Is it safe to use Twitter? Security fears rise after Elon Musk drives off staff

  

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Is it safe to use Twitter? Security fears rise after Elon Musk drives off staff
Elon Musk's two-week management of Twitter has made the platform more vulnerable to fraud and privacy violations by driving away key members of its longtime

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Elon Musk's two-week management of Twitter has made the platform more vulnerable to fraud and privacy violations by driving away key members of its longtime security staff, former Twitter employees and cybersecurity experts said Friday.

The fear that Twitter had become a more dangerous place for scams and the theft of personal information added to a growing sense of chaos around the service, which the tech billionaire bought last month for $44 billion.

Twitter's chief information security officer Lea Kissner and its chief privacy officer Damien Kieran announced their resignations, and they were joined out the door by others who worked on cybersecurity and related teams. Musk a week ago laid off about half of Twitter's workforce, citing financial constraints.

"They're just wounded right now," said Austin Berglas, a former FBI cybersecurity official in New York who's now a consultant at security firm BlueVoyant.

"They've lost a lot of important players on the field, so I think people are going to try to exploit them while they're down," he said.

Berglas said the threats were likely to come from scammers and organized crime, as well as from hostile governments looking to exploit a fluid situation.

San Francisco-based Twitter did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the security situation at the company.

Mountains of information


Twitter stores mountains of personal information, including not just email addresses and passwords but data that's inside its direct-message inboxes — a feature that does not have the end-to-end encryption that helps protect other popular messaging services.

The service for years has relied on its blue-checkmark verification system to increase confidence in the reliability of information on the platform, but impersonations and hoaxes proliferated this week after Musk attempted an overhaul of the system.

At the same time, Twitter is facing increased scrutiny from lawmakers and the Federal Trade Commission, which has a longstanding agreement with Twitter to ensure privacy protections.

Ian Brown, a former senior engineering manager at Twitter, said in an online public discussion Friday that the lack of a fully staffed security team could lead to the site not functioning properly or users losing control of their accounts.

"There are security vulnerabilities happening all the time," Brown said in a Twitter Spaces event.

He echoed a pessimistic view among some Twitter users this week: The service might go down entirely under Musk's ownership. But he said the scams were a more immediate problem.

"Maybe Twitter doesn't go down before every account has been pwned by a crypto scam," he said, using a euphemism for being hacked. Brown didn't respond to a request for comment.

Proofpoint, a company that tracks online fraud, said it had detected a "notable" increase in scammers operating on Twitter including a ruse designed to drain people of their savings.

Sherrod DeGrippo, the vice president of threat research and detection at Proofpoint, said one scam the company has tracked involves fraudsters sending Twitter users bulk direct messages, purportedly offering them work and encouraging them to speak with a young woman on the largely unregulated social media platform Telegram.

But those messages are actually introductions for an elaborate scam that tries to convince people to drain their savings by telling them they're investing in cryptocurrency, DeGrippo said.

Scams were already an issue on Twitter, as they are on many major social media websites. But some changes Musk made opened the door to making them worse.

Verification service


On Friday, Twitter paused the rollout of its Twitter Blue verification service, intended to let users pay $8 a month for a verification badge. Many users who signed up promptly changed their usernames and profile pictures to impersonate famous people and brands, leading to confusion on the site and Twitter to suspend the service.

Marc Rogers, a cybersecurity industry veteran and chief security officer of Q-Net Security, questioned Twitter's decision to roll out such a fundamental change so quickly and with little testing. Trust-and-safety teams exist to prevent that, he said.

"The debacle with the Twitter verification is a really strong indicator as to what can go wrong," Roger said.

"You know, it's comedy to see posts from George Washington, from Jesus, from 'Elon' himself allegedly, but at the same time it's terrifying. Because how do you know what's the truth?" he said.

Rogers said that by leaving users with less protection, the company is taking on greater risk.

"At the end of the day, security staff is not just there to protect the user, although that's like a critical part of it. They're there to protect the company from assault from all sorts of directions," he said. "They're the guardrails that prevent companies from going off those cliffs."

