Into the belly of the beast
Gavin Newsom is facing a Sept. 14 special election that could make him just the third state governor in U.S. history to be removed from office through a recall. His leading opponent is Laurence Allen Elder, an American conservative talk radio host, author, politician and attorney who hosts The Larry Elder Show. What was once a close race has more recently become a demonstration of the behind-the-scenes power base that democrats have created in California.
First of all there is the nature of the campaign itself. Larry Elder has talked about policy changes, most notably the freedom of parents, especially minority parents, to send their children to the school of their choice. The record of Gavin Newsom as governor would normally be the main issue, since it is after all a recall election. However the Newsom campaign has focused on personal attacks against Elder. Most notable was the California professor campaigning for Newsom, who hurled a truly racist attack at Elder last Monday, calling him “a Black face on White supremacy.”
A spokeswoman for the Elder campaign accused Newsom of “lashing out” at the Republican candidate because he realizes that his political career is on the line.
“Gavin Newsom is running scared. He cannot defend his horrendous record on crime, homelessness, the rising cost of living, water shortages, uncontrollable wildfires, and tyrannical COVID lockdowns,” spokeswoman Ying Ma said in an email. “Larry believes in liberty, personal responsibility, private enterprise, and the ingenuity of the people of California, not Newsom’s repressive edicts or the cronyism of his allies.”
The CA deep state empire is striking back. The Teacher's Union and the Public Sector Union and Hollywood are sending in the money fueling the Newsom campaign:
"Newsom’s anti-recall campaign raked in more money in its first five months — $54 million — than the $50.2 million his 2018 gubernatorial campaign raised over four years.
Most of the money came in six- or seven-figure donations from longtime Democratic financial backers, including government employee and trade unions, as well as people and interest groups that stand to gain from a relationship with California’s governor. Even allies of the governor have expressed concern about the amount of money flooding in. The California Teachers Assn., which has clashed with charter school advocates for years, gave $1.8 million. The Service Employees International Union and its local affiliates, which together represent about 700,000 members, including government employees, donated a combined $5.5 million to Newsom’s anti-recall campaign. Others in the $1-million-and-up club include associations representing California Realtors, home builders and Democratic governors.
Newsom’s anti-recall committee has raised tens of millions of dollars more than the committee pushing for him to be removed, as well as the top Republicans hoping to replace him. Several of those candidates have alleged that the wellspring of donations in support of the governor is evidence that he is beholden to unions and Sacramento’s special interests.
Assemblyman Kevin Kiley (R-Rocklin) accused Newsom of closing public schools last academic year under pressure from the California Teachers Assn. and other teachers unions despite guidance from federal health officials that it wasn’t necessary.
“Teachers unions just funneled Gavin Newsom another $2.1 million,” Kiley tweeted in late July. “It’s unclear if this is a bonus payment for last year’s shutdown or prepayment for the one to come.”
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-24/newsom-donors-anti-california-recall
Democratic politicians & officials, including the vice president, have gone to California in recent weeks to campaign for Newsom. The president is also expected to join the bandwagon before the recall vote in about 5 days. Even Barack Obama has urged Californians to reject the recall. Yesterday he told California voters: "Your vote could be the difference between protecting our kids and putting them at risk, helping Californians recover or taking us backwards."
Then there is this:
"H undreds of ballots for California Gov. Gavin Newsom's recall election, drugs and a loaded gun were found last week in a vehicle where a felon was passed out inside, authorities said Monday.
Police responded to a call of a man passed out in a vehicle in a 7-Eleven parking lot in Torrance on Aug. 16, the Torrance Police Department said ."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hundreds-of-california-recall-ballots-drugs-loaded-gun-found-in-passed-out-felon-e2-80-99s-car-police/ar-AANGDNB
Which is a reminder of California's lingering problem with voting.
From 2019:
"California officials still can’t say whether non-citizens voted in the June 2018 primary because a confusing government questionnaire about eligibility was created in a way that prevents a direct answer on citizenship.
The snag comes from a voter eligibility questionnaire that lumps five separate characteristics, such as age and citizenship status, into one prompt that people see at the Department of Motor Vehicles when they try to get or renew a driver’s license.
