Winning Streak
You might not know it via the msm, but President Trump is winning the global trade battle with a series of deals that are resulting, so far, in big concessions by major partners, new revenue for the federal government, and minimal upset to the U.S. economy or markets.
I think I'll deviate from my NT persona as Journalist to my once real persona of my youth. When I was in my 20s there was one thing I liked better than sex or a life of ease. That unique thing was a winning streak. In the sport of Baseball with its long season there are streaks that teams go through. Momentum seemed to be all important in that sport at various times. I used to rate a team that won 3 in a row as being on a minor streak. I used to jump on at that point and bet the team in every game until they lost. More often than not I'd come out with a profit. It was the feeling of being on one of those streaks that was unmatched. It was like walking through life on a cloud. At least I felt that way back then.
The reason I bring it up is because our President seems to be on a winning streak of his own. His latest win was enormous. That would be the trade deal with the EU. In Europe the European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has become the target of many who thought that Trump rolled her. It seems that the EU will pay 15% tariffs, buy a lot of US energy and make investments in the US while getting nothing in return. She could only say that she did it for the sake of rebalancing trade that what was once slanted in favor of the EU and avoiding a trade war. I think it was a rational decision. France & Germany don't like it, nor does the American left.
Which leads me to the cherry on top of this wonderful deal. That is the admission of the left's most honest voice.
For your consideration:
I also enclose this list of accomplishments:
In addition to the money that Trump has brought in via tariffs and foreign investment is the money flowing from the settlements he won, which account for more than $1.2 billion from 13 of the most powerful players in academia, law, media and tech:
The settlements serve as accountability for society's liberal power centers, which have been corrupted by DEI and complicit in antisemitism. The Trump administration has now launched new investigations and lawsuits targeting UCLA, Duke and George Mason universities.
Trump is delivering.
In the news:
Tsunami waves are radiating across the Pacific after a major earthquake (8.8 magnitude) struck off Russia’s coast. The waves have reached Alaska, California, Hawaii and Washington. So far most have been small, causing minor flooding.
The gunman who opened fire in a Manhattan office building had a note in his wallet claiming that years of playing football had left him with a brain disease known as C.T.E. He inveighed against the N.F.L., which has an office in the building, though none of the four people he killed worked there.
Prime Minister Keir Starmer said that Britain would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel did not agree to a cease-fire with Hamas.
Lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s convicted co-conspirator, said she would be unwilling to testify before Congress without first getting immunity.
President Trump acknowledged that Epstein recruited one victim, Virginia Giuffre, from Mar-a-Lago. Trump added: “By the way, she had no complaints about us.”
The Justice Department filed a misconduct complaint against a federal judge who ruled against Trump’s deportation plans.
The Environmental Protection Agency said it would revoke the scientific determination that allows the agency to make rules to fight climate change.
The Trump administration exempted 15 coal plants from some pollution rules.
Trade talks between the U.S. and China didn’t yield a deal. They agreed to keep talking about extending the trade truce.
A merger would create America’s first coast to coast railroad network reaching across 43 states.
Last but not least:
Marjorie Taylor Greene said a “genocide” was underway in Gaza : The first and only Republican to say such a thing.
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As everyone should know by now Tsunami warnings are in effect in Hawaii and the northern-most stretch of California, as well as lower-threat tsunami advisories for the rest of the Pacific coast. We also have a military base on Guam, which I hope is being protected.
It's amazing how many people don't understand that Trump's use of RECROPICAL tariffs were to bring countries to the table to work out trade.
At least one here thought that Trump was unnecessarily bullying them.
Does anyone really think that the EU would have agreed to such a deal by being nice to them?
That one hasn't been correct many times.
They expected Trump to just let the world walk all over the US. He's even gotten NATO to step up on their spending and their own self preservation so we can focus on ours.
Agreed.
They expected Trump to just let the world walk all over the US. He's even gotten NATO to step up on their spending and their own self preservation so we can focus on ours.
