Do not politicize coronavirus: WHO Director General Ghebreyesus warning to world leaders
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“For God’s sake, we have lost more than 60,000 citizens of the world,” said Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus in a passionate appeal to world leaders. “If you don't want many more body bags, then you refrain from politicizing it.”
The WHO helps all countries, not just China. Are you mad that Trump sent our medical supplies to China? Does that mean, to you, that Trump is a China boot licking commie? It should because he did the exact same thing the WHO did.
Please try growing a sense of humor before engaging your moderation highlighters.
Oh I can grow a great sense of humor if the soil conditions are right.
Nothing wrong with a little harmless trash talk.
Agreed, but when it gets vulgar and personal and includes family members it becomes more than harmless and indeed a CoC violation. And when someone flags it I'm one of those asked to address it. So I do.
Oh I can grow a great sense of humor if the soil conditions are right.
Debatable.
Agreed, but when it gets vulgar and personal and includes family members it becomes more than harmless and indeed a CoC violation. And when someone flags it I'm one of those asked to address it. So I do.
You clearly don’t understand good trash talk. Iggys gay comment was clearly trash talk (or at least I took it that way.). So was my retort about his sister. It’s metaphorical, not literal.
A good moderator can read that and read the biased intentions of certain post reporters. Maybe you can learn to do that. Right now you are failing. Over moderation sanitizes this place to the point of censorship imo.
I think that is pretty straight-forward, completely reasonable, and really not that difficult to respect. I hope you will agree. Thank in advance.
Rules made with best of intentions but the problem is it doesn’t account for moderator bias. It’s easy to see. More than one moderator here tickets mainly posters based on their biases. If you haven’t seen that, you haven’t been observing very well.
If I pushed the ticket button every time someone said something derogatory about another member I’d be pushing the ticket button all the time. Just like the ticket bitches here that do push the report button all the time that mods have to deal with constantly. That isn’t the answer imo.
That said I don’t agree and do think you are over moderating here. Just my opinion. I’m sure you won’t agree.
If I pushed the ticket button every time someone said something derogatory about another member I’d be pushing the ticket button all the time.
Tell me about it! I tend to push the Allow button more often, but think what you will.
Rules made with best of intentions but the problem is it doesn’t account for moderator bias.
I see. So you think I have been biased in my moderation? The comments I ticketed were indeed direct violations of the CoC, so how does bias factor into that? I really don't care who writes them, if they are brought to my attention and they don't pass the CoC test, I act. I can't apologize for that. I address what I see when I see it, in the limited time I have to spend here. Certainly I cannot read every single word posted by every single member. None of the mods can.
That said I don’t agree and do think you are over moderating here. Just my opinion.
Thank you. Opinion noted. .
If you prefer we moderators not "over-moderate", perhaps you could help out by at least trying to follow the CoC with your comments, and try to keep your comments about the topic and not about each other, nor about me or the other moderators. If they don't get flagged, they won't be over-moderated. Not my opinion, but rather fact.
Moderators should not be lecturing the commenters and members of the forum.
You are right including ones like this lecturing Moderators. ALL Meta comments on Moderation should be immediately Deleted, and will be going forward. Take it to Metafied guys!
I see that eventually, the WHO, China, this guy speaking, and probably lots of other people will have to answer for the way they have functioned during this crisis, but for now, I agree with him. Let's try to tamp down the politics and work the problem.
What is happening today is not a war by a country against another, this is a war of an enemy against all mankind, a true "War of the World" and in such a situation where disputes between countries and partisanship within countries has no place, where a concerted world effort and universal cooperation is necessary to defeat this enemy, and yet what we see is finger-pointing, blaming, racism, xenophobia, delays, excuses, false bravado and partisan politics. IGNORANCE!!! WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR HUMANITY? Good luck everyone. You sure as hell have an incredible desire to lose.
where disputes between countries and partisanship within countries has no place, where a concerted world effort and universal cooperation is necessary to defeat this enemy,
Exactly! And in my opinion the time for finger pointing is over. It's time to settle down and get to work to defeat this enemy
Ma Nature gave us a wakeup call considering how mild this virus is. Imagine if this virus had been something with the incubation period of Covid-19, but the virulence like smallpox?
Before the dust settles on this outbreak, we need to study what we got wrong, and how to fix that for the next pandemic.
Both sides are playing political football with this. Nothing changed after the last pandemic. I don't expect anything to change after this one; except maybe who occupies the WH.
As soon as this is over those in power will do their best to get everyone to move on as quickly as possible. Corporations will not be so quick to throw China out; and the politicians that take money from them will be all too willing to listen. The push will be on getting the economy moving; and which side will be able to credit for it. Getting critical supply manufacturing out of China, and back into the US will fall to the wayside and be forgotten. It will take too long, and disrupt too many production lines that need to start right away.
