Trump cancels Denmark visit because it won't sell Greenland
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President Donald Trump postponed a trip to Denmark after the prime minister said she has no interest in selling Greenland to the United States. NASA Photo by Chris Larsen/UPI | License PhotoAug. 21 (UPI) -- President Donald Trump has postponed a trip to Denmark to meet with its prime minister, apparently because the Danish government won't sell Greenland to the United States.
Trump was scheduled to travel to Copenhagen next month to meet with Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and Greenland Prime Minister Kim Kielsen.
For weeks, it's been reported that Trump inquired about buying Greenland -- a largely autonomous nation technically under Danish ownership -- and Denmark's refusal is at the heart of the canceled September visit.
"Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen's comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time," Trump tweeted. "The Prime Minister was able to save a great deal of expense and effort for both the United States and Denmark by being so direct."
Trump has pursued the buy as "large real estate deal" and said, "strategically it's interesting." Experts believe Greenland's vast natural resources are the primary reason for his interest.
"It's something we talked about," Trump said last weekend. "Denmark essentially owns it, we're very good allies with Denmark."
Frederiksen told Sermitsiaq , "Greenland is not for sale. Greenland is not Danish. Greenland belongs to Greenland."
Greenland's foreign ministry also rejected the idea in a tweet.
"Greenland is rich in valuable resources such as minerals, the purest water and ice, fish stocks, seafood, renewable energy and is a new frontier for adventure tourism," Greenland's foreign minister said. "We're open for business, not for sale."
Trump and first lady Melania Trump were supposed to visit Denmark Queen Margrethe II and conduct bilateral meetings with business leaders.
The Danish Royal House was surprised by Trump's postponement.
"This has never happened before," Danish Royal House Director of Communications Lene Balleby told CNN .
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And SOME people wonder why we talk about Trump all the time.
Sounds like a win win for Denmark.
Truman Gave it a Shot !
He offered $ 100 Million.
What does it hurt to give it another go ?
Doesn't hurt at all. With climate change Greenland will be the new Iowa. Oh wait... Climate change is a Chinese conspiracy. Never mind.
The "Change" isn't in question !
Never has been !
Donald Trump 11/6/2012
"China now releases almost as much carbon dioxide as the U. S. and Europe combined.
This leads to a painful but inescapable truth -- no matter how much they spend, no matter how dramatically they change their societies, the U.S. and Europe won’t be able to put much of a dent in global warming on their own. Yes, the U.S. should ban coal power, tax carbon heavily and spend lots of money on building green energy infrastructure (LEFTY IDEA) . But without a huge change in China, none of that will matter -- the battle against climate change will be lost."
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"Another potential approach is conditional tariffs on Chinese products . Instead of only taxing the carbon content of Chinese-made goods, the U.S. could threaten to put tariffs on all Chinese products unless it agrees to leave more of its coal permanently in the ground. Banning exports of coal from the U.S., and heavily subsidizing exports of solar and wind technology, would also help make coal less attractive around the world. Tariffs could also be placed on coal exporters like Australia, Indonesia and Russia, encouraging them to keep their own coal safely underground."
So....with that in mind, and having the likes of AOC and all the other "Lefty" Advocates in the U.S. doing everything they can against industry, and costing the U.S. citizen big bucks for environment protection.....and the fact China isn't doing much even after they always say they will …. TRUMP IS CORRECT about "China is a Fault" and an enabler, along with the "Left" (See Linked article) that wants to "Regulate' everything in this country for "Environmental Reasons" !
Gosh ..... hasn't Trump put tariffs on Chinese products already ?
But Trump doing it is a BAD, BAD thingy !
Well trump could cover it in those cancer causing windmills and sell the energy.
Perhaps Steven Miller has convinced Trump to export a new kind of white to Greenland when the snow is all gone... It will be their white utopia, a paradise on earth for straight white evangelical Christians with dozens of golf courses, suburbs built around a Church, several "Bible Lands", Ken Hamm will move his Ark exhibit there, Chick-Fil-a on every corner, they'll escape all the brown people, Muslims, liberals and lgtbq and not even have to build a wall! It's their idea of a "Win! Win!". And all the while they'll still be claiming global warming is a hoax.
I'm not wishing for it, but I've got conservative relatives who pretty much imagine their own white nation of protestant conservatives, they just imagine that happening here and not in Greenland. They've already got the Ark, Bible Land and their Chick-fil-a's and they're some of the laziest people I know so getting them to move might be quite a chore...
Ya, We do...BTW We tried to buy Greenland before Trump.
"This has never happened before," Danish Royal House Director of Communications Lene Balleby told CNN .
