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Ending a scam

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  76 comments

Ending a scam
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt tweeted: "The WSJ refused to show us the letter and conceded they don't even have it in their possession when we asked them to verify the alleged document."

For about two weeks now the leftwing msm has been chattering about the letdown in the expected bombshell via the Epstein files. There was only a promise to investigate dating back to when Dick Durbin was against their release. Yesterday "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough put it right to Rep. Jamie Raskin over why Democrats failed to act on the issue during the Biden administration and Raskin failed to provide an answer.

"But, Congressman, you could have gotten that from '21 to '25, when Democrats controlled DOJ. Why?  It was a crisis then. It’s a crisis now. Why didn’t Democrats call for it from '21 to '25?" Scarborough asked. 

Believe it or not this is what has dominated the news for a week or two. Last night the President took action to put it to rest. The President posted on Truth Social that he has directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to release all relevant grand jury testimony in Jeffrey Epstein's case, subject to court approval:

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AG Bondi responded two minutes later:

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In addition, the President said he plans to sue The Wall Street Journal, parent company News Corp. and Rupert Murdoch over a front-page story published last evening. Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture: "This is not me. This is a fake thing. It's a fake Wall Street Journal story. ... I don't draw pictures of women ... It's not my language. It's not my words."

Stay tuned for another hoax being debunked.


In other news:

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The House just passed the $9 billion Doge Cuts package that was recently passed by the Senate. Today was the deadline for getting the bill passed. Chalk up another victory for Trump.

The House also passed a bill to regulate digital currency known as stablecoins.

The White House and Columbia University are nearing a deal to end their monthslong legal dispute. The University is expected to pay a $2 million fine. Another victory for Trump.

U.S. strikes damaged and potentially destroyed Iran’s deeply buried nuclear enrichment plant at Fordo, an American intelligence report found.

Elon Musk is trying to expand two of his companies — Starlink and Tesla — in India and thus far has been successful.

CBS cancelled Stephen Colbert’s unfunny political show. A sad end to the late-night show.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced Thursday the cancellation of $18.5 million in taxpayer-funded grants for the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships (CP3). The grants were designated by the Biden administration to provide taxpayer funds to various organizations that DHS says are "ideologically driven programs" promoting DEI and LBGTQ agendas.

Russia lost 1,180 soldiers and 47 artillery systems in a single day. 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Good morning and welcome to the news.

Trump is so intent on building a new prison on Alcatraz Island that administration officials have figured preliminary estimates of the costs and made repeated visits to the site.

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It rises majestically over San Francisco Bay and is a wonderful place for America's worst criminals.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to    last year
I remember something about him and a diaper and an underaged girl  

You do? Please fill us in.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

I can understand the 'desire' to reopen Alcatraz. The name does inspire certain feelings around prisons. But it's not something that I would support. It's estimated that it would cost between $1 and $2 Billion to fix and upgrade to current standards. The cost to build a high level (maximum security) prison current runs between $100 Million and $1 Billion. Add in that the daily costs when Alcatraz was open was twice the cost of mainland prisons and it just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't try to predict the future and there's no telling what Washington will actually do as they view everything thru a 'political' lens, but I hope this doesn't actually move forward. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @1.2    last year
The name does inspire certain feelings around prisons.

The original concept was to have a prison for those who could never be reformed.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

I was in Alcatraz for about an hour and had no trouble escaping.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    last year

That's because decent people get to visit and take a boat ride back to San Francisco.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
It rises majestically over San Francisco Bay and is a wonderful place for America's worst criminals.

Don't we have better uses for that island?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @1.4    last year

I doubt it.

The bay is very cold and a feeding ground for sharks.

It was well chosen for its prime function.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year

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[✘] Last night the President took action to put it to rest. The President posted on Truth Social that he has directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to release all relevant grand jury testimony in Jeffrey Epstein's case, subject to court approval:

The absurd fiction here is that Trump will order Bondi to release all the relevant material. Relevant to what? What we will get is some smatterings of things that most certainly do not implicate Trump with even knowing Epstein , much less implicated in any shenanigans.

Trump is completely , 100% , untrustworthy, and Bondi is in that ballpark. To suggest they will do the right thing is ridiculous on its face.

Mr Murrow, you title the column "ending a scam"? What exactly is the scam?

Trump has for years encouraged the Q Anon addled portion of his base , which is large, when the thought was Bill Clinton and Hollywood figures were the bad guys. If that is the case, why doesnt Trump release everything the government has? They are not going to do that, they are going to cherry pick whatever is necessary to make Trump look good.

