Biden makes us wonder whose administration it really is

  

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Via:  just-jim-nc-ttth  •  3 weeks ago  •  174 comments

By:   Quin Hillyer (MSN)

Biden makes us wonder whose administration it really is
It almost seems as if White House strategists want the focus of President Joe Biden's first full press conference Thursday to be less the substance of governance and more the question of whether Biden is physically up for the job.

Shouldn't be much of a surprise considering not so long ago history


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It almost seems as if White House strategists want the focus of President Joe Biden's first full press conference Thursday to be less the substance of governance and more the question of whether Biden is physically up for the job.

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They have it set up so that if he does anything more than dodder around and mumble nonsense, the media will play up the presser as a Biden win. But if he does mumble nonsense, some of his minders will still be happy because they will be one step closer to removing Biden's name from the "Biden-Harris administration." There's a sense that when Biden himself referred to his vice president as "President Harris," he was doing nothing more than giving voice to the inevitable.

This speculation about a president's fitness is what happens when the new commander in chief takes almost exactly twice as long as any other president in the past 92 years (and three times longer than most) to hold a solo press conference. It is what happens when, time and again, the president makes verbal and physical missteps in public, even though he appears in public far less frequently than most presidents. It is what happens when he often sounds or looks tired or confused and when he spent most of the previous year's campaign hiding in his basement.

By the way, did you catch that "Biden-Harris administration" verbiage? In a break from all tradition, that is the appellation the White House itself is using. In a stern memo, the White House sent to all federal agencies, that's what agencies were instructed to call it. Funny, we don't remember references to the Roosevelt-Nance administration, the Carter-Mondale administration, or the Obama-Biden administration. The repeated emphasis on the understudy is very odd, unless the expectation is that the understudy will soon be taking the lead.

The public deserves and needs a vigorous president. For that reason, presidents beginning with Ronald Reagan, with almost too graphic information about his mild bout of colon cancer, made a point of providing the public with exhaustive information on all but routine matters relating to the chief executive's health. Former President Donald Trump arguably broke that tradition, but Biden ought to restore it. When a new president is older on his first day in office than any of his 45 predecessors were on their final day, he owes it to the public to reassure them that he is fully fit and functional.

To say so is absolutely not to stoop to the level of a nondoctor's armchair diagnosis, and thus an ignorant and unfair one, that Biden suffers from some type of dementia. And, in truth, there are times Biden clearly has appeared lucid. Yet, there are all sorts of ways short of dementia that the aging process can make someone less than fully capable. Plenty of elderly people do fine for, say, half a day, but then tire and get a bit "foggy." There is nothing dishonorable or inherently embarrassing with losing stamina and focus.

Either way, the public has an absolute right to know if something is wrong. Transparency is vital. If a president is ailing or fading in a way not likely to improve, it is wrong to give the impression that he is in charge. It is even worse if a diminished president is being propped up because his "centrist" image provides a patina of reasonableness to policy initiatives that are anything but moderate. If indeed a radical such as Vice President Kamala Harris is being groomed for a midterm promotion to the presidency, the public ought to know.

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Just Jim NC TttH
Junior Expert
1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    3 weeks ago

Surprised anyone?...........after his insistence that it be called the Biden-Harris administration? Or is he just wanting to share the heat?

Trump supporters, and I are not the topic.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Masters Participates
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

Her ascendance to the Oval Orifice throne is inevitable, as her on the job training is painfully obvious. The only question is when the transition will occur. Biden projects nothing but frail weakness to the world, both in mind and body. He's not fit to be our president.

This sorry state of affairs is not what the confused and brainwashed electorate envisioned. The next year and a half should be very interesting.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
1.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago
"the confused and brainwashed electorate envisioned" 4 more years of he who shall not be mentioned.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

As the crisis explodes on our southern border and North Korea fires missiles into the Sea Of Japan, Biden's handlers put an early cap on him to prepare to answer a few questions. I can only assume that any question on the crisis on the border will be answered with Kamala Harris is in charge of it, ask her.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

So now it's not just a 'crisis' - the 'crisis has exploded'!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

The crisis is exploding with covid infected migrants

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
The crisis is exploding with covid infected migrants

If COVID rates start climbing in Texas, especially around the border area, we all know loons on the left will blame that on Governor Abbott, taking any blame away from "No border" Biden and "Heels" Harris.

It's an inevitable play book we see over and over.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.6  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

That sounds quite nasty, if it were true, but it's not, so . . . . . . .

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
If COVID rates start climbing in Texas, especially around the border area

Please give me a date that I anticipate this event. Paleo-conservatives here have had their hair on fire for almost a month about this 'crisis'. The quarantine for Covid after travel is 7 DAYS.

So WHERE are the rates climbing in Texas bugsy? 

Oh and if it doesn't rise by that date, will y'all STOP posting the LIE about 'covid infected migrants'?

Doubtful since THAT is a playbook that 'we' see over and over. 

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
1.1.9  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @1.1.8    3 weeks ago
Please give me a date that I anticipate this event

where did I say the rates WILL go up, Dulay.

Let me help you...I didn't.

I said "IF"

Kind of a shame I have to explain this to you.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @1.1.9    3 weeks ago
where did I say the rates WILL go up, Dulay.

Where did I say that you said they would bugsy? 

Let me help you...I didn't. 

I asked you where they ARE rising in Texas. 

Kind of a shame I have to explain this to you.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
1.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @1.1.10    3 weeks ago

I really hope you take this education to heart...

Key word very first word 1.1.5..."If"

I never said the ARE..

You're welcome.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.1.12  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @1.1.11    3 weeks ago
I really hope you take this education to heart...

You educate me? Hilarious. 

Key word very first word 1.1.5..."If"

And? 

I never said the ARE..

AGAIN, I never said you did. 

