Tucker Carlson Decries 'WAP' Performance at Grammys

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  one month ago  •  99 comments

By:   Josh Feldman (Mediaite)

Tucker Carlson Decries 'WAP' Performance at Grammys
Tucker Carlson railed against Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's performance of "WAP" at the Grammys Sunday night.

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By Josh FeldmanMar 15th, 2021, 9:10 pm

Tucker Carlson railed against Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's performance of "WAP" at the Grammys Sunday night.

He showed part of the performance before saying, "No more Dumbo. It's too filthy. We get that instead."

In speaking with Candace Owens, Carlson said, "It's hard not to conclude they're intentionally trying to degrade our culture and hurt our children."

Owens said, "Virtually, what we were looking at last night was a lesbian sex scene being simulated on television, and this is considered feminist."

"This feels more sinister. This is starting to me to seem like it's not even left or right, it's not a political issue. This seems like an attack on American values, American traditions, and you're actually actively trying to make children aspire to things that are grotesque," she added, calling it a celebration of "perversity."

Owens even said at one point, "You have these kids learning about critical race theory, they're learning that they should aspire to people like Cardi B. You see that fundamentally we are seeing the destruction of American values, American principles."

Carlson closed the segment by saying, "Totally degrading. And the same people who make it will lecture you about 'you hate women' or something."

You can watch above, via Fox News.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago

I guess this is what he is talking about.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

I watched as much of this video as I could bear, and I have to say, to me, this stuff is garbage. Not just the dancing and the low lifing, but also the music. It's terrible. 

But I'm not sure the fans of this type of performance are using this behavior to model their own behavior. I think they look at it more as excessive exhibitionism along the lines of professional wrestling. 

I didnt watch the grammies because I dont know any of the "artists" any more and I think most of the music they highlight is horrid. 

I dont think, however that it signals the end of western civilization. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
PhD Quiet
1.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    one month ago

I stuck it out to see Taylor Swift and a couple others.  Other than that my music tastes weren't satiated.  None the less, there's all kinds of music for all kinds of people and that is perfectly fine with me.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bbl-1 @1.1.1    one month ago

I think I read a story today that said the tv ratings for the Grammys last night were the lowest they've ever had. They have tipped the tv show too far in the direction of what we see in the seeded video. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
PhD Quiet
1.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    one month ago

Everything is being tipped anymore.  Tribalism is real here.  And Putin with the other autocrats need that to survive.

Remember, with every action there is a reaction.  For better or worse that is a reality that has withstood every test of the ages.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.4  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    one month ago
I think they look at it more as excessive exhibitionism along the lines of professional wrestling. 

It takes a warped imagination to acquaint Cardi's performance of WAP with professional wrestling.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.5  CB   replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.4    one month ago

I'm going to give you 'points' for that one! I love these "new kids" making America Great Again - for themselves. It's different. It's expressive.

It's visual. It's sensual. And, that is what these women are doing - 'inventin for mass media  a this genre. This 'Taste.' Babies are born from these lyrics. Bet on it!

They 'nasty.' So what? They perform it only for the "sexy" people!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.6  MonsterMash  replied to  CB @1.1.5    one month ago
They 'nasty.' So what? They perform it only for the "sexy" people!

They perform it for perverted knuckleheads.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.7  CB   replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.6    one month ago

I reckon they perform it for the youth who buy their music. And for that reason, I agree with their "Message." Not because I can't see it for what it is - female liberation!

So you see where some women's minds really are in the freedom 'game.' And I don't say that tongue-and-cheek. Some women want to be able to dance, sing, celebrate those 'big-bones' of theirs and all around not be  'mother material' every waking moment. I see it as their expression.

Try to roll with it; don't judge it. They hurt nobody. Nobody is hurt from this performance art!

Now, I am going back in for another 'look.'  Love that 'sinister' beat too!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.8  MonsterMash  replied to  CB @1.1.7    one month ago
Nobody is hurt from this performance art!

