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FBI took 11 sets of classified material from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home while investigating possible Espionage Act violations

  

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Via:  tig  •  2 years ago  •  77 comments

By:   Katelyn Polantz, Zachary Cohen, Sara Murray and Marshall Cohen (CNN)

FBI took 11 sets of classified material from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home while investigating possible Espionage Act violations
The Justice Department removed 11 sets of classified documents from former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence while executing a search warrant this week for possible violations of the Espionage Act and other crimes, according to court documents unsealed and released on Friday.

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(CNN)The Justice Department removed 11 sets of classified documents from former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence while executing a search warrant this week for possible violations of the Espionage Act and other crimes, according to court documents unsealed and released on Friday.

The property receipt, which was also released on Friday, for Trump's Mar-a-Lago home shows that some of the materials recovered were marked as "top secret/SCI" -- one of the highest levels of classification.

The search warrant identifies three federal crimes that the Justice Department is looking at as part of its investigation: violations of the Espionage Act, obstruction of justice and criminal handling of government records. The inclusion of the crimes indicates the Justice Department has probable cause to investigate those offenses as it was gathering evidence in the search. No one has been charged with a crime at this time.

The warrant receipt didn't detail the subject of these classified documents but did note that federal agents seized just one set marked "top secret/SCI." Agents also took four sets of "top secret" documents, three sets of "secret" documents, and three sets of "confidential" documents, court documents show.

In total, the unsealed warrant shows the FBI collected more than 20 boxes, as well as binders of photos, sets of classified government materials and at least one handwritten note. The warrant, which has been unsealed and released publicly following a federal judge's order on Friday, was obtained by CNN ahead of its release. The moment marks an unprecedented week that began with the search -- an evidence-gathering step in a national security investigation.

Search warrant reveals new details about scope of FBI probe


While details about the documents themselves remain scarce, the laws cited in the warrant offer new insight into what the FBI was looking for when it searched Trump's home, an unprecedented step that has prompted a firestorm of criticism from the former President's closest allies.

The laws cover "destroying or concealing documents to obstruct government investigations" and the unlawful removal of government records, according to the search warrant released Friday. Also among the laws listed is one known as the Espionage Act, which relates to the "retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information or classified material." All three criminal laws cited in the warrant are from Title 18 of the United States Code. None of them solely hinge on whether information was deemed to be unclassified.

One of the less-sensitive items taken from Trump's resort, according to a the property receipt, was a document about pardoning Roger Stone, a staunch Trump ally who was convicted in 2019 of lying to Congress during its probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election. (Trump pardoned Stone before leaving office, shielding Stone from a three-year prison term.) It's unclear how the Stone-related document seized during the search is tied to the broader criminal probe into Trump's potential mishandling of classified materials. During the search, FBI agents also recovered material about the "President of France," according to the warrant receipt.

FBI agents searched '45 Office' at Mar-a-Lago


The court documents released Friday also offer new details about the search itself and revealed that FBI agents were only allowed access to specific locations within Mar-a-Lago as they combed Trump's resort residence for potential evidence of crimes. The judge authorized the FBI to search what the bureau called the "45 Office," an apparent reference to Trump's place in history as the 45th President. Agents were also permitted to search "all other rooms or areas" at Mar-a-Lago that were available to Trump and his staff for storing boxes and documents. "The locations to be searched include the '45 Office,' all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by FPOTUS and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate," the warrant says, using the acronym "FPOTUS" to refer to the Former President of the United States. The FBI's warrant application to the judge specifically said that federal agents would avoid areas being rented or used by third parties, "such as Mar-a-Lago members" and "private guest suites." Trump owns the sprawling estate, and it is his primary residence as well as a members-only club and resort. "It is described as a mansion with approximately 58 bedrooms, 33 bathrooms, on a 17-acre estate," FBI agents told the judge in their application, describing the Mar-a-Lago property.

Trump did not oppose release of search warrant


The FBI search at the resort in Palm Beach, Florida, on Monday was followed by days of silence from the Justice Department, as is the department's normal practice for ongoing investigations. Then on Thursday, Attorney General Merrick Garland announced that the department had moved to unseal the search warrant and two attachments, including an inventory list, but also stressed that some of the department's work must happen outside of public view. "We do that to protect the constitutional rights of all Americans and to protect the integrity of our investigations," Garland said, while explaining that he would not provide more detail about the basis of the search. Trump said in a late-night post on his Truth Social platform Thursday that he would "not oppose the release of documents," adding: "I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents."