I'm certain that historians will set the record straight on Trump. He basically saved the country from the left. His methods might be controversial though necessary. Like Gen Patton many will appreciate what he did but be glad when he is gone. Future generations will give him the respect and admiration he deserves.
Too many are worried about what other's think of the US. Meanwhile many us don't care what the world thinks. The US built a reputation for a lot of things. Giving a damn what others think is not one of them. Doing what's necessary is going to piss some people off. We can't worry about who is pissed.
I think anyone that uses the word "bully" to describe another adult is childish and was probably last to be picked on the baseball team when they were young.
The word "bully" is going to be yet another leftist used word that will no longer have meaning in the near future because of it's misuse.
Exactly..................
You'd be surprised how many who were bullied in their youth develop courage as they grow older. You are right about the left destroying the meaning of words they overuse & misuse.
Kind of like the word "woke".
That was a word that began in the black community and was first borrowed by the left, but yes, the right has branded the left with that word.
The word is quite old, and it means to be "aware or alert," and that is how the black community used it. And while BLM used it for a while as did some liberals, the conservatives have now made the word a dog whistle for anything they don't consider "conservative values."
I'd agree to most of that except for the very last part. The right has used the word very carefully. It is not used against all things that aren't Conservative. The best example would be Obamacare. Obamacare is a democrat policy that grew in popularity even with many Republican voters who found themselves on Obamacare. Republican leaders would never invoke the word "woke" to describe Obamacare, though they may oppose it. On the other hand, many of the excesses of the Biden years such as biological men participating in women's sports (which most Americans regard as insane) would be condemned as "woke."
That is what has made the word politically powerful.
‘Woke’ tends to be more toward social concerns than actual policies, ie, men in women's sports or bathrooms.
Correct. It targets those issues in which democrats are up against a vast majority of the American people. (80-20 issues.)
Not a chance in hell. The EU even admitted one of the reasons they caved was they were concerned about a trade war. In other words they were concerned Trump would actually do what he said. Many on the liberal MSM admit the deal is better for the US. So as I have been saying all along "wait and see" before judging Trumps "Independence day". The partisans and Trump haters could not resist saying it is a disaster and will damage relations. They still don't admit it was more of a threat of tariffs that got them to the table to negotiate overall trade agreements.
The extreme left connected the word with their suppression of any speech they didn't want to hear along with demands that everyone share their various emotional states. That may have been unintended, but the perception is now created.
That's why the objection is so strong and the word evokes such anger. When you demand other feel and speak how you want, they tend to object quite forcefully.
You created that perception in your own brain, all on your own. Or do you mean that you did not create it and it was put there by someone else? Curiouser and curiouser... Take responsibility for it. You think it, therefore you thought it.
This interpretation of woke is why we can't have anything nice around here. In an admission of guilt, one should at least sound contrite. I mean, you at least admitted that it was the extreme left who coerced you into thinking that all of the usage of the word was their definition and that you could not, under any circumstance view the word in a more benevolent or disambiguated way. I am not exactly sure how they achieved this bamboozle, seeing as how there are bounteous sources that do not show this extreme interpretation. One is left to think that the right has created and propagated this simulacrum of a word because they were so snowflakey they couldn't stand it anymore. "No!No! They all told me not to say this! Help me! I'm melting."
Riiiight. Me and 300 million other people just magically had that vision out of the blue. It's just a complete coincidence that these white kids calling themselves "woke" are the same shitheads trying to cancel from Dave Chappelle to Aunt Jemima, or get people fired for "misgendering".
Of course there is always the ridiculous idealists that want to pretend we live in some alternate reality where "woke" people didn't do any of that, but nobody believes that nonsense. Just like nobody believes KKK is a "family circle".
It's yet another chapter in the "Left Can Do No Wrong" series of teenage fiction.
The behavior of people invoking the term is why we can't have nice things.
No. Nice try.
The attempted bamboozle is this bullshit you're trying to sell here. You may as well be selling Donald Trump as an honest man.
