Trump’s ‘Law and Order’ Message Not Resonating

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  3 weeks ago  •  40 comments

Trump’s ‘Law and Order’ Message Not Resonating
Trump trails Biden by 5 percentage points in the state on the issue of “policing and criminal justice.”

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Trump’s ‘Law and Order’ Message Not Resonating


September 2, 2020 


The new  Fox News poll  in Wisconsin — conducted entirely after the unrest in Kenosha — suggests President Trump’s law and order stance isn’t working: Trump trails Biden by 5 percentage points in the state on the issue of “policing and criminal justice.”



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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
The violent protests in Kenosha last month, sparked by the police shooting of Jacob Blake, coincided with a decisive shift in  Donald Trump ’s campaign to focus on law and order. The president used the rubble-strewn streets as a backdrop for his new message: Without him, chaos would reign, he argued.

And yet, even after weeks of focused messaging, after the violent scenes in Kenosha, and his marquee visit, there is little sign that the message is breaking through in suburbia.

“There’s nothing he can do to fix the problem,” says Nicole O’Doniel, a 35-year-old mother who grew up in Pleasant Prairie and recently purchased a home there.

“I can’t look at his message and think it’s going to be positive after the last four years. I don’t want to repeat that. I’d rather give somebody else a chance. You know, I can’t see it being worse.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-tried-to-use-kenosha-to-pitch-law-and-order-to-suburbs-but-his-message-isn-e2-80-99t-breaking-through/ar-BB18EQIi?ocid=uxbndlbing
 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Morning Joe reported today that polls taken AFTER the Republic convention and after Trump began his "law and order" splurge show no gains for Trump and Biden maintains a healthy lead just as before. 

It seems the American people are rejecting his ceaseless fear mongering. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago
It seems the American people are rejecting his ceaseless fear mongering.

I hope so, but this is no time to slack off.  

Dump Trump 2020!!!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago
"Without him, chaos would reign, he argued."

Wait a sec, chaos is reigning now, and he's the one in charge.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    3 weeks ago

we do not have a central government

trump is not responsible for problems  democrats start in democrat cities and states 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1    3 weeks ago
trump is not responsible for problems 

WTF?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

LOL. In almost all cases he IS the problem. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
WTF?

english 101 = read all the words together... not just the ones you like.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 weeks ago
In almost all cases he IS the problem.

in all left wing cases, trump is a huge problem. for the rest of us, not so much.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
3.1.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1    3 weeks ago

Lol, good god, you give the president more of a pass than I give my 5 year old daughter, fucking pathetic. 

When it comes out that Trump molested Ivanka (we all know he did) you will blame her for being too small to fight him off.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1    3 weeks ago
"we do not have a central government"

These days, for sure.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

Just because he said he isn't doesn't mean it is true.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

That's the truth Buzz.  We have no leader.  We have no 'president'.  We haven't had one for almost four years now.  

Sometimes 8 ball does speak the truth, though unintentional.  

He's usually jrSmiley_44_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.9  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.5    3 weeks ago
you give the president more of a pass

nothing trump has done or could do is worse than putting this country in the hands of today's leftwing lunatics.

 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.10  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.6    3 weeks ago
These days, for sure.

these days?   LOL   you have no clue how our system works.

central government?   try NEVER

we have a "federalist government -  aka the FEDS

every city/state that is burning?  run by democrats   

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

LOL

You have no clue how our system works.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

Congratulations on how WELL the American SYSTEM has been working THESE DAYS.  Americans can be very proud.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.13  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.12    3 weeks ago
Congratulations on how WELL the American SYSTEM has been working THESE DAYS.  Americans can be very proud.

don't you worry none about us... we will be just fine.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
3.1.14  SteevieGee  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1    3 weeks ago

We do have a central government.  It's weak by design but everything Trump does shows his intent to strengthen it.  Specifically, the executive branch.  He attacks the Constitution daily by attacking American citizens who are exercising their Constitutional rights.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.15  MUVA  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.14    3 weeks ago

No.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.16  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.14    3 weeks ago
We do have a central government. 

no. our states tell the feds to fuk off on a regular basis. (  examples: weed, obamacare  )

try telling a central government like in china to fuk off...  see what happens then

the rest of your post is complete crap so I'm not going to bother.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.13    3 weeks ago

LOL.  Worry about YOU?  I'm worried only about my son and his family who live in Wisconsin, and the good friends I've made on NT.  Although I have never wished harm on anyone, I do feel sorry for the rest of you. 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
3.1.18  SteevieGee  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.16    3 weeks ago

And yet, your president repeatedly seems to want to cut off access to OUR TAX MONEY when we tell the central government to FUCK OFF.

