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NEW MEXICO RESIDENT GAVIN CLARKSON’S DRIVER’S LICENSE DEEMED “FOREIGN” BY D.C. CLERK

  

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Via:  kavika  •  8 years ago  •  86 comments

NEW MEXICO RESIDENT GAVIN CLARKSON’S DRIVER’S LICENSE DEEMED “FOREIGN” BY D.C. CLERK

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Clarkson-wedding-450x600.jpg Gavin and Marina Clarkson

Published December 2, 2018

WASHINGTON  — Gavin Clarkson (Choctaw), the former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy and Economic Development — Indian Affairs in the U.S. Department of Interior, has experienced his share of crazy moments in Washington, D.C. However, he wasn't expecting such a moment when he went apply for a marriage license last month at the District of Columbia Marriage Bureau.

Clarkson-rings-225x300.jpg The couple selected rings made of Navajo silver and turquoise.

On November 20, 2018, when he presented his state's driver's license from the State of New Mexico, the marriage bureau clerk  advised Clarkson he would need a foreign passport because the did not think New Mexico was a state within the United States.

"She thought New Mexico was a foreign country," Clarkson says of the clerk as quoted by the  Las Cruces Sun-News . "All the couples behind us waiting in line were laughing."

Clarkson asked to see her supervisor, who at first sided with the clerk. Both of whom, apparently did recall their geography lessons. New Mexico is indeed part of the United States. It became a state on January 12, 1912.

A peristent Clarkson eventually convinced the clerk that the New Mexico driver's license was sufficient identification.

District of Columbia Marriage Bureau admitted its clerk had made an error.

"We understand that a clerk in our Marriage Bureau made a mistake regarding New Mexico's 106-year history as a state," said Leah H. Gurowitz, director of media and public relations for D.C. Courts, in an email to the  Sun-News . "We very much regret the error and the slight delay it caused a New Mexico resident in applying for a DC marriage license."

Clarkson posted this message to his Facebook account:

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Gavin Clarkson  is at  Washington D.C. Marriage Bureau .

November 20 at 1:53 PM  ·  Washington  · 

You know you are from flyover country when you are applying for a marriage license, give them your New Mexico driver's license, and they come back and say "my supervisor says we cannot accept international driver's licenses. Do you have a New Mexico passport?" They went back to a supervisor to check if New Mexico was a state ... TWICE!

Mrs.  Clarkson  thinks that the most hilarious part was when the clerk complimented me on my English. (For those that don't know, Marina immigrated from Argentina in 1994 and became a US citizen fourteen years later).

"The clerk's office also later confirmed that it would have been easier if I had used my Choctaw tribal ID instead of my New Mexico license. Go figure," Clarkson says in a statement to Native News Online.

The couple was able to marry later in the day on November 20, 2018, on Clarkson's birthday.

 


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Kavika
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1  seeder  Kavika     8 years ago

New Mexico isn't part of the U.S.. I know that our educational system is having problems but come on..New Mexico is a foreign country and you need a passport to be here...LMAO   

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.1  A. Macarthur  replied to  Kavika @1    8 years ago

Interestingly … the same clerk and supervisor thought they had to go to Texas to rent a car …

… wait for it …

FROM ALAMO.*

*My apologies.

I have another story about the clerk … but it's off topic so I'll save it for another time.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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1.1.1  dave-2693993  replied to  A. Macarthur @1.1    8 years ago
FROM ALAMO.*

Ooooh, that Hertz.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.1.2  A. Macarthur  replied to  dave-2693993 @1.1.1    8 years ago
Ooooh, that Hertz.

I concede … your comment killed mine.

Would that constitute vehicular homicide?

And what's driving this conversation … will it tire us?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  dave-2693993 @1.1.1    8 years ago

Well played, sir.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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1.1.4  dave-2693993  replied to  A. Macarthur @1.1.2    8 years ago
And what's driving this conversation … will it tire us?