The court had instructed the Justice Department to confer with Trump about its request to unseal the warrant documents from the FBI search and to tell the court by 3 p.m. ET Friday if he opposes their release. Trump's team had contacted outside attorneys about how to proceed, and the former President's orbit was caught off guard by Garland's announcement. In a pair of posts to Truth Social following Garland's statement, Trump continued to claim that his attorneys were "cooperating fully" and had developed "very good relationships" with federal investigators prior to Monday's search at Mar-a-Lago. "The government could have had whatever they wanted, if we had it," Trump said. "Everything was fine, better than most previous Presidents, and then, out of nowhere and with no warning, Mar-a-Lago was raided, at 6:30 in the morning, by VERY large numbers of agents, and even 'safecrackers.'"

This story and headline have been updated with additional developments.

CNN's Marshall Cohen contributed to this report,


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TᵢG
Professor Principal
1  seeder  TᵢG    2 years ago
The property receipt, which was also released on Friday, for Trump's Mar-a-Lago home shows that some of the materials recovered were marked as "top secret/SCI" -- one of the highest levels of classification.

How on Earth was this allowed to happen?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1  Kavika   replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago
How on Earth was this allowed to happen?

Both Hillary and Obama did it so it seems that a precedent has been set.../S

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Kavika @1.1    2 years ago

Yeah when Trump opens his mouth lies will surely ooze out.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
1.1.2  pat wilson  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.1    2 years ago

Unless he's chewing up docs.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
1.1.3  Hallux  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.2    2 years ago

The toilet flushes into his mouth?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
1.1.4  pat wilson  replied to  Hallux @1.1.3    2 years ago

That's his favored option.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago

But, but he had not one lock, but two, count them, two, on the door to the storage area of Mar-a-Lardo

That's absolutely top notch, tip top high level security right there when it comes to securing such documents which again he shouldn't have had in the first place

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
1.3  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago
How on Earth was this allowed to happen?

Hey, Melania chose the locks when 'she' renovated the joint in 2018 ...

384

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.4  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago

espionage by the former POTUS, that's going to be a tough one to spin...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.4    2 years ago

Yeah, only anti American trash can vote for a politician investigated for espionage act violations. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
1.4.2  pat wilson  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.1    2 years ago

I don't know about other politicians but trump is the only president investigated for espionage act violations.

I wouldn't say all trump voters are "anti American trash" but all are seriously misguided.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.4.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  pat wilson @1.4.2    2 years ago
politicians but trump is the only president investigated for espionage act violations.

I seem to remember a former Secretary of State being investigated for espionage act violations. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.4.4  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.3    2 years ago

but, but, but, what about...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.4.5  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.1    2 years ago
Yeah, only anti American trash will support a politician investigated for espionage act violations.

there you go, fixed, no charge...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.4.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.4.4    2 years ago

Lol.. just say you’ve got nothin..

so funny to watch.

Whatabout arguments expose hypocrisy. If your argument isn’t full of it, you should be able to handle it. If it is, well, you are reduced to doing what you do.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.4.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.4.5    2 years ago

only anti American trash will support a politician investigated for espionage act violatio

harsh but fair indictment of Those who supported Hillary Clinton.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.4.8  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.7    2 years ago
harsh but fair indictment of Those who supported Hillary Clinton.

ok, now that was funny .

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
1.4.9  pat wilson  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.7    2 years ago

Personally I didn't support Hillary Clinton. 

The FBI found at the time that no charges were appropriate in her case.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.4.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.3    2 years ago
I seem to remember a former Secretary of State being investigated for espionage act violations.

Well good for you.  Do you also remember a former Secretary of State being cleared of all charges?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago

What has actually happened? Why did it take18 months for this oversight to become a national story?

Hillary had many classified emails on her unsecured home server....where was the outtrage

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.5.1  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @1.5    2 years ago

but, but, but, what about...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.5.2  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.5    2 years ago
What has actually happened?

Trump's home was the location of a legal search and seizure by the FBI.   In result, classified documents were removed including some at the highest level of classification.

Why did it take18 months for this oversight to become a national story?

I am sure you have an hypothesis.

Hillary had many classified emails on her unsecured home server....where was the outtrage

You missed the outrage?

Here is some perspective to consider:

The Justice Department official who oversaw the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified records says there’s simply no comparing the search of Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence to the case against the former secretary of State.

“People sling these cases around to suit their political agenda but every case has to stand on its own circumstances,” said David Laufman, who led the Justice Department’s counterintelligence section until 2018 and is now a partner at the firm Wiggin and Dana.

