preservation notices, document requests and the coming storm.

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  209 comments

preservation notices, document requests and the coming storm.
"The FBI colluded with Big Tech to silence news stories before the 2020 election in an effort to control your access to information," McCarthy wrote on Twitter, adding "when Republicans are back in charge, we will hold all of them accountable."

The link to the above quote: https://news.yahoo.com/kevin-mccarthy-vows-punish-democrats-154146029.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Whether democrats and their subservient media want to believe it or not, the House of Representatives will be in Republican hands next year. There will be a new round of investigations and
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has already encouraged top Republicans to issue preservation notices and document requests. Thus far as many as 500 have been issued. The executive branch hasn't been cooperating, though they have been hiring lawyers. Those to be placed under congressional investigation are obvious to all but those on the far left.


The most import at the current time:


1)  Hunter Biden.

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Influence peddler, drug & sex addict and dilettante, Biden is supposedly under investigation for among other things: influence peddling, money laundering and tax evasion. There has been a tight lid on these investigations and the left wing media has shown little interest in reporting on them. The untrustworthy FBI can't seem to locate the Hunter Biden laptop that was in their custody. Recently Mark Zuckerberg said that the FBI warned him of a "Russian Disinformation" dump shortly before the Biden laptop story broke. Hunter Biden’s financial arrangement with CEFC China Energy show that the Chinese energy conglomerate paid $4.8 million to entities controlled by Hunter Biden and his uncle. The CCP is America's # 1 enemy.


2) Attorney General Merrick Garland

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Garland has tried to intimidate American parents who confront radical school board members. It was Garland who directed the FBI to combat ‘threats of violence’ against administrators. Of course, the truth of the matter is that the administrators want to teach American children CRT and gender studies. It had a chilling effect on the free speech of parents and all but ended the resolve of parents to protect their children. Most recently, he infuriated many Americans with an audacious raid on the home of a former President. From top to bottom, Garland's DOJ is staffed with the most extreme elements of the radical left.


3) Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.

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There is already a resolution to impeach him on a charge of failing to secure the border. Under his direction, the border crisis hit a new record this past May which saw the largest number of illegal border crossers along our southern border since CBP began keeping track in 2000. Communities along the southern border have been overwhelmed. The border patrol has encountered more than 1.8 million illegals in 2022, and there are still two months left to go in the fiscal year. Fentanyl is also flowing across the southern border at an alarming rate. All of this by design.


4) NIAID Director Anthony Fauci

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This is the man who virtually directed the pandemic response in it's early days. The man who recommended that the economy be shut down. The man who ignored naturally acquired immunity. The man who recommended school closures. The man who once argued that conducting experiments on contagious viruses to increase their potency was worth the risk, even if the work could accidentally lead to a pandemic. And there is some evidence that the Wuhan Lab was funded by the NIH. Gain-of-function experiments are the sort of work that was being conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology when the COVID-19 pandemic hit China sometime in late 2019. Dr Fauci has tried to redefine what "Gain of Function" means when confronted by Sen Paul. Fauci has also used politics to protect himself by bootlicking democrats and the media.


5) The FBI


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The FBI that Barack Obama politicized & weaponized. We need an in-depth accounting of why Wray never cleaned up the Bureau.



In addition to the above, the Jan 6th Committee may be resumed under Republican leadership. It won't look anything like what we have been subjected to should McCarthy decide to continue with it. 

Expect the democrats to use their usual projection when it comes time for them to become the hunted.


 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Let's just call it a start!

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

I'd rather be more accurate and call your seed delusional. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.1    one month ago

In what way?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    one month ago
In what way?

In the way that people believe in the 'sanctity' of the FBI and other DC institutions.

Well, when Dems are in charge, of course.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    one month ago

In every way. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @1.1.3    one month ago

All of them in every way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    one month ago

I never trolled your seeds

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    one month ago

You dont pay any any attention to the truth.  Why not have fun !

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    one month ago

Ask Liz Cheney what being a Republican is worth.   Then ask Joe Manchin what being a Democrat is worth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    one month ago

Then don't complain about trolling.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.4    one month ago

An image that points out that the FBI is a conservative, not liberal, institution is not trolling, it is reality. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.5    one month ago

It is a flat out lie.

Performance and the facts tell us what the FBI is, not some leftist picture.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.6    one month ago

Didn't Comey set the standard for taking classified documents:

"From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the State Department, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional emails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the emails were sent.

The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related emails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional emails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private email domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government email accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.

This helped us recover work-related emails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of email fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.

With respect to the thousands of emails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret emails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”

I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related emails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many email users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted emails or emails were purged from the system when devices were changed. Because she was not using a government account — or even a commercial account like Gmail — there was no archiving at all of her emails, so it is not surprising that we discovered emails that were not on Secretary Clinton’s system in 2014, when she produced the 30,000 emails to the State Department.

It could also be that some of the additional work-related emails we recovered were among those deleted as “personal” by Secretary Clinton’s lawyers when they reviewed and sorted her emails for production in 2014.

The lawyers doing the sorting for Secretary Clinton in 2014 did not individually read the content of all of her emails, as we did for those available to us; instead, they relied on header information and used search terms to try to find all work-related emails among the reportedly more than 60,000 total emails remaining on Secretary Clinton’s personal system in 2014. It is highly likely their search terms missed some work-related emails, and that we later found them, for example, in the mailboxes of other officials or in the slack space of a server.

It is also likely that there are other work-related emails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all emails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery.

We have conducted interviews and done technical examination to attempt to understand how that sorting was done by her attorneys. Although we do not have complete visibility because we are not able to fully reconstruct the electronic record of that sorting, we believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort.

And, of course, in addition to our technical work, we interviewed many people, from those involved in setting up and maintaining the various iterations of Secretary Clinton’s personal server, to staff members with whom she corresponded on email, to those involved in the email production to State, and finally, Secretary Clinton herself.

Last, we have done extensive work to understand what indications there might be of compromise by hostile actors in connection with the personal email operation.

That’s what we have done. Now let me tell you what we found:

Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

For example, seven email chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on email (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” emails).

None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government — or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified email systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal email domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account.

So that’s what we found. Finally, with respect to our recommendation to the Department of Justice:

In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect. Although we don’t normally make public our recommendations to the prosecutors, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with prosecutors about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.

As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.

I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation — including people in government — but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation, because we did the investigation the right way. Only facts matter, and the FBI found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way. I couldn’t be prouder to be part of this organization."


 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.8  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    one month ago

That comment simply outlines how deluded some on the left actually are.    

