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Michael Moore urges everyone not to pay tax returns, fly on planes during shutdown

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  7 years ago  •  62 comments

Michael Moore urges everyone not to pay tax returns, fly on planes during shutdown
“If this were any other country, if this were Turkey or the Philippines or Russia and they had an election and the ruler’s party somehow lost half their legislative branch like [Trump] did in November, and then that ruler declared a month later, ‘I’m shutting down the government,’ what would we call that if it were another country doing that?” Moore argued. "This guy doesn’t want the government to be reopened. He certainly doesn’t want the Department of Justice to be opened."

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Liberal documentary filmmaker Michael Moore appeared on “ The Late Show ” Thursday night where he urged people to fight back against the Trump administration amid the partial government shutdown.

Moore called it “crazy” that the shutdown has gone into its second month, insisting that no one, particularly on “ The Late Show ,” would "work for free" before explaining how he thinks the shutdown can end.

“Federal workers, don’t go to work without pay,” Moore urged the 800,000 furloughed workers. “And we, the people, shouldn’t be supporting anything that requires someone who is not paid working for us. We should not fly. Don’t fill out your tax return.”

“Now hold on,” Stephen Colbert interrupted. “I don’t want my audience to go to jail!”

“No, don’t go to jail. You don’t need to,” Moore continued. “Go online to the IRS, every American has the right to file a one-page form that lets you file on August 15th. Everybody has a right for an extension. All you got to do is ask for it. And that way, you don’t have unpaid IRS workers doing work for you.”

“Consult a lawyer first,” Colbert told his audience.


The “Fahrenheit 11/9” director then pleaded with criminals to not “commit crimes” during the shutdown because “the FBI is not being paid.”

When asked to weigh in on the report of Trump possibly drafting is a declaration of a national emergency in order to get border funding, Moore stated that the Commander in Chief is “out of control.”

“If this were any other country, if this were Turkey or the Philippines or Russia and they had an election and the ruler’s party somehow lost half their legislative branch like [Trump] did in November, and then that ruler declared a month later, ‘I’m shutting down the government,’ what would we call that if it were another country doing that?” Moore argued. "This guy doesn’t want the government to be reopened. He certainly doesn’t want the Department of Justice to be opened."

Moore added, "If he tries to pull a national emergency, we the people have to declare a national emergency.  We have to non-violently rise up, we have to take to the streets, we have to build our own wall, a human wall around the White House. Nothing will stop a bully unless you stand up to the bully in the schoolyard."

Moore also expressed surprise that the “old guard” of the Democratic Party hasn’t “stood in the way” of the newly elected representatives like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez , D-NY. He later assured Colbert that the “Trump impeachment” will go forward.

When asked by Colbert if celebrities in Hollywood should “shut up” and leave politics to the politicians, Moore responded by claiming the Republicans “run Hollywood,” citing Ronald Reagan, Trump and Arnold Schwarzenegger as proof.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    7 years ago

What we need is a really large public protest, ala a national strike. Let 25 million Americans go into the streets at a given and coordinated moment and say "we are not going to take this anymore"  and I think some of the politicians will get the message. And that would be only the first step.

 
 
 
katrix
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1.1  katrix  replied to  JohnRussell @1    7 years ago
What we need is a really large public protest, ala a national strike

According to Trump, the shutdown IS a national strike.  That's how stupid and out of touch with reality he is.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  katrix @1.1    7 years ago
That's how stupid and out of touch with reality he is.

Nearly 80% of tax returns result in money going to the tax filer.  Many of those families rely on it.

So add Moore to the "out of touch" list.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    7 years ago

Michael Moore is such a dweeb!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    7 years ago

There are a couple that might qualify but not many.

 
 
 
katrix
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1.2.3  katrix  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.2    7 years ago

I have to agree about that - he's one strange dude.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.2.4  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    7 years ago

'bigger dweeb'?  Maybe the Ivanka/Jared combo? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.2.6  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    7 years ago

To be honest Mr. Tex...…….in full retrospect...…….YOU are 100% correct.

Dumber than a box of rocks, right?  I'll take it.  I deserve it.

Thanks.  Wish you well and a good weekend.