Investigators can see that people marked themselves as ineligible to vote or declined to answer eligibility questions, but they can’t tell why.
“We can’t assume why they declined to answer eligibility questions or why they said they were not eligible,” the Secretary of State’s Office wrote in an internal memo on Oct. 8, 2018.
That email and other documents The Sacramento Bee obtained through the Public Records Act shed light on why the Secretary of State has been unable to say clearly whether non-citizens voted last year. The Bee filed a legal complaint for the records when the Secretary of State initially withheld most of them."
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article223886630.html
Nothing has changed.
Thus, in the closing weeks of this election, Larry Elder has gone from a position of "too close to call" to the unenviable position of "a very tough reach." The California deep state has saved Newsom and the people of California have been stifled once again.
That's how it's done in California.
What was Rudy Giuliani doing out there?
You tell me?
Sounds like Elder is losing/a loser. It must be rigged!
"The CA deep state empire is striking back."
Because of the Deep State! Correction, "The Deep State Empire"
Is that an upcoming Star Wars flick?
Now playing in California!
Newsom will prevail because he is a good governor!
The gop is already working to delegitimize its recall.
They are losing badly so they must blame teachers.
We really must laugh at how idiotic the damn gop is.
Only if one is a progressive, a felon or homeless. Even the illegal migrants who are able to vote for him wouldn't like him if they only knew that Newsom is a big part of the reason why they are living in dangerous neighborhoods.
Yet, California has a huge budget SURPLUS!
That is because Democrats believe in math.
Elder is way out of touch with the CA voters.
Much like Trump being way out in right field...
It isn't very easy to lose by eight million votes.
Democrats control the House, Senate and Presidency. Why, if they believe in Math, are they proposing to borrow trillions of dollars?
It isn't very easy to lose by eight million votes.
So you don't understand math then. Of course it is, as the country grows and the numbers of voters increase, the difference in vote totals will also increase. A four point loss is pretty run of the mill.
Mondale losing by 17 million votes and 18 percentage points is hard to do.
Mondale was in 1984. Nearly 40 years ago...
The gop is losing votes because the gop is a party of old white people who are dying off...
Even Texas and Georgia are turning blue now!
After Desantis Florida will be turning blue too.
No shit. That's why losing by 18 million votes is so impressive. Less than 100 million people voted.
fter Desantis Florida will be turning blue too.
sure. Sure. Dems have only been saying that for 20 years.
The Republicans in the Senate havent represented the majority of the American people in 25 years.
That's not the kind of enlightened comment I've come to expect from you Vic. /s
Which total ZERO.
PROVE IT!
For the same reason that the GOP did so.
Talk about living in the past!
DeathSantis.
That's hilarious coming from you Vic.
Tell you what, I'll support my comments when you start supporting your own. 'Our readers' know that won't be happening any time soon.
I didn't think so
Lol ... Math is fun, so how about this math?
California has a state and local unfunded liability approaching 2 Trillion dollars. Yep, that's Trillion with a T.
For the math challenged that means California edges closer and closer to a complete financial meltdown each year. And Governor dimbulb has just accelerated that inevitability during his tenure. As revenue due to leaving taxpayers and businesses continues to spiral downward under his watch due to raised taxes and costs. Elect him again so can accelerate your demise even faster ......
In other words it's like holding a bank account with money in it on one side and having an enormous pile of debt on the other.
Got it!
Gee, when I went to school, they taught us how Congress works and who each Senator represents.
Funny, don't ever recall ever having a teacher tell me that Senators are supposed to represent the majority of Americans.
Can you point it out in statute for me?
Thanks for the confirmation though I never expected you to start supporting your own comments.
Wow Sparty, your source is all over the place.
First of all, it's not about the Newsome Administration [the topic of the seed].
Secondly, it cites links and data from 2017.
Thirdly, it includes LOCAL debt, which any idiot knows isn't controlled or owed by the STATE and therefore should NOT and is NOT included in the STATE 'debt'.
The point is made .... as inconvenient as that is to your preferred narrative.
Not your problem so don't worry about it.
So what? Prove it wrong or quit wasting my time.