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Texan1211
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1.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.8    one month ago

How can we find happiness when we know so many are out there suffering so?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.9    one month ago

We'll have to put in on a board and call it "TDS for dummies."

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.7    one month ago
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

I find it hilarious that you highlighted that in bold yet don't seem to understand what it MEANS. 

I posit that there IS clear evidence that Donald J. Trump INTENDED to violate the laws governing the handling of classified information AND there is overwhelming evidence that Donald J. Trump was extremely careless in his handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.11    one month ago
I posit that there IS clear evidence that Donald J. Trump INTENDED to violate the laws governing the handling of classified information

PROVE IT

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.13  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.12    one month ago

That would require you to READ the documents Vic. All of them are readily available online. 

READ the NARA letters to Trump. 

READ the warrant. 

Oh and here's one for you to READ:

That document proves that all the bullshit from Kash Patel are lies. 

When you're done, THEN maybe we can have a cogent discussion about their content. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.13    one month ago
When you're done, THEN maybe we can have a cogent discussion about their content.

I don't think so. This was an issue between the bureaucrats at the National Archives and the Trump people. The FBI should never have been involved in this. You want me to read something that is so overly redacted that it can't be read. We now know that privileged attorney/client documents were taken. You can bet that anything derogatory in there will be leaked just as Kash Patel's name was left unredacted. That is why you needed an independent examiner should have been apointed immediately.

Two notes:

1) The documentcloud you does not prove what you claimed and the warrant that I read is a clear violation of the 4th Amendment..NO GENERAL WARRANTS!!!

2) The line I boldened, which you found so "hilarious" was highlighted to point out that Comey disregared the law, which said that NEGLIGENCE was in itself a violation. Comey not only had to rewrite his statement to replace negligence with carelessness (as if there is a difference) only shows that Clinton violated the law and Comey let her get away with it. Not only that, but he set a new standard - one that required INTENT, which is very hard to prove.


18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(f)

Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.15  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.14    one month ago
I don't think so.

I don't care. 

This was an issue between the bureaucrats at the National Archives and the Trump people.

Bullshit Vic. The NARA has MANDATES set by the Congress. Again, you'd have to READ to know that. 

The FBI should never have been involved in this.

The NARA doesn't have a criminal division Vic. When they uncover a crime, they call the DOJ. The DOJ assigned the FBI [it's in their name].

You want me to read something that is so overly redacted that it can't be read.

There is plenty to read in the warrant Vic. If it takes you a couple of days, I'll wait...

We now know that privileged attorney/client documents were taken.

So what? If you READ the warrant, they were prepared for that. 

You can bet that anything derogatory in there will be leaked just as Kash Patel's name was left unredacted.

See, if you had READ the documents, you would know that the DOJ is REQUIRED to include exculpatory information Vic. Kash Patel put his own ass on the line. He has been on RW media spewing bullshit for MONTHS. The DOJ included his statement as possible exculpatory evidence. Get educated. 

That is why you needed an independent examiner should have been apointed immediately.

Then WTF took Trump so long to file that request?

Note that NO request was filed for the 15 boxes that Trump released. Hilariously, his lawyer requested to review the contents of those boxes AFTER they were returned to the NARA. READING the documents just reiterates the incompetence of Trump and his minions. 

The documents show that it took the FBI about 8 days to go through the 15 boxes Trump returned to the NARA. It's been 21 DAYS. The FBI has undoubtedly gone through everything they retrieved through the warrant.

In short, if your nightmare scenario were true, it could have and should have happened already.

I guess the FBI 'Villains, Thieves, and Scoundrels Union' is slipping.../s

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.16  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.6    one month ago
It is a flat out lie.

Are you calling John a liar Vic? 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.17  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.14    one month ago

trump's willful retention of classified documents. why didn't the dumb ass give it all back when he was first asked? why is it so hard for him to understand? he screwed up, deal with it.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.18  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.14    one month ago
Two notes: 1) The documentcloud you does not prove what you claimed and the warrant that I read is a clear violation of the 4th Amendment..NO GENERAL WARRANTS!!!

A Judge found that there was probable cause for the search Vic. 

Oh, and WTF is a 'GENERAL WARRANT'? 

2) The line I boldened, which you found so "hilarious" was highlighted to point out that Comey disregared the law, which said that NEGLIGENCE was in itself a violation. Comey not only had to rewrite his statement to replace negligence with carelessness (as if there is a difference) only shows that Clinton violated the law and Comey let her get away with it. Not only that, but he set a new standard - one that required INTENT, which is very hard to prove.

Well gee Vic, the definition of negligence and carelessness are different so there MUST be a difference. Negligence is a legal term, carelessness, not so much. 

Compare that to 'conspiracy' and 'collusion'. 

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, Transmitting Or Losing Defense Information (F)

Now Vic, apply that statute to what Trump did. 

Should the DOJ let him 'get away with it'? 

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
1.2.19  dennis smith  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.12    one month ago

You will not get proof

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.3    one month ago

Joe Manchin is a corrupt DINO.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.21  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.17    one month ago

Dr. Oz Claims That Eating Classified Documents Was Essential to Trump’s Healthy Diet

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PITTSBURGH ( The Borowitz Report )—Eating classified documents was “an essential part of President Donald Trump’s super-healthy diet,” Dr. Mehmet Oz has claimed.

Oz, the longtime television host and, more recently, Pennsylvania’s G.O.P. nominee for the U.S. Senate, said that “classified documents, including the nuclear codes, provided the roughage necessary to keep President Trump’s digestive system humming along at the highest possible level.”

Speaking at a campaign stop in Pittsburgh, Oz said that Trump’s diet consisted of “the four food groups: the hamburger group, the ketchup group, the Coca-Cola group, and the classified-documents group.”

“Looking at President Trump, you might wonder what miracle diet made him such a fine physical specimen,” Oz said. “It turns out that national-security documents are not only loaded with secrets—they’re chock-full of fibre.”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.21    one month ago

As some of you used to tell a deeply religious human being, "we want to here from you"  "give us your thoughts!"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.20    one month ago

To soon be replaced by a fully functioning Republican.

Feel better?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.24  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.12    one month ago
there is overwhelming evidence that Donald J. Trump was extremely careless in his handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

I note that you refrained from asking me to prove that. 

Does that mean that you agree? 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.25  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.23    one month ago
a fully functioning Republican

no such thing...

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2.26  Sparty On  replied to  devangelical @1.2.25    one month ago

Only to Prozac pill popping, wack-a-doodle worker drone liberals.

Coo coo ka choo

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.27  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @1.2.19    one month ago

Did you READ the documents I cited dennis? 

If NOT, why would you presume they don't include proof?