You're welcome.

For what, your superciliousness? 

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
1.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @1.1.12    3 weeks ago
I never said the ARE..
AGAIN, I never said you did. 

Sigh...

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From your 1.1.10

"I asked you where they ARE rising in Texas. "

[Deleted]

 
 
 
MrFrost
Masters Principal
1.1.14  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

The crisis is exploding with covid infected migrants

Fake news. If this were true, Abbott wouldn't have dropped the mask mandate, right? 

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
1.2  dennis smith  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

In reality it is President Kalamity Hairless, VP Joe BIdet and the administration that is the world's laughing stock.

 
 
 
cjcold
PhD Quiet
1.3  cjcold  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

Far right wing fascism is always the topic in one of your seeds.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

President Biden doesn't make me wonder whose administration it really is.  I doubt anyone who voted for him believes otherwise.

We know he is up for the job both mentally and physically.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
2.1  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @2    3 weeks ago
I doubt anyone who voted for him believes otherwise.

Most who voted for "No Border" Biden did so because he is not Trump. Most that voted for him had no idea who he really is or what he stands for.

We are paying for that dearly now.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @2.1    3 weeks ago

I stand by what I said.  

Buzz off bugs

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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3  FLYNAVY1    3 weeks ago

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Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3    3 weeks ago

Time to give up that myth sir.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    3 weeks ago

No myth, truth

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
truth

Let's see that truth...

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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3.1.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  bugsy @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

[ deleted ]

[ The topic is Biden's health not Trump's policies or reputation. ]

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3    3 weeks ago

removed for context

Because Russian oligarchs never gave millions to Biden's family, right? 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
Professor Expert
3.2.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    3 weeks ago

Still pushing the the FSP propaganda are we now Sean........? 

Even the republican senate committee couldn't make the connection...

including the confidential document cited by the Republicans (in the report), and are aware of no information in the committees’ possession showing Hunter Biden had any financial interest in this entity or transaction," they said in a statement.

PolitiFact | Examining Trump claim that Hunter Biden got $3.5 million from wife of Moscow ex-mayor

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
4  Hallux    3 weeks ago

The author would sound more sensible had the insistence been to call it the Harris-Biden Administration. Biden always claimed that both he and she would operate as a team.

That said, fodder time for the detractors of both is on the horizon and especially for Harris now that she has been handed Polk's border machinations.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Hallux @4    3 weeks ago

The reference to Biden-Harris is for political reasons. They want to keep black support for the administration at a peak. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 weeks ago

That is insulting to Black Americans.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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4.1.2  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    3 weeks ago
That is insulting to Black Americans.

When did Black Americans make you their spokesperson?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

Maybe you can do the honors....The implication JR made is that Black voters loyalty is tied to Harris based on her skin color. 

What would that be called?

Do you really think Black Americans vote according to race?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

Black Americans are a voting bloc. Does that surprise you?  White grievance is getting out of hand. 

Vic do you think certain presidents took photo ops of themselves surrounded by evangelical Christian leaders laying hands on them because they wanted spiritual help? lol. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago
Black Americans are a voting bloc.

I see, they vote in total lock-step for something other than policies. Is that what you mean?  You mean LBJ was right?  Just say it out loud.


 White grievance is getting out of hand. 

White grievance allows progressives to get away with calling people racists and dividing the nation. I have none


Vic do you think certain presidents took photo ops of themselves surrounded by evangelical Christian leaders laying hands on them because they wanted spiritual help?

That's an off the wall question. How about two responses?  

I think politicians will try to appeal to as many groups as possible to win elections. In the case of evangelical Christian leaders, they only have one place to go, just like the Teacher's union has one place to go.

Second: Who supports candidates has nothing to do with how I cast a vote.


Lol.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Participates
4.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    3 weeks ago
White grievance 

Did the Dixiecrats figure out that dismissing all accusations of racism as "black grievance" keeps the racists on their side? Or is this an innovation by progressives? 

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Participates
4.1.7  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    3 weeks ago
Maybe you can do the honors....

How about we leave it to each individual American to express their own opinions as they will? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.6    3 weeks ago

It is the latter. Progressives seem to have figured out that most White Americans are conscious of America's past problems with racism & slavery. Many feel a sense of empathy for Black Americans. Progressives took note and in the early 90's we first heard of the "angry white male."  They got away with it and since then the left has used White America as the foil to get all the "others" to vote accordingly. The fact that it has put us on the road to tribalism is written off as collateral damage.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @4.1.7    3 weeks ago
How about we leave it to each individual American to express their own opinions as they will? 

JR just gave one. The implication has been noted whether you like it or not.

 
 
 
Tacos!
PhD Expert
4.1.10  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 weeks ago

I think there is probably some truth to that. More than that, though, I think they are assuming Biden will not run again and so they are trying to give Harris more presence in the public eye so she can run for the big chair in 2024. Name recognition is so important in presidential elections, and Trump has giant bags of it. In spite of VP being an obviously valuable experience for being president, the average American often has a hard time naming the VP, so I think this is all part of a strategy to make her more familiar to the average American.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.11  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    3 weeks ago
Progressives took note and in the early 90's we first heard of the "angry white male." 

I can tell you from experience that 'we' heard FROM 'angry white males' long before the early 90's.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
4.2  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @4    3 weeks ago

I think he wants it Biden- Harris administration to get people used to saying Harris administration, as that is the inevitable outcome in probably a short amount of time...and he knows it.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
4.2.1  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @4.2    3 weeks ago

If it was an 'inevitable outcome', Jill would have said. "no Joe!"

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
4.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @4.2.1    3 weeks ago

No...it's inevitable.

I actually feel bad for the good "doctor", watching her husband deteriorate before the nation's eyes....with the world watching.

