Biden admin quietly admits canceling Keystone XL Pipeline cost thousands of jobs, billions of dollars | Fox News

We should also consider how much this may have cost every energy consumer whether at the gas pump, heating their homes, or just how much these higher energy costs have driven inflation higher. It probably cost US Citizens Trillions even if it would only have lowered US energy prices 3%.

The only thing they "considered" was that the previous administration set this up so they had to take it down. 

Well it was the same argument prior to the previous Administration

and the same misguided argument about "loss"

which led that Administration to kill the project in 2015.

So it's a democrat thing to kill jobs.  Not that it's a surprise

No Jeremy, it's a leadership responsibility, at least that's what Reagan & Bush said

when they started the whole BRAC fiasco, not just killing jobs but whole communities,

towns and regions, killing historical military legacy and giving away prime real estate,

because supposedly we didn't need it anymore.

There is an existing Keystone pipeline,

and it has been determined several times before

that we did not need to build a shortcut across our best farms,

over the nation's largest aquifer

to help the Canadians save a little time & money

while the RISK remains solidly on US soil.

The Keystone Pipeline Is A Lemon. It Just Leaked Again for the 22nd Time | Pipeline Fighters Hub

The more beneficial phases of the pipeline from

Cushing OK to Nederland TX and Houston TX were  built under a

Democrat Administration creating many of those temporary construction

jobs.

Keystone XL Pipeline Map

The proposed Keystone XL extension actually comprised two segments. The first, a southern leg, had already been completed and now runs between Cushing, Oklahoma, and Port Arthur, Texas. Opponents of this project—now called the Gulf Coast Pipeline—say that TC Energy took advantage of legal loopholes to push the pipeline through, obtaining authorization under a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers nationwide permit and dodging the more rigorous vetting process for individual permits, which requires public input. The second segment was the hotly contested 1,209-mile northern leg—a shortcut of sorts—that would have run from Hardisty, Alberta, through Montana and South Dakota to Steele City, Nebraska.

But don't let facts keep you from making wild sweeping generalizations.

it's a leadership responsibility

Yo are correct.  It was a leadership failure in 2015 and in 2021.  Just as you stated.  Just happens that in BOTH instances, democrats were those "leaders" and thousands of jobs were lost.

Don't let facts get in your way when spinning bullshit. 

Don't let facts get in your way when spinning bullshit.

How ironic.

Companies in Alberta Canada would be the ultimate beneficiaries of any pipeline designed to take tar sands from Alberta Canada to  Houston TX to be refined into kerosene products bound for China.

The only US Benefits might have been from the construction phase and the refining phase.

Refining Tar Sands Oil into kerosene would not have affected gasoline prices anywhere.

Meanwhile the risks would have overwhelmingly been borne by Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas, the notorious "second leg" and TC Energy has had a long history of oil spills.

Keystone XL Pipeline Environmental Impact

Leaks and the pipeline

Tar sands oil is thicker, more acidic, and more corrosive than lighter conventional crude, and this ups the likelihood that a pipeline carrying it will leak . Indeed, one study found that between 2007 and 2010, pipelines moving tar sands oil in Midwestern states spilled three times more per mile than the U.S. national average for pipelines carrying conventional crude. Since it first went into operation in 2010, TC Energy’s original Keystone Pipeline System has leaked more than a dozen times ; one incident in North Dakota sent a 60-foot, 21,000-gallon geyser of tar sands oil spewing into the air. Less than two years before the project was finally pulled, the Keystone tar sands pipeline was temporarily shut down after a spill in North Dakota of reportedly more than 378,000 gallons in late October 2019 . And the risk that Keystone XL would have spilled was heightened because of the extended time the pipe segments were left sitting outside in stockpiles. “A study published in early 2020, co-authored by TC Energy’s own scientists, found that the anti-corrosion coating on the project’s pipes was damaged from being stored outside and exposed to the elements for the last decade,” notes NRDC senior attorney Jaclyn Prange , who spent years working on KXL litigation.

The Keystone XL Pipeline: Everything You Need To Know | NRDC

So the story is somewhat like complaining about not winning the lottery because one had not bought a ticket.

