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By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  123 comments

Considering the source
To have a low confidence assessment leaked within 24 hours of the strike is irresponsible" ...former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice


Last night following a fiery Pentagon briefing, Bret Baier interviewed the former Secretary of State (and currently a Stanford Professor) Condoleezza Rice. She told Baier that
the United States and Israel’s strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities are a significant moment for the Middle East (a reset for the middle east) and a sign of bolstered American credibility on the global stage. She called the media's release of low confidence assessments within 24 hours of the strike "irresponsible."

Ex-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice calls US strikes on Iran a 'shot in the arm' for American credibility



Oddly enough, despite a cease fire and a prospective peace deal between Iran and Israel after Iran lost both its nuclear program and its military capabilities, the American left is angry. Suddenly they are saying things like the US bombing strike wasn't successful, we got a guy from our side who leaked from the Pentagon, and he says you didn't do it, the Iranians say you didn't do it. So, they are kind of rooting for America's enemy's vs Trump. What the media is not telling the American people is that Trump will be President for 3 more years and Netanyahu is likely to be Israel's Prime Minister for a good deal of that time, and they will have their thumb on Iran. Iran would need to spend billions to rebuild their nuclear program and if the regime survives it will have to explain to the Iranian people why it needs to do it after the current nuclear program went up in smoke.

The good news for the middle east and the entire world is that Iran knows that as long as the US President's name is Donald Trump and Israel's Prime Minister is Benjamin Netanyahu, this is not the end. If there is an attempt to rebuild that nuclear program it will be taken out again. It is just the end of the beginning.



In the news:

Today is the final day of the SCOTUS current session. Six decisions are expected including limits on the authority of district court judges. Release begins at 10:00 AM EST. Yesterday the Court ruled that federal law doesn’t allow health care providers or patients to sue if a state violates a provision of federal law guaranteeing that Medicaid patients can visit their preferred provider.

Centrifuges at Iran’s Fordo enrichment plant are no longer operational the head of the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog said. Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, climbed out of the bunker he has been hiding in and basically played down damage to his country’s nuclear program. Iran’s foreign minister, however, said the nuclear facilities had sustained significant and serious damage.

The Senate received classified intelligence on the Iran strike. Today the House will also have a closed session brief.


The Senate Parliamentarian has once again sent Republican Senators scrambling to amend the Big Beautiful Bill.

The Trump administration indicated that it intends to once again deport Kilmar Armando Garcia to a country other than El Salvador.

Mayor Eric Adams, who is running for re-election as an independent, met with New York City business leaders who were concerned about the strong possibility of a Socialist becoming mayor of NYC. Businesses may flee the big apple.



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Good morning and welcome to the news.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
we got a guy from our side who leaked from the Pentagon, and he says you didn't do it, the Iranians say you didn't do it.

It was revealed that one of these "anonymous sources" was a CNN blogger who had contributed to the report without actual knowledge of what was going on.  This same blogger was also involved in the "Hunter Laptop" lie that was pushed. 

As far as the Pentagon leaker, last I heard there was an investigation into who released classified information.  I don't see that investigation just going away like we've seen under previous administrations.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    last year

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This is the CNN reporter , Natasha Bertrand who passed on inaccurate information about the US military strikes on the nuclear facilities in Iran. She's the same reporter who called Hunter Biden's laptop Russian disinformation.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

If she printed classified material charge her with treason.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @2.1.1    last year

I am all for that.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

I assume any article authored by her is simply propaganda, she’s not a serious reporter.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    last year

In the days of Edward R Murrow, she probably wouldn't have been trusted to deliver newspapers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    last year

In the days of Edward R Murrow, right wing media wouldnt have been trusted to deliver toilet paper. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.6  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    last year

Is that because back then there were more centrists and "both-siders"?....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    last year


"The law firm that represented Hunter Biden  in two federal trials  sued  him on Monday, alleging he failed to pay at least $50,000 in legal fees.