Women's rights groups say strip teasers are degrading to woman, porn is degrading to woman., but you say two woman on stage simulating lesbian acts is "art" 

What kind of "art" will the Grammys have next year,

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CB
Professor Principal
1.1.9  CB   replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.8    one month ago

Now whoa, MonsterMash. While you are "definitioning" for us go on and add performance art to your list!

I have seen pole dancers in my life working for real. I have seen strip teasers and other sensual stage presentations, and certainly I have seen Porn of several stripes. First off that was 'art imitating life' - as clothes are on. The censors were "on-point" and no erotica paraphernalia was lying about.

Now at to next year and "Stinky-Dinky" (which I could only find a reference about (no video or song) for RuPaul) if it did occur I likely would not know about it until somebody post it for me to observe and comment on! I don't follow the Grammy's - I simply got all the t-shirts a 'thousand moons' ago!

You don't like "Stinky on my Dinky"?  Well, you don't go where "Stinky.  . .  ." is airing the place out! That is what I do about it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.4    one month ago
It takes a warped imagination to acquaint Cardi's performance of WAP with professional wrestling.

I don't think so. Professional wrestling is forced masculinity and violence exaggerated to cartoonish effect and these music and dancing performances are forced sexuality exaggerated to cartoonish effect. The critics like Tucker Carlson think that the youth of the country will now run around dressed like Cardi B and twerking or stripping in the middle of a shopping mall but that is not what we see. A very small part of Cardi B's fans mimic her behavior, just like most WWE fans don't go around beating on their chest and physically threatening people. 

I don't like the video, I don't like the music and I don't like the message, it is trash, but it is not changing the world. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.10    one month ago

That was never Carlson's point.

He was contrasting the left's cancelling of Dr Seuss to it's promotion of the Grammy performance.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.11    one month ago

The 'left' never cancelled Dr. Seuss in the first place.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.12    one month ago

It's about the "values" of the left, you see!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.13    one month ago

Yes, we have values.  How about the 'right'?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.15  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.14    one month ago
How about the 'right'?

You won't find their values on MTV or that Grammy Awards performance (No offense to Cardi or Megan).

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    one month ago

What does Cardi B's performance have to do with the 'left' or 'liberals' in the first place?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.17  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.16    one month ago

Did the left cancel the performance?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.17    one month ago

I don't know.  Did they?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    one month ago

Nope, but they cancelled Dr Seuss and a host of other things. Thus the anxious concern of Tucker Carlson.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    one month ago
"Nope, but they cancelled Dr Seuss and a host of other things. Thus the anxious concern of Tucker Carlson."

No, they didn't.

I'm sure he's very concerned.

Like Thomas said below, I bet he watched that video over and over and over and over and over again because he was so concerned about the 'left's' lack of values!!!!!!!!!  I hope he had plenty of lotion and tissues handy.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.21  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    one month ago
... they cancelled Dr Seuss ...

The entity that owns the rights to Dr. Seuss' collected works (Dr. Seuss Enterprises) decided to stop printing six of his books due largely to outdated and offensive ethnic characterizations.   The publisher, Random House, has accommodated their wishes.   They did not cancel Dr. Seuss.

Analysis from a business perspective would suggest that Dr. Seuss Enterprises is trying to preserve its brand name (which is netting EBT ~$30 million per year).   If a company sees a threat to their brand they will often take action.   

Exaggerating reality seems to be the game with partisan politics.   A side will take a kernel of truth (e.g. 6 books no longer printed due to offensive material) and exaggerate this into 'they canceled Dr. Seuss'.     Many people will then run with the message 'canceled Dr. Seuss' without knowing what actually took place.   They would not know that the 'they' in this case is motivated to preserve the brand Dr. Seuss and that the action they took was to actually keep Dr. Seuss popular.  They are promoting Dr. Seuss; not canceling Dr. Seuss.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.21    one month ago

I don't know where else people can post outright lies practically every time they make a post, and get away with it like that.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.23  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.21    one month ago
 They did not cancel Dr. Seuss.