See? What did I tell ya? Your commentary persists in taking the actions of the few and placing those finite and limited actions and words onto the whole of the group "the left," applying the imprimatur of prejudice upon them all. As the wording of the prior sentence suggests, you see nothing wrong with doing this, and in fact call on the masses to back your faulty reasoning. It kind of reminds me of the cartoons where the guy is sitting in the kettle over a fire saying, "Come on in. The water is fine."
You told me hyper idealized nonsense where you try to pretend angry young leftists aren't doing the things we've all seen them do. Again.
"Extreme left". But yes. Because that's how public perception works. Just like Trump supporters are all painted with the brush of Jan 6.
However old the word is, it has definitely undergone what is known as semantic change in the last decade or so no matter which side uses it.
Those who support Trump have condoned his historically unique and sickening attempt to steal the 2020 election. No way is he fit for office for that alone.
So rather than try to correct faulty perceptions, one is supposed to double down on these faulty perceptions because "That is how public perception works"?
Interesting how you have yet to demonstrate they're faulty. Ever.
Why would it be my job to change public perceptions? It's not a group with whom I identify in any way. If you want perception changed about your group, change it. You might want to start by demonstrating some behaviors to counteract the prevailing perception that people who identify as "woke" tend to reject accountability for their actions and utterly reject any and all accountability for actions conducted by their group as a whole.
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What is your argument that Trump does not deserved to be bashed every day ?
We understand that some people dont like it, but objectively it is necessary. Trump is a bad guy.
That's a matter of opinion.
John there is a term for people who repeat the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
Why would it be "necessary"? Who is it that you imagine is still unaware of your views on President Trump?
You do realize he's not actually on this forum, right? You do realize that nobody here has the slightest iota of control over what he says or does, yes?
Why? For what?
Again with, "LEAVE TRUMP ALONE!", huh?
More of a "we heard you the first 30 million times, and at this point the more you say it the more idiotic it becomes."
At this point it's like a Key & Peele sketch.
As far as "leave Trump alone"... are you under some sort of delusion that he visits this forum and reads these comments? How, specifically, do you imagine any of you are bothering him?
If somehow it makes you feel better than by all means go for it. If you are thinking it accomplishes anything I believe you will be disappointed.
As long as Trump supporters continue to support and defend this unfit psychopath, it makes sense for others to post commensurate criticism.
Odd that criticism of Trump seems to be more bothersome (to some) than Trump's damaging words and deeds.
We hear you loud and clear...
Nobody in this forum is bothering Trump; pretty sure everyone knows that. This is a forum for opining and debating. Mostly, but not exclusively, on politics. We have never had such an outrageously unfit PotUS who continues to engage in irrational, damaging acts every week. It is unreasonable for anyone to think that criticism of Trump on this forum would stop as long as Trump continues to damage and embarrass this nation.
What would olde MAGA do all day if it were not for bashing trans and defending Don...
Presto-chango! Quick! Look over here at this thing in my other hand.
You have already admitted to their faultiness. It is baked into the (supposed) logic of your posts. I don't expect you to admit it, so you will be left to wonder where-oh-where? It is written there, in plain text, the way in which your commentary reflects on the "evil leftist (Insert your favorite boogey-man here)" and then expands to encompass all "the left", neither of which is fully defined. That is faulty logic 101, yet you continue to repeat it post after post.
I would posit that, since your rhetoric is unloosed from logical rigor, you do not care what perceptions people have, be they correctly or incorrectly arrived at. Since you as much as admitted this above, perhaps you might just tell us who the public is if you do not consider yourself a member of the group? Do you hold the public in such disdain for it to be "not a group with whom I identify in any way"? Aren't you part of "We the People?"
And at long last you still can't see that you use faulty logic in your response defending yourself from using faulty logic? To wit:
What do you think I have been doing? I am woke, meaning aware. It is the MAGA/Trump supporters who made the word into a slur by taking the actions of a few and painting them on the many, and one which you have by your own commentary admitted, accepted, and internalized.
Can't make this shit up.