Until the next pandemic, when the exact same screaming and hand wringing will start.
I'm going to have to agree with Ronin. The time it will take to forget will be a little longer than usual, but we will just fall back on old ways, unless something was to change big time and I just don't see that, given human nature.
So, Dr. Ghebreyesus delivers a political speech to warn against politicizing the pandemic. Politically Dr. Ghebreyesus is engaged in a preemptive effort to thwart scrutiny. And, no doubt, the urgency of the political need is due to President Trump threatening to withhold US contributions to the World Health Organization.
It's all about the money.
On January 23, following an emergency committee meeting, the WHO issued a statement that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
On January 30, the WHO declares that the outbreak constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC).
On February 11, the WHO names the coronavirus COVID-19.
On March 11, the WHO declares the coronavirus outbreak is a pandemic.
The World Health Organization has been slow in providing guidance. According to the World Health Organization the pandemic began only 4 weeks ago. In the seeded video Dr. Ghebreyesus highlights the importance of national response to the emergency which is an obvious attempt to politically absolve the WHO of any responsibility. And Dr. Ghebreyesus makes the rather tepid accusation that politicizing the pandemic impedes international cooperation while carefully avoiding the WHO role in taking action to foster and sustain international cooperation.
The question that needs an answer is what purpose does the World Health Organization serve? Dr. Ghebreyesus provides no insight or answers to that question. Dr. Ghebreyesus is only pointing a political finger at those asking the question. Dr. Ghebreyesus delivered a political "how dare you" speech intended to disarm the question that needs to be answered.
The only entities politicizing this COVID-19 are the right wing conservative/republican operatives that continue to cling to the trouser pant legs of the one that cleverly referred to anything and everything which was not about him as a hoax.
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I'm thinking world leaders are going to be ignoring the WHO from now on.
the WHO will be lucky if they are not defunded by world leaders.
They should get rid of this China boot licking commie if they ever want to be trusted ever again.
The title of this tiny snippet of what the Director-General has said tells you all you need to know - the left has circled the wagons around him!
The WHO helps all countries, not just China. Are you mad that Trump sent our medical supplies to China? Does that mean, to you, that Trump is a China boot licking commie? It should because he did the exact same thing the WHO did.
What’s that got to do with China screwing the pooch on this outbreak and the WHO trying to cover for them?
China's into Beastiality now too...?
Only you would go there ..... working out some latent [DELETE] issues are you?
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and those countries are just as pissed off as ours.
I really hate sounding like JR but the moderating is really getting out of control here.
Please try growing a sense of humor before engaging your moderation highlighters. Nothing wrong with a little harmless trash talk.
Thanks in advance
There is no other (similar) forum that has the level of moderating that this one does. You either like it and accept it or you dont.
There will always be complaining because there is something to complain about.
We have a new moderator who seems a little over exuberant.
Moderators are not teachers or counselors, they are people like everyone else who have been given the authority to delete comments.
Oh I can grow a great sense of humor if the soil conditions are right.
Agreed, but when it gets vulgar and personal and includes family members it becomes more than harmless and indeed a CoC violation. And when someone flags it I'm one of those asked to address it. So I do.
From the CoC
Interpersonal Codes (essentially: ‘be polite’)
1. No direct or indirect derogatory references to other members
2. No taunting or bullying
3. Be civil
I think that is pretty straight-forward, completely reasonable, and really not that difficult to respect. I hope you will agree. Thanks in advance.
Debatable.
You clearly don’t understand good trash talk. Iggys gay comment was clearly trash talk (or at least I took it that way.). So was my retort about his sister. It’s metaphorical, not literal.
A good moderator can read that and read the biased intentions of certain post reporters. Maybe you can learn to do that. Right now you are failing. Over moderation sanitizes this place to the point of censorship imo.
Rules made with best of intentions but the problem is it doesn’t account for moderator bias. It’s easy to see. More than one moderator here tickets mainly posters based on their biases. If you haven’t seen that, you haven’t been observing very well.
If I pushed the ticket button every time someone said something derogatory about another member I’d be pushing the ticket button all the time. Just like the ticket bitches here that do push the report button all the time that mods have to deal with constantly. That isn’t the answer imo.
That said I don’t agree and do think you are over moderating here. Just my opinion. I’m sure you won’t agree.
Always! (-:
Tell me about it! I tend to push the Allow button more often, but think what you will.
I see. So you think I have been biased in my moderation? The comments I ticketed were indeed direct violations of the CoC, so how does bias factor into that? I really don't care who writes them, if they are brought to my attention and they don't pass the CoC test, I act. I can't apologize for that. I address what I see when I see it, in the limited time I have to spend here. Certainly I cannot read every single word posted by every single member. None of the mods can.
Thank you. Opinion noted. .