To the contrary:

"In a study published in 2019 in “Research on Diversity in Youth Literature” (this is an actual academic journal, seriously), researchers Katie Ishizula and Ramon Stephens found that only 2% of human characters in Seuss’ books were people of color. And all of these characters, they say, were depicted through racist caricatures.

The Washington Post ran two op-eds defending the decision to cancel Dr. Seuss titled: “The Time is Right to Cancel Dr. Seuss’s Racists Books,” and “If Curtailing Racist Imagery in Dr. Seuss is Cancel Culture, What, Exactly, is Your Culture?”

In “The Time is Right to Cancel Dr. Seuss Racists Books,” Ron author Ron Charles wrote, “After years of earnest efforts to create a more just society, the persistence of racist groups in America — given new energy by the rise of Donald Trump — has made many people realize that more aggressive steps must be taken to counter these attitudes. There’s been a heightened awareness of the way racism is subtly inscribed in our culture, including in our children’s books. Publishers have been trying to undo the damage with titles such as Ibram X. Kendi’s ‘Antiracist Baby,’ Bobbi Kates’s ‘We’re Different, We’re the Same,’ and Chana Ginelle Ewing’s ‘An ABC of Equality.’”




The entity you describe caved in to the pressure - from the left!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.23    one month ago

They responded to their market.   

What I wrote remains spot on.   This is basic business.   A brand-owner will always take actions to best protect its brand.   It does not care why the dynamics of the marketplace change, it simply cares about adapting the brand so that if fares as well as possible.

People who have a 'left' perspective are part of the Dr. Seuss customer base and thus affect, in part, the sales of Dr. Seuss products (and related uses of the brand by company's such as Disney).   

Bottom line, if the brand-holders believed that their consumers (the people who buy their products) were predominantly not offended or concerned about the characterizations in these six books, they likely would have continued printing and ignored the objections of others.   However, as is most likely the case here, if one's consumer base takes issue then it makes sense to respond.


But my key point was about exaggeration.  'They' did not 'cancel Dr. Seuss'.   'They' (Dr. Seuss Enterprises) took actions to preserve Dr. Seuss.  Their actions were not to cancel Dr. Seuss but rather to cease printing of 6 books from his collection.

Exaggeration and ultimately fake facts perpetuates the incessant divisive partisanship that continues to harm our nation.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.21    one month ago

Don't bother, TiG. Vic knows goddamned well that Dr Seuss wasn't "canceled". But he now has a bee in his bonnet and he's gone 'round the bend

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.26  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    one month ago
Thus the anxious concern of Tucker Carlson.

Tucker always looks anxious ... you would also if you had the same pickle stuffed firmly up your butt.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.27  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    one month ago

Tucker Carlson is making 'profit' off the Right. He 'cashed cow' the event for fodder. It is the same as Roger Ailes and then he was found out to be a sexual harrasser and paid big 'mint.' Bill O' Reilly and paid big mint, and so it will continue. . . . Apparently, men like women's body parts in 'big' ways enough to get in major trouble of it. Who knew?

Freedom is what you promised, Vic. Deal with it.

Incidentally, no one was harmed in the making of the Grammy production above!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.1.28  Thrawn 31  replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.4    one month ago
It takes a warped imagination to acquaint Cardi's performance of WAP with professional wrestling.

Hear hear! Glorifying violence for kids is perfectly acceptable, but sexuality? That’s a big fat no. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.1.29  Thrawn 31  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.24    one month ago

Tig, Vic just wants something to whine about and so he picked Dr. Seuss. We all know he doesn’t actually give a shit about Dr. Seuss, this is just something for those on the right to latch onto because they have nothing else. These idiotic culture wars that almost no one gives a shit about are all they have as a political party.

