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The Church Of MAGA

  

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By:  john-russell  •  6 years ago  •  152 comments

The Church Of MAGA

The Lincoln Project has released a video about the great religious figure Donald Trump


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    6 years ago

The Lincoln Project — a group of prominent Republicans disenchanted with President   Donald Trump , whose ranks include   George Conway   — released a searing two-and-a-half minute video aimed at evangelical supporters of the commander-in-chief. In it, clips of Trump speaking on matters of faith are spliced are juxtaposed with footage of the president using crass language and making otherwise vile comments.

The video began with a quote from the Bible, Matthew 7:15, which reads, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s. clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

Seconds later, Trump is seen saying “Why do I have to repent? Why do I have to ask for forgiveness?”

Other notable moments from the clip package include; footage of the president saying he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose support, as well as the president calling himself the “chosen one.”

“If this is the best American Christians can do, then God help us all,” a pair of graphics read, in the video’s closing frames.

Along with Conway, The Lincoln Project includes notable figures from the cable news world, including   Steve Schmidt , and   Rick Wilson .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 years ago

That's quite a video from as you call them "disenchanted Republicans!"

I have one too. I'd like to dedicate it to all the progressives, old fashioned liberals, FDR, and the old college professors who used to cover for Joe Stalin and are now suddenly concerned by the threat of "Russia". :




 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3  Thrawn 31    6 years ago

This is super gay. Whatever in the fuck this is.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4  TᵢG    6 years ago

The promotion of Trump as a religious man ... a religious hero ... is amazing to behold.   It shows that partisanship preempts even religion.   Impressive (while disgusting).

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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4.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  TᵢG @4    6 years ago

I think it's a step in the right direction as we know Trump really exists.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1    6 years ago

Good one Dean.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @4    6 years ago

Does a "religious hero" continually break commandments?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.2    6 years ago

Apparently facts and reasoning are not employed in this assessment.    jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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4.2.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.2    6 years ago

Sure take Zeus for example he was known to have had many affairs. He flooded the world with the help of his brother Poseidon to kill humans and used lightning bolts to kill and terrorize humans. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2.2    6 years ago

Christians dont accept your heathenous interpretation Dean. You need to seek your lord and savior's forgiveness. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.4  Gordy327  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    6 years ago
Christians dont accept your heathenous interpretation Dean.

What makes Christian interpretations right and everyone else wrong? The thing about "religious interpretation" is that it's little more than one's word against another's.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Gordy327 @4.2.4    6 years ago

I was being sarcastic Gordy.  I wish you would show as much verve in your opposition to Trump as you do in your opposition to Christianity. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.6  Gordy327  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.5    6 years ago
I was being sarcastic Gordy. 

It's hard to tell sometimes. Especially when there are those who would say the same thing you did and be dead serious about it.

I wish you would show as much verve in your opposition to Trump as you do in your opposition to Christianity. 

I've hardly spoken about Trump at all either way.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.2.7  cjcold  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2.2    6 years ago

Wow! So your belief in mythology knows no bounds.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.9  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.8    6 years ago

Quite false and untruthful!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.2.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2.2    6 years ago
Sure take Zeus for example ......

Zeus is not a Judeo-Christian god. Try again.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.2.11  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.10    6 years ago

He did have children with us mortals. Kind of like god.  : )

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.12  Gordy327  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.10    6 years ago
Zeus is not a Judeo-Christian god. Try again

Does it matter? All gods are essentially the same.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.14    6 years ago

The vast majority of the planet does not believe in what you call the 'true God' so why are you so certain you are correct?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.16  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.13    6 years ago
Actually it was and is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  So much so that I apologize to no one for saying it and double down on it. 

No, it was a libelous statement with nothing to back it up. And doubling down on it on shows you doubling down on your dishonesty.

There is only one true God.  All the others are frauds and false created by the evil one in the minds of men and women.