It avoided much more damage than it would have "benefited" the USA.

Existing pipelines have since been shown up to the task.

Half of all crude oil pipelines across the United States are not being utilized amid lower fossil fuel production following the outbreak of the global coronavirus pandemic, energy consultancy Wood Mackenzie has reported as  quoted  by Reuters.

Prior to the pandemic, the utilization rate of U.S. oil pipelines stood at 60 to 70 percent, but now it’s down to 50 percent as production dropped from a record 13 million bpd to 11 million bpd.

The average, however, is not distributed equally across the country’s oil fields. The Gray Oak Pipeline in the Permian, for example, is being utilized at 94 percent, according to Wood Mac’s head of oil data, Ryan Saxton. The BridgeTex pipeline, which ships oil from Midland and Colorado City to Houston, is being utilized at 70 percent of its capacity.

Half Of U.S. Oil Pipelines Sit Empty | OilPrice.com

We should also consider how much this may have cost every energy consumer whether at the gas pump, heating their homes, or just how much these higher energy costs have driven inflation higher.

In America?  Answer is ZERO.  This is Canadian oil, going to the international market, just cutting across America's backyard to get there.

Here's a question for you.  How much money will Biden be saving from the cost of cleaning up spills and leaks from this Canadian pipeline?

This is Canadian oil, going to the international market, just cutting across America's backyard to get there.

No, most of Alberta's  bitumen is refined in the US  after transport by pipeline, rail or marine capability.

No

Yes.

Canadian oil, taking up at least one of our refineries, to be sold internationally.  America gets nothing from it except clean up costs.

The Keystone pipeline leaked in Kansas .

It's been over a week since TC Energy announced its Keystone pipeline leaked into Mill Creek in Washington County, Kan. Nearly 600,000 gallons of oil spilled into the waterway as well as the land surrounding it. Environmental advocates say this is just the beginning of a cleanup that will likely take years.

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 14,000 Barrels of Oil in Kansas

This is the largest onshore crude pipeline spill in nine years and the biggest in the system’s history

Keystone pipeline raises concerns after third major spill in five years

How much money will Biden be saving from the cost of cleaning up spills and leaks from this Canadian pipeline?

Since it is still moving by rail and OTR truck to US ports; and then heading to China and Europe. Not much.

See post 10.1.6 to see just some of the train derailments involving Canadian Tar Sand Oil; and the amounts involved. I am sure Buffet and Soros are thrilled with Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine's decision.

Uh oh, his handlers aren’t gonna like that ....

Biden does this as the nimbys fight against Vineyard Wind and it's offshore power generation effort - a fight that goes back to Ted Killer Kennedy.

"Interesting' hit piece with zero links to the report but awash with links to the author's other opinions which by golly are a never ending wash, rince, repeat cycle. Not a good look fellas.

Canceling the Keystone XL Pipeline has no positive impact on the environment and might have a negative one:

• Cancelation won't decrease oil demand
• Cancelation won't decrease Alberta oil sand development 
• Cancelation won't decrease amount of oil sands refined in the US
• Cancelation will mean oils sands are shipped to refineries by truck and rail
• Pipelines result in less spillage than trains or trucks and require less energy to move the oil

Was there a link to this

I would take issue with the last two bullet points.

Do you think that the amount of oil sands refined in the US has declined instead of grown?  If a additional pipeline isn’t available, truck and train is the only substitute.

Despite the current Keystone pipeline having been built exclusively to move bitumen products and TCEnergy's plans to try to double up the entire length of the pipeline capacity,

the current Keystone pipeline runs under capacity all of the time.

Truck and rail is unnecessary.

In the first quarter of 2022 they pumped 610,000 barrels per day.

In the second Quarter 2022 they pumped 622,000 barrels per day.

In November 2022 they pumped over 700,000 barrels per day as part of a test.

In December they returned to 622,000 barrels per day until 12/07/2022

when there was a major blow out in a field in Kansas which reportedly lost 660,000 gallons, probably more.