Winston & Strawn recently filed a lawsuit in the Superior Court of the  District of Columbia , arguing Biden's failure to pay despite the law firm's repeated requests amounts to a breach of contract. He owes upward of $50,000 as of April 30, the court filing notes."

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Law firm sues Hunter Biden over $50,000 in unpaid legal fees

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    last year

The money flow seems to have slowed since daddy is no longer in office or "influential".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    last year

Maybe there will be some accountability.

I love that he even screwed the lawyers!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    last year
I love that he even screwed the lawyers!

That was kind of expected.  Remember we are talking about a crackhead.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    last year

That would explain taking a damning laptop to a computer repair shop and forgetting all about it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Following the uncovering of a  massive bribery scandal  at USAID, the Small Business Administration (SBA) is ordering a full audit of all government contracting officers who have exercised grant-awarding authority under the agency’s business development program over the last 15 years.

In a letter obtained by Fox News Digital, SBA Administrator Kelly Loeffler said the scale of the  USAID fraud  is a "damning reflection of systemic failures in oversight and accountability." She further said that the fraud "was not an isolated incident."

In response, Loeffler instructed Associate Administrator Tre Pennie, who oversees government contracts awarded by SBA, to "act decisively" to crack down on any potential similar abuses in the agency."

Trump SBA initiates audit of all government contracts awarded in last 10 years | Fox News

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Tucker Carlson   slammed his former   Fox News  colleague Jennifer Griffin as 'the deepest of the deep state' as he continued to hammer at his former employers over their coverage of the Israel-Iran war. 

The former  Fox News   host had briefly feuded with both the president and engaged in a viral showdown with Senator   Ted Cruz  over America's support for   Israel 's war on the Iranian nuclear program.

As Trump announced a ceasefire - one Carlson reacted to by tweeting: 'Thank God' - he released an episode of his show where he continued to question his ex-employers coverage, zeroing in on Griffin, the network's Chief National Security Correspondent."

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'Jennifer Griffin is, even by the standards of   Pentagon   employees, she's not technically an employee of the Pentagon. She's a shill, obviously, for the deepest of the deep states. But she's like a parody. She's like parody. It's like the whole thing,' Carlson said. 

Carlson and fellow former Fox host Clayton Morris joked about Griffin's water-carrying for the 'deep state.'

'The crazy thing is Jen Griffin is a liar, but also very liberal, true Trump hater, to the point where I complained about her and I really tried not to complain about other people at Fox when I worked there,' he said.

'She was discrediting the channel, she was such a Trump hatter, and it was emotional.'

Tucker Carlson unleashes stunning insult on Fox News icon while blasting network's Iran coverage | Daily Mail Online

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Just in:

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The birthright citizenship/district court authority case decision will be the first decision to be released today.

It is coming soon.

It is a 6-3 decision on district court authority. It appears to be a huge Trump victory.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

If a president can decree the end to birthright citizenship, a president can decree the end of the right to bear arms. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    last year

No that is not what they are saying. 

They are saying that district court judges can't issue national injunctions.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year

Did or did not Trump issue an order decreeing the end to birthright citizenship? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.2    last year

That has not been addressed in the ruling.

What has been addressed is that the administration will no longer be tied up for months appealing nationwide injunctions from hundreds of activist district judges. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year

Trump decrees that every federal employee is required to wear a MAGA hat when they are in public.  Will he now be able to enforce that decree until the Supreme Court rules on the case a year later, or will dozens of district court judges have to each individually rule on the matter for their own little jurisdictions? 

That would make a farce of the judicial system. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.4    last year
or will dozens of district court judges have to each individually rule on the matter for their own little jurisdictions? 

I think it will go that way. It will fragment federal rule for a bit, but the SCOTUS will accelerate the appeals to the injunctions from the districts issuing them. Federal employees in the rest of the country better have their hats on their heads.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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6.1.6  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    last year

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Vic Eldred
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6.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @6.1.6    last year
Is this, in any way, an edict that has any merit?