It must be painful.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Participates
5  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

It’s pretty clear we are heading to another Woodrow Wilson situation, if we aren’t there already.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    3 weeks ago

If they pull this bait-and-switch before the midterms, it will be disastrous for Dems all up and down the ballot.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
5.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    3 weeks ago

Mixing politics with predictions makes fools of even the wise.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    3 weeks ago
it will be disastrous for Dems all up and down the ballot.

It will be a disaster anyway with all the radical changes being made. Their only hope is to end the filibuster and then pass H.R. 1.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
5.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Yet more partisan 'wisdom' toying with the foolishness of making political predictions.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

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I have seen Biden respond "in the moment" many times in the past few months. He acts like a normal 79 year old. Other nations have had leaders that old, why cant the United States ? 

A lot of people on the right were positive that Biden would humiliate himself at the first presidential debate. It turned out the other guy was the one that humiliated himself.  What is the evidence that Biden cant handle his job? Not right wing media bs speculation, evidence. ?    I dont believe there is any. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

I guess people can't read or don't care

I think bringing up what is specifically off topic should carry a 20 point penalty. I will make the recommendation today.

I have already discussed this with JJ.  You cannot have an article which compares Trump to Biden,

either for health or transparency, then state that Trump is off topic SP

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    3 weeks ago

(deleted)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago

Thread cleaned up

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
7.1.14  Hallux  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.12    3 weeks ago

Do you do windows and ovens?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
Professor Expert
7.1.15  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Hallux @7.1.14    3 weeks ago

Damn Hallux..... did you throw rocks at wasp nests as a kid too?

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
7.1.16  Ender  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @7.1.15    3 weeks ago

I was the stupid kid that thought I could hold a wasp on my hand like a honey bee.

Nope....

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
7.1.17  Hallux  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @7.1.15    3 weeks ago

Just flirting.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
Professor Expert
7.1.18  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Hallux @7.1.17    3 weeks ago

Dude..... You are on your own!

Perrie......  Try not to turn this one into a eunuch..... He seems to be able to do more than fog a mirror!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
9  TᵢG    3 weeks ago

Typical partisan politics.   Yes, Biden is the oldest person to ever get elected as PotUS.   Yes, Biden is a gaffe-machine (always has been).   Yes, Biden at 78 is visibly not as sharp as he was when running as Obama's V.P.  

So naturally partisans will take these facts and spin a tale of Biden being a doddering old man too senile to make competent decisions.    And the partisan supporters will lap this up as if proven fact.

Biden definitely is pushing the envelope and he did look shaky when his campaign started.   But since then he got his footing and demonstrated via the debates that he still has his wits.  There are many individuals I would prefer as PotUS over Biden, but given his predecessor was an irresponsible narcissist, I consider a past-prime PotUS to be a net improvement.

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
9.1  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @9    3 weeks ago

Biden said during his just completed Press Conference that N Korea is America's greatest threat, not China, Russia or Iran.

He has truly gone off the deep end.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
9.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @9.1    3 weeks ago

In the entire press conference and in context of Biden's past statements that North Korean missile tests are business as usual you zero in on a single-word answer: 'yes' to a question about Obama's view of North Korea in 2016 and project that to mean that Biden holds North Korea to be our biggest UNQUALIFIED threat.

This, Dennis, is a perfect example of someone looking desperately to find crumbs that support their position.   It is confirmation bias in its purest form.   It shows that it takes next to nothing for you to jump to 'Biden is a nutcase'.

I suggest you listen objectively, if possible, to the entire news conference and attempt to come to an unbiased understanding of Biden's positions.   I am not asking that you agree, just comprehend.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Expert
9.1.2  Hallux  replied to  dennis smith @9.1    3 weeks ago

Which of those 4 countries is led by someone not playing with a full deck?

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
9.1.3  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.1    3 weeks ago

Spin any way you want. Biden said it today and owns it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
9.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @9.1.3    3 weeks ago

I have noticed that when you cannot rebut an answer you simply call it 'spin' and run away.

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
9.1.5  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

Your refusal to accept what Bidet said IS spin and nothing else.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Principal
9.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  dennis smith @9.1.5    3 weeks ago
Bidet

Childish.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
9.1.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  dennis smith @9.1.5    3 weeks ago
Your refusal to accept what Bidet said IS spin and nothing else.

ok, i'll Bidet, the hand that feeds and anything else that leads to the force equivalent to centrifugal cessation with out hesitation because your dizzying defamation of a man, who actually has character, and not because he is one, for  as TiG wielded your Bitten for spite non ferrous shield, you deflect with too many a defect, that can and will be welded, welded to you ,Trump, and the 'Man' of Steal ( that would be Trump again) as he draws you like a maggot  magnate as you fly in your own face of reason that cannot draw from a Well, thought outta reason, Fallen Spring, sprung into the Torrid Autumn "Season of Whither" as the spin causes you to shiver, me timbers are a hard wood that may be required with a Sponge be cleaned, till you are forced to walk the Plankton, till your Patrick shines brightly, irregardless of the non points, condensed with added water to make instant thought or, something other.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
9.1.8  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @9.1    3 weeks ago
Biden said during his just completed Press Conference that N Korea is America's greatest threat, not China, Russia or Iran.

That is a lie. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
9.2  pat wilson  replied to  TᵢG @9    3 weeks ago
a doddering old man too senile

That beat trump by 7 million votes.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
9.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  pat wilson @9.2    3 weeks ago

... and, according to some, masterminded the only steal of the USA presidency and did not leave a trace of evidence.   

 
 
 
Tacos!
PhD Expert
10  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

They expect Harris to run for president in 2024 and keeping her in the public spotlight as much as possible - partly through this labeling and also by seeming to give her maximum responsibility - is a foundational strategy for a 2024 run. It’s all about name recognition, which will be especially important if Trump runs again.