Laufman has the credentials to judge the severity of these matters. In addition to the Clinton case, he managed the investigation of David Petraeus, the former general and CIA director who pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for mishandling classified material.   CNN reported   that one of the DOJ officials involved in the Trump investigation is his immediate successor. In the absence of more detailed information about the investigation, it’s unclear what potential crimes DOJ is probing. Notably, Trump — after a fierce campaign against Clinton in which he called for her to be jailed for her handling of classified material —   signed a law  in 2018  that stiffened the penalty  for the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents from one year to five years, turning it into a felony offense.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.5.3  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @1.5    2 years ago

The same question so many times?

Why not ask the FPOTUS why he had 26 boxes of questionable paper

material at Maralago?

Why not ask him what he has squirrelled away at Bedminster or Trump Towers?

Why deflect to someone else's emails?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.5.4  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @1.5.3    2 years ago
Why deflect to someone else's emails?

It's the squirrel defense...''Look over there it's a squirrel.''

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.5.5  JBB  replied to  Kavika @1.5.4    2 years ago

Every professional espionage service in the world was aware that beginning by at least 2014 and continuing right up to election day 2016 Trump was in secret negotiations with Vlad Putin to build Trump Tower Moscow. He even offered Putin a luxury penthouse as a bribe. Donald Trump Junior and Rudy Giuliani and Michael Cohen have exhaustively confirmed these are the facts 

If that isn't collusion with Russia, then what in Hell would be?

El Trumpo has always been a threat to our national security!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
1.5.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JBB @1.5.5    2 years ago

What were they so fond of chanting again and again at his pep rallies for the new Cult Classic Congregation for the mentally inefficient 'Right', to lose your mind and follow one over the cliff because you remain blind...LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!  ore, the irony of some Fe male version of such, cause, this really is clutch, as they have done shifted into new territories with these latest allegations, which have already borne fruit of the loom for the naked and afraid emperor, whose clothes only close minds that think about reaching new lows from behinds picked like a wedgie, driven between US All

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.5.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.3    2 years ago

The time for asking questions is over. Garland must produce an indictment and SOON!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.5.8  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.7    2 years ago
Garland must produce an indictment and SOON!

Because?

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
1.5.9  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @1.5.8    2 years ago
Because?

Big Red Wave Theory. Even Miranda Devine's 'Laptop from Hell' polling numbers are shrinking when it comes to Republicans.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
1.5.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.3    2 years ago

"Why deflect to someone else's emails?"

Why not? What Comey let her off for was far worse than than anything Trump might have done.

It's very likely her disingenuous duplicity cost her losing to Trump.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/08/13/it-seems-like-the-justice-department-forgot-to-read-this-key-memo-before-ransacking-maralago-n2611692?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky1

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.5.11  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1.5.8    2 years ago

"Because?"

Because anything less, in the eyes of the people (voters), will be looked upon as yet another failed political stunt by the Democrats

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.5.12  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.5.11    2 years ago

I do not buy Vic’s or your time table for when an indictment must ensue.   What is far more important are the facts.   If we never get an indictment and trial then this is bad optics for the Ds.   If an indictment is coming then it makes great sense for Garland to have an iron-clad case.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.5.13  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @1.5.10    2 years ago
What Comey let her off for was far worse than than anything Trump might have done.

The way Comey handled it was inappropriate and I am sure Clinton thinks it cost her the election.

It's very likely her disingenuous duplicity cost her losing to Trump.

A partisan & personal opinion.

"Hillary's emails" is just a dog whistle for Mr. Trump and most of his base.

Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Miller, Cohn, Bannon, McFarland and Priebus all did the

same as reported by the WSJ and the Washington Post.  Private encrypted emails.

House Democrats Probe White House Officials’ Email Use - WSJ

But their emails: Seven members of Trump’s team have used unofficial communication tools - The Washington Post

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.5.14  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @1.5.8    2 years ago

Because Vic said so?

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.5.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.13    2 years ago
illary's emails" is just a dog whistle for Mr. Trump and most of his base.

Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Miller, Cohn, Bannon, McFarland and Priebus all did the

same as reported by the WSJ and the Washington Post.

Really? Prove they sent and stored Top Secret/Special Acces Programs on private email.

But we'll put you down for believing Trump's top secret info is just a dog whistle. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.5.16  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @1.5.12    2 years ago

Well the Trump Attorney acting on Trump's behalf in June

must be squirming now since he signed a document ( affidavit?) proclaiming that there

were no more con/TS/SCIF documents at Mar a lago after the first subpoena was 

"satisfied" by the eventual removal of the first 15 boxes from basement storage at the

Country Club "residence".