It isn't even real. That was JR's example.

Trump would never do that.

Those who think Trump is capable of the same level of craziness as Joe Biden are forgiven.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.4    last year
"or will dozens of district court judges have to each individually rule on the matter for their own little jurisdictions? That would make a farce of the judicial system. "

Yes John. Their rulings would only be applicable for their own little jurisdictions. 

No John. Their present usurpation of the powers granted to them by the Constitution is making a farce of the judicial system. 
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.7    last year
Trump would never do that.

I guess you dont get the point. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.9    last year

I think we all got it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    last year
but the SCOTUS will accelerate

Not when it is a conservative court.  By the time the SC ruled on it tens of thousands of people would have to walk around with red hats on against their will or be fired. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.10    last year

When you get a left wing president and a left wing court, which will happen at some point, owning a gun may be made illegal.  I hope you are happy then. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.11    last year
Not when it is a conservative court. 

I regard it as a Constitutionalist Court.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.12    last year
When you get a left wing president and a left wing court, which will happen at some point, owning a gun may be made illegal.  I hope you are happy then. 

The Second Amendment is clear. You'll need more than that.

I don't know about the far left winning another national election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.14    last year
The Second Amendment is clear. You'll need more than that.

LOL. Because Antonin Scalia said so?   Heller was a 5-4 decision on ideological lines.  When you have a liberal court with a liberal "Scalia" there will be nothing to prevent them reversing Heller, and they will make flawless arguments for the decision. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.15    last year

The language is too clear.

You'll need another amendment.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.16    last year

No its not.  In the Heller case many observers thought the dissenting opinion was more persuasive than the majority opinion, but justice Stevens didnt have the votes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.17    last year

That case tried to determine if an individual had a right to keep and bear arms for self-defense or whether the right was only intended for state militias.

Close but as expected due to language inevitable.

 
 
 
George
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6.1.19  George  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.12    last year

Holy fuck John, quit posting stupid shit, trump didn't order that a constitutional right be removed. the ruling only says piece of shit judges have to stay in their own lane. THERE WAS NO RULING ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.18    last year

Decision two:  A win for parental rights and religious freedom

Mahmoud v Taylor

Another 6-3 decision.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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6.1.21  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.12    last year
When you get a left wing president and a left wing court, which will happen at some point

Maybe , but it wont happen in either of the lifetimes we both have left allotted to us in my view .

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.22  Split Personality  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6.1.21    last year

Never say never, lol.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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6.1.23  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Split Personality @6.1.22    last year
Never say never, lol.

I didnt say never .

 but since i think my life expectancy at this point in my life , is 12 -13 yrs (educated guess due to how long males in my family live ) i simply just do not see it happening , maybe soon after im dead and gone , but in that case i wont give a rip will i ?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.1.24  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.12    last year
When you get a left wing president and a left wing court, which will happen at some point, owning a gun may be made illegal.  I hope you are happy then.

I think the point here is that if some dipshit judge in Seattle tries to rule over gun ownership in Texas, we can bless her heart and go on with our day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.25  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.24    last year

Supreme Court decisions on gun ownership would apply nationwide. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.26  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.25    last year

He was pointing out the SC decision had to do with federal judges, not the Supreme Court

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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6.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

And the birthright opinion really isn't about the "correctness" or "legality" of the present interpretation - it's all about the District Court's unauthorized jurisdiction of their expansion of power.

So, again, the original intent of the 14th (birthright) amendment still is not being addressed.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  1stwarrior @6.2    last year

I think they are leaving birthright citizenship issue for another day.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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6.2.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  1stwarrior @6.2    last year

it does somewhat address the "anchor baby issue" though , which is movement .