That's nice. Prove it! Because until you do, your god is no more "true" or real than anyone else's god/s. That's also quite the arrogant statement to make. So, as TiG asked, why [or how] are you so certain? What makes you right and everyone else wrong?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.18  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.17    6 years ago

Proselytizing nonsense doesn't address the questions or challenges posed to you. But your obvious evasion tactic is obvious and intellectually dishonest.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.19  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.17    6 years ago

Yeah, that makes sense.   God engineers things so that the super-majority of human beings on Earth will be eternally separated from Him.   I suppose if He is no longer willing to kill everyone on the planet with a flood, He can just go with eternal separation.   A manufacturing process with a 75% reject rate; brilliant!

Some people eventually realize that religions simply do not make sense (a profound hint that they are man-made) and break free.   Others continue to parrot ridiculous 'logic' and abide by ill-conceived man-made rules sold as the word of God.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.20  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.19    6 years ago
   Others continue to parrot ridiculous 'logic' and abide by ill-conceived man-made rules sold as the word of God

I suppose some are so into their deity, they'll reject any semblance of logic or reality. It's delusion at its finest.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.21  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.14    6 years ago
There is only one true God.

I patiently wait for you to prove that. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.22  MrFrost  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.19    6 years ago
I suppose if He is no longer willing to kill everyone on the planet with a flood

Fun fact:

There is a place in Hawaii, (I forget the name), that had rain for 238 days in a row... No world wide flood. 

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.2.23  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.14    6 years ago

Incorrect..there are many faiths and many gods...your faith does not corner the market on god.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.25  Gordy327  replied to  lady in black @4.2.23    6 years ago
Incorrect..there are many faiths and many gods...your faith does not corner the market on god.

He just [Deleted] thinks his god/faith are the "true" ones and all others are false and evil.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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4.2.26  Raven Wing   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.2    6 years ago
Does a "religious hero" continually break commandments?

Does a "religious hero" continually engage in adultery, and covet his own daughter's body?

 
 
 
CB
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5  CB    6 years ago

I am glad to see the support finally arriving from conservatives who know how the game is won! The video should prick some on the right in their spirits!

 
 
 
CB
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6  CB    6 years ago

Trump's, "Grab them by the [fill in the blank]." is illustrative of Trump's worldview. Somewhere in his heart of hearts I imagine Trump truly believes he is a good person doing good for all of us. After the manner of pouring 'gallons' of castor oil down the nation's throat and by extension the world for both's own good. 

The issue here is that other presidents knew what was being asked of them, but they also knew that forcing free people to 'kneel' would invite backlash and resistance. So they all modulated and diluted their approaches to governing. Taking and passing only so much. 

However, this now highlights the supporters of Donald Trump as president. These "never satisfied" supporters (like Hannity, Limbaugh, and conservative think tanks) who can not be content to share the country with their fellows, but want the country to wholly be governed after their ideas.

That is a quick thought. Coffee time.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1  Split Personality  replied to  CB @6    6 years ago
That is a quick thought. Coffee time.

I've hit that age where any coffee during the day will keep me up all night ( to the consternation of some people here)

and it's just to early for wine, jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
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6.1.1  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    6 years ago

My Grandparent always had a cup of coffee at night while watching the news before bed.

I like my coffee with a little kick.  Haha

and it's just to early for wine

It is always five o'clock somewhere.  : )

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @6.1.1    6 years ago

I am waiting for the NFL playoffs. LOL

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.3  CB  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    6 years ago

HA!

I need just one mug a day and I try to make it off it. Although, I do add a number of "additives" to myself to carry over. Maybe, one less additive and I can get back to bed earlier than I do! Hmm. Thinking. . . . 

See? This is why it is good to have people in the virtual world to bounce some honest STUFF off: Y'all may pick up on what others in the real world miss!

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.4  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.2    6 years ago

Who's your picks for today?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @6.1.4    6 years ago

It's ugly but I have never thought much of Cousins, his record on Monday nights and in the playoffs is dismal. 

SF is better and they are at home.

I could care less about the Titans but Baltimore looks unstoppable at this point, especially at home

( Empty Bank stadium is empty no more, lol )

I'm going with the home teams jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.6  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.5    6 years ago

Yeah, I figure it's going to be the home teams. Although I would really like for it to be the Texans and the Titans in the AFC championship game.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @6.1.6    6 years ago

I am rooting for the Texans also.