27 boxes and 11 sets of TS later...on 08/07/2022.

The SCIF documents are all tracked meticulously and the proper authorities are now

questioning the last people to sign them out to see how they ended up in the FPOTUS's

possession.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.5.17  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.16    2 years ago

It would not be the first time someone working for Trump wound up taking the heat.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.5.18  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.16    2 years ago

today a friend with a high security clearance told me in no uncertain terms that trump is f'd over having those documents. but on a positive note for trumpski, he also told me that historically the US has traded people in possession of those documents back to russia in exchange for others.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.5.19  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  devangelical @1.5.18    2 years ago

funny ending there , but there are still some  IFs to fill in , like IF those documents are still classified currently even if they had their classification downgraded in the last year and a half  , or IF he wasnt suppose to have them in the first place just as a couple of examples .

 I would agree IF it was any joe schmoe he would likely be right , but we all also know that past a certain level , there are different rules  for the average joe and the supposed politicals no matter what party is involved 

Just have to wait and see . im just wondering who will end up with the egg on their face , could be either , could also be neither .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago
How on Earth was this allowed to happen?

You mean why didn't then President Trump simply declassify them?

The warrant asked for every document Trump came in contact with during his term in office:

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I wonder if some or all of these "top secret" documents have anything to do with those sham investigations of Trump and his associates?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.6.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    2 years ago
You mean why didn't then President Trump simply declassify them?

No, that is not at all what I meant.   A PotUS cannot simply declassify documents at high levels.   There is a formal procedure for declassification that requires others beyond simply the PotUS.

What I meant is how did our system allow documents of the highest level of classification to leave the protection of the US government and wind up in the home of an individual?

I wonder if some or all of these "top secret" documents have anything to do with those sham investigations of Trump and his associates?

You wonder.   Based on what, exactly?    What evidence do you have that supports this    NOT being yet another conspiracy theory?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.6.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    2 years ago

What is it with you and Questionable and banned sources?


The warrant asked for every document Trump came in contact with during his term in office

No, it does not.

You do realize ( as I believe the writers at Geller must be intelligent enough to know )

that the Warrant only applies to documents found at 1100 Ocean Circle Drive

( Mar a Lago )

and the yellow highlighted dates excludes all other discovery of evidence of crimes

outside of the dates listed.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.6.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    2 years ago
The warrant asked for every document Trump came in contact with during his term in office:

Simply amazing that Pamela Geller or anyone could ignore this part of the Warrant and come to that conclusion.

512

smh

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
1.6.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @1.6.3    2 years ago

I can understand why he would want to keep his love letters from Lil' Kim or his Sharpie marked National Weather Map, but these belong to the American people and they should be enjoyed in a museum.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.6.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    2 years ago
l of these "top secret" documents have anything to do with those sham investigations of Trump and his associates?

Yes. It looks like the raid was a fishing expedition for the J6 committee.  The  "classified documents"  claim seems pretextual, especially since none of the crimes listed on the warrant require classified documents.  The "every  record " created during your presidency is incredibly broad and designed for just such a fishing expedition.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.6.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.5    2 years ago

Most likely Garland will simply hand them a report in September.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.6.7  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.5    2 years ago

If the 'fishing expedition' has indeed uncovered top secret, classified documents (especially SCI) and Trump has not cooperated in their movement to a secured government facility then this 'fishing expedition' was a well-justified act for national security.

But we do not yet know the details.   Maybe the found TS/SCI documents in question were declassified.   If so, we will have records showing this because declassification is a formal process.   Maybe Trump was cooperating with the movement.   If so then Garland, Wray, et. al. will be in very deep shit.

Let's follow the facts as they arise.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.6.8  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @1.6.7    2 years ago
But we do not yet know the details.   Maybe the found TS/SCI documents in question were declassified.   If so, we will have records showing this because declassification is a formal process.   Maybe Trump was cooperating with the movement.   If so then Garland, Wray, et. al. will be in very deep shit.

Please, lets not get carried away with assuming there is a viable side of the story belonging to Trump. For one thing, it would be a first. There may be a first time for everything but not with this guy. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.6.9  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @1.6.8    2 years ago

The key to objective analysis is to accept the possibility of scenarios from all sides of the debate and then use facts and logic to approach the truth.