 
 
 
Snuffy
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6.2.3  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    last year

I think they may be leaving it up to Congress to handle. The judiciary is there to ensure application of the law follows the law and the constitution, not to make or modify laws.  Any changes handed down by SCOTUS would lead to legislating from the bench.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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6.2.4  Snuffy  replied to  Snuffy @6.2.3    last year
I think they may be leaving it up to Congress to handle.

And right on time...

Amid a legal battle between President  Donald Trump  and several Democratic-run states over birthright citizenship, Rep. Andy Barr, R-Ky., is introducing a constitutional amendment to "immediately put an end to this debate" by clarifying that children of illegal immigrants are not eligible for citizenship. Bill to end birthright citizenship 'once and for all' introduced amid Trump battle | Fox News

I don't really expect this to go anywhere as the numbers in Congress are too even and the current partisan divide seems to be that if one side wants something the other side is automatically against it. Getting a two-thirds passage from both House and Senate seems almost impossible to see happening. But I think this is how resolution of this issue (birthright citizenship) needs to start, it should not be handled by the Judiciary. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @6.2.3    last year

Correct and I'm sure that in the next session of the high Court, the issue of birthright citizenship will be taken up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.5    last year

So for one year Trump can deport people based on lack of birthright citizenship.  When the SC reverses him in a year will Trump pay to bring those people back ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.6    last year

That case will be decided in the October session.

Stop worrying about illegal migrants.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    last year
Attorney General Pamela Bondi
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@AGPamBondi

Today, the Supreme Court instructed district courts to STOP the endless barrage of nationwide injunctions against President Trump. This would not have been possible without tireless work from our excellent lawyers and our Solicitor General John Sauer. This Department of Justice will continue to zealously defend ’s policies and his authority to implement them.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year
@EJDionne
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Roberts court folds.
Justice Sotomayor: “The rule of law is not a given in this Nation, nor any other. It is a precept of our democracy that will endure only if those brave enough in every branch fight for its survival. Today, the Court abdicates its vital role in that effort”
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    last year

The Supreme Court has limited the power of federal district judges to hand down orders that apply nationwide.

By  6-3 vote , the justices said Friday that judges may not issue orders that apply to people beyond those who sued.

"Federal courts do not exercise general oversight of the Executive Branch," said Justice Amy Coney Barrett. And while judges can give full relief to plaintiffs, including groups of people, their injunctions should not be "broader than necessary" to shield those people.

Supreme Court rules for Trump, limits district judges' power to block his orders nationwide

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    last year

The ruling is supported by the Constitution. Does that bother you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.3    last year

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Split Personality
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7.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    last year

Is it retroactive?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.5    last year

I wish!

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.6    last year

That was a question I had. If the SC ruled the way they did, then i would think that the fed judge rulings would be null and void and should be dismissed through the appeals or other courts.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @7.1.7    last year

They are null and void and they should be. They wasted 6 months of the Trump Presidency, tied up DOJ lawyers and cost the government a lot of money.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year

And their enforcement mechanism is what?

Will Trump send ICE, HSI or some other storm troopers to enforce SCOTUS decisions?

The DOJ is truly politicized this time.  SCOTUS is impotent.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @7.2    last year
SCOTUS is impotent.

They reserved the right to decide Constitutional questions for the high Court.

You see, district court judges aren't even mentioned in the Constitution. They were a creation of congress, and their authority was never clearly spelled out. Most recently district judges became the lefts mode of resistance to Trump's policies.  It is they who have been rendered impotent.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    last year

What comes around goes around, no more anti abortion judge shopping in Texas I guess.

Be careful what you wish for unless you are ready for equality.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @7.2.2    last year
no more anti abortion judge shopping in Texas I guess.

I'm ok with that. It looks like no more Planned Parenthood funding either.


Be careful what you wish for unless you are ready for equality.

I am more than ready. Six months was a long time to tie down a President. It is over. May no other President have to go through it.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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Now that people with credentials are publicly weighing in on the bombing mission in Iran, the unbiased liberal press is making a concerted effort to pull the story off the news cycle.  The unintended collateral damage of the press politicizing itself has been throwing the keffiyeh protesters under the bus.  The shock of having actually ended 45 years of Iranian terror naturally distracted everyone away from pointing out the manifest flaws and lies in the press attempts to discredit the Trump administration and defend the Iranian bogeyman.