Forgive him, he can’t help it.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.30  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    one month ago

You are correct about where one might find the values of the right.  Like maybe a Ku Klux gathering, White nationalist meeting or a legislature devising ways to stop people from voting.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.31  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    one month ago

Tucker Carlson is 'workin' it' - he want s a proMOTion, because some of the 'talent' is getting themselves cancelled after the January 6, 2021 capitol destruction. There is open room at the top: Tucker is 'bouty-bouty' saying and starting culture wars on what the Top wants from a Bottom. That is, MORE ADS SOLD.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.32  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.23    one month ago
The entity you describe caved in to the pressure . . . .

It's called FREEDOM to make a proper business decision. I know you remember what those are!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.33  CB   replied to  Thrawn 31 @1.1.29    one month ago

Culture war is a 'go to' must when democrats are in control. Some elite conservatives want others to gaze through the liberals' windows AND SEE. . .

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.34  Drakkonis  replied to  CB @1.1.5    one month ago
They 'nasty.' So what? They perform it only for the "sexy" people!

This wasn't "sexy." This was like a parody of sexy. Further, I would hope this woman never attempts to express outrage over men treating women as sex objects because after watching what I could stand of the video, she has no credibility in that area. Mostly, though, it was just embarrassing to watch. 

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
1.1.35  Ender  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.34    one month ago

I don't think Right Said Fred was all that right...

Yet he thought he was and here we are stuck with the memories...

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.36  Drakkonis  replied to  Ender @1.1.35    one month ago

Yeah, I still have no idea whether he was serious or making a parody about fashion models or something. Either way, that was embarrassing to watch as well. And thanks. Probably won't be able to get that song out of my head, now. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.37  CB   replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.34    one month ago

Drakkonis, that was performance art. Tis all. Moreover, MEN and for that matter nobody else gets to treat independent-minded women like anything other than what they want it to be!

You often tout freedom. Do it now for these two women and their entourage!

What's embarrassing about freedom when absolutely no one is harmed?

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
1.1.38  Ender  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.36    one month ago

I also remember the outrage over Madonna rolling around the stage while signing Like A Virgin...

Point is, there is always something.

Imo if it is not ones cup of tea, go for a coffee.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.39  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  CB @1.1.37    one month ago

I don't like the song, musically, it is annoying, to me, but I understand I am not the audience. I am an old white guy who likes Frank Sinatra, Santana, Friends Of Distinction and Natalie Cole, not Cardi B.  Although I don't like it, I can't really judge the music. But what about these lyrics CB ? 

[Verse 2]
Bitches ain't fuckin' with me now and I can see why
Dirty-ass, dusty-ass bitch, you got pink eye
Bitches want smoke until I bring it to they doorstep
Tell that bitch back back, breath smell like horse sex (Ha)
Put it on him now, he will never be the same (He won't)
Tatted on my ass 'cause I really like the pain (Ah)
He nutted on my butt, I said, "I'm glad that you came"
If that nigga had a twin, I would let 'em run a train (Skrrt)

Those are the lyrics to the song she was performing on the Grammies, (they changed some of the words on tv to protect the innocent I guess you could say). 

What is up with these lyrics CB ? 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.40  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.39    one month ago

It's trash talk and apparently the song buying youth eat it up. My friend, you are old enough to remember this one: "Man-up!" Gird yourself: I will see you on the other side:

WARNING: GRAPHIC LANGUAGE AND CONNOTATIONS.

Nicki Minaj - Anaconda

Is it not for me? Yes, it's not for me.

Did I remember it?  Yes! (This one is 'dated' now)

Did Youtube take it down for cause?  NO!  (I first saw it on Youtube and since then, NOW!)

NOTE: It was 'music/rap' like this and Taylor Swift's "SHAKE IT OFF!"  That caused the then living Diva, Ms. Aretha Franklin, to call both women and inform them and I paraphrase, 'It don't take all that for your talent to make 'bank' and a legacy.'

I cringe (at moments)—yes! And then I remember that I 'preach' MAX diversity for this country.

My good friend John Russell, this is what "FREEDOM" and "Diversity" looks like when it is allowed to harmlessly 'flow'. . .  .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.41  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  CB @1.1.40    one month ago

I think we as a society and a culture can do better than Cardi B,  but I do agree that Tucker Carlson is carried away about this. It is not the end of western civilization. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.42  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.41    one month ago

We speak diversity that does not harm. I say let Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion, Nicki Minaj, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus - hang out on the rails for those who want to see them on television and stage.