If you did, how the fuck could you deny that they include a plethora of proof that Trump INTENDED to break the law?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.28  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.27    one month ago
Did you READ the documents I cited dennis?

Mark Meadows interpretation of Donald Trump's interpretation of documents???


If NOT, why would you presume they don't include proof?

I did and they fail the Comey standard of intent.  If the prosecutors believed it they'd be prosecuting. You and Comey were better off with the law as it was written and then you could easily indict Trump for "gross negligence." The only problem with that is you'd have to indict Hillary for the same thing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.24    one month ago

That could very well be true. The problem is that Comey changed the legal standard to save Hillary's rotten ass.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.30  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.18    one month ago
A Judge found that there was probable cause for the search Vic. 

You mean the magistrate that once recused himself from a Trump case because he hates Trump?   Did the DOJ go judge shopping yet again?


Oh, and WTF is a 'GENERAL WARRANT'?

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.





Well gee Vic, the definition of negligence and carelessness are different so there MUST be a difference. Negligence is a legal term, carelessness, not so much.

Well gee Dulay, that must be the reason that Comey changed it after he accidently called it negligence. Then he inserted carelessness for all the dear lefties that he serves. Even after that he raised the standard to the extremely high standard of intent. Isn't that now the standard?


Now Vic, apply that statute to what Trump did. 

We would have to see what he did. It is hard to believe that an opposition candidate's partisan DOJ would not indict if that were true....especially with DC juries foaming at the mouth to get at the man they hate.  What say you to that, Dulay?

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
1.2.31  dennis smith  replied to  Dulay @1.2.27    4 weeks ago

For years we have heard from the Dems that they have proof and Trump would be indicted yet that never happened. So now the Dems have changed their stance from proving that Trump broke the law to Trump intended to break the law.

Grasping at straws continues with TDS

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.32  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.28    4 weeks ago
Mark Meadows interpretation of Donald Trump's interpretation of documents???

No, Mark Meadows declaration, made under penalty of perjury, that despite Kash Patel's claim, Trump's tweet did NOT declassify documents. 

I did and they fail the Comey standard of intent.

Then I can only conclude that you have an issue with comprehending the documents. 

The affidavit documents that the NARA first contacted Trump in May 2021 to inform him that they KNEW that he had failed to turn over Presidential papers.

ANY Presidential papers held by Trump after that date was INTENTIONAL. 

Trump did not turn over any documents until Jan. 2022, a year after he left office. Trump's lawyer alleges that they don't even know WTF was in those 15 boxes. The NARA and FBI confirm that there were Presidential papers and classified documents in those boxes. 

In June 2022, Trump's lawyers showed Jay Bratt an unsecured room with boxes of documents. Trump's lawyers were told to gather all the documents and properly secure the room. Trump's lawyers also signed a document that swore that there were no more Presidential or classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. There is overwhelming evidence that they lied. 

Hense, NO thinking person can claim that Trump did not have the INTENT to retain documents in violation of the PRA.

Trump's incessant claim that he declassified any documents he brought to Mar-a-Lago also proves that he had the INTENT to remove classified documents and take them to his unsecured resort. 

Oh, and BTFW, it's still unknown whether either of Trump's lawyers has the classified status to view the documents they were entrusted with. It is a known FACT that Trump does NOT and is NOT authorized to review the classified documents that he had or has. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.33  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.30    4 weeks ago
You mean the magistrate that once recused himself from a Trump case because he hates Trump?   Did the DOJ go judge shopping yet again?

Do you have a link to support that allegation Vic? 

Amendment IV

Non-responsive. 

BTFW, the warrant qualifies. Why pretend it doesn't? 

Well gee Dulay, that must be the reason that Comey changed it after he accidently called it negligence. Then he inserted carelessness for all the dear lefties that he serves.

Perhaps it as simple as the fact that he couldn't PROVE 'negligence', just like Mueller couldn't prove 'conspiracy'. 

Even after that he raised the standard to the extremely high standard of intent. Isn't that now the standard?

The statute is predicated by intent Vic. Comey didn't 'raise' the standard, he followed it. 

We would have to see what he did.

You need only base your position on what Trump has already admitted to doing Vic. 

It is hard to believe that an opposition candidate's partisan DOJ would not indict if that were true....especially with DC juries foaming at the mouth to get at the man they hate.  What say you to that, Dulay?

It's a crap load of argle-bargle.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.34  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @1.2.31    4 weeks ago
For years we have heard from the Dems that they have proof and Trump would be indicted yet that never happened.

During which time Trump was in charge of the DOJ. 

So now the Dems have changed their stance from proving that Trump broke the law to Trump intended to break the law.

Nope, the evidence is that Trump broke the law WITH intent. 

Grasping at straws continues with TDS

Your comment illustrates that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.35  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.33    4 weeks ago
Do you have a link to support that allegation Vic? 

Of course I do:




How could you not know?


Non-responsive. 

BTFW, the warrant qualifies. Why pretend it doesn't? 

I highlighted the section that the warrant violates. BTW they also violated attorney / client privilege


Perhaps it as simple as the fact that he couldn't PROVE 'negligence', just like Mueller couldn't prove 'conspiracy'.

Negligence is not a hard thing to prove.


The statute is predicated by intent Vic. 

I gave you the statute and highlighted the "gross negligence standard.. Why do you pretend clear language means something else?


You need only base your position on what Trump has already admitted to doing Vic. 

I would need criminality and obviously Garland hasn't found any.


It's a crap load of argle-bargle.

The FBI can indict a ham sandwich. Where Oh where is the indictment?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.36  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.34    4 weeks ago
During which time Trump was in charge of the DOJ. 

He didn't have charge of a special prosecutor. Funny how that only happens when the dems are on the sidelines.


Nope, the evidence is that Trump broke the law WITH intent. 

There is no evidence and I suspect that there never will an indictment....just salacious leaks.  It sounds so oddly familiar!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.36    4 weeks ago

The defenses of Trump about these things always comes down to a version of  -  he's a strange, ignorant person who has no clue what is going on, even when he is in the middle of it.  Voting for him are ya? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.38  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.37    4 weeks ago
The defenses of Trump about these things always comes down to a version of  -  he's a strange, ignorant person who has no clue what is going on, even when he is in the middle of it. 

All that tells me is that there are about 18 of you here who seem to be in favor of a KGB style government police force that either tries to prosecute or slander or intimidate it's political opponents.


 Voting for him are ya?