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Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year
The absurd fiction here is that Trump will order Bondi to release all the relevant material. Relevant to what? What we will get is some smatterings of things that most certainly do not implicate Trump with even knowing Epstein , much less implicated in any shenanigans. 

If there was ANYTHING implicating Trump, we would have seen it during the 4 years that Merrick Garland had these files. Maybe more files, that no longer exist.


What exactly is the scam? 

The one that you are perpetrating: That Trump is implicated in the files.


Trump has for years encouraged the Q Anon addled portion of his base , which is large, when the thought was Bill Clinton and Hollywood figures were the bad guys.  If that is the case, why doesnt Trump release everything the government has? 

I don't know John, maybe nobody wants to go up against the Clintons. As a Journalist, I prefer to wait for the FACTS and submit them here, where I can only hope they won't be sent off into limbo.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year
The one that you are perpetrating: That Trump is implicated in the files.

This ENTIRE thing is a figment of MAGA. No Democrats have ever paraded around saying who was or wasnt in the Epstein files. 

The current mess started when Bondi and Patel put out a statement saying there was no "list" of Epstein clients after she told the media in April it was on her desk. 

Those are the facts. Like the pussy he is, Trump is now claiming to be the victim, when it is his toady followers and suckers up who are the only victims. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

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Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    last year
No Democrats have ever paraded around saying who was or wasnt in the Epstein files. 

Dick Durbin was against releasing the files when they were in power, and you just told us:

"If that is the case, why doesnt Trump release everything the government has?"

That is the implication.

The current mess started when Bondi and Patel put out a statement saying there was no "list" of Epstein clients after she told the media in April it was on her desk. 

That is being a bit disingenuous. Bondi never said she had a list. She simply said the files were on her desk. Everyone had certain expectations based on that, but she never directly lied about what she had.


Those are the facts

The FACTS are that something really bad happened via Epstein and powerful people. Donald Trump hyped up what might be hidden during his last campaign, just as you are now doing. Many were certain that dems were hiding things. Trump's people now have the files, and they say there is no list and Epstein committed suicide. Trump just ordered Bondi to provide the Grand Jury transcripts.

I say end of story.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year
If there was ANYTHING implicating Trump, we would have seen it during the 4 years that Merrick Garland had these files.

Hell we even saw the Democrats fabricating nonsense to "get Trump at all costs".  Why would they think that the Epstein files would be kept silent if he were inplicated?  Unless they were covering something up...again.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.4    last year

Since he came down the elevator, they've done everything, the vilest & most heinous things to him, and they would hold back if he was involved with Epstein?

I think we can cross that off the list of possibilities.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year

Nobody is buying what you're selling.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.9  Krishna  replied to    last year
No, nobody is buying what you're selling.

Less and less people are buying what anyone is selling! 
Many people are saying that that's due to the added costs (because of the tariffs).

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.10  bugsy  replied to    last year

What he is ‘selling’ is the undeniable proof

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.13  Jack_TX  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.4    last year
Why would they think that the Epstein files would be kept silent if he were inplicated?  Unless they were covering something up...again.

The fact that we now have two very different administrations who oppose each other very much BOTH holding on to this information should tell us something.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.14  bugsy  replied to    last year

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Jack_TX
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2.1.15  Jack_TX  replied to  bugsy @2.1.14    last year

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Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.1.9    last year

Are you saying that people are waking up about the misinformation, disinformation and outright lies being spread over the internet?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to    last year

There is something oddly familiar about your comment.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.13    last year

I think you have a valid point. There were some powerful people involved and neither side seems enthusiastic about the files once they got them.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.23  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.21    last year
I think you have a valid point. There were some powerful people involved and neither side seems enthusiastic about the files once they got them.

After seeing senior members of both parties clamor for the release of this information.... until they get in office.... I'm not sure the important thing they keep hiding is the famous people on the list.  

The fact that everybody wants this released until they get the ability to do so makes me wonder if our government wasn't using this for some sort of clandestine work.  We've done worse, TBF.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.24  Snuffy  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.23    last year
After seeing senior members of both parties clamor for the release of this information.... until they get in office....

Yep, it's another cudgel they use. Such leadership....   sigh

Leading Democrat Rep.   Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif., says President Donald Trump should release the Epstein files, but is silent on why former President Joe Biden did not anytime in his four years in the Oval Office.

Democrats have seized   on the issue since the case became a political controversy for the Trump administration. However, despite their current calls for transparency on the case, the Biden Justice Department also failed to release additional documents on Epstein. 