 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.43  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.41    one month ago

Tucker is ugh. The dude is wiping himself on Cardi's efforts.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.44  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.41    one month ago

Tucker Carlson is wiping himself on Cardi's art. And, oh look, who he called up to be his 'baller' in his gritty studio. Candace - the book promoter who married a British politician's son.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.45  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.41    one month ago
I think we as a society and a culture can do better than Cardi B...

Sometimes you surprise me, JB. We certainly can do better. This video, and the thousands and thousands like it, represent a culture of self-indulgence at any cost, if one can call  such a view culture. 

...but I do agree that Tucker Carlson is carried away about this.

He's a pundit, so no surprise there. Tune in to just about any of them and you'll find the same thing.

It is not the end of western civilization.

It pretty much is if we don't change course. I doubt that, fifty years from now, there will be much of western civilization left to recognize. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.46  Tessylo  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.45    one month ago
"It is not the end of western civilization."
You are correct, NO, IT'S NOT

"It pretty much is if we don't change course. I doubt that, fifty years from now, there will be much of western civilization left to recognize."

What absolute bullshit!

If you find these things so perverse, don't watch them.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.47  devangelical  replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.4    one month ago
It takes a warped imagination to acquaint Cardi's performance of WAP with professional wrestling.

... because none of those steroid ballerinas can sing?

 
 
 
zuksam
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1.1.48  zuksam  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.45    one month ago
I doubt that, fifty years from now, there will be much of western civilization left to recognize. 

It's Pop Culture not real culture. We can tell that she learned to dance in the strip club and the green men in bra's is odd and the lyrics are X rated and I wouldn't allow children to listen to it but there's still nothing new here. The Music business had it's last original decade in the 80's and everything since then has been rehashed repackaged and done before. Vanity 6 was singing X rated shit and wearing less and looked a hell of a lot sexier than these fat asses back in the early 80's. The only difference is nobody in the 80's with an ass that big would have wanted their Cellulite to be filmed on national TV and saved forever, they would have hit the gym or wore a skirt.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.49  CB   replied to  zuksam @1.1.48    one month ago

You get a vote for mentioning, Vanity 6! ("You've mad a mess of my dress!")  Albeit, I take it down a .5 value for your attack on big butts and cellulite!  Some men and women like their women 'thick.'  I say leave 'em alone, and enjoy the work put out as it is!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.50  CB   replied to  zuksam @1.1.48    one month ago

Then I know you are aware of the Princely One - PRINCE - one of the unapologetic male figures of the time, who sang this one in the 1980's when music 'blue color' was escaping from suppression:

Head

[Verse 1: Prince and Lisa Coleman]
I remember when I met you, baby You were on your way to be wed   You were such a sexy thing  I loved the way you walked the things you said   I was so nonchalant  I didn't want you to be misled   But I've got to have you, baby  I got to have you in my bed 

You said: "But I'm just a virgin, and I'm
On my way to be wed
But you're such a hunk
So full of spunk" 

[Chorus: Prince]
I'll give you head till you're burning up  Head till you get enough  Head till your love is red  Head, love you till you're dead   
[Verse 2: Prince and Lisa Coleman]You know you're good, girl 
I think you like to go down   You wouldn't have stopped  But uh, I came on your wedding gown   And you said:  "I must confess 
I wanna get undressed and go to bed"  
With that I jammed, you fool  You married me instead   
[Chorus: Prince]Now morning, noon, and night  I give you head till you're burning up   Head till you get enough    Head till your love is red    Head, love you till you're dead   
[Bridge: Prince]Head  Head  Head  Head  Whoa!
[Synthesizer Solo] 
[Chorus: Prince]  Head till you're burning up    Head till you get enough  Head till your love is red  Head, love you till you're dead 
[Outro: Prince]Head    Head   Head   

Nobody messed with Prince's ability to make money off the tune either at the time, do I recall. Albeit, we, the youth were 'scandalized.' And we were looking at each other like: Somebody is going to publicly stop him from singing this on stage! (They did not stop him that I know of!)