My grandson is a big Titans fan

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.8    6 years ago

The 49ers represent the west coast elitist of urban CA, sorry,

You Jeffersonian separatists need your own team. jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

(sorry, could not resist)

Glad the 49er's won, I can wear my jersey one more time.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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6.1.10  KDMichigan  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    6 years ago

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Split Personality
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6.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.10    6 years ago

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Split Personality
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6.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.10    6 years ago

By the way, you are so far off topic dude........

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KDMichigan
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6.1.13  KDMichigan  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.12    6 years ago

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Split Personality
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6.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.13    6 years ago

oh my bad, I thought this was HA's seed and here it's JR's.

these comments might stand quite a bit longer than I originally thought

or as someone here is fond of saying.

"lighten up Frances".

512

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.1.15  MrFrost  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    6 years ago
I've hit that age where any coffee during the day will keep me up all night

Yep, I am getting there. If I drink caffeine after 4pm, i'll be up until 2am. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.1.16  MrFrost  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.14    6 years ago

Just my opinion but... Some people derail in the natural course of conversation with no malicious intent. Then there are those that derail because they enjoy taking the thread off topic/pissing people off with BS comments. 

IMHO.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.17  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @6.1.6    6 years ago

Totally shocked in the Baltimore gamejrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

But that's why they play the games, lol

Texans up next ( fingers crossed )

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.18  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.17    6 years ago

Go Texans!!

 
 
 
Ender
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6.1.19  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.17    6 years ago

I was upset when the Saints choked. Now I don't care.  Haha

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @6.1.18    6 years ago

great start !!

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.21  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.20    6 years ago

Yeah it is. Maybe being a top seed and having that time off isn't really as good a thing as it seems.

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.22  GregTx  replied to  GregTx @6.1.21    6 years ago

WTF?....... nevermind

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.23  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @6.1.22    6 years ago

Time is running out...jrSmiley_1_smiley_image.png darn it.

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.24  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.23    6 years ago

Yeah, the way the defence played in this game I'm not sure they would have had much of a chance against Tennessee even at home. 😶 

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    6 years ago

I just watched the video for a second time: It was worse this time around. I think I got more out of it and it's bad. Trump doesn't understand repentance? Nor forgiven? May be it is because he is a man full of pride and himself!

The Lincoln Project has got to get this ad out and on the air! Bring it on, Lincoln Project. Republicans are responsible for this "character-blight" on our country. It will be the patriotic duty of righteous republicans to see that Trump does not get reelected this fall!

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    6 years ago

The video is just a video.

However.  My cousin from Louisiana told me that, "Trump was sent to us by God and those who will not accept ( HIM ? ? ) will perish."

My friends, against that there is no defense.  She is serious..

 
 
 
CB
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8.1  CB  replied to  bbl-1 @8    6 years ago

And I am serious when I say to you, rebuke her (in the name of the Lord), in hopes of convicting her to consider her ways at issuing curses out of turn. Note: For the faithful "rebuking" in the manner suggested is a serious matter.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  CB @8.1    6 years ago

Can not rebuke.  Nothing to rebuke.  The Shadow of The Deceiver has over taken christianity.

The lines are drawn.  Lucifer smiles.

Rev. Hagee, "We will see the face of God in a thermonuclear explosion."

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  CB @8.1    6 years ago

Can not rebuke her or her followers.  The Shadow of The Deceiver has infiltrated christianity.

Rev. Hagee.  "We will see the face of God in a thermonuclear explosion."

Lucifer is pleased.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.2  Gordy327  replied to  bbl-1 @8    6 years ago
My friends, against that there is no defense. 

Except laughter. And perhaps a padded cell.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Gordy327 @8.2    6 years ago

"Padded cell."  ? ?

They vote. 

I even posed this to her and her friends.  I asked, "If Stephanie Clifford and Karen McDougal were angels sent by God to comfort Trump in his time of need."  Their reply was, "God works in mysterious ways."

Yeah, padded cells.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.2.2  Gordy327  replied to  bbl-1 @8.2.1    6 years ago

To be fair, Stormy & Karen look like they can certainly comfort. I would find a need to be comforted too jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
charger 383
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9  charger 383    6 years ago

Where has God been?  We have not heard from him in a long time

Why won't he show us he is the One True God so we will know he is the one?   I won't believe second hand reports or something written long. long ago and rewritten many times

If he is real and all knowing, then he can see many of what he made does need evidence to believe 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  charger 383 @9    6 years ago

The topic of this article is not whether or not God exists. 