I clearly stated state and local liability. Your "opinion" on this matter is noted and completely meaningless. State and local unfunded pension liabilities for example are intricately intertwined in most states since much of the local funding comes from the state.
Yeah more like an underwater mortgage.
A massive debt that the debtor has no chance to repay if it comes due prematurely.
Even if they manage to liquidate all assets.
What 'point' Sparty? That you think that unrelated history is relevant? If so, your point is moot.
Is it your posit that your misrepresentation should go unchallenged?
I'll need to see a special snowflake certificate.
It's WORSE than wrong Sparty, it's IRRELEVANT to the CURRENT discussion.
Yes you did, which begs the question; Why bother posting an irrelevant link?
Your opinion of my opinion is completely meaningless.
Obfuscating argle-bargle.
LOCAL deficit/surplus is NOT STATE deficit/surplus.
Your relevancy analysis is irrelevant
Nah, my position is NTers position. Off topic decisions are the seeder's only and since you didn't seed this article ...... don't worry about it.
Again, you relevancy analysis is seriously flawed and therefore irrelevant.
So why question it?
See above ... twice
Pee Wee Herrman gambit noted .... sad as it is .....
Nah, when you get more than a sophomoric understanding of how state and local funding works for things like school districts and road commissions hit me back. Until then you are still just wasting my time.
Your analysis of my analysis is obtuse.
Where did I say anything about 'off topic' Sparty?
Oh and FYI, a mod can rule it off topic too. Try to keep up.
Is it your posit that California's 2017 budget data is relevant to it's 2021 budget data? If so, please show me HOW.
Ditto.
Candy Crush Saga calling?
Yawn ..... you're shtick is boring me. Not shockingly i still disagree with absolutely everything you've said here.
But you have a nice day now ya hear!
Per the author/seeder!
Nope, a mod can see an off topic comment and delete it per their own judgement.
You can disagree with facts all you want, they're STILL facts.
Your link is outdated and irrelevant. Own it.
Larry Elder is a far right extremist. He has fallen behind in the polls because the people of California realized he was a candidate and could potentially win, albeit with 25% of the vote.
That happens to be the recall system created by CA progressives. One that they will most likely change right after this farce ends.
It was not Democrats forced this farcical recall.
How do you know who signed the petition?
I'm surprised you didn't seed an article about left wing racism after a white woman in a gorilla mask threw an egg at Elder yesterday. That would be the consistent thing to do, given we know what would have happened had had the black candidate been a Democrat.
That doesn't make sense. No surprise here.
The gop doesn't appeal to the voters today.
I read about that yesterday too. SMH
I can't help it if you are blind to your own bias.
You don't seem to grasp history, or numbers.
The gop won the presidency and the popular vote only once since 1988. Trump lost the popular vote by eight million votes. So, who here does not grasp history or even basic math?
If the gop hopes to win they need more votes.
The gop won the presidency and the popular vote only once since 1988
They've won the Presidency numerous times since then, and as recently as 2016 were in the strongest position nationally that they've been in about a century. They don't win every election. Sometimes they control Congress, sometimes they don't. Just like the Democrats.
That's how politics work, if you pay attention. They will almost certainly control the House and probably the Senate after the next election. Will you then claim "the Democrats don't appeal to the voters today?" after the next narrow Democratic loss?
rump lost the popular vote by eight million votes. So, who here does not grasp history or even basic math?
Well you, if you think losing an election by 4 points is noteworthy.
All conservatives do anymore is complain, complain, and whine. And try to cut down on minority voting.
You butthurt.
An egg you say, wow ... up here conservatives are throwing rocks at liberals.
ou butthurt.
Just amused at your hypocrisy. Do you even remember how shrilly you screamed racism every time Obama was criticized?
I can't even imagine how many posts there would have been condemning all Republicans as racists had a white person wearing a gorilla mask thrown an egg at Obama. But since the victim was a Republican....
Were they dressed in blackface throwing rocks? Or throwing rocks at the liberal who wears blackface? Not sure about the intricacies of Canadian politics.
Just a sampling of what they will do to a black Conservative
I know. It’s sad, petty and disgusting!