As previously stated elsewhere and acknowledged in the Federal report, there are only 138 refineries, and they don't need more pipelines. 

If we built more pipelines to create more temporary construction jobs, how many truckers and railroad people does that put out of work permanently?

No good deed goes unpunished.

The report also enumerated how carriers and refineries worked together from 2010 to 2022 to convert underused pipelines by converting them to carry bitumen or reversing the flow of other products through existing lines.

Since we are now exporting domestic oil and natural gas, why do we need to bend over to Canada's wishes to help them get their exports to the international market?

At the same time, we are the ones that suffer when their pipeline leaks here

over and over again.

there was a major blow out in a field in Kansas which reportedly lost 660,000 gallons, probably more.

I wonder how many derailed tank cars or wrecked semi tanker trailers that represents. my nephew in houston has something to do with managing pipeline logistics for a major oil company. he's also a diehard republican. he told me keystone was unnecessary and only benefited a handful of investors.

Despite the current Keystone pipeline having been built exclusively to move bitumen products and TCEnergy's plans to try to double up the entire length of the pipeline capacity,

the current Keystone pipeline runs under capacity all of the time.

Truck and rail is unnecessary.

TCE must have wanted to just waste money.

Corporations do it all the time under the guise of investment.

TCE now has easements all across the proposed path to sell or reuse.

Truck and rail is unnecessary.

Do some research. Pipelines cannot support all of the tar sand oil being shipped from Canada.

when there was a major blow out in a field in Kansas which reportedly lost 660,000 gallons, probably more.

nationalgeographic

reuters

america.aljazeera

pugetsoundkeeper

resilience

apnews

Rail is just so much safer./S I didn't even list all of the train derailments involving Canadian Tar Sand Oil. Just the ones at the top of my internet browser. I am sure I could dig an find more. Rail tanker cars are old; and haven't been well maintained. They are risky moving anything- much the less Canadian Tar Sand Oil.

sdnewswatch

marketwatch

If we built more pipelines to create more temporary construction jobs, how many truckers and railroad people does that put out of work permanently?

Please, there is a shortage of truckers and rail workers.

washingtonpost

politico

Guess that blows your worry right out of the water. Easing the amount of tar sands transported by rail and OTR would free up a good portion of our supply chain capacity.

As previously stated elsewhere and acknowledged in the Federal report, there are only 138 refineries, and they don't need more pipelines. 

We need more refineries; but mighty mental midget Democrats have made it financially unfeasible to start up refineries; or bring ones that have been shut down back online due to government and environmental restrictions.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Especially when Democrats are in charge.

Since we are now exporting domestic oil and natural gas, why do we need to bend over to Canada's wishes to help them get their exports to the international market?

At the same time, we are the ones that suffer when their pipeline leaks here

over and over again.

Instead of processing the Canadian Tar Sand Oil here; it is now going directly to China and Europe. It still passes through the US and gets loaded on overseas tankers to China and Europe- just watch for the next major train derailment involving them. If we are lucky it will take place in Canada.

spglobal

euractiv

Guess the US doesn't need the processing money (or the tax money gained from it). We are just providing the ports and loading facilities. 

Pipelines cannot support all of the tar sand oil being shipped from Canada.

And our refineries don't need it.  It's no good for gasoline, only kerosene which is exported to India and China.

Rail is just so much safer./S

Never said that but that is another reason that rail only accounts for 4% of all oil transport. 

Please, there is a shortage of truckers and rail work

Maybe a shortage of people who want to work.  There are 8 million people voluntarily out of work and 10 million job openings.  including hundreds if not thousands of openings at CBP.  Nobody wants those jobs regardless of the pay

Instead of processing the Canadian Tar Sand Oil here; it is now going directly to China and Europe. It still passes through the US and gets loaded on overseas tankers to China and Europe

Fine by me, just pay the tariffs on the way through, as I said we can only make so much kerosene here.

- just watch for the next major train derailment involving them. If we are lucky it will take place in Canada.

Yes, so much better than Kansas farmlands that the Keystone has ruined.