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

If it's up, and it Up, then it UP, THEN ITS STUCK!  Alright "Mama." (Chuckles.)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

I looked up the lyrics to this "song". 

They gave the tv audience the PG version.  For example, near the beginning she changes the word "nigga" to "chick"  and the word "pussy" to "kitty".  Don't say she didnt try and observe good decorum , lol. 

the original lyric is here 

Cardi B – Up Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

here is a small sample

I said my face bomb, ass tight
Racks stack up Shaq height
Jewelry on me, flashlight
I been lit since last night

Hit him with that good good
Make a nigga act right
Broke boys don't deserve no pussy
(I know that's right)

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.3.1  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1.3    one month ago

To be clear. I was not borne in the Rap era. Most of it is not more me as a result of it not be an "essential" to my makeup.  What I respect about these women is their "No Chaser" attitude.

In my opinion, the new (female) rappers are as "hardcore" as the males. And as long as it ain't harming anyone, I keep my morals off them-generally!

Oh and it probably ain't Cardi B or Megan Thee Stallion that arranged to modify the words; it is the Censors. (And of course, Sponsors.)

NOTE: I feel you know all this, nevertheless!

 
 
 
bbl-1
PhD Quiet
2  bbl-1    one month ago

Tucker, other than being an overpaid right wing mouth maw is about as relevant as a Sardine being the main meal for a Great White Shark.

The end of civilization as we know it Tucker, would be your friends shouting, "Hang Mike Pence."

 
 
 
Tacos!
PhD Expert
3  Tacos!    one month ago

I guess the reason this song is supposed to be empowering is because it is all about graphic, raunchy sex and the feeling is that that has been ok for male artists, but not for women. I would say that’s mostly a hip hop phenomenon. Not that other genres don’t reference sex, but they typically don’t do so to the degree of vulgarity that you find in hip hop.

I’m also not sure it’s all that accurate to say that women have somehow been unable to do songs like this. And considering the criticism leveled at male artists, I wouldn’t say it has been unanimously ok for them, either.

But even if it were accurate, is this what empowerment looks like? It seems more like a race to the bottom. For years, many critics - and women generally, in particular - have spoken out against rap and hip hop lyrics for their disrespect of women sexually. Apparently the answer is to have women be just as raunchy about themselves as the men are? It’s hard to see someone “winning” here.

As for the apparent objection that it’s two women being sexual together on stage, who cares?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Participates
3.1  MonsterMash  replied to  Tacos! @3    one month ago
As for the apparent objection that it’s two women being sexual together on stage, who cares?

Most parents care that had children watching this disgusting performance. If a parent doesn't care if their child see's it they're a poor excuse for a parent.

 
 
 
Tacos!
PhD Expert
3.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  MonsterMash @3.1    one month ago

Yeah, but I think the news objection is not so much that they’re sexy or even sexual, but that it’s lesbian sexy. Even if that were a problem - and I don’t think it should be - that’s the least of what’s going on.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.1.2  CB   replied to  Tacos! @3.1.1    one month ago

I think what bothers MonsterMash's (Tucker's and "Ms. Thang" Owens) sensitivities is 'gone' is another occasion of prudish (status quo) content on an American platform. These women are unapologetic in there demeanors and in their performances. Almost daring the "Censor That Be" to allow even more!

Tucker and Candace represent those folks who know they are losing something to the bigger picture that the can't get back. There are simply too many 'fronts' opening up at once in culture for them to sufficiently work to cancel.

And yes it was. . . the two vaginas 'CLAP' that has been heard around the world!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  MonsterMash @3.1    one month ago

Why aren't their little darlings in bed instead of watching so-called trash on the TV?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
3.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  MonsterMash @3.1    one month ago

Who the fuck watches the Grammys anyways? I honestly didn’t even know they were on until I saw this.