Asked by Fox News Digital whether she thought the   Trump administration   should release the Epstein files, former House Speaker Pelosi responded, "Absolutely."

Fox News Digital then asked, "Why do you think Biden didn’t do it for four years?" to which Pelosi simply turned around and began walking away.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refuses to say why Biden didn't release Epstein files | Fox News

As it's Washington, maybe it should be spelled leadershit...

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.27  GregTx  replied to  @2.1.25    last year

That's just sad....

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.28  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.23    last year

Bothsidesism at its best!!

Congrats, Jack!

Just another small effort, and you'll have Biden in the arms of Ghislaine Maxwell...

BOTHSIDES!!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.29  Jack_TX  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.28    last year
Bothsidesism at its best!!

You obviously didn't read the post.

Try again.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.30  Jack_TX  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.24    last year
Yep, it's another cudgel they use. Such leadership....   sigh

Look... what I'm saying here is that there very well may be another possibility (or dozens) we haven't considered.

For all we know the US govt paid for trips to Epstein Island as a way to sway key foreign dignitaries, bribe/reward intelligence assets, or any number of other off the books underhanded activity.  Honestly, the possibilities are myriad.

So when people actually get elected and learn the real story, they go "oh... we better STFU about that."  

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.31  Snuffy  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.30    last year

Maybe, but in this individual case the arrest, charges and death of Epstein all happened during Trump's first term. And the records go back even further. I would have expected Trump to learn of this during his first term and as such not used it while campaigning for the 24 election if it had been anything like you suggested.

IMO this was used by Trump to hammer the "other" side. But most of the credible information has already been released. The grand jury transcripts, if they are ever released, will contain more information. But it's unlikely that any firm evidence will come out of it that leads to any other charges or convictions. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.32  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.30    last year

That has a tough time getting past Occam's Razor.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.33  Jack_TX  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.32    last year
That has a tough time getting past Occam's Razor.

Maybe so.

On the other hand, the idea that US intelligence services are doing something highly illegal is hardly an implausible assumption.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.34  Jack_TX  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.31    last year

You may be right. 

Or maybe there is more to it.

In any case, it's doubtful we'll ever know the full details. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.35  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.33    last year
US intelligence services are doing something highly illegal

Oh!! I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

The FBI should release the pictures of naked girls sitting on Trumps lap that they took out of Epstein's safe. 

Since it is now Trump's FBI, these pictures likely don't exist anymore. The whole Federal government, under Trump, is now incompetent and corrupt top to bottom. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    last year



It sucks being them!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    last year

NOW democrats are worried about rules?  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif   Booker's a fkng clown

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    last year
ooker's a fkng clown

He wants to be the Temu of Temu Obama

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    last year

If they had the Seargeant of arms escort him out, the chairman would be accused of being "an authoritarian."

I guess it was better to let Spartacus talk over everyone.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    last year

Yesterday "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough put it right to Rep. Jamie Raskin over why Democrats failed to act on the issue during the Biden administration and Raskin failed to provide an answer.

"But, Congressman, you could have gotten that from '21 to '25, when Democrats controlled DOJ. Why?  It was a crisis then. It’s a crisis now. Why didn’t Democrats call for it from '21 to '25?" Scarborough asked. 

I would love to know what the answer was.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    last year

 According to AOL his answer was "“You have to go back and look specifically at particular prosecutorial decisions and what was taking place in terms of the other cases,” Raskin answered. “So, I don’t know."

Come-on Raskin, we all know....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    last year
I would love to know what the answer was.

Me too and I watched it!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5  Right Down the Center    last year

Russia lost 1,180 soldiers and 47 artillery systems in a single day. 

Unfortunately Putin doesn't care.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @5    last year
Unfortunately Putin doesn't care.

He bet his life on taking the Ukraine.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    last year

He will go down with the ship and he will take as many with him as he can.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.1    last year

I am afraid so. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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Hunter's laptop... 

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1  Krishna  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    last year
Hunter's laptop...

And " Benghazi "-- never forget!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @6.1    last year

Oh yes, Susan Rice lying her ass off.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year

Exactly!

Very good, Vic!!

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Vic Eldred
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6.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    last year

It appears to be Russian disinformation ... even though the FBI had it from the beginning and knew it was real.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6.2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    last year

I suppose I could accept you as an expert in matters of disinformation...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Bob Nelson @6.2.1    last year

It is true that I've dissected quite a few leftwing opinion pieces that were full of disinformation.

Thanks for noticing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9  author  Vic Eldred    last year

This is one of those occasions when I would like to thank those who I sometimes give a bit of grief to.

Thank you all.

 
 

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