That's the way they've made it. You didn't see any cops there and outside of Elder's own representatives, one of whom was assaulted, nobody from the community dares to stand up to them.
I bet the GOP will be appealing enough to voters to regain the majority next year.
Just your 'normal' anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-immigrant boyz.
Will you be a dear and let us all know when the popular vote is relevant in Presidential elections, and when overall votes for Congress are important?
Only in bigger urban areas,
You know ..... liberal shit-holes like San Fran and Baltimore.
Those around Elder are not his representatives Vic. They are members of the Venice Neighborhood Council and residents were pissed off that they brought Elder into THEIR neighborhood.
They don't like blacks in their neighborhood?
Well since the video shows that many of those pissed off at the Venice Neighborhood Council are black, I doubt it Tex.
So residents are pissed at their own reps.
Probably some of that infamous liberal logic again.
Elder isn't their rep. So why are folks saying he is?
I doubt very much that skin color had anything to do with it. It was almost certainly in response to Elder's crazy conspiracy theories and deadly proclamation that he would end Covid safety protocols in CA if elected. That and his tired useless conservative Republican ideology he spouts on his right wing radio show.
Sure.
Yes.
So neocons all support each their Representatives? That's seems contrary to a plethora of State Republican Party Committees that have censured their Congressman and Senators.
Oh, nice deflection.
Hey, why don't you open a seed about that since THAT is what you wish to talk about.
You know, instead of deflecting here.
What's deflective about "Yes" Tex?
Your post mentioned liberals being pissed at their reps. So did I.
Goose gander...
Here, I'll even type slow.
You deflected when you stated THIS:
The topic has nothing to do with that bullshit, so YES, THAT is a deflection.
Always glad to help out and explain the most mundane things.
/s
My comment has just as much to do with the topic as yours:
Which was a direct reply to your post claiming that the residents were pissed at their reps.
Are their reps Republicans? No, then your comment isn;t on topic.
Mostly it is white liberals who don't like it. Venice is only made up of 5 percent black, so it is likely the white liberals feel that is enough (translation....too many).
As was mine.
Actually, YES, some of them are.
You replied to yourself? Weird shit.
Which ones?
"No" John, you keep pushing the narrative that people of color can't figure out how to get a photo I D.
Go look it up Tex, you seem to have plenty of time on your hands. I'm busy reading the DOJ filing against Texas. So far it's a humdinger...
Strawman fallacy.
Yawn, just more boring crap.
Californians deserve what they get if they reelect that dimbulb.
Last person out of California .... don't forget to turn out the lights .... that is if the power hasn't already been disconnected for lack of payment ....
It's not an election, it's a recall. What were you saying about dimbulbs ?
It's both
So, if the recall is successful, Californians won't be electing a new governor on that same ballot?
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No you see it's not a Recall Election, it's a Recall nana nana boo boo.
Get recalled and stick your head in dog poo
only if Newsome loses the recall
It's pointless deal with such childish mentality. Have a nice day.
Surrender accepted, you have a wonderful day as well and a pleasant tomorrow
When the last right wing religious conservative bigot leaves CA it will be a great day and we'll still have 40 million residents with an annual GDP larger than most countries including Russia. Yes, we have fires and earthquakes, but we also have beautiful coastlines, majestic mountains, cities and communities who embrace progress and progressive ideals, equality, innovation, entrepreneur's, one third of the entire nations produce, tech industries and a thriving tourism industry. Just because some backwater hillbilly red States that have to rely on the federal government just to survive are jealous, that won't be turning off our lights as CA shifts to renewable energy sources and has the money to rebuild the 70+ year old power grid and infrastructure.
You mean the power grid that has rolling blackouts for years?
And the progressive policies that have resulted in a huge homeless population there?
The roaring economy is only good for the very rich, because if you don't make at least $150k per year, you will never afford a house in the Bay Area or LA area.
The sooner that happens the better. The sooner you get that shit-hole to yourselves, the sooner it crashes and burns completely.
And don't come to the Fed to be bailed out when it happens. No no no ..... simmer in your own juices and figure it out for yourselves.
It will be fun watching all those liberal pensioners revolting when their pension checks bounce ..... ah yes .... good times to look forward to .... when the left coast sanctimonious pricks get their comeuppance.