I'm actually hoping that he is indicted (preferably via dishonest means.)  However, if it comes down to him vs another term of this far left dictatorship, I'd not only vote for him but a lot of people who would really scare ya. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.39  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.38    4 weeks ago

Joe Biden went on the offensive today attacking Republicans who say they are pro law enforcement but wont denounce the Jan 6 rioters.  Enjoy the next 3 months of this. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.40  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.39    4 weeks ago
Joe Biden went on the offensive today attacking Republicans who say they are pro law enforcement but wont denounce the Jan 6 rioters. 

He's come along way from the campaign when he told us that he would "unite" the country. Now he says pick sides.


Enjoy the next 3 months of this. 

I'll be here all night on November 8th. See you then.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.41  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.40    4 weeks ago
He's come along way from the campaign when he told us that he would "unite" the country. Now he says pick sides.

Oh, man, did Joe go off-script again?

Or did his handlers put him up to it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.42  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.40    4 weeks ago

I would question who has divided the country more, President Biden, or the leader of the Republican Party who posts QAnon messages on his social media. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.43  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.42    4 weeks ago

I'm putting my money on the tool that claims that a Recession isn't really a Recession, the border is secure, the pandemic was one of the unvaccinated and wants to tell us how terrible the American people are.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.44  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.41    4 weeks ago

He's is quite selective when it comes to denouncing violence, isn't he?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.45  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.35    4 weeks ago
Of course I do:

Of course your link doesn't support your claim and in fact states:

If the bias was against Trump, Rahmini said, "logic would suggest that he should recuse himself in both cases." "It is surprising that a judge was recused themselves in a case involving one party, but not a second case involving the same party," he said. "The only logical way it would make sense is if he has some pro-Hillary Clinton bias, but he's neutral when it comes to Trump."

Of course, that supposes one can apply logic. 

I highlighted the section that the warrant violates.

That's bullshit Vic. Stop gaslighting your readers. 

BTW they also violated attorney / client privilege

No again. Just stop. 

Negligence is not a hard thing to prove.

Actually, it is Vic. It's that whole intent thingy that you hate so much. 

I gave you the statute and highlighted the "gross negligence standard.. Why do you pretend clear language means something else?

First of all Vic, you hang your hat on Comey changing the wording from negligence to carelessness.

Are you NOW claiming that Comey actually started out claiming GROSS NEGLIGENCE'?

If that is your claim, PROVE that shit Vic.

Secondly, you cited ONLY section F of the statute. Here is a summary of the preceding sections:

18 U.S. Code § 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with
intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States,
or to the advantage of any foreign nation...

(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe...

(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid... willfully communicates...

(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any 
document... willfully communicates...

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document... willfully 
communicates,

THAT is what I mean by PREDICATED Vic. 

I would need criminality and obviously Garland hasn't found any.

That's the most delusional shit you have said in this discussion so far Vic. You're all about 18 U.S. Code § 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information. Here's the full text of section (e):

Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; 
They gave Trump dead to rights. 
The FBI can indict a ham sandwich. Where Oh where is the indictment?
You act as if Trump is a flight risk Vic. Where Oh where would he run to? 
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.46  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.45    4 weeks ago
Of course your link doesn't support your claim and in fact states:

Still unable to understand big bold facts?  It says right there in the piece you pulled out that he previously recused himself in a case involving Trump, yet took on this one. Why do you not get it?


First of all Vic, you hang your hat on Comey changing the wording from negligence to carelessness.

Are you NOW claiming that Comey actually started out claiming GROSS NEGLIGENCE'?

Another easy one:



I can't believe you lived through all of this. Are you putting us on?  Or do you just want to see if I can still find it? Links everyday for you...all of it common knowledge!


Secondly, you cited ONLY section F of the statute.

Well gee Dulay, section F is the one that lists "Gross Negligence." No other section contradicts it. Read it upside down if you like.


They gave Trump dead to rights. 

Thus far Biden's hack says otherwise.


Let us know when you have an indictment

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.47  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.46    4 weeks ago
Still unable to understand big bold facts?  It says right there in the piece you pulled out that he previously recused himself in a case involving Trump, yet took on this one. Why do you not get it?

Oh, I get it Vic. You believe that you can take one fact and extrapolate an unsupported conclusion to support your agenda. 

Another easy one:

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Well gee Dulay, section F is the one that lists "Gross Negligence." No other section contradicts it. Read it upside down if you like.

Again, the statute is predicated by INTENT. Nothing in section F or anything YOU have said refutes that. 

Thus far Biden's hack says otherwise.

Who?

Let us know when you have an indictment

'Us' who Vic. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.48  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.25    4 weeks ago

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Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.49  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.36    4 weeks ago
He didn't have charge of a special prosecutor. Funny how that only happens when the dems are on the sidelines.

Oh but he WAS Vic. Since you insist that Biden is 'in charge' and responsible for the actions of the DOJ now, you can't credibly claim that Trump wasn't 'in charge' and responsible for the DOJ's actions during his term.

Trump is responsible for the actions of Mueller and Durham while he was in office. 

There is no evidence and I suspect that there never will an indictment....just salacious leaks.  It sounds so oddly familiar!

There is a plethora of evidence, much of which Trump has provided by flapping his gums on his media forum and to his chosen talking heads. Oh, and let's not forget about the 'leaks' from John Solomon and Trump's lawyers. Can't wait for Alina Habba to be deposed. 

Oh, and I'm still waiting for your proof that Garland leaked Vic. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

Let's just call it a start!

... the start of another insurrection attempt.

it's hilarious watching the trumpsters bluster and threaten at the idea of their demigod doing a perp walk. looks like not getting re-elected has consequences too. let's list the potential crimes that trumpsters think that former republican presidents shouldn't be held accountable for....

  1. FEC violations
  2. collusion with enemies of the USA
  3. quid pro quo
  4. obstruction of justice
  5. attempted subversion of a free and fair election
  6. fomenting an insurrection and a coup attempt
  7. willful retention of classified documents
  8. obstruction of justice, again
  9. threatening law enforcement agencies
  10. encouraging his mentally challenged supporters to engage in further acts of domestic terrorism
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.3    one month ago

But there won't be an indictment, will there?

 
 
 
GregTx
Junior Participates
1.3.2  GregTx  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    one month ago

Highly doubtful...

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
1.3.3  dennis smith  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    one month ago

After 5 + years of investigations, impeachments etc, there have been no indictments.

The left has shown their ineptitude in their attempts to find what is not there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  dennis smith @1.3.3    one month ago

And those were scorched-earth investigations by real haters. Yet as you say, they came up empty. Many in the FBI faced no accountability.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.3.5  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    one month ago
Many in the FBI faced no accountability.