Previous scams and hoaxes


There's precedent for Twitter's use for large-scale scams and hoaxes.

In 2020, in one of the most visible hacks of an American company in years, a handful of cryptocurrency scammers tricked Twitter employees into giving them access to key company controls. They proceeded to take over many of the highest profile accounts on the site, including Musk's and now-President Joe Biden's, forcing those accounts to post a request for bitcoin.

"When the verified Twitter users got hacked a few months ago, it was only a bitcoin scam, right?" Rogers said. "But think about the possibilities of if you can take control of the voices of some of the most influential people in the world. It is actually kind of terrifying just how bad it could be."

In 2013, hackers took control of an Associated Press account and sent a false tweet about explosions at the White House, causing a sudden drop in the stock market.

Some cybersecurity experts have openly speculated how Twitter Blue could be used for nefarious purposes. Alex Stamos, a founder partner of the cybersecurity company the Krebs Stamos group and a former chief security officer of Facebook, theorized that North Korean hackers known as the Lazarus Group could shift their attention from cryptocurrency scams to Twitter-based stock manipulation.

"Gosh, would be a good time to have one of the world's experts on finding state-sponsored info ops on staff," he added.

Inside the operation


Some former Twitter employees have previously warned about the platform's security. Peiter Zatko, a widely respect cybersecurity veteran who was previously Twitter's head of cybersecurity, testified before the Senate in September that the platform was "a decade behind industry security standards."

And the company has dealt with spies on its own payroll. In August, a jury found a former Twitter employee guilty of spying on Saudi Arabian dissidents and passing their personal information to the Saudi government.

Berglas, the former FBI official, said he feared Twitter now has less capacity to catch such a person.

"You're losing eyes on the interior, making sure that new employees are vetted appropriately," he said.

"From a security perspective, it's pretty dire," he added. "When you fire so many folks in the security department at once, and then you've got some senior brass leaving, it's concerning."


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igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
1  igknorantzrulz    2 weeks ago

Oh cmon, what could go wrong in a place and time filled with misinformation….?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
1.1  MrFrost  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1    2 weeks ago

True. I use Twitter quite a bit and never once have I taken news information from there as 'fact'. I see someone say something, I go look it up to see if it's true or BS. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1    2 weeks ago

I was on twitter 10 or 12 years ago to taunt bill o'reilly, until he blocked me, then I never went back.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 weeks ago

I hadn't been on twitter in quite some time but when I was just looking at stuff for an article I just posted about the trumpturd running again and his new slogan MAGAGA and I got on with no problem whatsoever.  Not that I cared if I did or not.  

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
2  al Jizzerror    2 weeks ago

I have never trusted Twitter.

It's all about money for Elon Musk.

He gladly collects eight bucks from anyone stupid enough to buy the "blue check".

When someone pays the $8, Twitter receives their account information.

Twitter can sell that personal information.

So it provides a new revenue stream.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  al Jizzerror @2    2 weeks ago

 I subscribed to Twitter years ago and never used it again. There were just two many nut cases and I just did not enjoy using it. They always seemed to want money for something or other.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @2    2 weeks ago

LOL, that prick will probably end up on a slab...  bfd.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
3  Thrawn 31    2 weeks ago

I always thought Twitter was dumb and Musk somewhat of arrogant prick so I am enjoying this very much. I think Twitter and Facebook need to go into the dustbin of history ( social media has been terrible for us as a species) and watching Musk be drug back to earth and being very publicly shown to not be nearly and smart and savy as he thinks he is is good for everyone.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Quiet
3.1  squiggy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3    2 weeks ago
( social media has been terrible for us as a species)

+10

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
4  Hallux    2 weeks ago

Or as a cynic might put it, freedom of speech is an abrogation of freedom to think.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5  Ender    2 weeks ago

Musk is a self centered jackass.

Someone created a parody account of a Senator and musk basically laughed at him.

Someone made a parody account of Musk and he deleted and banned the account.

He is a hypocritical dick and I hope he loses everything.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @5    2 weeks ago
Musk is a self centered jackass.