I'm not sure, but if we are not careful, it could go a little flat.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @1.1.4    8 years ago
I'm not sure, but if we are not careful, it could go a little flat.

It kinda seems to have already ran into the ditch. 

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.1.6  A. Macarthur  replied to  dave-2693993 @1.1.4    8 years ago

I'm not sure, but if we are not careful, it could go a little flat.

To air is human.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.7  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  A. Macarthur @1.1.6    8 years ago
To air is human.

Yep, and to forget is divine. 

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.1.8  A. Macarthur  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.7    8 years ago
To air is human.
Yep, and to forget is divine. 

I'm sorry … what were we talking about?

My apologies to Kavika … I have taken his discussion off the rails.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.9  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  A. Macarthur @1.1.8    8 years ago
I'm sorry … what were we talking about?

Not sure, maybe the weather ? 

lol o yeah  on a clear day they say you can see moscow from the District of Columbia. 

Some say from the front  porch I think it's outback. 

lol

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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2  Dean Moriarty    8 years ago

Most likely an honest mistake. 

384

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    8 years ago

LMAO, I'm sure that it was. That and a lack of intelligent or skipping history or geography class could have something to do with it as well. And the supervisor backed the clerk....LMAO

 
 
 
PJ
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2.2  PJ  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    8 years ago

Funny Dean.  I get what you're saying.....very clever.

 
 
 
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2.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    8 years ago
Most likely an honest mistake

You're probably right.  However, I would add stupid, ridiculous, and straight-up moronic with an off-the-chain side-order of embarrassing...for the clerk and her boss.

What wasn't an honest mistake, though, was hiring 2 people clearly lacking the most basic of credentials to hold either position.

Kudos to Mr. Clarkson and his bride for sharing their experience with a comical slant, especially the part about the compliment on his English.  I can envision no facial expression accompanied by two or three befuddling blinks (the reaction one has when they are doing their best to keep the WTF look off of their face so not to hurt anyone's feelings), a slow head turn to look at his intended (who had just exhibited the same method to keep the WTF look off of her own face), followed by another slow head turn to look back at the clerk.   

 
 
 
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2.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    8 years ago

Someday...someday, amigo.  

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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3  dave-2693993    8 years ago

More stupid people in the news.

After Perries discussion yesterday and this one today, maybe an IQ level should become a more important metric than credit rating...?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  dave-2693993 @3    8 years ago
maybe an IQ level should become a more important metric than credit rating...?

The scary part of that could be that a majority can't pass an IQ test..../s

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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3.1.1  dave-2693993  replied to  Kavika @3.1    8 years ago
The scary part of that could be that a majority can't pass an IQ test..../s

LOL.

I wonder how that office would handle folks from Paris or Odessa TX? Or Moscow Idaho? Detain them for the storm troopers.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.1.2  PJ  replied to  Kavika @3.1    8 years ago
The scary part of that could be that a majority can't pass an IQ test

We already know that's the case as is evident by her the current President is.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  PJ @3.1.2    8 years ago
that a majority can't pass an IQ test

We already know that's the case as is evident by her the current President is.

Not to be an ass but.....LOL 
I do it to, we all seem to. 
humans make mistakes, who knew ?
lol 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.4  seeder  Kavika   replied to  PJ @3.1.2    8 years ago

Ok folks let's keep politics out of this. It's a funny article so let's keep it that way.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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3.1.5  SteevieGee  replied to  dave-2693993 @3.1.1    8 years ago

They know about Moscow Idaho because it's right  near Washington.  Duh!  /s.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.7  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    8 years ago
They can almost see Moscow from Washington!

I heard that's only on really really clear days though.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.1.8  PJ  replied to  Kavika @3.1.4    8 years ago

sorry .......jrSmiley_68_smiley_image.png   I'm a stinker.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.9  seeder  Kavika   replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.7    8 years ago

Probably known as Moscow on the Potomac.... 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.11  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.10    8 years ago
Might also depend on if they are standing on their front porch!

LOL, I guess that would depend on which direction their porch faced some may need to look outback.