 
 
 
zuksam
3.1.19  zuksam  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.14    3 weeks ago
attacking American citizens who are exercising their Constitutional rights.

Since when do Americans have the Constitutional Right to burn and loot cities. They have the right to protest while following all the other laws, they do not have the right to break laws and interfere with and violate other peoples rights. If the protesters stopped breaking laws they might actually accomplish something good but a large faction of the protesters are set on violent revolution along with another large faction that are just opportunistic thieves. Many great things in this Country have been accomplished by peaceful protest because this is a Democracy and peaceful protest can sway public opinion but violent revolutionaries who try to force change with threats and terrorist acts can't be allowed in a Democracy because it is undemocratic. The thing to remember is these protesters don't even make up 1/100th of a percent of our population so they have no right to Demand Anything in a Democracy. They have the right to peacefully start a grassroots movement and try to gain popular support for their movement and try to vote their way to the change they want. As long as they insist on Brown Shirt terrorist tactics they are criminals and need to be put in jail.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.20  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.18    3 weeks ago
we tell the central government to FUCK OFF.

that would be "tell the feds to fuk off"

so, tell me...

are you upset the "feds aka the "federal government does not pay to fix your burnt and broke ass cities?

 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4  Greg Jones    3 weeks ago

Don't be fooled by erroneous poll numbers. American citizens as a whole are decent and patriotic people who believe in law and order and support law enforcement officers.

It is very clear how all the recent chaos and violence came about....which political party appears to support and encourage it, and which party is attempting to do something about it.

Once again, the left is not able or not willing to understand the mood or core beliefs of the people.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4    3 weeks ago

It is hard to find a poll where Trump is winning. There are many where he is losing badly and he is well behind in the average of polls. 

Yet Trump tells his followers that the only way he can lose is if the election is stolen from him.  He is scum. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 weeks ago

"Stolen from him"?  Who's the thief?  Ask the musicians.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 weeks ago

In reality, at this time, the odds are about even, and will favor Trump by election day. The only way Biden can win is if the election is rigged. A likely scenario is that, after Trump wins in a landslide, garnering both the popular and electoral vote, is that the Dems will start discovering all kinds of "missing" mailed in ballots that will need to be counted and will sue to keep the results from becoming official

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
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JohnRussell
4.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    3 weeks ago

Obviously , by the barest use of logic, Trump should not be telling his supporters that the only way he can lose is if the election is stolen from him.  He is losing across the board. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago

The US voters are not stupid enough to elect Biden, what with an avowed far left socialist a few heartbeats away for the Oval Orifice.

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
4.1.6  Adam_Selene  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.5    3 weeks ago
The US voters are not stupid enough to elect Biden, what with an avowed far left socialist a few heartbeats away...

Oh - really?

Does Sanders qualify as a far left Socialist?

Real Clear Politics polling - Sanders vs. Trump  4.2 average lead.

In over a year of polling, Sanders beats Trump about 70 times - Trump manages what - 5 times?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago

You mean that Trump;will call more than half the voters in the USA thieves?  And he's a bigger thief that pretty well all of them. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
"In reality, at this time, the odds are about even, and will favor Trump by election day. The only way Biden can win is if the election is rigged. A likely scenario is that, after Trump wins in a landslide, garnering both the popular and electoral vote, is that the Dems will start discovering all kinds of "missing" mailed in ballots that will need to be counted and will sue to keep the results from becoming official"

You're such a good little trumpturd supporter.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

Yeah, his "law and order" message isn't working because all this shit is happening ON HIS WATCH. At this point, he has to take responsibility, but he won't because shirking responsibility is the number one trait of a baby-back bitch. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5    3 weeks ago

He tells people to vote twice which if they do is a felony and Trump has the nerve to say he is a law and order president.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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Paula Bartholomew
6.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @6    3 weeks ago

I do have to give Trump thanks for one thing.  If not for his idiocy, ineptitude, cons, stupidity, narcissism, corruption, sexism, and racism, I would never have discovered the brilliance of Noah, Colbert, and Kimmel who call him out on almost an hourly basis and prove everything on my list.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
7  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago
Trump’s ‘Law And Order’ Message Not Resonating

Lol how in the fuck could it? Quite literally all the lawlessness he is pointing at and decrying IS HAPPENING ON HIS WATCH, and his argument is "hey, this same stuff will happen if you vote for Biden, so instead vote for me and more of the same (if not worse)!"

 
 
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