Who and accountability for what? Be specific. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.3.6  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    4 weeks ago

"Typically when a person avoids answering a question, that question was posed by another person in a debate or discussion. In such cases, the person is not only evincing flawed reasoning but also violating basic principles of discussion."

learnreligions  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.3.6    4 weeks ago

I'm going to ask NBC to bring back the Quiz Shows so you can ask all the questions.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.3.8  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.7    4 weeks ago

I'm going to continue to post YOUR characterization of those who don't answer questions to call out the hypocrisy. 

Enjoy. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.4  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2  Ronin2    one month ago

If the Senate remains under Democrat control the House will have nothing better to do than out Democrats and their minions for everything they have been doing. It will never go beyond that in the Senate. Don't expect impeachments; cooperation; or even the slightest bit of caring.

Stagnation is better than the Democrat shit bills being passed now. 

Expect the divide in this country to grow even wider over the next two years with Democrats screaming about Republican investigations; and Republicans screaming about Democrats turning the IRS, DOJ, and FBI into arms of the Democrat Party. 2024 won't see the end of it either. No matter who wins the White House the lines will have already been drawn. Impeachment will be the opposition's party only word.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @2    one month ago
Stagnation is better than the Democrat shit bills being passed now. 

Anything is better. This is authoritarian rule.

Expect the divide in this country to grow even wider over the next two years with Democrats screaming about Republican investigations; and Republicans screaming about Democrats turning the IRS, DOJ, and FBI into arms of the Democrat Party. 2024 won't see the end of it either. No matter who wins the White House the lines will have already been drawn. Impeachment will be the opposition's party only word. 

And nobody should be surprised.  We will fight to get our country back!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.1.1    one month ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    one month ago
There won't be any safe spaces then. No women to hide behind

oh no, what will trumpsters do? oh wait, the self righteous always use kids as shields, never mind.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.1.3    one month ago

The question is what will you do?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    one month ago

I'll be taking still-life pictures and collecting maga hats.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @2.1.5    one month ago
I'll be taking still-life pictures and collecting maga hats.

Stil dreaming that you are a Billy Bad Ass and going to kill Maga, right?

LMMFAO!

All talk, no action.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.1.5    one month ago

What will you be wearing?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.8    one month ago

Fair is fair. He knows what I look like. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    one month ago

Maybe he will try to scare you with his fierce talk.

Beyond the risk of dying from boredom, you don't seem to be at risk.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.10    one month ago

Nope, it's not working.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    one month ago
What will you be wearing?

polo shirt, jeans, and nikes...

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
2.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    one month ago
No women to hide behind /s

Well, they do have their liberal "males".

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
2.1.14  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    one month ago

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bugsy
Professor Participates
2.1.15  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Graham predicts "riots in the streets" if Trump prosecuted over classified docs

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https:// trib.al/ije73Jm

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    one month ago

Violence? Like on January 6th? A terroristic threat!

Graham is being harshly criticized for what he said.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1    one month ago

I think he means the kind of hellish violence we saw in blue cities during 2020.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    one month ago

So, are the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and White Nationalists only going to burn down FBI Field Offices in our blue states?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1    one month ago
Graham is being harshly criticized for what he said.

Ooooh, a Democrat got offended.

B.F.D.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.3    one month ago

You should have seen Twitter this morning. All those little shaking space shots who are still living at home with Mommy, were outraged. Their fingers racing to hit the keys!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.3    one month ago

this is what happens to anti-law enforcement trumpsters...

tsk, tsk, tsk, too bad...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.1.5    one month ago

Always someone else, never you though, right?

Must be terribly disappointing, always seeing others doing what you can only dream of.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.7  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    one month ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.7    one month ago

WHEN?????????

Democrats have been saying that for at least 6 years now.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    one month ago
Must be terribly disappointing, always seeing others doing what you can only dream of.

my opportunities to defend america from trump's domestic terrorists seems to be getting better every day.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.1.9    one month ago
my opportunity to defend america from domestic terrorists seem to be getting better every day.

Except, you simply are NOT defending a fucking thing!

Just bragging about all the things you would like to do but never accomplish.

Trying to live your life vicariously through the exploits of others is a sad way of living.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
3.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.8    one month ago

Don't ruin their dreams.  We both know they don't have anything more than that.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.10    one month ago

I can wait until it's legal, and that probably won't be too much longer.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.1.12    one month ago
I can wait until it's legal, and that probably won't be too much longer.

Oh, it is legal NOW to live vicariously through the actions and accomplishments of others, as you so easily have proven.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.1.14  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    one month ago
I think he means the kind of hellish violence we saw in blue cities during 2020.

And liberals like Camel Toe said they should not stop and they won't stop.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    one month ago

For the sake of the thimble full of credibility you have left, I hope this is a bigger "storm" than the one you predicted the Durham investigation would produce.  I have the feeling the FBI, Fauci, Biden , etc are not shaking in their boots over threats from the clownish Kevin McCarthy. 

In other, more important, news today, Donald Trump is retweeting Q Anon nuts on his Truth Social mess . 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago
I have the feeling the FBI, Fauci, Biden , etc are not shaking in their boots over threats from the clownish Kevin McCarthy. 

That's right. The government is full of progressives. They'll all walk.


In other, more important, news today, Donald Trump is retweeting Q Anon nuts on his Truth Social mess .

Only to the radical left.

Americans are suffering. That's the news.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    one month ago
Americans are suffering. That's the news.

Your 'examples' of what 'real Americans are 'suffering' are:

The most import at the current time:

1)  Hunter Biden.

2) Attorney General Merrick Garland

3) Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.

4) NIAID Director Anthony Fauci

5) The FBI

Delusional. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @4.1.1    one month ago

Real Americans are suffering from inflation at 40 year highs.

Real Americans are going to be forced to pay college loan debts for people who allegedly went to college to secure good careers, while people who decided not to go are saddled with their bills, thanks to Democrats and Biden.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @4.1.1    one month ago

Wrong again!  Americans are suffering but that is different from the article, which is about who will be investigated by the House next year.


Try not to conflate the two.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    one month ago
Wrong again!  Americans are suffering but that is different from the article, which is about who will be investigated by the House next year.
Try not to conflate the two.

Wait WHAT? 

You start with:

The most import at the current time:

Then you state:

Americans are suffering. That's the news.

I conflated nothing. I replied to your comments Vic. Just stop. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago

Peter Stroz and Andy McCabe have television gigs.

The FBI and CIA could not help but notice when Trump and Co sought out, met with and established long term relationships with dozens of clandestine agents of Russian State Intelligence Services in the leadup to the 2016 Presidential election. Beginning by at least 2014 and continuing right up to election day in 2016 Trump was in constant secret negotiations with Vladimir Putin to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, even going so far as to offer Putin a luxury penthouse as a bribe. Every professional Intelligence agency in the world including MI6, the GRU and Interpol were aware Trump was colluding with Russia. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2    one month ago

It ain't going to work.  The dems are in for a good beating in November!