You wouldn’t think it would even be necessary, but the sad truth is that from generation to generation, the average American has a hard time even naming the VP, much less forming an opinion about them. It’s actually kind of odd that no one has thought to do this before.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
10.1  pat wilson  replied to  Tacos! @10    3 weeks ago
the average American has a hard time even naming the VP, much less forming an opinion about them.

I don't know what "average Americans" you associate with but the ones I know are clearly knowledgable regarding who the VP is and have rational opinions about them.

 
 
 
Tacos!
PhD Expert
10.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  pat wilson @10.1    3 weeks ago

You see it all the time.

Poll shows 41 percent of Americans can’t name U.S. Vice President

Most People Can't Identify 9 Vice Presidents On This Picture — Can You?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Masters Participates
11  Greg Jones    3 weeks ago

General view nationally of Biden's poor excuse of a "presser"

EILIBJ6GD5EDVLWSHC4I2ITUWM.jpg

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
11.1  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @11    3 weeks ago

I only watched part of it.

Still better than the rants of his predecessor.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Freshman Silent
11.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @11.1    3 weeks ago

I saw clips from it, what an embarrassment. He has dementia and everybody but dems know it. It’s pretty sad when one wrongly uses the word “lucid” to describe his first press conference two months in.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
11.1.2  pat wilson  replied to  Gazoo @11.1.1    3 weeks ago
He has dementia

He beat trump by 7 million votes, what does that say about trump ?

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
11.2  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @11    3 weeks ago

Nonsense Greg, just partisan nonsense.  You realize of course that the cartoon was drawn before the presser by a biased person, right?

I watched part of it and have watched the positive parts in the general news stations,

repeated everywhere except Fox which tried to put a negative spin on some edited out takes.

Biden was lucid, sincere, and did not drool or wander off an any tangents.

Refreshing compared to the previous shit show of conspiracies and fantasies.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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11.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @11.2    3 weeks ago
You realize of course that the cartoon was drawn before the presser by a biased person, right?

Yes, of course. So what? But it still was a disaster. He appeared to be wired and juiced

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.2  dennis smith  replied to  Split Personality @11.2    3 weeks ago

He lost focus/train of thought more than once during the presser. Said he was in the Senate for 100 years. None are so blind as those who choose not to see.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.2    3 weeks ago

He stated:

Filibuster. Filibuster. You know, with regard to the filibuster, I believe we should go back to a position on the filibuster that existed just when I came to the United States Senate 120 years ago.

Do you actually think that Biden believes he was the junior senator from Delaware in 1972 (at age 30) 120 years ago?    You think the man believes he is 150 years old?

There are times when common sense is expected to be applied.   This would be one of them.

Ignoring all the answers provided by Biden during this presser and focusing instead on dry humor by Biden as if it were a claim of fact is an illustration of crude dishonest partisan bias.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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11.2.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.3    3 weeks ago
He beat trump by 7 million votes, what does that say about trump

yea but , nun is so blind as one who can't sea a nun Flying a kite with Sally in a Field of Fields where she lies, and lies some more, because it's her habit, and she habitually dresses the part to again Lie, in Fields, and since her habit included a head dress and  aerodynamic 'hood' feature, she was able to catche large amounts of fish, as nun were seen as Chicken, of the Sea, because nun can see nuns are not allowed to have Roosters, to wake them, but, i may have slightly digressed. I don't know, when Biden again demonstrates how a REAL POTUS should act, he is now chastised for his humor, that admittedly, is bad, but after the last guy got US All laughed off the World stage on a regular basis, i'd buy a nun a seeing eye Rooster, to wake her up in the mourning of/for those too blind to see what a perky rooster pecks when presented the opportunity to swim with Chicken of the Sea, while flying high with Bumble Bee, and Sally, in Fields of Dreams, till, stopped short, off  Bass, and tagged while playing hide and seek and yee shall not find another Fish so Deep as the Drum Fish, that she caught while Fly Fishing someones Little Mouth Bass basically, all while a funky Bass Drum beat her like a Rented Mule being an ass kissing sycophant, unable to see a flaw in the Emperors knewly closed off mind Shaft, the Bad muther (Watch youur Big Mouth Bass, B 4 some guy, also known as Richard, around Trees and Tees, gives you a roundhouse barn burning , Hey, where am eye can't see, so i just shut my eyes and don't listen, cause my reaction is predetermined to be a detriment, just like a beating wholehearted bass drum Tugged out at Home by McGraw the Quick Draw artist starving for the neverending spotlight, that illuminated only his narcissistic unenlightened, while flying heavy pants around teen anglers fishing without bait to snag a date they could raisin a fuss a bout their brand new brand ,, Papa got em while sight  searing ahi Tuna, along with a Charlie Hoarse, from sinkin the songs anchored to bear arms with tiny claws, as it's just the weigh the clause was written inn printed letters, Trump was never read, because he preferred Lying about being Orange, ya glad...., well NO, none could be glad accept for that exceptional Fly Fishing Nun that got something more than a morning  mourning     Phish Big Mouth and sSmall, cause you could say that Rosie, that Rosie got it all 

or not

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.5  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.3    3 weeks ago

It was just another gaffe by Biden. He loses his train of thought regularly, forgets where he is, when it is his turn to speak, where he is, and goes on to a different subject, journalists will be allowed entry into the border facilities but not now. 

The list is endless  

 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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11.2.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.5    3 weeks ago
It was just another gaffe by Biden.

Is he first mate on a fishing charter ?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.5    3 weeks ago
It was just another gaffe by Biden.

If you recognize it as a gaffe then why even bring it up?   Biden is known as a gaffe-machine.   

You presented this as if Biden believed he was elected to the senate 120 years ago — part of your campaign that Biden is mentally incompetent.