So many a the most successful are.

He is a hypocritical dick and I hope he loses everything.

I hope that doesn’t mean that we lose the capabilities of his innovations.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Ender  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1    2 weeks ago

His innovations? I wonder about that. There is a team of people that work on things. He didn't do it all on his lonesome. 

I had to laugh. I just noticed we have a tesla charging station at our shopping district. I saw one car, don't know if it was just parked by it or what. Drove by again and no cars there and the shopping was packed (so much for Biden hurting people).

Funny he thinks there are that many tesla drivers in the very red state of MS.

I question his actual decision making as he gets older. His megalomania seems to be getting in his way.

I think he also lost about half of his worth.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
I wonder about that. There is a team of people that work on things. He didn't do it all on his lonesome. 

Of course not, nether the less, no one else has that string of accomplishments.

 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ender @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

... never the less, no one else could make twitter hemorrhage cash value like he has.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

Is that a win for income inequality?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Ender  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1    2 weeks ago

I wonder what his innovations are. None that I use everyday.

Now that everyone is makings EVs he no longer has a niche market, plus most of his clientele were of the more liberal persuasion, not exactly a smart move to alienate his base. he got his original money from selling paypal, which I have never used. Some executive said the other day his self driving vehicles should never be allowed on the road...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

or Tesla...

November 2021, over $900 a share.

November 2022, under $200 a share.

Way to go Ego Musk!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

Exactly, he should have never gotten into the EV business.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @5.1.5    2 weeks ago
Some executive said the other day his self driving vehicles should never be allowed on the road...

Well there you go, can’t get more persuasive than that, thanks for the insight.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.9  Ender  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

What has he done for you?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.7    2 weeks ago
Exactly, he should have never gotten into the EV business.

No, that's not it.

He never should have had the thought that he alone had the answers

to free speech on the internet.  That he alone could fix something like Twitter

or social media sites like it.

He should have stuck to mechanical things like EVs and rocket ships.

His own words and actions are undermining his ability to raise more money

for Tesla or other ventures while the Twitter events may prove to be his own

personal Waterloo...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
He never should have had the thought that he alone had the answers

to free speech on the internet.  That he alone could fix something like Twitter

or social media sites like it.

His success or failure with Twitter means little to me, what does it mean to you?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @5.1.9    2 weeks ago
Starlink is providing high-speed internet in remote and rural areas across the world.
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Ender  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.12    2 weeks ago

For free? I doubt it.

I also would never have satellite tv because you could not always rely on it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @5.1.13    2 weeks ago
For free? I doubt it

So far he has provided it to Ukraine for free while denying its use to Russia.

Musk's Starlink Is Free To Ukrainians But Government Says They Are Looking For Alternatives (ibtimes.com)

I also would never have satellite tv because you could not always rely on it

True, even the multiple eye/multiple satellite systems are vulnerable during large weather events. ("unreliable") 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.15  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.14    2 weeks ago

I did read about Ukraine. He was wanting the government to take over the cost or something.

A satellite phone did work on Jurassic Park...jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.16  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @5.1.15    2 weeks ago

As usual, you are very well informed.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
5.1.17  al Jizzerror  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.12    2 weeks ago
Starlink is providing high-speed internet in remote and rural areas across the world.

Ukraine is using Starling for communication for free.

Musk threatened to pull the plug in Ukraine then announced he wouldn't.

I think Biden may have threatened to nationalize Starlink if Musk pulled the plug on Ukraine.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.1.17    2 weeks ago
I think Biden may have threatened to nationalize Starlink if Musk pulled the plug on Ukraine.

Would that be legal or doesn’t Biden care?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
5.1.19  al Jizzerror  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.18    2 weeks ago
Would that be legal

Starlink was being by Ukrainian forces for communication and intel purposes.

It was the best way to monitor Russian troop movements

Starlink was also being used (Internet access and comms) by civilians in Ukraine. 

An argument made that Starlink is a national security issue.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.1.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.1.19    2 weeks ago
An argument made that Starlink is a national security issue.

