've checked on it, and...oddly enough.... we don't actually need your permission to form our own opinions. I realize that goes against the teachings of The Church of The Left, but I'm going to risk it.
It's not actually 1958. Further, failure to report a crime for fear of one's "reputation" represents a significant degree of cowardice.
That's not actually up to you. Kinda like the whole "who gets to have an opinion" question.
I haven't polled them, but I suspect they don't care about your opinions, either. It's not as though you are likely to vote for one anyway.
I am glad you admit that the ploy is political.
I think you have the roles reversed. The Democrats never hold their own to account, otherwise Bill Clinton would have been successfully impeached for PERJURY to the Whitewater Grand Jury. He lied under oath, EVERYONE knows that and he admitted it in his agreement to lose his law license with the Whitewater Investigation. But, Democrat voted in lockstep to keep him in office despite all the glaring evidence. Just think about this, if the Democrats had held Bill Clinton accountable, we might have had Al Gore as President on 9/11/2001...
Did you really pivot to "Hillary...Dossier.... Russia....Collusion..".? L O fricken L! Give it up, that projection crap only works with the Trump base, everybody else is well beyond that 'fake news'. You really need to remember where this bullshit comes from, straight out of Trump's ass, fertilized by Russian trolls and bots. Not real.
I think it is time to bring out the year books and let the accusing begin - I am not saying this woman is lieing (not even close to that) .. but wow - raise your hand if you never did something stupid at a high school party - (not defending Kavanaugh) ….. but where is the line to be drawn on sexual assault / misconduct?
I am curious if Kavanaugh is mentioned in these therapist's notes, and why it took so long .. the man has been on the bench for years .. yet the assault only now comes to light when he is almost confirmed as a supreme court justice .. a long time member of congress sits on this letter for a period of time before handing over to the FBI ……. I ask again, where is the line on what is claimed and what can actually be proven - as 3 of they fell to the floor and she was able to free herself..
At what point does one say 'this is a step to far' .. is what someone may or may not have done in high school a fair point in time to judge ones life going forward? Should that point in time gauge who they are today.. if one is to believe the mental health / medical profession the human brain fully develops between 22'ish and 25'ish years of age ..
This claim may be true .. yet I find it irrelevant in regards to who the man has become - I do not even support Kavanaugh as the next Justice .. but this 'attempted rape' is petty game play … designed to delay the confirmation .. with wings and prayers that it may stop his confirmation...
There are plenty of books on sexual assault and how it impacts victims. I suggest you read a few before you go insulting people with no basis of understanding what they go through. This man already has shown a disrespect for women in his rulings and this needs to play out in public. Release all his records. Open up the hearings for transparency. Stop trying to push this guy through before the country finds out what a douche he is (that is my personal take away). Let this woman tell her story and he can tell his.
Dear lib50
I respect the need for drama .. seems to be a serious sky is falling moment for many … Yet please do not insult me by telling me to read a book .. I have been assaulted - and beaten for resisting.
If you had actually read my comment, you would know that I do not support Kavanaugh's nomination - apparently the need for drama blew past that … this woman is telling her story … no one is denying her the spotlight, denying her a voice is definitely not an issue when a woman shows up 20 some years later making accusations .. seems to be a theme in politics these days (as well as Hollywood, sad and pathetic that no one spoke up about Weinstein before a decade went by) ..
It's sad that the New York Times quashed a story about Weinstein and his sexual deprivations in 2004...or, he would have been out of Hollywood 14 years ago.
14 years ago no one was jumping up and down to be part of #Me too .. hard to say if New York Times had ran the story if it would have gained traction and made a difference .. think any of these Hollywood elites would have come out before now without back up and publicly accused Weinstein?
That recent young woman in detention who had done everything necessary to get an abortion and Kavanaugh put extra blocks in her path, very patronizing, misogynistic. He decided to add a few more obstacles. He has also made his position on how he'll rule on abortion clear, even as he tried to deny it in the hearing. Basic disqualifier to me to come out of the gate not on board with full women's rights to their privacy in health. He will also rule against basic rights, subverting them to corporate and religious rights. And I think he has lied to congress previously.
Here is something from a women's magazine, which is a reflection of opinion. Since men don't usually give a shit. Of course all women don't think like this, but you are asking me, and I've been a female my whole life and pay attention to this particular issue, having grown up during the movement, not taking rights for granted. I don't doubt he is a fine man now, even if he did do something stupid as a boy, but I don't think this nomination process has been proper. Too many pages of unreleased records, trying to ram it through so fast, ignoring the impact on the country and the fact half of us feel our democracy was subverted when republicans denied Obama his (very moderate) pick Merrick Garland. This is NOT NORMAL.
One also needs to ask when exactly this polygraph was conducted....this woman was not planing to come forward, her own admissions, until Senator Feinstein produced the 'letter', once again form someone that wasn't going to come forward, but now has.....because of Feinstein? So, did the senator have the letter, then the polygraph or a random polygraph about this, just in case it was ever needed?
Anyone with the tiniest bit of logic in them can see that there is something terribly wrong with this whole story, but it must be true because 'TRUMP'. I guess we can all start making accusations against everyone and bring the world to a grinding halt.
How about it must be true because the story she is telling hasn't changed since she started telling it years ago. This is the first time someone has listened to her who has had any clout in Washington.
I found an article that provides more details ...
You tell me what you think …
Hi Mr G.
Where do you come up with a story she has been telling for year .. in 2012 Ford allegedly reveal an assault that took place .. 2013 she had individual counseling for said alleged assault (not my words) .. does not seem to me (may have missed something) as if she has been telling a story to anyone that was not privileged communication, until now … I could be wrong..
I never went to parties in high school
If this is the information Feinstein had and it was so serious and horrifying, why would she sit on it? Why wouldn't she forward it to the FBI? Maryland doesn't have a statute of limitations on felony sex assault. I'm not saying this was felonious behavior, but why not forward it to local authorities in Maryland? Why wouldn't Feinstein ask him about it when they met privately? Why not alert the committee before the hearings? Why not ask him about it during the hearings?
All I can think is that Feinstein had the information and found it irrelevant or not credible. Why should we not all do the same?
Even if we accept the accusation as true, should the handsy behavior of a 17 year-old disqualify him? And before you object to my characterization of this as "handsy," it's clear even from the allegations that if he had wanted to rape her, he could have. But she doesn't make that claim, so clearly, if he was trying to prevent her from leaving or was trying to force her to submit to sex, he wasn't trying very hard.
Of course not. But we're not dealing with people who think logically.
You could have stopped at the word think and still been accurate.
I really need to stay away from here when I'm in a mood.... I apologize for not having a rational conversation with you. I'm in a mood and I'm sorry. I'm dealing with shit on my home front that has nothing to do with you or anyone on here, so to you and anyone else I may have been bitchy to, I'm sorry.... Y'all, I'm a bitchy ass female, it happens every now and then.....
@tessylo
I totally understand where you're coming from, and since everybody here gets bitchy sometimes (some of us more than others) don't worry too much, you have to be hearty to be a NTalker in the first place. Good luck at home.