So which is it?   Is it just another gaffe (the way Biden has always been) or do you think Biden thought he joined the senate 120 years ago?


My read is that it was simply dry humor.   Biden self-deprecates regarding his age and years as a career politician.   Ever notice that or does that not get through the partisan filter?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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11.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.7    3 weeks ago
you recognize it as a gaffe then why even bring it up?

Right.. Because no one ever publicized obvious gaffes by Republicans.  

or do you think Biden thought he joined the senate 120 years ago?

Can that be ruled out? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.2.8    3 weeks ago
Right.. Because no one ever publicized obvious gaffes by Republicans.  

You missed my point.   My point was that since Biden is well known as a gaffe machine, bringing up what is at best a minor, irrelevant gaffe is offering nothing new.   It is a 'so what?' observation.   Biden possibly made a gaffe ... what a surprise.

Can that be ruled out? 

Yeah, Sean, we can rule out the hypothesis that Biden actually thinks he is 150 years old (joined senate 120 years ago as a 30 year old).

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.2.8    3 weeks ago
Can that be ruled out? 

jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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11.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.9    3 weeks ago
My point was that since Biden is well known as a gaffe machine, bringing up what is at best a minor, irrelevant gaffe is offering nothing new.

First off, Biden is a "gaffe machine" because he he's spent 50 years frequently lying about himself, insulting people and using  racist language in public. The protective media excused and whitewashed   his deplorable words by minimizing them as gaffes, rather then calling them what they were.  His inability to communicate basic concepts is is a new development. He was always a very articulate liar, now he confuses his wife and sister.  The idea that his inability to master simple sentences is what gave him his reputation for "gaffes" is disingenuous.  He was always a very coherent liar. Now he struggles communicating basic concepts.

  It is a 'so what?' observation. 

good point. I remember you saying that all of the times Trump was attacked over covfefe. You are nothing if not consistent.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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11.2.12  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.2.11    3 weeks ago
He was always a very coherent liar.

PLEASE .... from a Trumpster, the LIE angle is acutely OBTUSE, and will NEVER BE RIGHT, cause where the hell were you the past damn 5+ years...?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Junior Expert
11.2.13  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.2.8    3 weeks ago
Can that be ruled out? 

I think he was trying to be cute/funny. Therefore Mr. Biden, EPIC FAIL LOL

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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11.2.14  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.2.13    3 weeks ago

i will agree Jim

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.2.15  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.2.13    3 weeks ago
I think he was trying to be cute/funny.

Absolutely, I laughed and he expected others to laugh.

Therefore Mr. Biden, EPIC FAIL LOL

Disagree.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.16  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.2.11    3 weeks ago
I remember you saying that all of the times Trump was attacked over covfefe. You are nothing if not consistent.  

Did you ever once see me criticize Trump for his covfefe?   You have never seen me object to people making a big deal about insignificant factors such as Trump cheating at golf?    Pay attention if you are going to make accusations.   Better still, consider stop making up shit up as you go along.   

First off, Biden is a "gaffe machine" because ...

It does not matter why you think Biden is a gaffe machine.   The point is that he is a gaffe machine so if he did seriously state (rather than dry humor) that he became a senator 120 years ago instead of 49 years ago then that would point to his proneness to gaffe rather than thinking that he truly believes he started as a junior senator 120 years ago.

It is pathetic observing partisans suggest that a quip of starting in the senate 120 years ago shows that Biden has lost mental coherence.   Just shows that some are really stretching to pick those obscure cherries rather than objectively following the evidence.

Finally, you complain about Biden lying.   So do you feel the same about Trump?   After all, who can compete with Trump's two-month con-job after he lost the election?   We have an 800lb lying sack of shit gorilla in the room and you focus on the 100lb chimp.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.2.17  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.16    3 weeks ago
You have never seen me object to people making a big deal about insignificant factors such as Trump cheating at golf? 

Why would Trump cheating at golf be an insignificant factor in assessing fitness for office?  He is accused of being a constant cheat at many things and the golf is just evidence of it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.18  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2.17    3 weeks ago
Why would Trump cheating at golf be an insignificant factor in assessing fitness for office? 

I am not going to repeat this with you.   Why focus on this when Sean and Dennis have delivered plenty of material for you?

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.19  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.9    3 weeks ago

What you call a gaffe, I call incompetence.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.19    3 weeks ago

Then you actually believe that Biden thinks he is 150 years old?    That he is so incompetent that he not only does not know his own age, but he thinks that it is possible for a human being to live to be 150 years of age?

Whatever paradigm you have chosen for reasoning is utterly flawed.    Your assessment is embarrassingly foolish.   


Also, I do not deem this a gaffe.   I have told you repeatedly that I saw his comment as dry humor from a man who is known to make fun of his own age.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
11.2.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.19    3 weeks ago

Oh, come on Dennis. I can go to youtube and find dozens of such gaffs done by Trump and you would just call them a gaff, and rightfully so since gaffs happen.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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11.2.22  sandy-2021492  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.19    3 weeks ago

 
 
 
devangelical
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11.2.23  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.2.22    3 weeks ago

not so difficult to tell who the devoted FOX viewers are these days...

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.24  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.2.21    3 weeks ago

Agreed, everyone makes gaffes. When they are constantly made by one person it becomes more than gaffes.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.25  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.24    3 weeks ago

Biden has been making gaffes his entire career.   So what does that translate to in your mind?   

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.26  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.25    3 weeks ago

To me it means he should have been stopped public speaking years ago.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.27  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.26    3 weeks ago

The point is that making gaffes does not mean the man is incompetent or addled.    I sense zero objectivity in your analysis of Biden.    Looks to me as though you are looking only for bad qualities that you can then extrapolate into something not necessarily true and ignoring all good qualities.