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    one month ago

originaloriginal

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    one month ago

Oh it's picture taunting time!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.3    one month ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.5  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.3    one month ago

I see Ron Johnson and Marco Rubio are in trouble now.

Going Down like Hershel Walker, Dr Oz and J D Vance...

Okla nominated Mark Wayne Mullin for the U.S. Senate.

What is up with the gop nominating unelectable scum?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    one month ago

Is that like the Ace of Diamonds?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.6    one month ago

I know from personal experience to always, ALWAYS fact check certain posters because they are prone to posting made up shit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    one month ago
I see Ron Johnson and Marco Rubio are in trouble now.

LMAO!   Where do you get it?   


I don't know about those other races, but Marco Rubio is virtually unbeatable in Florida.

Would you like to make a wager?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.7    one month ago

Yes! Those are the ones who think you won't take the time.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.10  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.8    one month ago

A bet that the gop does not win back control of the Senate? 

Do you not know how poorly Dr Oz is doing in Pennsylvania?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.10    one month ago
I don't know about those other races, but Marco Rubio is virtually unbeatable in Florida.Would you like to make a wager?

Please, inform me what you REALLY think THIS means.

Because I am confident that most people will be comprehending that WAAAAAAY different than you did.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2.10    one month ago

My offer is clear: I have Rubio to win. You have him to lose.

The loser suspends himself from here for a month.

What do you say?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.12    one month ago
What do you say?

Uh, humina, humina, duh, uh, what??

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.13    one month ago

I thought they were still tough in the Bronx.

Like the lil fairy once said "Times are a changin'."

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.14    one month ago
I thought they were still tough in the Bronx.

Maybe folks in the Bronx are still giddy that gas prices were so low weeks ago. Sadly for them, while gas prices came down in almost every other place in the country, they stayed the same in the Bronx!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.15    one month ago

I think you may be on to something there.

I can almost visualize a bar in the Bronx with a few guys thinking of what they can do to amuse themselves without a car.




 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.17  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.12    one month ago

No, bet would be on the gop actually gaining control of the Senate. Equivocation noted...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2.17    one month ago

That is not what it was about. Bull Shit noted...

BTW you can tell your neighbor that I intend to fill your articles will bull shit cartoons like you do.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.19  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.15    one month ago

Gas prices have dropped 70 days in a row!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2.19    one month ago

Who do you think you convinced?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.21  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.18    one month ago

So exactly how will Democrats gaining Senate seats be a beating for Democrats? If the gop does not win back control of the Senate then you will self ban? Isn't that the bet you made?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.2.21    one month ago

So you are down to hoping they hold the Senate. That's possible this year. The Republicans have to defend way too many seats, but there is the Biden performance factor that still may deliver even the Senate to the GOP.

Back to Rubio....You want no part of that bet in hindsight?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.23  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.19    one month ago

except for on the Bronx!l

lol!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.24  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.17    one month ago

ah, now you are simply being obtuse.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.23    one month ago

I tell ya, it's not the same anymore!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.26  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.19    one month ago

so then gas should be around 3.29 or so there in the Bronx, since you claim it was 3.99 a couple months ago. 

Funny. but GasBuddy doesn't list anything that low there .

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.27  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.7    one month ago
ALWAYS fact check certain posters because they are prone to posting made up shit.


Worker drones will do that ......

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.28  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @4.2.19    one month ago

Gas prices still nearly double what they were when Joe took office, after dropping 70 days in a row ...... amazing!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.29  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.27    one month ago

As will political shills.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.30  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.26    one month ago

Oh shit up! Gas Buddy is only advertised prices and does not always get it exactly right. I just filled up for $3.54 at Sunoco in The Bronx. It was $5.59 on June firstmm.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.31  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.30    one month ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.30    one month ago

Like I asked last time you made such a claim. what is the address of this magical station?

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.33  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.32    one month ago

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Texan1211
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4.2.35  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.33    one month ago

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Texan1211
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4.2.36  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.33    one month ago
Removed for context

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bugsy
Professor Participates
4.2.37  bugsy  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    one month ago
Marco Rubio are in trouble now.

Rubio is up 5 points in Florida polls.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.2.38  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.14    one month ago
I thought they were still tough in the Bronx.

Just depends on what pictures of gas station signs they post.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.39  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.30    one month ago

I don't believe that!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
4.2.40  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @4.2.19    4 weeks ago

JBB wrote:

"Gas prices have dropped 70 days in a row!"

Actually..they've appeared to bottom out

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
4.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago
I have the feeling the FBI, Fauci, Biden , etc are not shaking in their boots over threats from the clownish Kevin McCarthy.

So is that why it appears Biden interfered with an FBI investigation and Fauci childishly lashed out on national TV when questioned about his participation in the Gain of Function research?  The FBI, they've proven themselves to be the pathetic version of the Keystone Cops.  Fumbling all over themselves to cover their  asses.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago

We're still waiting on those indictments of the entire Obama administration!!!!!!!!!

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.4    one month ago

So you say. Why didn't Clinesmith get real jail time for lying on a FISA application? The very thing you people on the left said was impossible.

Remember?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Unvaxxed Coast Guard cadets given 24 hours to vacate campus, can’t go to class, change job 

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devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    one month ago

no room in the service for those that can't take an order. too bad.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.1    one month ago

"Dr.   Rochelle Walensky,   director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is getting credit for a mea culpa for  saying  what seems obvious: “For 75 years, the CDC and public health have been preparing for COVID-19, and in our big moment, our performance did not reliably meet expectations,” 

This is a classic act of contrition theater, in which Walensky avoids taking any responsibility for the agency’s failure to understand the threat the nation faced or the CDC’s unfounded “guidance” regarding how to slow the spread of COVID, measures that the agency now acknowledges are flawed."

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
6  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago
"The CCP is America's # 1 enemy."

And the American government that has been going gangbuster bashing and demonizing China and trying its damnedest to provoke it into starting WW3 is China's # 1 enemy, notwithstanding the huge amount of trade between the two countries. 

Good morning, Vic, and good night to me. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    one month ago

You have a good night sir.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    one month ago

Thanks, I did.  It finally got cool, and it's finally raining.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.1    one month ago

In the morning maybe we can talk about setting up a vote on NASA's next mission.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    one month ago

I thought you wanted to talk about the future of NT.  Sure, we can talk about NASA's next mission, but using PNs.  The font for Chat is too small for my waning vision.  By a vote, do you mean a poll?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.3    one month ago

We can discuss both.