(which really might confuse some thinking they have no outback and that's in Australia.)

lol

 
 
 
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3.1.13  dave-2693993  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.5    8 years ago
They know about Moscow Idaho because it's right  near Washington.  Duh!  /s.

DOH!!!

Of course. How could I miss that?

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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3.1.14  dave-2693993  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.3    8 years ago
Not to be an ass but.....LOL 
I do it to, we all seem to. 
humans make mistakes, who knew ?
lol 

I can't remember the last time I made a mistake.

BTW, what was it we were talking about again?

 
 
 
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3.1.15  SteevieGee  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.11    8 years ago

The outback?  Wow!  You must have really good eyes.

 
 
 
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3.1.16  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.15    8 years ago
The outback?  Wow!  You must have really good eyes.

LOL

The out back they need to look in is Out their Back door. Thus their confusion.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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3.1.17  dave-2693993  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.16    8 years ago
they need to look in is Out their Back door.

You don't think the tambourines and elephants will block their view?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.18  seeder  Kavika   replied to  dave-2693993 @3.1.17    8 years ago

What in the world does Australia and CCR have to do with this...LOL

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.19  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @3.1.17    8 years ago
elephants will block their view?

maybe for some, there'd probably be some jackassses in the way as well. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.20  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Kavika @3.1.18    8 years ago
What in the world does Australia and CCR have to do with this...LOL

I made a joke including the outback, it grew. lol

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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3.1.21  dave-2693993  replied to  Kavika @3.1.18    8 years ago

Simple.

The thing same as New Mexico. They are all foreign. 

Aren't they?

(P.S. Maybe I went to the same school as those students in Perrie's other article)

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.22  seeder  Kavika   replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.11    8 years ago

Meanwhile-In-australia-an-argument-between-neighbours-Kangaroo-Memes.jpg

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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3.1.23  dave-2693993  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.19    8 years ago
maybe for some, there'd probably be some jackassses in the way as well.

LOL.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.24  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Kavika @3.1.22    8 years ago

lol

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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3.1.26  A. Macarthur  replied to  Kavika @3.1.22    8 years ago

But who's kickin'?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.27  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Release The Kraken @3.1.25    8 years ago

He lost the fight...LOL

 
 
 
PJ
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4  PJ    8 years ago

The positive take away:  

The clerk's office also later confirmed that it would have been easier if I had used my Choctaw tribal ID instead of my New Mexico license

At least Native Americans are recognized as American........ jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5  1stwarrior    8 years ago

Yeah - Audra and I have to get our passports renewed each year for both Mexico and the U. S. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     8 years ago

I had a 60 year old lady ask me a while back what Washington DC was ? 

An american lady ta boot.

lol 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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6.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @6    8 years ago

Not an easy one to explain. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6.1.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1    8 years ago
Not an easy one to explain. 

I just told her Washington DC is the nation's capital. 

She seemed satisfied. I'm sure she was confused as she had lived in Washington state....

LOL 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    8 years ago

We need to help people get out more. Broaden their horizons.

 
 
 
Kavika
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8  seeder  Kavika     8 years ago

Just a hop to a foreign country that's on our doorstep...Come on by and enjoy. No passport of visa required but a tribal ID card will help.

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321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Kavika @8    8 years ago
Just a hop to a foreign country that's on our doorstep.

Could you please include a map on how to get there ? I seem to be lost. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @8.1    8 years ago

It would depend on where you live...I'll assume that your east of NM so head west young man...LOL...

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Kavika @8.1.1    8 years ago
head west young man...LOL...

No, I better not, I'd run into california then the ocean that would be the loooong way to go.

LOL I'm right over here in phoenix. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.1.3  seeder  Kavika   replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @8.1.2    8 years ago

In that case head east young man...

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1.4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Kavika @8.1.3    8 years ago
In that case head east young man...