False:
The U.S. in 1946 proposed to pay Denmark $100 million (in gold) to buy Greenland, the Associated Press reported in the early 1990s, citing Danish press and the newly discovered documents that had been classified since the 1970s. The proposed deal called for swapping oil-rich land in Alaska for strategic parts of the Arctic island, documents in the National Archives showed.
We also bought the Virgin Islands from them:
Beginning in 1867, the United States made several attempts to expand its influence into the Caribbean by acquiring the Danish West Indies. However, due to a number of political difficulties in concluding and ratifying a treaty to govern this exchange, this collection of islands did not become a part of the United States until their formal transfer from Denmark on March 31, 1917. After the transfer, the United States Government changed the name of the islands to the Virgin Islands of the United States.
Umm....in 1946 Greenland wasnt an independent country! they were still considered a colony up until 1953! So NO We have never tried to buy Greenland the COUNTRY!
No, they are still part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They have a lot of control over self-governance that has been granted to them by Denmark. This authority has been granted piecemeal over the years - in 1953 and again in 1979 - with the most recent such expansion of self-rule authority coming in 2009.
However, Denmark still actively controls Greenland's foreign policy, monetary policy, and defense. In fact, the extant presence of the US Thule Air Base is by agreement with Denmark, not Greenland. Greenland is not an independent and sovereign country, and Denmark is still free to sell it if it wishes.
Dude Trump cannot buy Greenland from Denmark!....he would have to buy it from the people of Greenland or at least their govrrnment! Since a 2008 Greenland has had more autonomy than earlier in history. The country has its own Parliament and premier and control over most political matters, except those concerning foreign policy and national security....so on other words unless the people of Greenland vote for it, its ABZURD to think he can!
How do you figure? Also, if that's true, why didn't the PM of Denmark say so?
Great! Another person who can't spell playing at intellectualism.
"How do you figure? Also, if that's true, why didn't the PM of Denmark say so?"
She did! She guess she didnt think she had to explain foreign policy to the head of the United States!
"Great! Another person who can't spell playing at intellectualism."
Comedy! Nah...just phonetically spelling something Trump MISPRONOUNCED!........ABSURD aint it!
The whiner-in-chief takes his ball and goes home since he can't get his way.
Hah, once again he fails at the real estate business. Poor asshole can't make a deal to save his life.
Maybe that's all they were planning on discussing.
I don't think so since it's a surprise to the Danish officials that this is even a "thing"....more hot air from the buffoon-in-chief
I know it's not either...anything to deflect and excuse the fucktard in the white house.
Not according to an interview he gave.
If the trip was planned specifically for negotiations for the purchase of Greenland; then it makes no sense to go on it if that is off the table.
Unless you like wasting US tax payer money on feel good vacations for photo ops?
So it is OK to waste tax payer money on a worthless trip.
Good to know Democrats are no longer concerned with Trump's travel expenses.
Not good to know some people don't care about our status in the world with a moron like Trump. And there is nothing Trump can say or do that will stop that knee-jerk defense of the most asinine and or despicable behavior.
No, I don't really care anymore what the US status is. I hope the rest of the planet loses our number when the next war or foreign disaster strikes. Especially NATO. About time they stood on their own.
Oh, and I can't stand Trump; didn't vote for him or Hillary. Chances are if a decent third party candidate is available I won't vote for Trump this time either. The insane ever expanding exploding clown car of Democratic candidates already lost my vote. It doesn't matter which one comes tumbling out of it at this point.
I am a fiscal conservative. This trip to Denmark wouldn't have accomplished anything beyond a diplomatic photo op. If Denmark feels slighted, I hope Trump slights several more of our "allies" and "enemies".
Just think of the environment. The canceling of this pointless trip saved the US tax payer, and helped the environment at the same time.
Didn't seem to stop him from the last 3 photo ops with KJU. And how can we forget his weekly trips to golf, which costs the us taxpayers a minimum of 4.1 million dollars.
Yes, it did. Now he won't be spewing his methane-filled rants near those beautiful glaciers
Every trip Trump takes is worthless. The world leaders all know him for the fool he is and always has been. They have all been briefed by their intelligence agencies as to just how stupid Trump really is.
Trip was not planned for buying Greenland, it was arranged before the jackass farted that concept into his brain. The trip was for bilateral meetings and also meetings with business leaders, at the invitation of the Queen of Denmark.
Read post 4.2.4.
Trump tweeted this photo out the other day
under the premise that this is NOT what he wanted to do to Greenland. I think its fair to say they didnt believe him.
Actually... this is probably more like what Trump was planning:
I think this is total proof of dementia. The very idea of purchasing a country is DEMENTED. Where is his family? Why aren't they stepping in to get him some help?
They are too busy trying to find enough rubber wallpaper to redo the White House.
Louisiana 1803; Florida 1819; Alaska 1867; California, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico 1848 (we paid for these after the Mexican War); Gadsen Purchase 1854. Try to learn a little history. [deeted] Also, stop using everything to bash Trump before you remove all doubt from their minds.