Hell, I even voted you up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    7 years ago

Flights into and out of NYC have been effected by the shutdown as flight controllers are not showing up to work because they are not being paid. There are now ground delays at these airports.

I think Trump is going to pull the trigger on his "emergency". He doesn't care that he will set a precedent for future presidents to declare imaginary "emergencies".

 
 
 
lady in black
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4  lady in black    7 years ago

If his vanity wall is a national emergency why hasn't he declared it yet.....he's a fucking clown and a disgrace to the office of the presidency for holding 800,000 American workers hostage. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5  It Is ME    7 years ago

"Michael Moore urges everyone not to pay tax returns"

How the Fuck is that gonna hurt our government ?

They have "UBER EXPENSIVE Printing Machines" that are already paid for,  dontchyaknow !

Oh......and that "Superduper Secret money Tree" they keep hiding !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @5    7 years ago

lol

That's why I dont pay much attention nor pay much credence to radicals of either side.

If you follow this man's advice, likely you will pay a penalty. And your right WTF does the government care they are protected by law and have the ability to enforce the law. 

unreal

I guess it keeps him on TV and in a paycheck...

sad

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.2    7 years ago

I disagree, although I dont know if an income tax protest is the best idea.

We need mass mobilization by the citizens. Bring commerce to a halt for a day and the elites in Washington will get the message, at least temporarily.

The nation on the whole has been far far too easy on Trump and his absurd administration.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.2.2  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    7 years ago
The nation on the whole has been far far too easy on Trump and his absurd administration.

If the "Nation" had been hard on ALL those before Trump, There wouldn't be anything to BITCH about now. Not "Politically Prudent. jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.2    7 years ago
And your right WTF does the government care they are protected by law and have the ability to enforce the law. 

Government can do what-ever the Fuck they want to us. 

When it comes to in-house issues...… Look away, look away …… SPEND SOME MORE !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.2.4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    7 years ago
We need mass mobilization by the citizens.

I'd say this administration has walked a fine line of exactly that happening from almost the first day of this man being sworn in.

I also think trump knows that and watches that line. 

In today's America all a politician needs is about half of the population behind them and they can do and be whatever they care to. 

trump I'd say fully understands than, watches it and uses it.

That's why the mass mobilization hasn't happened, if and when trump is making too many waves, he changes the tone. 

Now it will be a declaration of crisis and the governmental shutdown pain will subside. 

No masses, but still a mess. 

and he is still working towards his goal.

A master manipulator.  trump

O and for no the president, commander in chief leader and international representative of us and our country.

So I say,  "Good Luck America !"

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.2.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @5.2.3    7 years ago
Look away, look away …… SPEND SOME MORE !

Yeah The control of credit cards that you dont pay back your self would be wonderful. 

I want That and THat and THAT !!

O-my !

WHat  ? I also get to make my own rules.

"Well, Damn, There is a shangri la after all."

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.2.6  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.2.5    7 years ago

We are Bangkok !

Government should try it …… ONCE !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.2.9  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    7 years ago
You sure seem to be sad a lot, and that's sad. 

 True, lot to be sad about. IMO: America always was great, now its a mess.

Yep it was a mess before but it was a mess of many now its a mess of one.  

That to me is sader. jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.2.11  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    7 years ago

yeah. let trump have his way on everything.

Let one man tell 327.000.000 of us how our country should and will do everything.

Make America Great.

lol

NO Thanks, I'll take the mess we had. 

 
 
 
luther28
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5.2.12  luther28  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.2.11    7 years ago

NO Thanks, I'll take the mess we had. 

I am with you, If this is making America great, then I'll settling for MAMA, make America mediocre again.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  It Is ME @5    7 years ago
How the Fuck is that gonna hurt our government ?

His suggestion to file an extension wasn't about "hurting the government", it was about helping those federal workers who are overburdened because of the shutdown who have to process federal tax returns. All he was saying is that by filing an extension it will, in the short term, reduce the workload of some of those workers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.3    7 years ago

It's rather telling that most of the "conservative" comments on this seed are simply personal attacks on Michael Moore rather than comments on his idea that we need mass action from the American people.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.3.2  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.3    7 years ago

Read the title.....