I'd go with Fckd up, over "Odd"
Sure they can, and will.
What I realize is that you believe Trump has not done and is not doing damage to the fabric of society, so your attitude is who cares?
In that case we could say the same about anything. Why worry about bullying?, the victims will get over it. Why be concerned with trans people?, they arent affecting your life. Someone is torturing dogs on the next block?, not your problem.
Clearly clearly clearly Trump has changed the way Americans consider each other, for the worse. It is not "nothing" , it is not something to ignore and say "not my problem".
The only way to explain your odd attitude about this to acknowledge you say you are a libertarian and government means little.
No. I think your estimates of any actual damage are insanely, ludicrously overblown. I also think you frequently mistake Trump as the catalyst and not the result of said damage.
If you even attempted to represent my sentiment accurately, yes, you could apply it to many aspects of life. "Stop overreacting" is generally good advice.
A key problem is that people seem to have lost touch with what it means to have a responsible, competent, presidential, good-intentioned, rational individual as PotUS. They also seem not to recognize that Trump has lowered the bar on ethics, morality, diplomacy, rule of law, etc. What was once considered unacceptable is now acceptable behavior. Not at all good for this nation, and an aspect that one would have expected true conservatives to hold dear.
Apparently not.
Sure, when do you think that happened?...
2016
*sigh* Just because they don't whine about it all the time does not mean they don't recognize it.
I'm not sure how many times this needs to be restated. They absolutely know that Donald Trump is a rat bastard. It's simply a price they are willing to pay.
This type of liberal condescension is just one of many reasons the phrase "President Trump" exists. I'll refer you to an expert liberal (emphasis mine).....
What do Trump supporters believe they gain with Trump compared to someone else, such as one of the GOP candidates in the primary or Harris? The cost/benefit analysis does not seem to be based on facts and rational reasoning.
Thing is, Trump supporters are not expressing what you claim. They are not acknowledging his many failures; instead, they are defending him, denying wrongdoing, and making excuses. That does not comport with your explanation.
You constantly tell us that Trump is not as bad as he really is. So it need not be restated ever again if it is a burden for you.
A voice. Trump is here because other GOP candidates didn't do a very good job at convincing working class voters they would represent their views, and Harris didn't do a very good job at convincing anyone she would make a good president.
What do you suggest their cost is? What would their benefit have been?
Of course not. Why would you expect that? Democrats knew Biden was senile, but you didn't see them admitting it. Are we going to pretend all Democrats are such complete idiots they had no idea?
We are in a contentious, polarized era of brainless clickbait, carefully curated biased information and damning soundbytes. Nobody is going to give the other side ammunition.
I regularly tell you (and others) that your bias prohibits you from seeing issues objectively. It does.
Did you notice how this discussion wasn't about Trump until you brought him up?
Do these people currently believe Trump is representing their views? If so, there is a major disconnect between their perception and what Trump is actually doing.
So you believe Trump supporters understand that Trump is doing bad things for this nation, and rather than remain silent, they instead decide to defend his words and deeds? For example, cheer on his tariff insanity even though it does and will continue to hurt them financially.
If so, I find that to be irrational and will opine accordingly.
It would be better if you would argue with facts and logic instead of constantly making things personal when your arguments fall flat.
Funny how you seem not to realize that Trump is the topic of this article. Spend less time with strawman arguments and attempts to make things personal.
That varies depending on the person. People who were focused on immigration, DEI excesses, gender issues, and who generally like the "put America first" idea seem pretty happy. People focused on cutting spending and govt waste, not so much.
Why do you think there is a disconnect? His most fervent supporters seem to be getting pretty much what they wanted.
In the same way I have seen my liberal friends defend and rationalize Biden's senility along with Clinton's infidelity, sexual harassment and perjury, yes.
As we discussed the other day, I'm not sure the data supports the idea the tariffs are actually hurting them, and given Trump's actions, it's impossible to predict if or how much they will.
My comments were about the behavior of "woke" people. You made it all about Trump. If you don't like being challenged on your behavior, stop doing it.
