Fascism: Republicans' anti-democracy hoax now supported by a majority of Republican voters
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Fascism: Republicans' anti-democracy hoax now supported by a majority of Republican voters
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The hoax-promoting Sen. Josh Hawley will go down in history as a traitor to his country. He won't be alone.
A new CNN poll shows the nation remains politically divided , and by "politically divided" that primarily means Republicans continue to lurch farther and farther into hoax-promoting, anti-democratic extremism.
Two specific poll questions are worth calling out. The first is that about 6 in 10 self-identified Republicans claim to believe that "supporting Donald Trump" is either a "very" or "somewhat" important part of "what being a Republican means to you." This is a bit weird, because Donald Trump is ... not in office. He has no current position. He is retired, bumbling around at Mar-a-Lago regaling wedding guests with stories of how the world has wronged him, interspersing rounds of Florida golf with promotional appearances at cult meet-ups and pay-per-view boxing matches. Donald Trump does not currently need any "support," but the question has a nearly identical response breakdown to a much more interesting poll question that this question probably acts as a one-to-one proxy for.
That question? Whether "believing that Donald Trump won the 2020 election" is a "very" or "somewhat" important part of Republicanism. Those responses are nearly identical, with 6 in 10 Republicans agreeing that it is.
The notion that Donald Trump "won" the 2020 election is a hoax. It's specifically a fascist-promoted hoax intended to discredit democratic elections themselves, because a good chunk of the party (6 in 10, apparently) would rather burn democracy itself down than tolerate a world in which a self-promotional tax-dodging rapist incompetent gets booted after only one term in office. There is not even a scrap of evidence to support that Trump "won" an election in which he was quite soundly defeated. Not a single shred of evidence was found to back the Trump camp's propagandistic claims of "voter fraud." There is no state electoral count that could even be plausibly contested. There's nothing. The notion that Trump "won" is entirely the fabrication of a set of Trump allies who crafted it either to coddle the bruised ego of a delusional decompensating narcissist, as means for overthrowing the United States government, or both.
It is fascist propaganda. It is the equivalent of proclaiming that vaccinations turn you magnetic or that a political opponent is in fact a lizard person. It's not just false, but a toxic attempt to do harm for the sake of doing harm.
That 6 in 10 Republican voters would tell a pollster that maintaining belief in an anti-democratic hoax is evidence of fascist crackpottery now wedged firmly into the heart of Republicanism in general. These people don't believe a hoax out of nowhere. They believe it because dozens of traitorous Republican officials attached themselves to the claims, promoted the claims, and declared that any Republican officials who did not support the hoax should be drummed out of the party.
It's working. Those Republican fascists are getting what they want; a manufactured hoax based on nothing but party propaganda has now got a majority of the party's voters believing that there was a secret plot against them so nefarious that it makes the last of America's presidential elections illegitimate. To lawmakers perhaps the hoax was mostly a useful excuse for passing yet another round of Jim Crow-themed laws making it harder for citizens to cast their votes, but a majority of those who support them appear to genuinely believe that the last election was invalid based on no evidence other than a clownish Dear Leader and his fascist allies saying so.
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60% of Republicans think that believing that the election was stolen from Trump is an important part of being a Republican.
How are we supposed to compromise with this garbage?
Simple! Do what other countries opposing parties do, tell them not to vote.
So...don't even try. Quit obsessing about Trump and stay tuned for midterms,
x. It's specifically a fascist-promoted hoax intended to discredit democratic elections themselves, be
And that differs from the Democrats party line since 2000, how exactly?
In 2000 Gore won the popular vote and the EC was down to one contested state but in the end both Gore and Democrats accepted that Bush had won.
In 2020 Biden whooped Trump's fat behind badly in both the popular vote and the electoral college and yet Trump and the gop refuse to accept the results.
That is the difference. Thank you for asking though.
Lol.. What an Orwellian version of history. I hope you are just being partisan and aren't actually that uninformed about your party's history.
A couple days ago Trump told an audience of police and firefighters that the election had been "rigged" against him. That is more than ten months after the election.
Do you have examples of Al Gore doing the same throughout 2001?
you have examples of Al Gore doing the same throughout 2001?
I'm not going to look up what Al Gore said. But was he the only Democrat in the country? Are you trying to argue that Democrats like Hillary Clinton, for instance, did not publicly discredit the 2000 election?
No Democrat has ever carried on with the length or ridiculousness of Trump post Nov 3.
Never.
You know that, but you persist with these utterly false equivalencies.
Rep Corrine Brown in the House of Representatives in 2004:
"I come from Florida, where you and others participated in what I call the United States coup d'etat. We need to make sure it doesn't happen again," Brown said. "Over and over again after the election when you stole the election, you came back here and said, 'Get over it.' No, we're not going to get over it. And we want verification from the world."
Tell me John, is an elected Congressman calling the election of 2000 a "coup d' etat" discrediting elections? What about 161 Democratic Members of Congress asking the UN to supervise our elections to make sure they are fair. Is every Democrat who engaged in the diebold conspiracy of 2004 a fascist?
It's amazing how dishonest Democrats are about their own history discrediting elections and their ongoing campaign to do so. For as sure as water is wet, Democrats are going to claim voter suppression if and when they lose their next election (2022). To fixate on Trump, while ignoring your own parties decades long campaign to undermine trust in elections is staggeringly dishonest.
Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?
Republican voters don't want to think, they want a daddy figure authoritarian who will lie to them which is no problem since Republicans are experts at lying and doing the opposite of what they say to their own constituents.
The Republican base fails to recognize that every state, local and national political race they have ever won which gave them a Republican in office, is the real reason for their own woes.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd ALL credibility lost for this in the first 4 words.
The party of the GOP is dealing with kompromat. The MAGA base has a social dysfunction.