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China cancels security talks with US

  

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Via:  buzz-of-the-orient  •  8 years ago  •  21 comments

China cancels security talks with US
"The tension is escalating, and that could prove to be dangerous to both sides," the [Chinese] official said.

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China cancels security talks with US

This cancellation of US-Sino security talks comes days after a top Chinese official said there was no reason to panic over tensions between the two countries.

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By John Walcott, news.com.au, October 1 2018

China has cancelled a security meeting with US Secretary of Defence Jim Mattis that had been planned for October, a senior US official says.


This comes days after a top Chinese official said there was no reason to panic over tensions between the two countries.

The official, who is involved in China policy and spoke on condition of anonymity, said it was not clear if or when the meeting would be rescheduled.

The cancellation was first reported by the New York Times.

The official said it was not clear whether the cancellation was because of the broad range of disputes between Beijing and Washington on issues such as arms sales and military activity in the South China Sea and other waters around China.

China and the United States are also locked in a spiraling trade war that has seen them level increasingly severe rounds of tariffs on each other's imports.

"The tension is escalating, and that could prove to be dangerous to both sides," the official said.

The US State Department declined comment. Officials at the White House and Department of Defence did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

China's Foreign and Defence Ministries also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.




Sources in Beijing briefed on the matter said last week the security meeting may not take place because of the tensions in relations between the two countries.

The Chinese government's top diplomat, Wang Yi, said on Friday there was "no cause for panic" over friction between Beijing and Washington, but warned that China would not be blackmailed or yield to pressure over trade.

At a UN Security Council meeting on Wednesday, President Donald Trump accused Beijing of seeking to meddle in the November 6 US congressional elections to stop him and his Republican Party from doing well because of his China trade policies.

Trump provided no evidence for his allegation. At the same meeting, Wang rejected the charge.




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Buzz of the Orient
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1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

And there was this:

U.S. warship sails near disputed South China Sea islands -U.S. official  (Reuters, September 30, 2018)

And a few days before:

China slams US after B-52 bomber flyby in South China Sea, calls move ‘risky’  (Fox News)

It looks like the USA is doing whatever it can to provoke war with China.  Someone should send Trump a copy of the book "How to Make Friends and Influence People".

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    8 years ago
Someone should send Trump a copy of the book "How to Make Friends and Influence People".

I've been saying that since the man took office. No instead we have a 24/7 negotiator in charge of america now.

A man who will say whatever he wants to get what he wants. No wonder China doesn't want a meeting. Cant say as I blame them, I wouldn't want to be involved with this man either. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1    8 years ago

Looks like he (or Trudeau) has put something together on NAFTA.  I haven't reviewed it yet so I don't know which side benefited from that yet, although Trudeau's just a kid without sufficient experience so I wouldn't be surprised Trump's bullying didn't make him cave, but if he caved he has an election coming up next year and the new deal could make or break him.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to    8 years ago

McCarthy would have loved knowing you.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to    8 years ago

Aha, Genghis Khan rides again to create a Chinese Caliphate....jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif   jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    8 years ago
You are rooting for the Chinese communist really

No not really I'm "rooting" for reality. Something I dont see much of in this country any more. We have a president that reality doesn't seem to matter too much, he'll say whatever he wants to get whatever he wants. 

I wouldn't want to deal with anyone like that either. Who would ?

As far as China taking over the whole world yeah it wouldn't surprise me, they plan long term when we cant even deal with current problems here. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.8  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    8 years ago
I see very clearly what they are doing.

Yep they are moving into the future while we sit and watch. Anything new ?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.10  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    8 years ago
They are bad actors anyway you look at them.

They dont care and I doubt we or anyone will stop them. Trump will try. But China always plans long term while we don't. Hope ya like rice. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.1    8 years ago

Smoke and mirrors.

1.The long term goal of NAfta was to get all Central/North American cars up to 75% "made" in USA parts.

Currently all cars average 68%.

Very good for Honda which is at 80%, and most are made in North America already.

Bad for the Buick Enclave which is made in China and only 2% NA parts.  ( Enclave may very well disappear from NA  as well as other Chinese and Indian imports  )

A few adjust ments here and there and big raises for Mexican workers means delayed raise for American and Canadian auto workers, plus a $4,000 increas e in list prices.

2.  We forced Canada and Mexico to accept our intelectual property and copyright rules,  not a good move.

3 Canada reduces some tariffs on US dairy, good for Canadian consumers and US border states dairies, Mexico yawns.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.12  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to    8 years ago

As I said, it's strictly business.  China provides mutual benefits to many nations. Mutual, not unilateral conquests.

Do you have evidence of China interfering with international commercial navigation through the South China Sea, other than military provocations?

Trump isolates America, while Xi Jinping globalizes China.  That's America's choice.
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.13  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.11    8 years ago

Thanks for that info. No serious changes - both benefits and detriments for Canada, but I still would like to know about how dispute resolution may have changed.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.15  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.13    8 years ago

Dispute settlement changes

Controversial investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) mechanisms that allow companies to sue governments for infringing on potential future profits have been scrapped between Canada and the US.

According to the Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives, Canada has been the most-sued country under NAFTA with 41 cases brought against it by foreign investors as of the beginning of 2018. Mexico has faced 23 investor-state claims, and the United States has faced 21.

CCPA's Mertins-Kirkwood told Al Jazeera the elimination of the investor-state dispute settlement for Canada was the best news for the country in USMCA.

"ISDS fundamentally undermines government sovereignty for corporate gain at the expense of the public interest. It had been used dozens of times under NAFTA to challenge environmental regulations and other public interest measures in Canada," Mertins-Kirkwood explained.

"Canada's business lobby will be unhappy with the elimination of ISDS, but it's a positive change for the Canadian public."

The state-to-state dispute settlement mechanism was preserved in the new deal and seen as another win for Canada. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.16  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to    8 years ago

Maybe we all only see propaganda.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.17  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.15    8 years ago

Thanks, SP. Looks like a "win some, lose some" situation for everyone.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.18  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.16    8 years ago
Maybe we all only see propaganda.

Yes sir and unfortunately, maybe more and more true everyday !

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.19  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to    8 years ago

Personally, I feel much more comfortable and safer here than I think I would be in the USA these days or, due to what Trudeau is doing to my own country, even in Canada.  Of course I mind my own business, have no desire to be any kind of activist, have made friends with police and government officials...so I don't really care about what I have no control over. 

 
 

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