The fundamental disconnect is the perceived value from Trump versus the actual damage from Trump.
They think they are getting what they wanted. Immigration was touted as getting rid of the bad illegals (rapists, murderers, insane individuals). Trump never ran on going after long-term domiciled illegals. Some indeed might want Trump to invest countless billions ripping families apart, etc. but that was not something Trump campaigned on.
The concept of "put America first" is fundamentally different from what Trump is doing. Trump is talking up a storm but, as noted, what he says does not comport with what he is doing. Seems there are far too many people who believe Trump's bullshit rather than objectively analyze his actions.
How about those who believe Trump would be good for the economy? Many comprehend the economy in very local terms. If they (or friend and family) are struggling getting a decent job or dealing with the price of goods and services they will hold the economy is bad (normally). Seems too many cannot break free of Trump's bullshit and believe that everything is going to be just fine because Trump has these tariffs that are being ' paid by foreign nations '.
The tariff effect takes time for inventory levels to deplete and for companies (for those doing this) to give up eating the cost increases. Trump tariffs that persist are the ones that do and will adversely affect prices. Further, tariffs are the exact opposite of Trump's key campaign promise to lower prices. Lots of rationalization seems to be taking place among Trump supporters.
ChatGPT offers this summary of tariff effects now, and down the road (if tariffs persist) this will grow worse (no other option):
But in all, those who understand tariffs know that despite Trump's repeated bullshit, no money is coming INTO the USA because of tariffs. The government is getting more revenues and consumers are paying for it.
This article is about Trump. Too bad if it is a problem for you when we opine on Trump.
I'm not sure whether he campaigned on it or not matters. I'm very sure the details don't matter to them the way they matter to you. If you just listen to them, they'll tell you. They're happy the immigration laws are finally being enforced.
Not the way they see it.
I agree that many people see the economy through the personal lens of monthly income and expense. Again, those dynamics haven't changed much. But the news is full of Trump "taking action", and his detractors continually warning of a sky that never seems to fall. So most Trump supporters I know are happy to wait and see how that ends up.
Yes. And Trump's tariffs are almost never in place long enough for inventory levels to deplete and none seem to be very permanent. When you stop listening to Trump's words and start listening to his actions, you hear full volume screaming that all of this could change again tomorrow, so don't make any assumptions yet.
Also again, I don't care what your AI platform says. They're only as good as the prompt. Yours just cited Wikipedia, FFS.
We have inflation data. It's not hard to find. Headline CPI, Core CPI, Headline PCE and Core PCE are all under 3%. July numbers will be out on Tuesday. We'll see if they start to creep higher.
Some certainly are happy with the extreme way Trump is going after domiciled illegals. And they are paying a high price to satisfy that itch (but probably do not realize it).
Yeah, that is what I have long since deduced.
First, Trump keeps putting tariffs on and taking them off. The only tariffs that matter are those that persist. And there is helping those who refuse to do the most basic research on tariffs to understand that tariffs are paid by US companies and that these companies will pass the costs onto consumers. Some eat the costs temporarily but eventually consumers pay.
It is a real shame that people have to experience substantial pain before realizing this inevitable cause and effect: tariffs are paid by domestic consumers, not by the foreign nation supplying the goods and services.
If you have carefully read what I have written on tariffs you would realize that this is the key message I have communicated. My message has been that Trump tariffs which persist will increase prices and that this is the opposite of what his supporters claim to have wanted.
The market has largely decided that Trump is not to be taken seriously and is thus being far less emotional regarding his acts. That, however, does not change the reality that persistent tariffs will raise consumer prices.
It is not my AI platform.
You are trying to dismiss one of the strongest single sources available today because it inconveniently backs up my argument. Thing is, you can follow the links and can verify the accuracy yourself. You do not do that, you just dismiss the inconvenient AI reports.
For items that we have traditionally imported in volume, do you think a persistent tariff on those items will NOT raise consumer prices? If so, explain your reasoning.