If you prefer we moderators not "over-moderate", perhaps you could help out by at least trying to follow the CoC with your comments, and try to keep your comments about the topic and not about each other, nor about me or the other moderators. If they don't get flagged, they won't be over-moderated. Not my opinion, but rather fact.
Again, thanks for opinion. See you around.
Nah, no lecture needed but thanks for trying.
Sorry, no lecture intended. Just explaining how moderation works here and why I did what I did.
You're welcome. Any time! (-:
Moderators should not be lecturing the commenters and members of the forum. Period. You must be new.
You are right including ones like this lecturing Moderators. ALL Meta comments on Moderation should be immediately Deleted, and will be going forward. Take it to Metafied guys!
I see that eventually, the WHO, China, this guy speaking, and probably lots of other people will have to answer for the way they have functioned during this crisis, but for now, I agree with him. Let's try to tamp down the politics and work the problem.
What is happening today is not a war by a country against another, this is a war of an enemy against all mankind, a true "War of the World" and in such a situation where disputes between countries and partisanship within countries has no place, where a concerted world effort and universal cooperation is necessary to defeat this enemy, and yet what we see is finger-pointing, blaming, racism, xenophobia, delays, excuses, false bravado and partisan politics. IGNORANCE!!! WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR HUMANITY? Good luck everyone. You sure as hell have an incredible desire to lose.
Exactly! And in my opinion the time for finger pointing is over. It's time to settle down and get to work to defeat this enemy
Hiya, Suz! Hope you are doing well
Ma Nature gave us a wakeup call considering how mild this virus is. Imagine if this virus had been something with the incubation period of Covid-19, but the virulence like smallpox?
Before the dust settles on this outbreak, we need to study what we got wrong, and how to fix that for the next pandemic.
It's not nice to f*#k with Mother Nature and humanity has done it far too much already! Payback is a bummer. Like you said, this is a wake up call,
Wasn't that an Imperial margerine commercial or something, where she is fooled into thinking she just had butter ?
Actually, it was Chiffon. I though it was Parkay
say what/?
butter butter butter
PaarrrrrrrrrrrKKKKKKKaaaaaa
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I thought it was Parkay, my bad.
correct, i just looked up myself.
70 commercials that were amusing
Couldn’t agree more.
Shoulda been done long ago but the people we elect have been too busy playing politics to do jobs like that that we hire them to do.
Its gotta change!
It's as virulent as smallpox but quite as deadly
that's supposed to be "not quite as deadly"
Both sides are playing political football with this. Nothing changed after the last pandemic. I don't expect anything to change after this one; except maybe who occupies the WH.
As soon as this is over those in power will do their best to get everyone to move on as quickly as possible. Corporations will not be so quick to throw China out; and the politicians that take money from them will be all too willing to listen. The push will be on getting the economy moving; and which side will be able to credit for it. Getting critical supply manufacturing out of China, and back into the US will fall to the wayside and be forgotten. It will take too long, and disrupt too many production lines that need to start right away.
Until the next pandemic, when the exact same screaming and hand wringing will start.
I'm going to have to agree with Ronin. The time it will take to forget will be a little longer than usual, but we will just fall back on old ways, unless something was to change big time and I just don't see that, given human nature.
So, Dr. Ghebreyesus delivers a political speech to warn against politicizing the pandemic. Politically Dr. Ghebreyesus is engaged in a preemptive effort to thwart scrutiny. And, no doubt, the urgency of the political need is due to President Trump threatening to withhold US contributions to the World Health Organization.
It's all about the money.
On January 23, following an emergency committee meeting, the WHO issued a statement that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
On January 30, the WHO declares that the outbreak constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC).
On February 11, the WHO names the coronavirus COVID-19.
On March 11, the WHO declares the coronavirus outbreak is a pandemic.
The World Health Organization has been slow in providing guidance. According to the World Health Organization the pandemic began only 4 weeks ago. In the seeded video Dr. Ghebreyesus highlights the importance of national response to the emergency which is an obvious attempt to politically absolve the WHO of any responsibility. And Dr. Ghebreyesus makes the rather tepid accusation that politicizing the pandemic impedes international cooperation while carefully avoiding the WHO role in taking action to foster and sustain international cooperation.
The question that needs an answer is what purpose does the World Health Organization serve? Dr. Ghebreyesus provides no insight or answers to that question. Dr. Ghebreyesus is only pointing a political finger at those asking the question. Dr. Ghebreyesus delivered a political "how dare you" speech intended to disarm the question that needs to be answered.
He who must not be questioned.
blaming china for the mess they created will cause more deaths? bs
someone needs to make that prick explain his threats.
The only entities politicizing this COVID-19 are the right wing conservative/republican operatives that continue to cling to the trouser pant legs of the one that cleverly referred to anything and everything which was not about him as a hoax.
You say as you politicize this. I imagine you don't see the problem here.
Right, the Democrats and media are not politicizing this at all.