It's so great in California people and businesses are leaving in droves.
Yeah, come out to the coast, have a few laughs .....
Renewable energy sources? Good luck with that. Solar works half a 24 hour cycle and when its cloudy output is diminished. Wind only puts out when,,,,,,,it’s windy. Hydro, look at lake mead levels. Combine all three and its not nearly enough to power california.
You may want to research these new fangled thingies called batteries.
" In 2018, renewable energy accounted for 32.35% 2 of all of California's in-state energy generation. This was made up by 3.03% biomass, 5.92% geothermal, 2.18% small-scale hydropower, 13.99% solar, and 7.23% wind energy."
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Nearly one third of our in-State produced energy is already from renewable sources and that is growing daily. When the useless climate change denying dipshits are choking on fumes and poisoned ground water while their homes flood, again, due to increase hurricanes in their Red States and begging to buy power from CA in a decade or two we'll be sure to remind them that they dug their own graves.
What are the dipshits going to do when they suddenly realize they are 2/3 short of supplying their energy needs? Or maybe those dipshits are like dr jill (lol) and fractions are nothing but jumbled numbers that mean nothing? Talk about selling electricity to other states while still having rolling blackouts is fools talk.
I take it you didn't read the part where I said renewable energy production and investment in CA is "growing daily". We're already past the 1/3 mark, soon it will be 1/2 and not too far from that we will have 100% renewable energy while the Red States are still sucking the teat of dirty fossil fuels, which explains the dirty toothless gaping mouths of their ignorant but loyal addict's who continue to deny reality.
Yeah, i saw that. But maybe the gap toothed mouth breathers should pull their heads out of their asses and ask themselves “how reliable is renewable energy?” The two biggest,,,,solar only works 1/2 of a 24 hour cycle. And output is diminished by cloud cover. Wind only works when, hopefully this doesn’t soar over some heads, when it’s windy. Like i said it’ll be a long long time till any place relies 100% on renewable energy.
Still haven't researched to new fangled battery thingies I see.
What power do you use to start your car?
Does your radio work after you turn your car off?
Do you OWN a flashlight?
Lol, a guy who calls a device a “thingy” is going to talk about about renewable energy. Have a good night.
A guy who is desperate not to acknowledge the integral function of batteries in solar and wind energy storage has no room to talk.
BTW, instead of a vowel, buy a sense of humor.
Ah yes, the question that dirty non-renewable marketing groups have engineered to manipulate dumb fuck morons to distrust renewable energy sources and keep those dumb fucks sucking at the teat of their cheap and dirty fossil fuels. As pointed out but completely ignored is that the "two biggest", solar and wind energy, can be harnessed while they work into battery banks that can be used not only during the day and when winds are high but at night and low wind periods. And of course those aren't the only renewable energy sources available, if we just keep increasing our renewable generation and advancing technology in those fields we will overcome any non-renewable resource options.
To keep betting on non-renewables means you're either a total dumb fuck or you work for or are connected to the non-renewable resource collection industry and are desperate to keep it going simply because you're too fucking stupid to re-train into the growing green industry markets making wind turbines, biomass, geothermal, hydropower, solar panels and the batteries wherein renewable energies store their energy.
Dip shits and morons will likely point out that currently the most prolific renewable energy sources only work under certain conditions, sun and high winds, but they really ought to do some fucking research into the wide range of renewable energy options and stop acting so surprised when renewable energies kick their useless asses, "What!?!" energy can be stored to use during peak hours? And even at night and in low winds? Who'd a thunk it!?!". /s
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Dream on about regaining the majority next year alleged 'conservatives'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess which of the two the national media will obsess over and make a villain of?
1 A teenage boy who smiles at a man who invades his personal space as another adult tells him to go back to where he came from.
2. A white woman who puts on a gorilla mask to throw an egg at a black political candidate.
Well if Elder can't take the heat or heckling - he needs to stay out of the goddamned kitchen.
Way to miss the point as thoroughly as a point can be missed. .
What did the maga-ite/whatshisname wannabe hope to accomplish where the majority of these folks were homeless?
What point was that??????????????????????????