A Bomb Damage Assessment would focus attention on the 3 bombing missions.  A BDA would be assessing whether or not the weapons worked and how effective the weapons were.  A preliminary BDA wouldn't make any sort of assessment concerning Iran's nuclear program.  The sole purpose of a preliminary BDA is to provide guidance on whether or not the 3 targets need to be bombed again.

One tidbit that received scant attention during the debriefing by General Dan Caine was that the primary targets were ventilation shafts.  It's amazing to think that Iranians would incorporate such a shoddy design flaw into the underground bunkers.  But it is necessary to accept that as possible (and plausible).  Especially considering that the GBU-57 is specifically designed to assume a vertical trajectory to maximize penetration.  One thing is certain, mission planners would be targeting any design flaws that would increase potential damage caused by the weapons.

One aspect of the overall intelligence gathering capability is that Israel had commando units operating inside Iran.  There really were boots on the ground and eyes on targets.  The IDF commandos were acting as forward observers for Israeli air strikes on numerous targets.  Whether or not the commandos gathered intelligence for the Midnight Hammer missions is unknown and may possibly never be known.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @8    last year
A Bomb Damage Assessment would focus attention on the 3 bombing missions.  A BDA would be assessing whether or not the weapons worked and how effective the weapons were.  A preliminary BDA wouldn't make any sort of assessment concerning Iran's nuclear program.  The sole purpose of a preliminary BDA is to provide guidance on whether or not the 3 targets need to be bombed again.

Absolutely true.  The conjecture is over the top. Social media has generated millions of nuclear weapons program experts overnight.

One aspect of the overall intelligence gathering capability is that Israel had commando units operating inside Iran.  There really were boots on the ground and eyes on targets.  The IDF commandos were acting as forward observers for Israeli air strikes on numerous targets. 

Assumed, not in evidence.

Whether or not the commandos gathered intelligence for the Midnight Hammer missions is unknown and may possibly never be known.  

Absolutely true.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @8.1    last year
Assumed, not in evidence.

Beg to differ...............

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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8.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @8.1    last year
Social media has generated millions of nuclear weapons program experts overnight.

God save us all from Instagram "experts".

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.1    last year

Now you believe Aljazeera?

really?

wow!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @8.1.3    last year

Don't like the message, shoot the messenger, right?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.4    last year

I am so sorry Jim, the UN, the UK, the EIAE and others have all come out this weekend and 'declared' that the Presidents premature declaration of absolute total obliteration was wrong as far as the world's acceptance of the definitions of those three words means, based on the BDA that is slowly forming, showing that the Iranian's removed most of the important material and tools from the three known facilities.

Bombing empty buildings was just a waste of $200million in missiles and bombs, spectacular, but pointless.

The Iranians will just be more secretive about their R&D or just buy nukes from their new BFFS North Korea

and Russia, whose mouthpiece Medved has already called for The Axis to donate nukes to Iran.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @8.1.5    last year

And your diatribe has nothing to do with what you asked for, that being that Israel was on the inside aiding the attempt. I provided proof, and you poo poo and attack the source. Can't say I'm surprised at all.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.6    last year
And your diatribe has nothing to do with what you asked for,

What exactly did I ask for Jim?  

that being that Israel was on the inside aiding the American attempt.

Can you point out anything in that article that says the Israeli's hung around to help the USA bombing attacks? You said they were forward observers for Israeli air strikes, not the top secret American mission.

It sounds like they bugged out before their three story building hideout was finally compromised.

I provided proof, and you poo poo

You provided poo poo and zero proof of the Israeli's being responsible for anything to do with the "obliteration attack".

and attack the source. Can't say I'm surprised at all.