I am confident you will prove me correct as time ensues.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
11.2.28  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.3    3 weeks ago

But after 4 years of insisting that Trump shouldn't be taken literally, their position now is that EVERYTHING Biden says MUST be taken literally and he MUST be held responsible for how they interpret it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.29  TᵢG  replied to  Dulay @11.2.28    3 weeks ago

Some people are perfectly comfortable making utterly foolish claims.   While I understand partisanship, does it not make sense to draw limits on claims so that they stay within the realm of rationality?   

For example, one should not claim:

  • (at this point) that Trump really won the election
  • Trump was the best PotUS
  • Biden thinks he is 150 years old

Claims like these are obviously wrong and anyone making such a claim will appear foolish and will reduce the claimer's credibility (some have already hit zero).

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
11.2.30  igknorantzrulz  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.29    3 weeks ago
(some have already hit zero).

Must be grading on the curve

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
11.2.31  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.29    3 weeks ago
will reduce the claimer's credibility (some have already hit zero).

I think some have already gone into negative numbers.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.32  TᵢG  replied to  igknorantzrulz @11.2.30    3 weeks ago

jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg      Yup, I have seen some pretty foolish commentary lately.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
11.2.33  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.32    3 weeks ago
Yup, I have seen some pretty foolish commentary lately.

Only lately?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.34  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @11.2.33    3 weeks ago

Since Trump lost I have seen bizarre comments from people who I frankly did not think were capable of such levels of nonsense.

But, to your point, of course there are others who have made foolish comments for years.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
11.2.35  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.34    3 weeks ago
Since Trump lost

No he didn't TiG! That's a vicious lie spread by the liberal leftist media in their attempt to subvert our democracy and establish a liberal democrat 1-party system! jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

I have seen bizarre comments from people who I frankly did not think were capable of such levels of nonsense.

As have I. Although, I already knew they were capable of such nonsense. It just comes out more now.

But, to your point, of course there are others who have made foolish comments for years.

It only seems to be getting worse too. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.36  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.34    2 weeks ago

When Trump won the presidential election in 2016 the left made bizarre comments for 4 years. Dems tried the best they could to get rid of Trump (Failed Mueller investigation, two failed impeachments etc)

The POTUS is always fair game and the opposing party holds them responsible for what happens. Unfortunately both parties only hold them responsible for the things that are not done or don't go well and not the good things. 

BOTH parties are equally responsible for failing to work together and compromise.  

 
 
 
JBB
PhD Principal
11.2.37  JBB  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.36    2 weeks ago

False equivalencies are false on their faces. Both sides are not equally good or bad...

256

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.38  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.36    2 weeks ago
When Trump won the presidential election in 2016 the left made bizarre comments for 4 years. Dems tried the best they could to get rid of Trump (Failed Mueller investigation, two failed impeachments etc)

'The left'?   The entire 'left'?   You should know that there are all sorts of people on 'the left' with very different views.   There is no single 'the left' view.

Yes, there are people on 'the left' who made bizarre comments about Trump.   So what?   Are you going to try to argue 'two wrongs make a right' or 'they did it first'?   

I hope not.

The POTUS is always fair game and the opposing party holds them responsible for what happens. Unfortunately both parties only hold them responsible for the things that are not done or don't go well and not the good things. 

Sure, the PotUS is fair game.   But if one is to be productive / valuable one should make critical remarks based on fact.   Inventing and/or exaggerating accomplishes nothing good and makes the exaggerator look foolish and basically kills their credibility.

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.39  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.38    2 weeks ago

The Dems should have heeded your "advice" for the years Trump was POTUS but did not.

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.40  dennis smith  replied to  JBB @11.2.37    2 weeks ago

Nonsense, we are talking about American politicians not NAZI Germany

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.41  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.39    2 weeks ago
The Dems should have heeded your "advice" for the years Trump was POTUS but did not.

So you are making the childish argument that 'they did it first'.    

Take responsibility for your own actions.   You are justified to criticize the Ds for their partisan failures but then to applaud similar actions by the Rs is hypocritical.

It is never right to make dishonest, non-factual, exaggerated claims to attack others.    Right?

 
 
 
dennis smith
Senior Silent
11.2.42  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @11.2.41    2 weeks ago

The Dems did it by trying to get Trump out of office (Mueller investigation - fail, impeachment #1  - fail,  then Impeachment #2 fail.) 

The Repubs are not trying to get Biden out of office but rather want him to be transparent/accountable about what is happening at the southern border.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.2.43  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.42    2 weeks ago
The Repubs are not trying to get Biden out of office but rather want him to be transparent/accountable about what is happening at the southern border.

Is that all the Rs want Dennis?   Well that seems like a very reasonable request.   Clearly the Rs, as you envision reality, are being honest, responsible citizens who simply want fair, humane treatment for all.  So, in your mind, that is the extent of the R criticism of Biden?

Now, here is a glimpse at reality.   We have people attacking Biden as being senile / cognitively impaired (to the point of incompetence), serial liar, womanizer, feckless wimp doing only what others want him to do, etc.    After all, just observe this seed.   Observe other seeds that attacked Biden's press conference by literally nit-picking (the "yes" answer) and flat out making shit up ('deer in headlights, confused, ...').

Seems to me your comments downplay bad by Rs and exaggerate bad by Ds.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
12  Kathleen    3 weeks ago

I get the impression that Biden does not care to compromise. He is going to do what he wants whether the Republicans agree or not. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
12.1  Split Personality  replied to  Kathleen @12    3 weeks ago

Yet he keeps inviting the Republican Senators to the WH.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
12.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Split Personality @12.1    3 weeks ago

Probably to tell them what he is going to do.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
12.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @12.1    3 weeks ago

kudos to joe for doing that, but if anything the democrats should've learned from the last 12 years is to go around the obstructionists if they can't go thru them and their dumb ass foot dragging. republicans can either participate in the process or get the fuck out of the way.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @12.1.2    3 weeks ago

"kudos to joe for doing that, but if anything the democrats should've learned from the last 12 years is to go around the obstructionists if they can't go thru them and their dumb ass foot dragging. republicans can either participate in the process or get the fuck out of the way."