And maybe the parents should be better about monitoring what their kids are watching, you know, pay attention to them and shit. Oh yeah, and NEVER let them get on the internet.

I am sure the majority of kids who for some. Reason watched the Grammys had a collective shoulder shrug as a reaction. Sorry man, this is rather tame compared to what is on TV, in movies, or one real quick google search away. Gonna have a hard time getting people to freak out about it.

If people got as upset over the violence kids watch on a daily basis, then maybe I might take their bitching about sex a little more seriously.

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
3.1.5  Ender  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.4    one month ago
Who the fuck watches the Grammys anyways?

Not this one. I don't watch any award shows. Odd to me watching people that make millions of dollars patting each other on the back.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
3.1.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ender @3.1.5    one month ago

Same. I’d rather play Lego Jurassic Park with my kids.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
3.1.7  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.6    one month ago
Lego Jurassic Park

I LOVE the Lego video games! We have some for the Xbox 360 and a couple for the Xbox 1. Gosh... we haven't played those in a while. Maybe I need to do that today.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
3.1.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @3.1.7    one month ago

Hehe, at first I had to help them, but now my 5 year old can do the entire game on her own, only needs my help for one thing cuz she hasn’t gotten down tapping A twice in quick succession.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
3.1.9  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.8    one month ago

Aw. I loved ages 2-5. My kids are ornery teenagers, full of hormones, piss and vinegar.

Considering how young yours is... maybe I'm NOT the youngest one on NT? jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
r.t..b...
Masters Participates
3.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @3.1.9    one month ago

Chronologically or attitudinally?

Myself?  Still enjoying the now decades long adventure negotiating the wonders of puberty...living, learning, lazing and laughing all the way. 

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
3.1.11  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.10    one month ago
Chronologically or attitudinally?

Chronologically. 

Attitudinally, I'm still quite a bit younger than my actual age.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
Masters Participates
3.1.12  r.t..b...  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @3.1.11    one month ago

Guessing you are indeed one of the youngsters hereabouts.

A big clue is you still have a sense of humor...sadly the first thing to go for so many...have a good day, kid!

 
 
 
Thomas
Freshman Guide
3.2  Thomas  replied to  Tacos! @3    one month ago

Oh, no. Women be doin this a long time....

Viewer Discretion is definitely advised.  Lil Kim _ Eat my Pussy Right

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Participates
4  MonsterMash    one month ago

Tucker and Candace are right, Cardi B's performance of WAP was a celebration of perversity.

In an interview before the track release, Cardi revealed exactly what the acronym ‘WAP’ stands for. The whole song has sexual connotations, and ‘WAP’ is short for ‘wet ass pussy’.

Cardi said: “The song is really nasty. The song always been nasty.”

I guess I'm not "woke" enough to have enjoyed it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1  CB   replied to  MonsterMash @4    one month ago

Young people watch what they be watchin, as any of us know and can still remember. It is talked about in school ahead of the performance. As all the kids in to it will be sure to record it or just get "educated" on Youtube (as I just did). I am not in to it for myself, but I can appreciate art! And, for whatever reason, this Christian child of God has a taste for horror movies too.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  MonsterMash @4    one month ago

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Good for Cardi! At least she's honest. And I don't think I've ever heard any of her music

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
4.3  Hallux  replied to  MonsterMash @4    one month ago

Everyone be "woke" Mash. Take Candace, Tucker and you; y'all be "woke" enough not to have enjoyed it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5  CB     one month ago

And I thought that time I saw "Megan Thee Stallion" perform on SNL was risqué. There was time when I was young...er, that I blushed a little over learning what, Labelle's sang this:

Labelle - Lady Marmalade (Voulez-Vous Coucher Avec Moi Ce Soir ) • TopPop

And the community-at-large was compromised. Even more so AFTER we learned what the french meant! (You know don't cha?) And then we got see all that Labelle group gyrating and those shoulders and crouch thrusts! Scandalized damn near the whole country! Bald-headed women - stylish? Say it can't be - it just can't be!