I can't say I'm surprised by your confusion, AlJazeera has a pretty poor reputation for being unbiased about ME issues and anti-American and antisemitic and Holocaust deniers.  Are you going to add AlJezeera to your must read feeds?

In more developments about the US airstrikes effectiveness;

In the conversation that was meant to be private, Iranian government officials wondered why the strikes did not cause more widespread destruction.

The administration in a statement from White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt essentially confirmed the existence of the call but called the paper's reporting "shameful."

"It's shameful that   The Washington Post   is helping people commit felonies by publishing out-of-context leaks," Leavitt said. "The notion that unnamed Iranian officials know what happened under hundreds of feet of rubble is nonsense. Their nuclear weapons program is over."

The U.S. military targeted nuclear facilities in Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan and definitely caused damage, although how much damage is under debate among the intelligence community.

Leaked Iran Call Further Shreds Trump's Narrative: Report
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9  JohnRussell    last year
To have a low confidence assessment leaked within 24 hours of the strike is irresponsible" ...former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

Too bad.

A "low confidence" assessment leaked out of Trump's mouth a few hours after the air strike, far less than 24 hours.  

What did Condoleeza say about that? 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @9    last year

Why would she comment on anything? 

There seems to be two groups that hang on every word Trump utters.

His loyal followers and people looking for a good laugh.

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @9.1    last year

‘His loyal followers and people looking for a good laugh.’

You seem not to pay attention to this site. There are a couple of leftists that post entire articles about Trump’s words every single day. Never seen a conservative here do that.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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9.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @9.1    last year
here seems to be two groups that hang on every word Trump utters. His loyal followers and people looking for a good laugh.

I love the side that always freaks out at every little utterance.  Their articles are fkng hilarious.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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9.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  bugsy @9.1.1    last year

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Split Personality
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9.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @9.1.1    last year
Never seen a conservative here do that.

Then you're either memory challenged or being deliberately dishonest.

The tables were reversed not only throughout the two Obama Administrations but the last 4 years of the Biden Administration.

You remember the black, funny name, 59 states, gay lover, gay murderer Obama and Pizzagate articles that papered this place and others about Kenya, birth certificates, raised by Commies and Union organizers stories about the guy who dared to wear a tan suit in the WH and put his feet on the desk?  It's literally what propelled Vic to start publishing on a previous site.

Biden, pedo, grifter, crime family, senile, for sale, crackhead son, slurred words, crass jokes, troop killer etc.

Not a day went by without the kind of salacious crap you want to read and now you can't remember?

C'mon Chief, you are better than that.

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.4    last year

Ok I concede that conservatives have done some of what you stated, but damn, it is an every day, multiple times a day, occurrence when leftists here post stories about every single thing Trump says.

The infatuation of one man for no other reason than his name is Donald Trump is nothing more than a mental illness.

 
 
 
GregTx
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9.1.6  GregTx  replied to  bugsy @9.1.5    last year

Started with Reagan....

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @9.1.5    last year

There's a daily news article here inked every day, sold as informative, that repeats provable misinformation soley on the basis of partisan loyalty to the point of blindness.

You have every right to contradict him and ridicule him as you do JR.  But...

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.7    last year

Please dont put me in the same sentence with him. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @9.1.6    last year

It just seems that way because this is your life.  This is the window or time frame when you became of age or aware of politics.

If it were 1865 or 1867 you would be steeped in the history of antipathy towards Lincoln or Johnson and their lackeys because it was the news of the day.

Social media just magnifies the worst in us regularly

and occasionally the best of us.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @9.1.5    last year

Multiple simple solutions.

Stop reading them.

Stop commenting on them

Stop complaining about them

because I sure as shit cannot  do anything to either one of them to make them stop,

it's their time and their right.

Right?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.9    last year
If it were 1865 or 1867 you would be steeped in the history

Oh yes, that is when they wrote up the law which made the children of the newly freed slaves citizens.