Guess the US doesn't need the processing money (or the tax money gained from it). We are just providing the ports and loading facilities. 

All covered gloomy Gus. No one skips payment regardless of which country is involved.

Oil Industry Taxes: A Cash Cow For Government | Tax Foundation

U.S. Energy Information Administration - EIA - Independent Statistics and Analysis

120122-Oil and Gas Tax Revenue (texas.gov)

The Union of Concerned Scientists must have got it wrong:

Bitumen is made of hydrocarbons—the same molecules in liquid oil—and is used to produce gasoline and other petroleum products.

What do those woke do gooder climate change believers know? lol

Bitumen - Production, Extraction, Uses, Prices and FAQs (vedantu.com)

Can bitumen be refined into gasoline?

Bitumen is made of hydrocarbons—the same molecules in liquid oil—and is used to produce gasoline and other petroleum products. Extracti ng bitumen from tar sands—and refining it into products like gasoline—i s significantly costlier and more difficult than extracting and refining liquid oil .

What Is Bitumen Made From? – Bescord

Expense is what drives business, why bother turning a barrel of bitumen into 2 gallons of gasoline when you can take a standard 42 gallon barrel of light crude to produce 20 gallons of gasoline and 20 gallons of diesel fuel?

Bitumen depending on the grade can yield about 20 gallons of Deisel and 20 gallons of asphalt

Very few western Canadian refineries can refine Canandian crude and none of their eastern refineries which is why Canada needs US Mid West and Gulf State refineries.

What do those woke do gooder climate change believers know? lol

Exactly, or the Encyclopedia Britannica:

However, most of the bitumen extracted from Canada’s oil sands is upgraded into   synthetic  crude oil and sent to refineries for conversion into a full range of petroleum products, including  gasoline .

And BTW, we certainly don't need anymore asphalt.

And BTW, we certainly don't need anymore asphalt.

India loves that stuff, every road, most shoes, roofing.

We need to outlaw asphalt shingles and go back to brick roads.

LoL, I hear you about shingles.

The future is in solar/ceramic roofing tiles, more or less permanent.

Certainly not as flammable.

People do like those quiet highways though.

Brick done well is more tolerable than cobblestones though.

The Keystone XL pipeline extension, proposed by TC Energy (then TransCanada) in 2008, was initially designed to transport the planet’s dirtiest fossil fuel , tar sands oil, to market—and fast. As an expansion of the company’s existing Keystone Pipeline System, which has been operating since 2010 (and continues to send Canadian tar sands crude oil from Alberta to various processing hubs in the middle of the United States), the pipeline promised to dramatically increase capacity to process the 168 billion barrels of crude oil locked up under Canada’s boreal forest. It was expected to transport 830,000 barrels of Alberta tar sands oil per day to refineries on the Gulf Coast of Texas. From the refineries, the oil would be sent chiefly overseas—not to gasoline pumps in the United States.

nrdc

I recommend you read the entire article.

This is truly the biggest news story on this site. The fact that this agency finally admitted, however tepidly, what Joe Biden did to the nation's energy production.

The fact that this agency finally admitted, however tepidly, what Joe Biden did to the nation's energy production.

But you notice how many are trying to spin it to be something else?

This is truly the biggest news story on this site.

I guess that is a personal opinion.

The fact that this agency finally admitted, however tepidly, what Joe Biden did to the nation's energy production.

First there is no admission of anything.

Second, they repeated numbers from the Perryman Groups estimates 12 years ago 

and this tepid board which included 7 Dems and & Republicans admits that those estimates were flawed

and current events render the economic impact inconclusive.

Third, not building this particular section, in their conclusions, affected production not at all.

it would be nice if someone around here would read the actual report and not the knuckleheaded

conclusions of  Sen Daimes, repeated by every anti Biden site in the world.

12.23.22-KXL-Pipeline-Job-Loss-and-Impacts-on-Consumer-Energy-Costs-001245.pdf (senate.gov)

Now the sections that Obama permitted were very beneficial for Texas and the nation in general as far as

vastly improving the pipeline highways but he got zero press at the time, probably never will.