"Michael Moore urges everyone not to pay tax returns"

Then read what he says in the body:

"“And we, the people, shouldn’t be supporting anything that requires someone who is not paid working for us. We should not fly. Don’t fill out your tax return.”

Then ….. to cover his ass.....he goes the route of:

"File an extension".

People File Friggin extensions all the time....so Ol' Mickey is full of shit !

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.3.3  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.1    7 years ago
It's rather telling that most of the "conservative" comments on this seed are simply personal attacks on Michael Moore

Would you rather they attacked You for the article ?

"rather than comments on his idea that we need mass action from the American people."

Mass action from whom ?

There are more folks that are doing good these days, than are doing bad. Face it John, there are grownups that are doing their jobs even when not getting paid right now. They know that money isn't gone, it's just delayed. Why fuck that up....since they CAN'T find another job, so I've been told !

 
 
 
Sunshine
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5.3.4  Sunshine  replied to  It Is ME @5.3.3    7 years ago
Would you rather they attacked You for the article ?

Probably, reason for another pity party.

Moore is another self-serving left wing douche. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.3.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  It Is ME @5.3.2    7 years ago
People File Friggin extensions all the time....so Ol' Mickey is full of shit !

You obviously didn't watch it. I did, and understood exactly what he was saying and nothing he said was wrong. He suggested people file the extensions, which people do all the time as you point out, because that would alleviate the work load for those being forced to work reviewing tax returns during the shutdown. He suggested people not fly to alleviate the burden from TSA agents having to work during the shutdown. The headline and Fox news seeded article are dishonest and simply cherry picking his comments and trying to make it seem as if he was saying something he wasn't.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @5.3.3    7 years ago

Are you often confused?  It's hard to tell.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.3.8  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.6    7 years ago
Are you often confused?  It's hard to tell.

320

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.3.9  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.3.5    7 years ago
You obviously didn't watch it. I did

Really ?

"He suggested people not fly"

What a STUPID comment by him.

That ain't happening ! jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.3.10  cjcold  replied to  It Is ME @5.3.9    7 years ago

So when do we get to see Trump's tax returns? He's hiding them for a reason.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3.12  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.1    7 years ago
It's rather telling that most of the "conservative" comments on this seed are simply personal attacks on Michael Moore

It's rather telling that ALL of your comments/seeds/posts are personal attacks on President Trump. TDS in full display every single day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3.13  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5.3.12    7 years ago

I suggest you try and pick a fight with someone you can handle.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.3.14  It Is ME  replied to  cjcold @5.3.10    7 years ago
So when do we get to see Trump's tax returns?

Show us YOURS….and just for giggles....show us the "LAW' that says Presidential, or any candidate for that matter, MUST show their "Personal Tax Returns"  !

 
 
 
Sunshine
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6  Sunshine    7 years ago

And the wackos take this guy serious.

I suggest he do a hunger strike.

 
 
 
charger 383
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6.2  charger 383  replied to  Sunshine @6    7 years ago

If he quit eating people would get laid off

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.1  cjcold  replied to  charger 383 @6.2    7 years ago

He eats people?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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7  It Is ME    7 years ago

"The “Fahrenheit 11/9” director then pleaded with criminals to not “commit crimes” during the shutdown because “the FBI is not being paid.”

I guess he didn't get the "Memo" on the Roger Stone raid ! The FBI had Big Bucks for that one. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

Michael is just a "Baiting" bloviating douche !

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    7 years ago

Well, Mr. Moore you are a day late and a dollar short.

1.  Supposedly the 'shutdown' is over by agreement identical to the agreement agreed to 35 days ago.

2.  In reality, no-one pays taxes except the super rich.  At least there are those who will not refute it.

3.  Was Roger Stone stoned this morning?

This about covers todays news.

 
 
 
luther28
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9  luther28    7 years ago

Michael Moore urges everyone not to pay tax returns, fly on planes during shutdown

A kind of High Schoolish approach in my opinion, may even get three or four folks to go along with such a notion.

That aside, I do not think most folks care a wit about what Mr. Moore may urge them to do.

 
 

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