Then send Trump a memo and tell him to quit supplying the reasons.
Greenland is an autonomous country of the Kingdom of Denmark,
None of the places you mention were countries.
Other than AK, the others were part of the still establishing US.
You should follow your own advice, those were territories of Mexico, NOT countries.
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And if I remember my history correctly all part of the Manifest Destiny, except for Alaska. Greenland would be another Seward's Folly...except I really do like Alaska.
I loved AK when I lived there. The bars were open 23 hrs a day, 180 proof liquor, and men outnumbered the women 3 to 1. What's not to love?
Yeah, but as they told me when I visited AK - the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
I was stationed at Eielson AFB. Where were you?
Uh, yeah, that's an understatement. I was at a comedy club one night with my then boyfriend and this man sits down beside me at the bar. Apparently he hadn't talked to a woman in 6 months because he been in the bush for the last 6 months. He was actually very nice, but it was just odd to talk to a man who hadn't spoken to basically anyone for 6 months.
My bf was stationed there but I enlisted in the Army when living there.
Stationed, perhaps, a t Thule AFB?
Thule AFB is in Greenland
Correct
Then I guess we have had demented people offering to buy it for about 150 years.
It is not so much demented as it would cost money that can be utilized here better.
Truman tried. Once. That's hardly precedent for Trump's gaffe. And his thin skin - I can't believe what a snowflake he is. All wounded when his idea was called absurd, he whined "they can't say that" - with all the insults he spews every day! The man is demented.
Maybe he thought they would part with it for a dollar
No, that's exactly what "precedent" is. Someone has done it before. Once, or 500 times doesn't matter.
We don't run around screaming about how insane Truman was for his effort. But when Trump wants to do it, it's not enough to say it's unnecessary or even ill-advised. It's a gaffe! It's insane! What is this world coming to? Trump has lost his mind!
Do you not see how extreme and unfair that reaction is?
Who....Cadet Bone Spurs and all his deferments to avoid having to serve his country and risk getting hurt? And he thinks he deserves an Medal of Honor!
I don't understand why you or anyone else thinks it's so absurd. All I hear is that it's ridiculous, but not why it's ridiculous. If you can articulate a reason, that would at least be novel.
Maybe just for some contrast, you can explain why it wasn't absurd for Denmark to sell the Virgin Islands to the US in 1916 ?
I see. You don't have a reason. That's about what I expected.
I don't know. Maybe that's how the cool kids spell it . . . in Russia.
Just for laughs, Tex... try flipping that sentence:
A question, Tex: Is there anything that Trump has done since arriving in office, that you consider unworthy of a President of the United States? Anything at all?
That was a century ago, near the end of the colonial era. Bringing it into a current debate is kinda sorta anachronistic...
Seriously?
Why do right-wingers see "hatred" everywhere? Is it a reflection of their own world-view?
I've seen lots of astonishment, even shame, that a President could be so wacky... but "hatred"???
Where did you see "hatred"?
"Hatred" just isn't characteristic of the left. There may be a tiny fringe way out on the far-far-far left, but the mass of mushy Dems doesn't "hate" anyone.
MAGA people hate. They scream their hatred at every one of Trump’s rallies. They scream their hatred in front of abortion clinics. And so on...
So when we hear a right-winger talking about others' hatred, I guess they're just projecting.
That's how the orange chief pronounced it. It was more like "obzurd"
Prove me wrong. Just post some example of leftish "hatred".
What. An. Idiot.
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Well, there ya go. Straight from the horse's mouth
More like the horse's ass.
Trump has reason to be offended. Denmark has sold land to the US previously (Virgin Islands) and the US has made previous offers on Greenland that were received seriously and with respect. Acting like such talk is beyond the pale now smacks of personal animosity toward Trump. I don't think Trump did anything to Denmark to warrant such disrespect.
Yes, they were. Very undiplomatic. But maybe you don't mind that.
It is not that he wants to buy it, but his attitude and twitter tantrum when they said no dice. You call him calling the PM Nasty being respectful?
The PM was nasty to him first. That's how these things always go. Somebody disrespects Trump; he fires back; and everyone makes a big deal about what Trump said, while ignoring the original provocation.
Considering that the US has previously talked with Denmark about buying Greenland, and also that the US actually did buy the Virgin Islands from Denmark, it's ignorant and disrespectful to treat Trump's interest in Greenland as somehow unusual or inappropriate.
"Undiplomatic" means "against the normal practices of diplomacy". The word is applicable to talking about acquiring a territory, so widely that the story is absolutely certain to make it into the media... before talking to the authorities of the other country.
But of course, we now expect Trump's behavior to break normal standards.
Seriously?