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.12  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.10    last year

Very true. Maybe you can say the same to the left leaners here that complain about conservative articles…..for example….the one you complained about in 9.1.7

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.7    last year

‘that repeats provable misinformation soley on the basis of partisan loyalty to the point of blindness.’

But yet, no one has ever proven any of it as misinformation….just complaining about it being posted…….right?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @9.1.13    last year
But yet, no one has ever proven any of it as misinformation

That's the rub. 

The piece that comes under the heading of "In the news" has gone unchallenged since it began.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.11    last year

In talking about this Trump suggested the Civil War ended in 1869.

He's not a very good guesser. 

Trump Mocked for Not Knowing When the Civil War Ended: 'The …

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.15    last year
In talking about this Trump suggested the Civil War ended in 1869.

I heard it when he said it. I knew the haters would jump right on that.  

Of course, he indicated he didn't know the exact date. You can clearly hear him say "what was it 1869?"



You may recall that Barack Obama claimed that Abraham Lincoln formed the Republican Party. Obama wasn't mocked for it, instead PBS covered for him by editing the comments right out of his speech.

Controversy Erupts After Obama Gaffe Goes Missing From PBS Transcript – JONATHAN TURLEY

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.16    last year
while Lincoln wasn’t in the room when the (Republican) party was born, he became its most influential early leader—shaping its identity around anti-slavery, free labor, and national unity. Bing Co-pilot
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.16    last year

Anyone who has ever read anything at all about the Civil War, and comprehended it, knows it ended in 1865. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.19  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.16    last year

But yet zero leftists had tje same whine when the Hur report came out and Biden could not remember when he was VP and that had only been about 7 years.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @9.1.19    last year

They want to suppress it before it was released to the public.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.18    last year
Anyone who has ever read anything at all about the Civil War, and comprehended it, knows it ended in 1865. 

Anyone who cares about history. I know a mathematician who can't place a date on any historical event.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.17    last year

That won't do.

Lincoln did not create the Republican Party.

Obama said he did.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.23  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.22    last year

Without Lincoln and his assassination the Republican party would have folded again, becoming the Whigs again.

Instead it became the Party of Lincoln, their first elected POTUS and author of their radical liberal policies.

It's accepted history.  Obama was just repeating it.

Stop hating every word he uttered and being so literal.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.24  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.14    last year
But yet, no one has ever proven any of it as misinformation
That's the rub. The piece that comes under the heading of "In the news" has gone unchallenged since it began.

Sorry I missed this nonsense in real time.  The hubris is truly remarkable.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1.25  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.24    last year
The hubris is truly remarkable.

Pathetic is more like it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.24    last year

I'll tell you a little secret. Ninety percent of the "in the news" stories come from the New York Times.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9    last year
"A low confidence" assessment leaked out of Trump's mouth a few hours after the air strike, far less than 24 hours.

Please share the source of your commentary. Thanks.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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9.3  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @9    last year
A "low confidence" assessment leaked out of Trump's mouth a few hours after the air strike, far less than 24 hours.

Would absolute love to see/read/be shown that very misinformed "fact's" source or is this another "because I said he did" comment which makes all things right.

Yeah - I know - will never happen.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @9.3    last year
Would absolute love to see/read/be shown that very misinformed "fact's" source or is this another "because I said he did" comment which makes all things right. Yeah - I know - will never happen.

Dont ask stupid questions.  

A few hours after the attack Trump appeared in the East Room of the White House and said Iran's nuclear program had been obliterated. If CNN was wrong the next day, Trump was wrong on the same day of the attack. He did not know whether Iran's "nuclear" had been completely destroyed or not, but told the nation it had been. 

His reckless comment probably inspired CNN to look for more information. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    last year
A few hours after the attack Trump appeared in the East Room of the White House and said Iran's nuclear program had been obliterated.

Minutes after I saw the pictures I said to myself Iran's nuclear program had been obliterated.