That sounds logical.

lol

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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8.2  dave-2693993  replied to  Kavika @8    8 years ago

I was glad to learn from the article they speak English well. I am not fluent in Choctaw.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.2.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @8.2    8 years ago
I was glad to learn from the article they speak English well. I am not fluent in Choctaw.

Yeah seems none of us learned the native language.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  dave-2693993 @8.2    8 years ago

Everyone speaks the same language at Choctaw,

$$

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dave-2693993
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8.2.4  dave-2693993  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.3    8 years ago

I just give those sorts of business a few bucks at the front door and go on my way.

It's cheaper that way.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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9  Steve Ott    8 years ago

New Mexico magazine's last page is a column called "One of Our 50 is Missing". It always had funny stories. Some people don't even realize there is another state between Texas and Arizona.

My oldest step-daughter moved to Georgia from New Mexico some years ago. When she went to get a Georgia driver's license, she was told they needed to see her passport. When she informed them New Mexico is one of the states, they said they didn't know anything about that and she would need to go to the sheriff's office for a license.

 
 
 
Kavika
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9.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Steve Ott @9    8 years ago
When she informed them New Mexico is one of the states, they said they didn't know anything about that and she would need to go to the sheriff's office for a license.

You have to be kidding, right Steve....

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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9.1.1  Steve Ott  replied to  Kavika @9.1    8 years ago

Nope. True story. Stardust never did get a Georgia license.

 
 
 
Kavika
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9.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Steve Ott @9.1.1    8 years ago

Wow, that is unbelievable. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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9.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Kavika @9.1.2    8 years ago
Wow, that is unbelievable. 

You would think. But long ago when I lived in Illinois when winter hit many of us got laid off. Dealing with the government unemployment office was not only the joke of the land it was the nightmare as well. 

The amount of incompetence was utterly ridiculous. People like myself that worked outside wth tools could and would figure out their jobs and show them what needed done. And that's no shit. The reason about half of them were still there and couldn't be fired was because they somehow were connected to the government. 

IMO: Whats unbelievable to me is that hasn't change in 40 years. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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9.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Steve Ott @9    8 years ago
When she informed them New Mexico is one of the states, they said they didn't know anything about that and she would need to go to the sheriff's office

LOL

Dad always said "Son get yourself a government job, so they can't fire your ass." (dad knew me well,lol) 

LOL .. Now I know why.  "they said they didn't know anything about that"

lol  DUuuu !

 
 
 
Ender
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10  Ender    8 years ago

Ha. Reminds me of the Jimmy Kimmel skits where he interviews people on the street.

I was watching a show the other night and the people did not know the Prime Minister of England. I know that would be hard for people that don't even know the states. A lot would be baffled to try to grasp that the US also has territories.

Seems to be a lot of people around that don't know basic stuff.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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10.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Ender @10    8 years ago

A lot of people dont know jack shit but they figure out how to vote straight party line at least. 

 
 
 
Ender
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10.1.1  Ender  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @10.1    8 years ago

HA. Easier than trying to research a candidate.

What gets me about the Kimmel skits is that people will lie and pretend they know about something, even when it is false.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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10.1.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Ender @10.1.1    8 years ago
What gets me about the Kimmel skits is that people will lie and pretend they know about something, even when it is false.

LOL Yeah I've seen a few of those questioning on the streets skit things from various places. It is interesting to see how people react. Whether they know or not and as you say especially when they dont, They'll guess and look questionably at the questioner for the lead on whether they are correct or not.

Leno used to go along with their mistakes some and lead em on to say even stupider shit. He was good at that. It was almost hilarious some times. 

Easier than trying to research a candidate. 

Boy that's for damn sure, I research each one on my ballot, It takes me hours but I  vote absentee ballot so I have about a week to do it and get it back to them. 

I stopped voting straight party line when I figured out thats how the bad politicians gain power over us. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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11  1stwarrior    8 years ago

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1stwarrior
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12  1stwarrior    8 years ago

256

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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12.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  1stwarrior @12    8 years ago

I hear it's tough to get a visa ;)

 
 

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