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Yeah, some are. Let's face it, Biden showed a pretty blatant disregard for the law, and people got pissed about it. I'm not sure about high price. Maybe. It's too early for any reliable data on that yet.
Yeah. Exactly. So the whole discussion is academic speculation, as far as I can tell. Could it all end in tears? Yeah. Absolutely. Could it all also work out fine? Yeah, that's certainly a plausible outcome as well.
It appears as though you expect many of them to persist, and at significantly higher levels than a year ago. At least that seems the most likely explanation for the fervency of your objections to them. Maybe I've misread that.
In any case, projecting the impact of Trump tariffs seems a little like analyzing the performance of a car... but he's put a sail on it and intends to navigate the Potomac. He's using them for a totally different purpose than they were designed. How do we even guess?
For about the 80th time, the question is not whether or not a standing tariff will raise prices. As we have discussed in detail, ALL standing taxes on businesses raise prices. I trust I can count on you to help me explain that the next time one of our local lefties wants to send the corporate tax rate back to 40%
The question is which of these tariffs will remain when the dust settles. Until that is decided, any other analysis is moot.
Analysis of well-known economic dynamics that concludes a (very predictable) future state is not mere speculation. We do have extant persistent tariffs that have raised prices and will continue to do so as the tariffs ensue. Even though you claim to have stated this 79 times already, when you label economic analysis "academic speculation", that flies in the face of your acknowledgement that persistent tariffs do raise prices. As the saying goes, stop trying to have it both ways. Tariffs are a perfect example of major moves by Trump that should be criticized. Especially given the number of people who seem not to believe that tariffs are effectively a consumption tax and that they are the consumers who are affected.
What laws did Biden break?
I am aware of his classified documents failure — a violation of the law. Outside of that, what are you referring to and how do you even start to compare whatever you have in mind with Trump's illegal and unconstitutional acts?
If he were engaging in anything remotely resembling "well known economic dynamics", you might have a point.
I didn't say he broke them. I said he showed a disregard for them. He had no interest in immigration law enforcement and even actively attempted to prevent it.
The very fact that he is a bull (no understanding but full of power) in an economic china shop illustrates the problem. You think Trump needs to be executing an economic policy for there to be economic consequences??
You are correct that Biden showed disregard for immigration law enforcement. However, your comment "Biden showed a pretty blatant disregard for the law" suggests that he disregarded the rule of law; routinely, not just with the border. Given that you were comparing Biden to Trump, you either dramatically downplayed Trump's disregard or dramatically exaggerated Biden's, because Trump's disregard is on a different level (in a major way) than that of the presidents before him.
Trump has defined a new level of disregard for the rule-of-law and this, by the way, is one of the key ways Trump has damaged our nation. He has, to a degree, normalized a new level of politicians misbehaving. The electorate has been further desensitized to the crap that politicians get away with.
Obviously not.
That doesn't make them predictable.
It was a response to a comment specifically discussing immigration.
Do you see what I mean when I say you can't accept agreement unless it meets your Trump bashing standard?
Let's focus on the point of agreement....
OK. We agree on this. It's a good start.
Predictably, prices will rise as a result of continued tariffs. Predictably, rising prices will reduce consumption. Predictably, a significant reduction in consumption will be adverse to the economy.
Sure, Jack, we agree on an obvious reality.
We do not agree, at all, on comparing Trump with Biden in terms of 'disregard for the law'. Major disconnect there. It is, IMO, like comparing someone who occasionally shoplifts minor items with a professional grand larcenist.
If they turn out to be "continued" tariffs. I'm skeptical.
It's certainly not a universally accepted reality on our little forum here.
Skeptical about what? If Trump has tariffs that remain for 6 months or so, they will almost certainly cause prices to rise in the affected areas. I see no way for companies to absorb tariffs for more than a few months (especially at 25%) without passing this on to consumers.
Not sure I understand what you are referring to.
About whether they will remain in place long enough to have traditional effects.
When are they going to apply the correct definitions of various words?