I'd like to set up a poll to see how many think NASA going back to another manned moon voyage is worth it?

Appropriate venues:

Americana for the Poll?

Metafield for the future of NT?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    4 weeks ago

Okay, but PN discussion first.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  JohnRussell    one month ago
Andrew Weinstein
@Weinsteinlaw
Happy anniversary to the biggest scandal of the Obama presidency.
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JBB
Professor Principal
7.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one month ago

The Beige Suit of The Apocalypse! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one month ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2    one month ago

What nonsense.  We voted for Joe, not Hunter

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.1    one month ago

You did vote for Joe....and it involves Joe.

Why all the coverup by the media and the FBI?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.2    one month ago

Had nothing to do with President Joe Biden.

There was no cover up by the media and the FBI

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.3    one month ago
Had nothing to do with President Joe Biden.

Hunter paid some of Joe's expenses:

"Text messages reportedly retrieved from Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop indicate that Joe Biden personally benefitted financially from his son’s business dealings, including while the elder Biden was serving as vice president.

“I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,” Hunter Biden wrote to his daughter Naomi in January 2019, the   New York Post   reported over the weekend."




There was no cover up by the media and the FBI

"It’s now clear that the Hunter Biden story was real, with Hunter himself acknowledging a federal probe into his taxes — one that reportedly began in 2018. Really, it was always clear. Yet when  the New York Post broke the details , virtually the entire journalistic establishment and left-wing punditsphere defamed the newspaper, claiming it was passing on Russian “disinformation” or partisan fabrications."




"T he  FBI  slow-walked its investigation into  Hunter Biden’s  laptop, including telling some bureau employees not to look at the hard drive belonging to President  Joe Biden’s  son, according to reported whistleblower disclosures made public by a top Senate Republican."




"Twitter exploded after Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg claimed in a Thursday podcast appearance the  FBI warned Facebook about "Russian propaganda"  before the Hunter Biden laptop story dropped in 2020."




I don't know where you've been?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.2.5  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.4    one month ago

Yet, Joe Biden's tax returns have been made public going back to at least 1992, or for thirty years. So, if you had any proof that Joe Biden ever personally gained financially from Hunter's business dealings and he did not report it, then you have proof Biden committed crimes.

But, you don't. You have baseless accusations!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @7.2.5    one month ago

But again, Hunter admitted he gave money to his father

and BTW

Why else would China give all that money to Hunter. It isn't Hunter who can make US policy.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
7.2.7  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.6    one month ago
Why else would China give all that money to Hunter.

Perhaps for the same reason they fast tracked Ivanka's trademarks. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @7.2.7    4 weeks ago

No Dulay, business investments and influence peddling are much different. You know it too.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
7.2.9  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.8    4 weeks ago

Is it your ridiculous posit that the Chinese merely 'invested' in Ivanka? 

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @7.2.9    4 weeks ago

Oh that's right, Ivanka wasn't making business investments, it was China/ s.


You have to be putting us on. Nobody gets everything backwards!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
7.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.4    4 weeks ago

Hey Vic, where is your clarion call for exposure of the identity of this plethora of alleged whistleblowers? I mean it seems that half of the GOP has cited whistleblowers yet not a peep out of you and yours for 'transparency'.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  JohnRussell    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

'Weingarten is now trying to rewrite history to absolve the union of responsibility for what it did to children and families during the pandemic.'

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What that bastard has done to American kids!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    4 weeks ago

She cares nothing about the kids welfare but only about consolidating her power.

She is a true piece of shit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @9.1    4 weeks ago
She is a true piece of shit.

Many caught the odor.

 
 
 
Thomas
Sophomore Guide
10  Thomas    one month ago

Where to start....

"The FBI colluded with Big Tech to silence news stories before the 2020 election in an effort to control your access to information," McCarthy wrote on Twitter, adding "when Republicans are back in charge, we will hold all of them accountable."

Baseless assertion. What he really meant to say was that Big Tech put out algorithms to help tamp down bald faced lies... The one above is just too general. No specifics. No details. Just "The FBI" (the new boogey man of Trump and his enabling liars) and "Big Tech" aka, any company that has banned "The Donald" and Co. for their untruths, distortions (see above statement) and just plain made up shitstorms in their coffee mugs. If you are practicing you NewSpeak, that statement right there has all the elements. 

The rest of the article.. Ah "Hunter Biden", a man who holds no political office but does happen to be the son of the president. 

Hunter Biden’s financial arrangement with CEFC China Energy show that the Chinese energy conglomerate paid $4.8 million to entities controlled by Hunter Biden and his uncle. The CCP is America's # 1 enemy.

As I am sure that Trump and company will point out, if there is no law against it, pay no mind. Unethical? Immoral? Do it anyway, we will strangle it in the court system and deny we did anything wrong. Doesn't Trump's daughter, who was actually in the government, do business with China? 

 The border patrol has encountered more than 1.8 million illegals in 2022, and there are still two months left to go in the fiscal year. Fentanyl is also flowing across the southern border at an alarming rate. All of this by design.

Prove that the Federal Government is directly involved (that is what "by design" means) in both the number of people trying to gain access to the country AND the flow of fentanyl into the country. 

Garland has tried to intimidate American parents who confront radical school board members.

No. Garland has sought to protect school board members who are confronted by radical, misinformed and/or persistently stupid parents. The overwhelming majority of parents, btw, are content with the education that their children are receiving.

For persuasive vigor, you paper gets an A. For intellectual rigor, an F.  Try coming out of the rabbit hole instead of going more deeply in.

Toodles!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @10    one month ago
What he really meant to say was that Big Tech put out algorithms to help tamp down bald faced lies...

But the truth was tamped down.


 Ah "Hunter Biden", a man who holds no political office but does happen to be the son of the president. 

He's more than that. He made dad rich.


 if there is no law against it,

Oh but there is...Article III, section 3 of the US Constitution.


Prove that the Federal Government is directly involved



And of course any rational human being can see the border is wide open.



Toodles!

The outhouse is that way.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    one month ago

Joe and Jill Biden's taxes for the last fifteen years are available to scrutinize. If Joe "Got Rich" off of anything related to Hunter's business there is no evidence of it. You are make unfounded wild irresponsible accusations with zero evidence to support them. Do you have any evidence Biden committed tax fraud? No! If you do show it now!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    one month ago

Kind of hard to see folks still pretending that no one squashed the Hunter story before the election.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
10.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.2    one month ago

Or daddy's involvement in it all.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.1    one month ago

asking for proof,  the usual standard doesn't apply now?

lmao

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @10.1.1    one month ago
Joe and Jill Biden's taxes for the last fifteen years are available to scrutinize.