Yeah, those dinosaur republicans need to get the fuck out of the way.  They'll never approve anything he proposes so fuck them!

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Principal
12.1.4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @12.1.3    3 weeks ago
Yeah, those dinosaur republicans need to get the fuck out of the way.  They'll never approve anything he proposes so fuck them!

"Yeah, those dinosaur democrats need to get the fuck out of the way.  They'll never approve anything he proposes so fuck them!"

Tessylo, I hate to bring this up from what We went thru not long ago.

But IMO: We just went thru the reverse of your statement last term with trump being in charge. 

trump dissed the dems and took almost full power over both the dems and most of the reps. trump was on his way to controlling the country with HIS one sided train of thought and power.  

When ONE man has too much power, the nation at large pays a price and our constitutional republic takes  a blow. As We The People lose our power over to ONE MAN's ideas and control.  Biden is one man just as trump was one man,

Personally I do not want ONE MAN to have all of or even TOO much power. America does Not have a King and Thank GOD we don't follow and give one person too much power, That is WHY we have a constitution to begin with. 

ONE man or woman . 

NO THANK YOU ! 

Smiles and peace Tessylo. jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

Remember I voted for President Biden. I just don't plan on him being the ONE man in power over all of us either. I want compromise because I think America is stronger when we share power and our future as a nation.

I know a pipe dream but in the past at least on some issues and solutions to the nations problems they did work together and accomplish miraculous things, Going to the moon, building the space station. Entering and exiting wars even.

Sadly it's been awhile though since our elected officials worked together much at all since then it has been one party has power and drags the other party alone unwillingly, until the party in control over the nation losses power because the other side is so pissed they vote more, and back and forth America goes with real little responsible forward movement as the world progresses around us. 

I do not see how our current way of governing WE The People is better than a share power nation is or would be if we really did share power.

I do see that ONE MAN having too much power over the masses is like a dictatorship though. No matter who that ONE Person is. 

Just my opinion.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @12.1.4    2 weeks ago

I'm glad this is three days ago and I never saw this until now.

I have nothing to say!

I haven't read  your post because I don't want to argue with you.

Later!

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Principal
12.1.6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @12.1.5    2 weeks ago
I haven't read  your post because I don't want to argue with you.    Later!

Your choice, I won't waste my time writing to you again. I have better things to do than write long posts to people who wont read them anyway.

Later 

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
12.2  Texan1211  replied to  Kathleen @12    3 weeks ago

just like he did with the covid relief bill, invite the GOP over to tell them what he is going to do.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
12.2.1  Kathleen  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2    3 weeks ago

I wrote mine then just saw yours... lol

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
12.2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2    3 weeks ago
ust like he did with the covid relief bill, invite the GOP over to tell them what he is going to do.

don't ya just hate when senile old geezers learn from previous mistakes

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
12.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @12.2.2    3 weeks ago

I just want the lies about unity to stop.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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12.2.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.3    3 weeks ago
I just want the lies about unity to stop.

THEY DID, WHEN 45 EXITED

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
12.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @12.2.4    3 weeks ago

sure they did, if one choose to ignore reality.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
12.2.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.3    3 weeks ago

I seem to recall Obama and Da Dems bending over backwards so as the Repubs could F them frontwards, sideways, upside down, and in reverse, due to LexDysia and or such, with Obama Care. You know, the plan where all sorts of concessions were made to include the GOP, and they not a one, wound up voting for it. Biden LEARNED, and now he's teaching, cause the GOP is dying, not just bleachin, and after Trump's over frickn reachin, a reach around would be owed, ya knowed. Cause the way Obama WAS DENIED his Supreme Court Choice, with what, 9 months remaining in his term, all while six weeks were a plenty for the Good Ole Boys to shove them some good old home cooking Conservative Judges through and such, but, WTH, hypocrisy is a foreign word from a more foreign language, the R's don't speak  of.

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
12.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @12.2.6    3 weeks ago

aw still all pissed off about Obama, eh?

sounds productive!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
12.2.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.7    3 weeks ago

Whats a matta Tex ?  Don't like when Da Dems play the same kinda hardball the gop has been duping them D's with for far too long ? Cause i'd say the ole"geezer" is bashin the R's right out of his way each and every day, and finally !

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
12.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @12.2.8    3 weeks ago

I don't give a fuck what the Democrats do. 

I figure they'll fuck it up like they did when Obama won, and they promptly lost the House.

Good times ahead.

Enjoy this while you still can.

It ain't going to last.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
12.2.10  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.9    3 weeks ago
Enjoy this while you still can. It ain't going to last.

what i don't see enduring in the same mannerism, is the GOP, after T R, U M P

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
12.2.11  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.9    3 weeks ago
It ain't going to last.

That would likely be the case if not for the Trump factor.   As long as Trump holds sufficient sycophants to serve as a spoiler, the R party will be hobbled and will remain as the minority party.   Even when the R party is aligned behind a single leader, it takes a lot to win elections.   Trump can so easily ruin the R party (for the next few election cycles).   

What should be done is to defeat the Trump sycophants and align the party behind an individual who supports the policies of Trump which got him elected in 2016 but who is a decent human being with the charisma and aptitude to lead this nation.

