Country band Confederate Railroad nixed from another fair
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NEW PALTZ, N.Y. (AP) — The Southern country-rock group Confederate Railroad lost a second summer fair gig after objections over the use of the Confederate flag in its logo.
The band's Aug. 1 date at the Ulster County Fair in New York's Hudson Valley has been canceled, a spokesman for Ulster County Executive Pat Ryan said Thursday. Illinois this month canceled a state fair appearance by the band, whose logo features a steam locomotive flying Confederate flags.
"The Ulster County Fair must be an event that everyone can enjoy while representing the values of all members of our community," Ryan said in a prepared statement. "Any showcasing of a symbol of division and racism runs counter to that principle and will be vigorously opposed by my administration."
The flag has come under increasing criticism as a racist emblem of slavery and segregation. Confederate Railroad frontman Danny Shirley on Thursday echoed supporters who say it represents history and Southern heritage.
"I've done nothing wrong," Shirley said by phone on the band's tour bus. "I love the part of the country I'm from, and I will never apologize for that."
Shirley said the band's name was inspired by a steam locomotive called the General, which was commandeered in Georgia by a Union raiding party during the Civil War. The locomotive is on display in Kennesaw, Georgia, where Shirley lived when he got his record deal.
"It seems that everybody kind of gets looking for something to get upset about," Shirley said. "And I guess I'm just the flavor of the month."
The Grammy-nominated band is known for acoustic ballads such as "Jesus and Mama," as well as its raucous anthem "Trashy Women."
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tough shit. fuck them.
No one should fly or portray the confederate flag outside of their own home or some other private gathering, unless it is to use it in a historical context such as in a movie, play, or book.
If you fly the confederate flag with pride you are signaling agreement with what the flag symbolized, which was white supremacy.
This decision is really a no brainer.
You mean the Confederacy. "White supremacy" is a very recent construct, a form of newspeak.
lol. The Confederacy was founded on white supremacy.
it is the party of racism and white supremacy, now.
Trump is an R, not a D. The dems might have started it, but the repubs have fine tuned it.
They are the current party embracing and welcoming white supremacists and racists, that pretty much defines them even though the majority of Republicans do not hold to the most extreme of those views. They just often share the same feelings of remembering the confederacy fondly, revering those who fought for slavery and celebrating those treasonous confederate military leaders who tried their best to kill as many American Union soldiers as they could. I find it hilarious that today its the party of Lincoln who is stalwartly defending the ideology of the confederacy, but lets be real, the Republican party of today looks nothing like the party of Lincoln. It is now the party of Lincoln in name only.
In 1972 Nixon INFAMOUSLY welcomed the disaffected Dixiecrats who had deserted the Democratic Party in 1964 and 1968 to support Strom Thurman and zgeorge Wallacd into the damn gop with Nixon's "Southern Strategy" For Reelection...
The Confederacy was based on preserving slavery and state sovereignty. The "racism" of the 20th century is not quite the same thing. Slavery was not necessarily based on a hatred of another group. In the case of the old south, slavery grew out of the need for labor - labor to harvest cotton and other crops.
how about historically accurate re-enactments john?
I would like to see more historical reenactments of the horrors of slavery, Ku Klux Klan violence and the injustices of the 100 Year Jim Crow Era. I hear they are finally making a major motion picture about The Tulsa Race Riot aka The Greenwood Massacre when the emerging Black Wall Street was bombed to smitherines and hundreds of innocent men, women and children were massacred by White Supremacist a hundred years ago in Tulsa...
It wouldn't be historically accurate if the union troops lost would it?
there wouldn't be a controversy today if every traitor had been executed after the civil war
And I think making such movies , in a documentary style is a good thing , especially if it is unvarnished by artistic lic so often used by screen writers, but I can see a stumbling or road block .
And that would be , it will have to be something people will actually go and pay to watch, and if they desire to watch it will be entirely up to the audience .
I recently saw that they have done a movie about the life of Harriet Tubman , called Harriet, it has not been released yet, it promises to be decent .
I suggest the film Rosewood also. It happened in FL and not really all that long ago.
Everything.
I live near quite a few Civil War battlefields, so I'm interested in the history. The interesting thing is how incompetent many of the generals actually were, and how quite a few of the outcomes could so easily have been vastly different. From the Confederate idiot who dropped a cigar with the army's plans wrapped around it, to Burnside's incompetence ... whether it's because warfare was changing, or too many of them were political appointees, a lack of information and intelligence, inexperience, or what, I don't know.
One of my friends found a Civil War musket in the river where the soldiers crossed during the retreat from Antietam. That always makes me wonder about the soldier was carrying it.
It makes me wonder the percentage of West Point Academy grads in the Union Army vs the Confederate Army.
I think Lee was a West Point grad and graduated at the top of his class, while Grant graduated near the bottom. But as you pointed out, the commanding general has to rely on all of his subordinates doing their jobs well.
Or, even better yet, how about everybody in the damn gop today quits pretending to have complete and total political amnesia regarding race for all American History since Nineteen Sixty Four?
Tex in a perfect world , people would recognize their own racism , and if they truly wanted to make the world perfect they wouldn't use or tolerate racism at all and it would end up in the dustbin of history.
But that also depends on how an individual personally defines racism and how its used.
That type of argument is the stupidest thing we see on the internet these days.
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And maybe we can pretend, for your personal comfort level, that you haven't ignored every single fact about how the parties have switched planks over the years. Democrat vs. Republican is intellectually dishonest of you in this case, when what it comes down to is bigots vs. progressives. The bigots (conservative Democrats) moved to the Republican party. As you well know, but keep pretending is not the case.
Thanks for the info.
Good...
meh, they can always rename their stinkin' band after a different defeated enemy of the USA
The Kiaser's Zeppelin, The King Spain's Side Car or King George's Carriage!
They could have chose the name Underground Railroad , keeping the railroad tie in , imagine the krefflufle that would have caused being a southern country rock band.... besides there is a European group by that name now already.
Please note I did not suggest "Hitler's Handcart". That'd be goin too far! /S
I believe the train has finally pulled into Bat Shit Station.
We have collectively gone off the rails in my estimation, but on the positive side I am sure things like this send some folks scrambling for the history books ( or at least google).
It is not bat shit at all to not do business with people who want to fly the Confederate flag.
where I live it's a good reason to get their asses kicked. now those flags get torn town or the window stickers get bashed out. a few years back at a family reunion, I had the privilege of watching 2 nephews ( both servicemen with 2 & 3 ME tours of duty ) pull down 2 traitor flags in texas on memorial day. one of which with the goober yelling at us out of his window. he wouldn't come outside for some reason... bwah ha ha
Then I do not think you should object if the Toe Suck City Texas City Council picks Pubic Enemy or Insane Clown Posse to headline your town's annual White Pride Rally and Bland Food Festival? Fair is Fair! Right? SMH...
some people claim their heritage is connected to flying the dixie swastika, while the heritage of others was making sure a lead miniball hit center mass or the skulls of those that were flying it.. get that?
sorry, that type of goober spin is ineffective on anyone with an IQ over room temperature, oh wait...
They'll be all right. They're going to play at some venue in Arkansas. Somebody heard about their gig getting canceled so they signed them up to play down here