Who is scrutinizing anything that has anything to do with Joe Biden?



If Joe "Got Rich" 

As recently as November 2009, Joe Biden's net worth was less than $30,000,  according to CBS , but life post-vice presidency has been quite lucrative for President Obama's former number two. When Biden released his financial disclosures in July of 2019, they showed that he and  his wife Jill  had earned more than $15 million in 2017 and 2018.




HUNTER Biden said he had to give half his salary to Joe and paid thousands for repairs at his father's home, according to leaked emails.





Do you have any evidence Biden committed tax fraud? No! If you do show it now!

Just like you showed us that Trump was a traitor?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.2    one month ago

Sam Harris and a few others were able to admit it:

"Sam Harris, a prominent atheist and liberal podcaster, defended Twitter's censorship of the New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop report just weeks before the 2020 presidential election. He admitted the censorship "absolutely" was a "conspiracy" to prevent  Donald Trump  from winning re-election, but argued it was justified during an interview on the Triggernometry podcast Wednesday."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10.1.3    one month ago

"The Big Guy."

Nobody wants to know.

The FBI even lost the laptop

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.6    one month ago

See. there is always at least one person willing to deal with the consequences of telling the truth!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @10.1.1    one month ago

That’s because they’ve been on the government dole the last 50 years.    Not much to see there.    

Never created anything, only sucked off the government teat ..... until of course his unclaimed side deals Hunter made for him.    I wonder how many mansions shotgun Joe will buy when he’s done.    One each next door to Obama, plus maybe one more ...... just because.

All on a government salary ....... impressive ......

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.8    one month ago

And then there was Bill Maher:

Real Time" host Bill Maher   blasted the widespread suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story during the 2020 presidential election. 

During Friday night's panel discussion, Maher highlighted the controversial comments made by liberal podcaster Sam Harris, who   openly approved of the "conspiracy"   to bury the brewing scandal that implicated then-candidate Joe Biden in order to defeat President Trump on Election Day. 

"Is it okay to have a conspiracy to get rid of Trump?" Maher began. "They were talking about Hunter Biden's laptop, which was a story and now all the mainstream press has finally admitted it was a real story. It was a real laptop."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @10.1.9    one month ago

He was a hack all his life and in 2 years became a millionaire.  As we can all see, he had a beautiful mind /s.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.11    one month ago

Not his whole life, he kicked corn-pops ass ...... jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.10    one month ago

It's surprising that some liberals won't accept what Maher says.

Aren't comedians where most liberals get their news from?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @10.1.13    one month ago

Then he got on a plane and went to jail defending Nelson Mandela.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.14    one month ago

It's so true. There is nothing quite like that little space where they get to spew nasty jokes. For some reason it allows them to finally go to sleep.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.1.17  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.14    one month ago

Yep, ass-clowns like Colbert and such.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @10.1.13    one month ago

Joe was just flexing his white privilege back then, intimidating a young black man.

Sounds racist to me.

At least to some folks standards.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.15    one month ago

I am surprised Joe hasn't yet claimed he was with Hillary on the tarmac, dodging sniper fire. saving her!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.18    one month ago

That was after he & Hillary called them "Super Predators."  I guess Jim Clyburn forgot all that when he instructed all those black South Carolinians to march down to the polls and vote for Joe Biden.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
10.1.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.7    one month ago
The FBI even lost the laptop

It is odd that the laptop is lost but we are to believe they are objective and non-partisan when it comes to other particular "investigations"

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10.1.21    one month ago
It is odd that the laptop is lost but we are to believe they are objective and non-partisan when it comes to other particular "investigations"

Odd?

Or expected?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.23  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.22    one month ago

care to remind everyone who appointed the last FBI director? oh yeah...

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
10.1.24  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.15    one month ago
Then he got on a plane and went to jail defending Nelson Mandela.

Was that before or after he was appointed to the Naval Academy?

 
 
 
Thomas
Sophomore Guide
10.1.25  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    one month ago

Hi, Vic! 

Section 3 Treason

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Ooohhhhhkaaaaaayyyyy.... just wtf do you mean? Your non sequitur is too broad.  This was your response to my

 if there is no law against it,

Are you intimating that (choose one: Joe,Donald) has managed to give sufficient cause to warrant a Treason charge? 

Assuming you are being straight,  this would mean that somehow  Biden has done something akin to 

levying War against them(the United States) , or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

I think that you're straining credulity. Hell, no! You've gone and broke it!

Your link to vote was insufficient to prove that

the Federal Government is directly involved (that is what "by design" means) in both the number of people trying to gain access to the country AND the flow of fentanyl into the country. 

You made the claim 

The border patrol has encountered more than 1.8 million illegals in 2022, and there are still two months left to go in the fiscal year. Fentanyl is also flowing across the southern border at an alarming rate. All of this by design.

You have not shown, by posting a link from the early days of the administration,  that the Biden administration is responsible for both the number of immigrants AND the flow of fentanyl into the country.. You are the person who claimed it was "by design". So it is up to you to demonstrate just how this is occurring. 

The truth was not tamped down, just a lot of bogus, Sucker like Carlson, BS . 

The outhouse is that way

Why, thank you so much. I somehow feel the urge....

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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10.1.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.22    one month ago

Good point.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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10.1.27  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @10.1.23    one month ago

How cute.  You think that matters.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.28  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @10.1.25    one month ago
You have not shown, by posting a link from the early days of the administration,  that the Biden administration is responsible for both the number of immigrants AND the flow of fentanyl into the country.

That I am!

 
 
 
Thomas
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10.1.29  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.28    4 weeks ago
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Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @10.1.23    4 weeks ago
care to remind everyone who appointed the last FBI director? oh yeah..

If you don't know, just Google it.

Personally, I kind of doubt that the Director of the FBI ever even held the laptop, and very well may never have even seen it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11  Sparty On    one month ago

Only thing I don’t like about this is the people’s work won’t get done.    Still.

We are all getting ripped off.   It’s just that some are too stupid to see it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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12  Just Jim NC TttH    one month ago

Well isn't this special...............

P resident Biden on Friday announced his intent to appoint MSNBC analyst Jeremy Bash, who insisted Hunter Biden’s scandalous laptop was Russian disinformation, to the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board.  The authenticity of Biden's laptop has since been verified by numerous news organizations, but Bash was among more than 50 former intelligence officials who previously signed a letter dismissing it as Russian disinformation ahead of the 2020 presidential election. The letter was widely spread in the media despite there being no evidence to substantiate their claims.

 
 

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