 
 
 
JBB
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9.1.2  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.1    6 years ago

You falsely equated god with the damn gop...

Christ foretold of many such false prophets!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.1    6 years ago

But God is a big fan of the church of MAGA. 

If God has no morals at all, I could agree with you. 

 
 
 
CB
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9.1.7  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.5    6 years ago
David Brody described this dynamic in The  New York Times  almost two years ago. “Does Mr. Trump have moral failings? Yes. Critics will suggest a hypocrisy coming from evangelical leaders who are quick to denounce the ethical failings of others who don’t have an ‘R’ next to their name,” he wrote. “But the goal of evangelicals has always been winning the larger battle over control of the culture, not to get mired in the moral failings of each and every candidate. For evangelicals, voting in the macro is the moral thing to do, even if the candidate is morally flawed. Evangelicals have tried the ‘moral’ candidate before.”

If only you knew how STUPID that sounds coming from evangelicals. So if God wanted to "win the larger battle" why patiently make a world that proceeds along a evolving course of personal generational development? Why does God not dispense with all critics, squash dissent universally, and just make the new Heaven poof into existence immediately?

That is the moral failing in the Right-wing evangelical mind! And I emphasize "Right-wing evangelical," as you all are not the whole of the evangelical church good name you wish to usurp after doing major damages to your own sect.

God gave the Church one charge: To love and example God's Spirit (mind) on Earth.

It was supposed, mark you suppose, to be people as you and me, that the world can see God's spirit inside! However, some religious folks, as in every generation, without fail, manage to get a little power and go running around deluding themselves on their importance to God and abuse their itty-bitty portion. Thus, these foolish and arrogant people put the name of God up for a mockery. Instead of God being glorified because of these people-God is denigrated and rejected.

God does not need any man or woman to get out ahead of the plan of salvation. It is God's salvation plan foremost.

Right-wing evangelicals! Get back into your proper lane! Fix yourselves! God is in charge of appointed times and days. There is nothing you can say or do which will change that—or expect God to throw a wrench into your 'well-oiled' political engine yet again!

Get back to honesty and truth. And above all, stop letting President Donald Trump use your minds as one continuous, contiguous, political fun-house!

 
 
 
CB
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9.1.10  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.9    6 years ago
At least Trump is doing policies that will give us time to get the glorious message of salvation through faith and belief in Jesus to the whole world.

President Donald Trump is not simply an imperfect vessel he is an abusive vessel besides. Moreover, I can tell you he is abusive because of the lies, the selfish manipulation of other people's careers, using people and maligning them when they discover it, namecalling people as a ploy to escape deep and meaningful long-term interactions with me, cursing in public rallies no matter the presence of impressionables, forcing people to choose to stand with him against their better judgment, and going to extremes to not get caught running his administration as a scoundrel by hiding everything and swearing people to silence.

Conservatives have gotten more than you asked for in Donald Trump. Donald, he knows this. Trump has 65 million of you conservatives eating out of his hand and not the other way around.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9.1.11  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.1    6 years ago

Lucifer is not a God.  He is a fallen angel.  The MAGA church dwells in The Shadow.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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11  Sparty On    6 years ago

The Lincoln Project?    A group of “prominent” republicans?

Now there is a supposition that is laughable.    I admit I’m not involved much in republican or democrat politics but I’ve never heard of any of them.    Looking them up, some are FORMER republicans, some are never Trumpers and some are clearly RINO’s.    Hardly prominent .... any of them from what I’ve seen.

Sad attempt at pressing your narrative John.   Very sad

 
 
 
CB
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11.2  CB  replied to  Sparty On @11    6 years ago

And yet once upon a time in a party not long ago; a republican party "baby" in quotes was split in two because of a solitary figure: Donald J. Trump.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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12  Steve Ott    6 years ago

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The only way the Trump is being used by god is the same way that the kings of babylon, assyria and persia were used by god. To punish those chosen of god.

Good luck to ya.

 
 

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