The left started it all by calling their opponents fascists. Now everybody is degrading the language.
Racist, fascist, misogynist, Nazi... it's a long list. And yet, somehow, they actually expect to be taken seriously.
But a very limited vocabulary.
And yet, somehow, they actually expect to be taken seriously.
They only need to look at the WSJ Poll.
The left split into polar opposites when that poll come out. Half are dead silent and the other half are jumping through hoops trying to downplay it. It is almost so bad that they have an approval rating below airplane food.
What's really saddening is that they, really, have no idea what they need to do to change that. They are so wrapped up in their power trips and trying to regain power that they haven't taken an objective look internally and accepted their several failings (i.e. identity politics, weaponizing agencies, partisan judges).
They have yet to accept responsibility for anything and I doubt they ever will. Their chances of being remotely successful in midterms are dwindling by the day.
Many of them are ideologues. They won't change. The more moderate democrats have left the party and became independents.
They have yet to accept responsibility for anything and I doubt they ever will.
They have learned nothing.
Their chances of being remotely successful in midterms are dwindling by the day.
Good news for the country.
Just as their "voters" are.
And they were taught by some very highly paid tenured professors.
Just reinforces the fact that a "college degree" doesn't equate to being smart.
I'm curious, do you all believe that there are no rightwing conservative Trump supporters who believe in the many racist stereotypes of minorities?
Are there no rightwing conservatives that believe a women should accept religious headship rules and/or shouldn't be allowed to make decisions over their own bodies?
Are there no rightwing conservative Trump supporters who believe in strong nationalism and in giving more power to a single charismatic strong man leader, encouraging him to suppress their opposition and enforce a social hierarchy with them in charge and have great hostility towards democracy and liberalism?
Are there no rightwing conservatives who have marched around side by side with their fellow confederate lovers waving swastika flags? There may not be many of them, but those that do exist are clearly rightwing conservatives as their apparent beliefs and desires align.
If you can't see how much that shit has infected the MAGAverse then you're either completely oblivious to reality or you're already infected and simply trying to obfuscate the truth.
It never did, but we used to educate people. It isn't even close anymore.
Seriously? not a single republican i know is racist enough to think minorities can't compete without help, it's only the party of the klan that feels that way, which by definition is racist.
Not nearly as many as I've seen demonstrated from the left. Now, I'm curious, what prevents the left from actually using the definition of a term instead of some nonsense you all dream up to fit a narrative? Look at the American Eagle advertisement that you all have set your hair on fire about. There is nothing in that ad that is "Nazi like" or, "Misogynistic" yet here you all are crying about it. There is nothing "fascist" about ICE detaining and deporting illegals. There is nothing "fascist" about detention facilities. Yet here you all are crying about it.
Most of what you all shriek about is fabricated. The sad part is, none of you have taken the time to objectively look at these situations. You go into parrot mode and just start squawking endlessly with what somebody else told you.
Ok, you went all twisted on this one. Some fact, some fiction. Yes there are some who believe in a strong nationalism. I don't recall anybody calling to give him more power. I do recall some trying to strip power away from the president. I don't recall anybody from the right calling for him to suppress opposition. But we did see the left supported administration do that (and you all were dead fkng silent as it happened).
What we've seen come from "liberalism" has hurt the country. The November election should have been an indicator for you all. But somehow it wasn't and you all went right back to the fall back bs like "the election was stolen".
That's another thing that prevents anybody from taking you seriously. The pathetic, childish name calling. That one gets thrown out there against anybody who does not toe the line with the stupidity you all keep squawking about. Just because somebody disagrees with you does not mean that they are "MAGA". You all can't grasp that there are people who not only don't stand with the batshit lunacy coming from the left but don't stand with the the batshit lunacy from right either There is no "all on one side or the other". When you can wrap your heads around that, things will get a bit easier for you all.
If you are so unsure of any of the "rightwing conservative" supports/beliefs, try looking them up - Google would help
I don’t know who started it, but both sides do it, so I advise against being overly sanctimonious about it.
