U.S. spy agencies collected raw intelligence hinting at public health crisis in Wuhan, China, in November
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Via: perrie-halpern • 6 years ago • 38 commentsBy: Ken Dilanian, Robert Windrem and Courtney Kube
Current and former officials say there was no formal assessment in November but that there was raw intelligence that fueled formal assessments written in December.
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just more damn evidence that the mental midget in Chief, chose not to read, or have read to him, probably by Baron, the intelligence reports that report Trump has very little.
How many former administration personnel stated Trump did/could not read much ?
The deaths of many an American can be attributed to Trumps' inactions, downplaying of the seriousness of the virus, plus flat out blatant Lies about the pandemic.
Trump is in so far over his head, it's difficult to watch him and know he hasn't any idea about what he, or his experts, have just said. And it happens at every pep rally/pandemic briefing where Trump is anything but brief.
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He never should have been a viable candidate, the nominee of the GOP, and especially elected the potUS.
He has continually proven to be a pathetic and insecure little man, who is without morals and or ethix. He is a habitual liar with NO Desire to work for the citizens of the United States. His self interests are his only priority. He consistently continues to divide US, along with alienating US from the world.
And the silent GOP House and Senate should be damn ashamed. They've let this microbial malignancy meander through the motions, all as he broke and or took enough, laws, and or codes of conduct to fill a freight trane of derailed thought with the oceans of monies his never ending lies, had sought, as he has been bought.
and sold out to the cheapest bidder who then Putin him in charge, all as he was blatantly caught, by his tales so tall, they made his hands look small.
He's gotta go this Fall.
The intelligence was distributed to some federal public health officials in the form of a "situation report" in late November... there was no assessment that a lethal global outbreak was brewing at that time, a defense official said.
On Wednesday night, the Defense Department disputed an ABC News report that an "intelligence report" had warned about the coronavirus in November.
Sorry Igno, looks like a failure of those deep-staters whom Trump assails for inefficiency.
"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters," he said. "However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists."
In other words the headline is misleading and the story should have been included.
Exactly!
Relying on the acuity of political hindsight is unwise. Politicians tend to utilize hindsight to cover their own asses. And I question the veracity of claims portraying US intelligence as being exquisitely competent; there have been far too many failures in the past.
Did China lie? No doubt. That would be consistent with past behavior of the Chinese government. And that past behavior provides the seed for political conspiracy theories used to absolve US politicians of their own short sighted, self serving complicity in what has happened. Do not ignore that while China was lying about the outbreak, political Washington was engrossed in removing a President from office. The American public was laser focused on the spectacle of impeachment.
We should be familiar with the graphs showing spread and increasing fatalities caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. The graphs show that the first stage is spread of the infection. After one or two weeks fatalities begin to appear. The number of fatalities begin increasing rapidly about two to three weeks following the first fatality. In the United States the first confirmed COVID-19 case was identified on January 21. That individual had traveled from Hubei Province, China, to the United States on January 15. The first fatality due to COVID-19 was reported on February 29. The total number of fatalities due to COVID-19 surpassed 100 on March 4. That follows the usual pattern of how infectious diseases spread: spread of infection, incubation, fatalities. The pattern observed in the United States indicates that sequence of events occur over a five or six week period before the outbreak becomes a pandemic.
That suggests that the initial spread of an unknown virus causing infections and symptoms could have occurred as early as October in Hubei Province, China. But the United States political system was engrossed in the political spectacle of impeachment during October, November, December, and January. To think that a small number of patients in Hubei Province in November would attract the attention of political Washington embroiled in the public spectacle of impeachment requires suspending disbelief.
The underlying reason the United States was ill prepared for the coronavirus outbreak was the result of our own political priorities. Our own political parties were engaged in pursuing a short sighted, self serving political agenda to derive political benefit from a public spectacle. And one political party, in particular, was consuming the attention of bureaucratic managers of the intelligence agencies. The intelligence agencies were politically distracted by the public spectacle of impeachment. Don't forget that the intelligence agencies provide those formal assessments to Congressional intelligence committees, too. But Congress was too preoccupied.
Yes, political Washington can blame China. But that won't fix the stupidity of our political system. Blaming China is a distraction that avoids holding political Washington responsible and accountable.
Not only a distraction but an intentional deflection.. Yes, China wrongly covered up the virus until January, but then the USA became aware of it no later than mid-January and did fuck-all anything serious about it until March. You can't blame China for that.
China is not blameless in what has transpired. And, yes, the Chinese government has not been honest or forthcoming with information. That is consistent with past behavior by the Chinese government.
Wuhan, Hubei Province, China, really is ground zero; the pandemic started there.