Trump's chatter allowed speculation about acquiring Greenland to reach the media... before he ever talked to the proper Danish authorities.
And you blame the Dane? Seriously?
All she said was no. Now...I know the Donald is not used to hearing that 2 letter word...but maybe it's time he learned the meaning of it.
He acts like a 2 year old when told no
No, actually she publicly said the idea was "absurd." It's not. Diplomatically, that response was unnecessarily rude and was apparently intended to embarrass the president.
Oh, c'mon, it was not! It certainly wasn't worse than any thing trmp has said.
It would be like you asking to buy my cat. I would tell you don't be absurd...I'll give him to you
It was. A diplomatic response would have been to simply say "Greenland is not for sale and Denmark has no intention of selling." Instead, we got the dramatic and unfair "absurd." There was no need for that. It could serve only to embarrass the president.
Trump can certainly be rude himself, but he doesn't set the standard for everyone else's behavior.
Why is Trump owed a diplomatic response when he didn't use a diplomatic approach?
And then the snowflake had yet another public temper tantrum.
He's an embarrassment to the country. Now he's questioning whether the Fed Chairman is more of an enemy than the President of China ... Trump is a true enemy of our country at this point.
Uh, yeah, he kinda does because he started it. The Danish PM probably thought I'm gonna be just as diplomatic as he is.
Why shouldn't people be rude right back to him?
Like I just said, the behavior of one person should not dictate the behavior of others. That's the opposite of diplomacy. You would be plenty critical of Trump if he said something obnoxious about another world leader and you wouldn't be interested in hearing about the rude things that leader has said or done to deserve it. You would be correct if you said we should rise above that kind of petty back and forth. Instead, you have a double standard. Why? Because Trump.
Started it how?
Then you should have no objection to Trump being rude to people who have been rude to him first.
Or do you believe that never happens?
I don't actually consider the word "absurd" to be rude. The "nasty" comment - that was rude. His favorite word to use about women who say no to him.
You know the NT rules - it's just fine to criticize an idea, which she did. It is not fine to insult someone, which is what he did. See the difference?
If Trump hadn't gone about this in his usual blundering, impulsive fashion, the word "absurd" wouldn't have been necessary in the first place. She was blindsided and responded accordingly when she realized Trump was serious. No mention was made about discussing the purchase of Greenland when this meeting was set up - and now suddenly that's the whole purpose of the meeting?
I'm pretty sure the Danish PM reads at least one newspaper a day. trmp is pretty much in the news every day with his trash talk.
What goes around comes around.
Apparently it is - if you're not named Trump. At least that's the argument you people are making.
Where exactly was trump going to get the money in the first place? Not a bank on the planet would loan that loser money. Was he waiting for coupon day? Put it on layaway at Wal-Mart, (while dodging bullets), or maybe Black Friday on Amazon?
Greenland is 2.1 million sq. Km, roughly 1/4 the size of the USA... it's not a "little island". It would cost trillions of dollars even if it was for sale.
By hook or crook, him being the crook.
From Bibi and Putin? Or maybe donations from all his rabid supporters, and the likes of the NRA, White Supremacists, Big Oil companies, and......
.......of course...Mexico. /sarc
According to this story in USA Today , it might only about $500 billion. I think I can live with that.
Then send him your money.
I already do. It's called taxes. Now, if only I could get Democrats to stop pissing it away on useless garbage. I'd much rather see it spent expanding the holdings of the United States as opposed to say, funding a production of "Doggie Hamlet," making 3D scans of puppets, have the DOD watch gnatcatcher birds, spending $1 billion on 10 miles of trolley line in San Diego, $6 billion for California's high speed rail to nowhere. How about over $3 billion for vacations for federal employees already on leave because they are being investigated for misconduct? And don't even get me started on the government programs taken advantage of by illegal aliens.
There is so much garbage that the US government already wastes my tax dollars on. Actually investing in what would likely be highly productive land seems pretty freaking smart by comparison.
I think we should take that money he wants to spend on Greenland and spend a tenth of it in Puerto Rico.
Then give the rest of of it to the VA so they can upgrade their hospitals
Those are fine ideas, also.
Thank-you.
Trump was invited by their queen. When he blew off the trip, it was an insult to her. I doubt she will extend another invite.
I wonder if Trump knows that we have an airbase in Greenland. We've been there since during WWII...
Oh well, goggle is your friend Trump.
NASA spends time there as well...More goggle.
I think he does, but as a real estate mogul, maybe he figures it's better to own than to rent.
He didn't even know where PR was and you think he knows there is a base in Greenland?
If he didn't, he probably does now. Not sure how that is relevant.
I will take places and things Trump doesn't know where they are for 200 Alex.
This whole fricken farce is just too much
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It took me TWO DAYS to comment on this beyond joke