Not anywhere the same thing as leaking a low confidence report that has a kind of legit status attached.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.3.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.2    last year
Minutes after I saw the pictures I said to myself Iran's nuclear program had been obliterated.

Then I feel sorry for you.

Almost as soon as I heard the word "obliterated" I knew he was still ignorant of what it takes to do BDA on underground facilities.

Hint: you can't do it from a satellite picture or even a plane.

All he has done is open Pandoras box.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.3.3    last year
what it takes to do BDA on underground facilities.

Have we ever had that done? Did Iran ever allow inspectors to go where they wanted, when they wanted under the Obama deal?

Don't forget the link.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.3.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.4    last year

Btw, this just in:

"Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo signed a U.S.-brokered peace agreement on Friday, raising hopes for an end to fighting that has killed thousands and displaced hundreds of thousands more this year.

The agreement marks a breakthrough in talks held by U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration and aims to attract billions of dollars of Western investment to a region rich in tantalum, gold, cobalt, copper, lithium, and other minerals.

At a ceremony with U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio in Washington, the two African countries’ foreign ministers signed the agreement pledging to implement a 2024 deal that would see Rwandan troops withdraw from eastern Congo within 90 days, according to a copy seen by Reuters."

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"Kinshasa and Kigali will also launch a regional economic integration framework within 90 days, the agreement said.

“They were going at it for many years, and with machetes – it is one of the worst, one of the worst wars that anyone has ever seen. And I just happened to have somebody that was able to get it settled,” Trump said on Friday, ahead of the signing of the deal in Washington."

Rwanda, Congo sign US-brokered peace deal to end fighting that killed thousands

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.3.6  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.5    last year

Leaving in place all of the cities and townships controlled by the rebel M23 "gangs" in the Congo east?

As I understand it, the cease fire/withdrawal is 90 days away.  According to Trump, verbally, both sides are to make mineral rights deals. the implication there is that the US won't tolerate interference with it's mineral rights.

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.3.7  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.4    last year
Did Iran ever allow inspectors to go where they wanted

Did (fill in the blank with any name of one of the nine nuclear powers) ever allow inspectors to go where they wanted?

No.

The only time that happened was in South Africa, Libya, Kazakstan and Belarus and the Ukraine.

How did that work out for Libya and Ukraine, lol.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Final thoughts:

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It has been a big day for the Supreme Court and the President. The Supreme Court frequently deals with complicated Constitutional issues, many of which are divisive. What is even more problematic for the nation are the activist judges that now populate the judicial system, thanks to Harry Reid changing the rules on Judicial appointments. That is what got all of these radical judges appointed, two of which are on the Supreme Court. 

Today the Attorney General pointed out that of the 40 nationwide injunctions against Trump policies, 35 were issued out of 3 blue districts. In other words, the judges were cherry picked. The Supreme Court finally did what was needed. It defined the limits of district judges' authority. That authority, short of a class action suit, is limited to their districts.

In case anyone missed it Justice Barrett wrote the majority opinion and put the radicals in their place: “Everyone, from the President on down, is bound by law. That goes for judges too.”


"Good night and good luck."

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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10.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    last year
The Supreme Court finally did what was needed. It defined the limits of district judges' authority. That authority, short of a class action suit, is limited to their districts.

That's going to make many on the left and all the democrats cry.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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10.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10.1    last year

Lawyers are thrilled over the ruling. Now they get to sue in 94 separate districts or file a class action lawsuit,

exactly what Alito was afraid of.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11  Split Personality    last year

Your definition of radical needs a lot of calibration and self reflection possibly.

By the way the more you say it the more it reminds me of the boy who cried "Wolf"!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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11.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Split Personality @11    last year

Nicely and diplomatically done , impressive job with a most minimal of bias, if any. wish  i had that capability

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Igknorantzruls @11.1    last year

Anyone who had had a soft pretzel for breakfast from one of those homeless guys knows how , lol. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Thread 11.2 removed for no value.

 
 

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