Also keep in mind that Rep. Adam Schiff is chairman of the House intelligence committee. Schiff should have received the intelligence assessments and briefings provided the President. However, Schiff was ass deep in managing the articles of impeachment and making the argument to remove the President from office. What did Adam Schiff know and when did he know it?
Did I deny it? Rubbing it in is just continuing the deflection of finger-pointing, blaming, causing xenophobia and racist reactions, and inconsistencies in dealing with the virus, when what is really required is a universal world-wide cooperative international effort focused on solving the problem of a world-wide pandemic rather than trying to compound it. In that regard, whether or not the Director-General of WHO is praised or criticized, he is correct in that request.
"what is really required is a universal world-wide cooperative international effort" , but I guess that only happens in the movies.
The pandemic has forced us all to become nationalists. That's the reality. A call for world-wide cooperation doesn't exclude China and won't absolve China.
The Chinese government has a vested interest in placing blame on the United States. Expecting the Chinese government to openly participate in a world-wide cooperative international effort would be inconsistent with past behavior. That movie has never been made.
Xi calls for all-out global war against COVID-19 at extraordinary G20 summit
Did he say "EXCEPT for the USA?" Are you saying it should be "Except for China" - that would be SO HUMANITARIAN.
Then why did the United States need assessments by it's intelligence agencies? That's the topic of reporting in the seeded video. The Chinese government did not warn the world; that was provided by unauthorized release of information. And the unauthorized informant was subsequently arrested by the Chinese government.
From the link you provided, President Xi Jinping only reiterated what everyone already knows. On March 27 the world already knew that the coronavirus was spreading rapidly due to cross-border travel. And the world already knew that treatments and preventative therapies were needed. Xi is only stating the obvious as justification for governments to exert authoritarian nationalist control over the situation. It's a polite way of encouraging other countries to adopt the practices of the Chinese government.
What is Xi Jinping committing to do? Xi has committed to sharing Chinese practices and capacity with the world. In other worlds, Xi is committing to spread the authoritarian style of Chinese governing and committed to utilizing Chinese manufacturing capacity to rebuild the Chinese economy.
Xi did not offer any sort of philanthropic humanitarian assistance. In fact, Xi avoided committing China to any sort of tangible contribution in controlling the pandemic.
Is that so?
I have watched news videos of Chinese covid-19 medical teams arriving in various countries, seen planeloads of Chinese medical supplies being unloaded in different countries, and watched video-conferences of Chinese doctors experienced with dealing with the virus video-conferencing giving advice to doctor-teams in other nations. I may not believe everything I read and hear, but i damn well believe what I saw.
Did you see all the videos of defective tests and safety gear being returned?
Did you see videos of countries donating PPE that they desperately need now to China in January and February? Are you seeing videos of China selling donated equipment back to the countries that donated it? I never see you mention that for some reason. Only the talking points that the CCP issues seems to come from your account.
"Hatred is something peculiar. You will always find it strongest and most violent where there is the lowest degree of culture." (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe)
I try my best to think positively, which could be one of the reasons why I can be happy anywhere. You see, I have no fear of Communism, and so I don't have the reason to hate it like you do.
This had been a known threat for months before it showed up in the US. FFS it was in the "fake news" in November. This pandemic was a surprise to absolutely no one in the US except our idiot fucking president.
You keep saying this and not responding to what is posted above. The intelligence agencies have come out and stated that the news reports are not true.
Don't know what post you are referring to and don't care enough to look. But based upon your comment I am assuming we are talking about different things.
In other words.."I prefer to remain blind to the truth as long as I can blame Orange Man Bad".
American INTEL are very aware of occurrences and trends in nearly every country. Either the Administration decided to ignore it, or was preoccupied with personal election matters, or even worse was trying to devise a way to use 'this problem' as a lever to an economic or political end.
Here is the rest of it:
WASHINGTON — U.S. spy agencies collected raw intelligence hinting at a public health crisis in Wuhan, China, in November, two current and one former U.S. official told NBC News, but the information was not understood as the first warning signs of an impending global pandemic.
The intelligence came in the form of communications intercepts and overhead images showing increased activity at health facilities, the officials said. The intelligence was distributed to some federal public health officials in the form of a “situation report” in late November, a former official briefed on the matter said. But there was no assessment that a lethal global outbreak was brewing at that time, a defense official said.
On Wednesday night, the Defense Department disputed an ABC News report that an “intelligence report” had warned about the coronavirus in November.
“We can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is incorrect,” said a statement by Dr. R. Shane Day, an Air Force colonel who is director of the National Center for Medical Intelligence, a unit of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency. “No such NCMI product exists.”
news.immitate.com/2020/04/10/u-s-spy-agencies-collected-raw-intelligence-hinting-at-public-health-crisis-in-wuhan-china-in-november-nbc-news/
As anyone can see the headline is very misleading