Perhaps for the Ukraine.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.21  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.18    2 weeks ago

Well, Musk threatened to pull the plug if the Pentagon wouldn't start

paying the Starlink bills for Ukraine.

Do you think that's legal?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.22  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

A thought crossed my mind. If he owns the satellites and runs them, if the government paid for it, wouldn't that then make it a government run institute and take away Musk having any oversight of it, basically butting him out of his own company.

I am not sure how all that works.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

I agree with everything you say here - makes so much sense and people go on and on and on and on and on about him being so goddamned wonderful.

That megalomania and move to the dark side negates all of his so called innovations and alleged humanitarianism as far as I'm concerned.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.14    2 weeks ago
"So far he has provided it to Ukraine for free while denying its use to Russia."

Well that is something that he definitely deserves credit for.  That's something decent that he's doing.

Let us know when he starts charging though!"

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.21    2 weeks ago
"Well, Musk threatened to pull the plug if the Pentagon wouldn't start

paying the Starlink bills for Ukraine.

Do you think that's legal?"

I take back what I said before.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1.27  Ronin2  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.1.17    2 weeks ago
I think Biden may have threatened to nationalize Starlink if Musk pulled the plug on Ukraine.

The first, last, and only resort of all Fascists. Nationalize it!

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1.28  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

Yes, or do you think private corporations always give their services away for a complete loss?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.29  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.28    2 weeks ago

Complete loss?  That requires some context.

From the guy that "owns" Tesla, a company that hasn't shown a profit in 15 years and he has publicly vowed it won't for a long time.

SpaceX, zero profits.

He was donating StarLink to Ukraine to boost his image and promote StarLink. Period.

Starlink is nearly profitable already and Musk expects it to support his entire portfolio by 2025 to the tune of 30 Billion a year.

Poor Elon...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.29    2 weeks ago

Some folks pretend to know what they're talking about.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.31  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.30    2 weeks ago

Yesterday Musk dared his remaining 4,000 employees to knuckle down to his

new rules by 5PM today or quit with 3 months' severance.

Today over 2,000 employees took Musk up on his kind offer.

Somehow, rather incredibly, Musk and his new leadership team were taken off

guard.

In less than three weeks, Elon has lost most of Twitter's advertising and

somewhat inadvertently trimmed his payroll by up to 90%

and workforce by 75% to 80%.

Elon seems to be taking a page out of Charie Sheen' "winning" playbook./s

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
5.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @5    2 weeks ago

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igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
5.2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Raven Wing @5.2    2 weeks ago

I would agree

hes an arrogant prick as well

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

Exactly, and with so little to be arrogant about.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
5.2.3  Raven Wing  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.1    2 weeks ago
hes an arrogant prick as well

Hey Iggy!  And I agree totally. He has let his over zealous ego get the best of him this time and it is time he paid the price. Like many others, he will rue the day he sold his soul to the Devil, better known as Donald J Trump.

And it couldn't happen to a better person imo.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
5.2.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.2    2 weeks ago

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MrFrost
Professor Principal
5.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.2    2 weeks ago

Exactly, and with so little to be arrogant about.

Agreed. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.2    2 weeks ago

I want to thank you for making this article & the comments contained within it so amusing.

If I could stop laughing, I'd turn on Bret Baier.

Have a good night.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.6    2 weeks ago

Before you go, could you help me out?

Please translate post 5.2.4 into something that at least is remotely related to making sense.

 
 
 
GregTx
Junior Participates
5.2.8  GregTx  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.5    2 weeks ago

Exactly,  he didn't build that...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.9  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.7    2 weeks ago

About the umpteenth time you made basically that same comment about one of Iggy's comments it became blase...

That was like two years and five hundred times ago. It has zero impact anymore!

You really need to get some new material.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.9    2 weeks ago
You really need to get some new material.

Like fake gas stations in the Bronx and dumbfuck claims of voter suppression?

[deleted]

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
5.2.11  Raven Wing  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.7    2 weeks ago

I have no trouble understanding Iggy's comments, and find his comments to be very interesting and informative in many ways. And other seem to find his comments easy to follow as well.