Left alone, the Trump sycophants will split the party and both sides of the split will lose.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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12.2.12  evilgenius  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.11    3 weeks ago

Right now with the Trump loss Trumpublicans are turning on each other. Along with the threats of Trump vengeance on those who voted against him on impeachment. It's not looking great for Republican mid-term elections. I think people like Ron Johnson might actually get primaried by someone a bit more moderate this time around.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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12.2.13  r.t..b...  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.11    3 weeks ago

Candidates will need to satisfy the trump base (emphasis on base) in any primary and will need to pivot in a drastic way to win in the general.

There are of course many districts that are completely safe to run with the trump train, but in contested districts and senate races, that train has derailed...30%-35% support, no matter how vocal, will equate to victory. 

Moderates and independents and turn-out determine elections...Georgia being the perfect example. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
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12.2.14  evilgenius  replied to  r.t..b... @12.2.13    3 weeks ago
Candidates will need to satisfy the trump base (emphasis on base) in any primary and will need to pivot in a drastic way to win in the general.

I think the party is fractured that plan may not work any more. There are enough people pissed off at the base for them to go unnoticed in the primaries. Of course I could be wrong, but there is a reason Trump lost. Going more Trumpian might not be a great selling point in the short term.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @12.2.10    3 weeks ago

yeah, yeah, yeah, the EVIL GOP IS DEAD FOR SURE THIS TIME!

LMAO!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.11    3 weeks ago

we will see what happens in the midterms.

I'm betting Democrats lose the House and probably the Senate.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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12.2.17  r.t..b...  replied to  evilgenius @12.2.14    3 weeks ago

The problem goes all the way to the precinct level...the deep, dark place on the fringes that has the power to define policy and put forth candidates. 
I hope you are correct, but it may take an election cycle or two for the cleansing to be complete. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.2.18  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.16    3 weeks ago

As it stands right now, I do not see that happening.   But over the next 18+ months the Ds certainly could take actions that would rally the opposition.   Time will tell.

Bottom line, Trump is a parasite on the R party.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.18    3 weeks ago

history certainly tells us differently.

the incumbent President's party almost always loses seats, and the Democrats' majority is just too small to be able to afford any losses.

5 House seats and 1 Senate seat us all it takes.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.19    3 weeks ago

As noted, reasonable logic given a healthy R party;  not a party hobbled by a Trump parasite.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.21  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.20    3 weeks ago

gee, even with the party hobbled by Trump. the Gop managed to win House seats.

So many always are quick to declare the GOP dead, but if that us so. Democrats should have a much larger majority.

democrats should control more governor seats and more state legislatures.

there is a reason they don't.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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12.2.22  sandy-2021492  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.21    3 weeks ago

Yes, but moderate Republicans and independents got to see how Trump-supporting Republican legislators acted after the election.  Those who voted to overturn in the wake of the last election will be remembered at the next one.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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12.2.23  evilgenius  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.21    3 weeks ago

And 29 states are so happy about it they are restricting voting access.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.24  Texan1211  replied to  sandy-2021492 @12.2.22    3 weeks ago

we will see. I am still betting the Dems lose at least one part of Congress.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.25  Texan1211  replied to  evilgenius @12.2.23    3 weeks ago

tell me who is restricted

 
 
 
dennis smith
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12.2.26  dennis smith  replied to  igknorantzrulz @12.2.2    3 weeks ago

Admitting that Biden is a senile. Thanks you for your honesty

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.2.27  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.21    3 weeks ago
gee, even with the party hobbled by Trump. the Gop managed to win House seats.

Trump did the nation a favor by showing his character in an unmistakable fashion when he engaged in a two-month con job.   It proved that he has the psychology of an incredibly poor loser and illustrated just how far he will go with his lies (seems to be no limit).   It also illustrated that Trump only cares about Trump and is willing to exploit his office and his sycophants to get what he wants.   Finally, it showed that Trump would have stolen the election if it were possible to do so.   In short, it showed Trump to be a despicable human being who should never be PotUS.

Factor that into the equation.   Post the election the R party is split;  that was not the case prior to the election ... it was mostly aligned with Trump.   Right now the R party is divided and until that is corrected it is at a disadvantage.

So many always are quick to declare the GOP dead, but if that us so. Democrats should have a much larger majority.

Well if you have read my comments, I have not declared the GOP dead.   I have predicted that it will be a minority party for the next few election cycles unless it can rid itself of the Trump parasite (and then get healthy from the lingering effects of the infection).

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.2.28  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.27    3 weeks ago

we will see, but I am still betting Democrats lose their majority.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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12.2.29  igknorantzrulz  replied to  dennis smith @12.2.26    3 weeks ago
Admitting that Biden is a senile.

maybe we could all pitch in and get him a seeinacrossdaaisle dawg to hunt width... 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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12.2.30  igknorantzrulz  replied to  TᵢG @12.2.20    3 weeks ago

he mite tick too many off, as he is all too capable of getting under more than just the Dermatology of the Dems, as he is a paradoxical consistent inconsistency, that more and more of less, are ending up beginning to see, how blind won can be when lost and despised becomes the propagandist that has deprived, and obviously left too many pist, all whipped, by toes tip toeing on the margarines lightly assaulted, as was our Capital, and all as mashed were seen our LEO's , as the king of the LYING while more and more ain't buying the presented propaganda purp[osely proposed to distort , via the purveyor of prophesied unproportioned phallacy symbols beat by the drumming Little Boy who "Blew, cause he needed the Money!" and his ego stroked, fire stoked, and Knows Coked till he bleeds Pepsi, like a Foxy Fox "news" anchor, losing blood and treasure to bare horseback riding chests in the community who took a Chance

 
 
 
Kathleen
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12.2.31  Kathleen  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.3    3 weeks ago

True, he can never deliver that promise. He has no intentions to either. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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13  Greg Jones    3 weeks ago
 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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14  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

It isn’t trumps, and that is what I was voting for, or against. However you wanna look at it.

 
 
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