Thus even though Trump is likely at fault, I will not reject the possibility that he has done no wrong in this case.   I would be quite surprised if he were innocent, but that is not a sound reason to reject the possibility.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.6.10  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @1.6.9    2 years ago
Thus even though Trump is likely at fault, I will not reject the possibility that he has done no wrong in this case.   I would be quite surprised if he were innocent, but that is not a sound reason to reject the possibility.

Its also possible he is a secret drag queen. Anything is possible, I try to deal in probabilities. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.6.11  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @1.6.10    2 years ago

Putting forth a ridiculous possibility intentionally misses the point.   Obviously the considered possibilities are scenarios that are within the realm of reason and apply to the question at hand.

It is not sound analysis to reject the possibility that Trump did no wrong.   Acknowledging the possibility is not going to change the truth but rejecting it inserts bias and disrupts objective analysis.

 
 
 
Thomas
Senior Guide
1.6.12  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @1.6.9    2 years ago

Trump may have some wiggle room. The law in question leaves the door open for "misunderstandings". And if there was ever a  person who has made his living on "misunderstandings", that would be DJT.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.6.13  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @1.6.12    2 years ago

You may be right and he might indeed wiggle out of yet another situation.    He sure does seem to skirt consequences.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.6.14  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @1.6.13    2 years ago

Only the best and brightest that money can buy

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.7  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 years ago

Anybody with even half a brain knows that Trump has been a serial criminal for his whole life.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
1.7.1  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @1.7    2 years ago
Anybody with even half a brain knows that Trump has been a serial criminal for his whole life

List one thing he has been indicted/convicted for criminally

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.7.2  squiggy  replied to  cjcold @1.7    2 years ago
Anybody with even half a brain knows that Trump has been a serial criminal for his whole life.

Anybody with a normal brain can recognize that for bullshit.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    2 years ago

Is what Trump did worse than pulling the tags off of a mattress? Yes, of course, it is and it was and no, Trump did not declassify the whole lot...

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago

He wrestled with the box spring, till it laid him out, for a torrid autumn looking for possibly another, to take the Fall.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3  Ender    2 years ago

He just can't stop lying can he.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.1  cjcold  replied to  Ender @3    2 years ago

It's a thing that psychopaths just have to do. They can't help themselves.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4  seeder  TᵢG    2 years ago

This is something that needs to be cleared up:

This source said Trump and his staff were, and are, committed to being in compliance with the Presidential Records Act, which requires presidential administrations to preserve certain documents.
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @4    2 years ago
The former president touted his current poll numbers saying they "are the strongest they have ever been, fundraising by the Republican Party is breaking all records, and midterm elections are fast approaching."
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.2  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @4    2 years ago
The source close to Trump told Fox News that Trump has been cooperating in the investigation into the NARA records for a year. 

Why would it take a year? Seems something very simple that could be rectified very quickly.

 
 
 
Revillug
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4.2.1  Revillug  replied to  Ender @4.2    2 years ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.2  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Revillug @4.2.1    2 years ago

Nicely done!

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Participates
4.2.3  Revillug  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.2    2 years ago

I didn't create the graphic. It's from a page explaining Zeno's paradoxes.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.2    2 years ago

It took me a little bit...Haha

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
5  seeder  TᵢG    2 years ago

Additional perspective:

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6  JBB    2 years ago

Remember when the goppers slandered Merrick Garland, a lifelong rock solid Republican, to cheat him out of a seat on the Supreme Court?

Remember when Trump unfairly ruined the careers of a whole slew of our nation's top law enforcement professionals? Do you remember all of the good solid lifelong Republicans like Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Rod Rosenstein and many many others who Trump ruined unfairly? The Turrells never forgot and neither have the gop's Republican   Victims.

Outside Fox's Magaverse this is not playing well with America!

MAGA nutters are pretending like Trump did nothing wrong...

Merrick Garland just made sure El Trumpo knows it was him!

original

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7  JBB    2 years ago

The maximum penalty for violations of The Espionage Act is death!

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
7.1  squiggy  replied to  JBB @7    2 years ago

raided.jpg

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.1.1  JBB  replied to  squiggy @7.1    2 years ago

Except now we know Trump was engaging in espionage. Ha Ha!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @7.1.1    2 years ago
Except now we know Trump was engaging in espionage. Ha Ha!

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

― Ronald Reagan

Unless, of course, you do the totally unexpected and post a link to prove your claim.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @7.1.1    2 years ago
Except now we know Trump was engaging in espionage.

On what facts do you base your claim on?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.2  cjcold  replied to  JBB @7    2 years ago

Stop teasing me!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
8  Buzz of the Orient    2 years ago

If the wheels of American justice run at their usual speed, we should have the answers by 2027.

 
 

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