I think the problem you have in understanding them lies solely with you. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
5.2.12  pat wilson  replied to  Raven Wing @5.2.11    2 weeks ago

Most of them are hilarious.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
5.2.13  Raven Wing  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.12    2 weeks ago

Yes indeed. And I love the way he writes. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
5.2.14  al Jizzerror  replied to  Raven Wing @5.2.13    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.15  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.7    2 weeks ago

Supposedly, it's a kind of cute code. A few on the left pretend to understand it and we get the forced laugh or thumbs up.

Noobody can figure it out and it makes no sense.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @5.2.9    2 weeks ago

It takes wit and intelligence to get iggy.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.15    2 weeks ago

Like I said Vic and Tex - it takes wit and intelligence to get iggy.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6  Kavika     2 weeks ago

It's not just staff that he is driving off but also his advertisers.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
6.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Kavika @6    2 weeks ago

The smarter ones

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
7  evilgenius    2 weeks ago

I had Twitter, but as soon as Musk fired half the staff I deleted my account. Now's he's saying bankruptcy could be an option?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
7.1  Raven Wing  replied to  evilgenius @7    2 weeks ago
Now's he's saying bankruptcy could be an option?

Which goes to show that he is not as savvy a businessman as he thinks he is. And that's what he gets for trying to be like his hero Trump. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
8  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Seeing the freak out over Twitter is something. The left is outraged over an American company trying to build a platform with transparent fee speech policies and protections while it’s house multi national corporations are pulling advertising from Twitter in favor of sites like tik tok, which is literally used by the ccp to spy on Americans.  

lesson from democrats and corporations: free speech :bad, supporting China spying on Americans :good.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
8.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    2 weeks ago

Transparent free speech policies….WTF ?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
8.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.1    2 weeks ago

Yeah, trying to move away from a model where they censor true stories in service of the Democratic Party. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
8.1.2  al Jizzerror  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
Yeah, trying to move away from a model where they censor true stories in service of the Democratic Party. 

Derp.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
8.2  al Jizzerror  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    2 weeks ago
lesson from democrats and corporations: free speech :bad, supporting China spying on Americans :good.

Derp.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9  Trout Giggles    2 weeks ago

Musk comes from a wealthy family. I don't think he's ever actually invented or developed anything but he did have the brains to hire the best and brightest to build his companies

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    2 weeks ago

A thought hit me a little while back.

It is almost like he works on something then moves on to another thing when he is only halfway done with the first.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @9.1    2 weeks ago

I think he's on the autism scale so it may be hard for him to stay focused

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @9.1    2 weeks ago

He has the most outrageous compensation package from Tesla.

Zero salary. Various performance bonuses and stock options 

to the tune of $55Billion

because the Tesla Board describes Musk as a serial Entrepeneur

who has trouble staying focused on one project at a time.

This compensation is to lead an EV maker that hasn't made money in 15 years

and Musk says he doesn't plan to let it for the foreseeable future.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    2 weeks ago

Yes his father owned an emerald mine.  You are exactly right, as usual TG.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

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magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
11  magicschoolbusdropout    2 weeks ago

Is It Safe To Use Twitter? Security Fears Rise After Elon Musk Drives Off Staff

If you actually read through the article and the "When it happened", how could it be any worse if the Pre-Musk people that didn't do a great Job in the first place (according to the article), are being fired by Musk now ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1  Tessylo  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @11    2 weeks ago

They were doing a good job.  Musk has no clue what he's talking about.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
11.1.1  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @11.1    2 weeks ago
They were doing a good job. 

Maybe, just maybe .... Read and Comprehend what the article actually says before commenting ?

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
12  freepress    2 weeks ago

Sadly people have been programmed to believe that  money equals brains and that rich people are not to be questioned on their competency. Inherited wealth isn't an indicator of intelligence. I think his marital woes and family issues have actually hit him hard and his behavior that is clearly heading in the self destruct direction indicates he needs personal help. Throwing his money away isn't going to help his personal life at all. 

 
 

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