 
 
 
Tacos!
PhD Expert
5.1  Tacos!  replied to  CB @5    one month ago

If you say it in French, it’s ok. Apparently.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.1  CB   replied to  Tacos! @5.1    one month ago

If you say it in French, all the boy's will still say: "Mmm-hm!"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @5.1    one month ago

Yeah...but I actually know what that means. Never did like that song

 
 
 
Thomas
Freshman Guide
5.2  Thomas  replied to  CB @5    one month ago

Is that where Space Ace Frahley got his costume?

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Thomas
Freshman Guide
6  Thomas    one month ago

HaHaHaHa. I bet Tucker watched it over and over. Here's a tissue, grandpa.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @6    one month ago

Probably the poster of this 'article' too.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
6.1.1  JaneDoe  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    one month ago

John posted the article and stated this in comment 1.1

I watched as much of this video as I could bear, and I have to say, to me, this stuff is garbage. Not just the dancing and the low lifing, but also the music. It's terrible. 

Why do you think he actually watched it over and over? Don’t you believe him?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JaneDoe @6.1.1    one month ago

Was I talking to you dear?

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
6.1.3  JaneDoe  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    one month ago

Well dear, I have the same right to comment as you do. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JaneDoe @6.1.3    one month ago

Who's stopping you?

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Participates
6.2  evilgenius  replied to  Thomas @6    one month ago
Here's a tissue, grandpa.

It's pretty much all I get from this type of article.... I don't particularly like this song and nor of Cardi B in general, but not for the reasons the Carlson, or the seeder here, make. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
7  Split Personality    one month ago

Apparently Mr. Tucker would not be a fan of Burlesque or Cabaret.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
7.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Split Personality @7    one month ago

Please make sure his fainting couch is nearby when you utter those words!

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
8  Hallux    one month ago

Meh ... if you let your kids watch Tucker's political pornography they'll survive this video.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
Masters Participates
8.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Hallux @8    one month ago

For goodness sake, our grandparents said the exact same thing about Elvis, our parents said the exact same thing about the Sex Pistols, now  some are saying the same thing about yesterday’s Grammys.

What do all these things have in common?

Those that have always felt the need to denigrate popular culture have nothing to add to the conversation other than their fear of the unknown, only fueling their insecurity in their irrelevance.

Like it or not, tune in or tune out, art is always subjective...rather pitiful those that choose to ascribe some self-serving definition to assuage those same restrictions that are invariably, née enviably, out of touch. 

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
8.1.1  Ender  replied to  r.t..b... @8.1    one month ago

Elvis the pelvis? Oh dear.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.1.2  CB   replied to  r.t..b... @8.1    one month ago

They hate Cardi B and Mega T' Stallion for their freedom.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
8.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Hallux @8    one month ago

Apparently Tucker doesn’t realize the internet exists.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.3  CB   replied to  Hallux @8    one month ago

At least Cardi makes it about the money (upfront). 'Pay me - ink the contract - we perform!'  Tucker vomits out self-righteous indignation about a matter that causes some conservatives no harm.

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
9  Ender    one month ago

Oh the beloved Owens...Barf.

She is the one that said Meagan Markle wasn't Black enough...insinuating that she couldn't talk about racism depending on her skin colour...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
10  Thrawn 31    one month ago

What doesn’t Carlson shit his pants about? 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11  CB     one month ago

Tucker Carlson - Candace Owens Reacts To WAP Performance At The GRAMMYs

Okay, here is the video attached to the article image above. Do listen to it. And then for the love things "red/white/blue"  tell me what Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion freedom to make money from a presentation for the Grammys (where no one is harmed) is causing consequences for Tucker and Candance.  Please somebody, explain the issue here.

If Cardi B and Megan T' Stallion together is such a 'car trash' for Tucker and Candace - why do a stop-n-look?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
12  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    one month ago

I have a feeling that both of those young ladies have been kissed a lot.

 
 
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