And as near as I can tell, Trump is the first president to be called fascist by his own former chief of staff, and other former aids. So, just maybe there’s something to it in this case.
You don't?
Let's go back to the guy that George W defeated.
I actually don’t care. I find the other part of my comment to be far more interesting. I notice you chose to ignore it. Unsurprising.
I'm closing this thread. It's not a productive discussion.
The trade deals are wrapping up. Before the end of the year Trump will need to pivot to reshoring businesses and jobs. Trump's trade policies still lack resilience and the US remains vulnerable to supply chains. Brow beating investors and business operators will be considerably more difficult that pressuring feckless politicians.
If Trump wants the Epstein controversy to go away, why does he keep talking about it? There seems to be a new titillating revelation every time the story shows signs of dying down.
I think we'll be hearing about trade deals throughout Trump's final term.
Before the end of the year Trump will need to pivot to reshoring businesses and jobs.
Agreed.
If Trump wants the Epstein controversy to go away, why does he keep talking about it?
The simple answer is that it was a campaign promise. I think that people who were named, though maybe not involved in the sexual aspect of Epstein's life, went to Trump and asked him to ditch what Bondi was about to do. That is how I think Trump got himself into this spot with his supporters.
IMO after the midterms we'll be hearing a lot about taxes. Lame Duck Trump will be focusing more attention on balancing the budget as a legacy item. And there's not much left to cut. Balancing the budget has run into a liquidity trap.
That doesn't explain why Trump is escalating the salacious nature of revelations. Why would Trump inject Mar-a-Lago into the controversy at this late date? Trump keeps throwing gasoline on the fire -- at opportune moments.
Are we to believe that the Epstein material contains a lot of dirt on New York conservatives? We're supposed to believe that Jeffrey Epstein was a mover and shaker in conservative circles? Personally, I doubt the MAGA instincts are on the wrong path but its too early for the midterms. Trump is stalling, not hiding from his base of support. When do we begin hearing about Jeffrey Epstein's brother, Mark?
That is why Trump is pressuring Powell to cut interest rates.
Why would Trump inject Mar-a-Lago into the controversy at this late date?
He took the bait on leftwing media's promotion of the fact that Bondi told Trump he was mentioned in the files back in May. He really didn't need to answer that. Rational people know that hundreds of prominent people were somehow acquainted with Epstein. People also know that Garland had possession of the files for 4 years and if there was anything incriminating about Trump in them, it would have been revealed.
Are we to believe that the Epstein material contains a lot of dirt on New York conservatives?
No, Epstein has become such a negative that any minor relationship with him has now become an embarrassment. The fact that democrats didn't want the files released when they had them indicates that there may be more progressives named than Conservatives.
We're supposed to believe that Jeffrey Epstein was a mover and shaker in conservative circles?
No, he was simply somebody who had a jet-set lifestyle and a dark side.
When do we begin hearing about Jeffrey Epstein's brother, Mark?
Maybe you should begin.
Yes, we've known for a long time that Trump's name is in the files. We also have known for a long time that Bill Clinton's name is in the files. I agree completely that had there been any real evidence of criminal acts by Trump in those files it would have been leaked to the press during the last election.
I'm also confident that there are a great number of "high powered" names in the records from all sides of the political spectrum. Perhaps they should be released, it might help remove some of these 'forever politicians' from running again.
Isn't the MAGA base wanting to know who all those other people are? Isn't that the point of demanding the list of clients?
IMO Trump is stringing this along. He's not trying to defend himself by throwing out information that he doesn't need to reveal. Which prominent Democrat might try to influence the midterms? Now Bondi knows what Garland knew. Let's let Democrats sweat.
Nah, that's Democrats' petard. I want the popcorn concession.
They have been hard to find of late.
Good answer though.
In the end Trump may have to do just that ... friends or no friends.
Seems the Democrats aren't done trying to get the records on their own.
Have no clue if this will work, should be interesting to watch however.
They are returning to their aggressive norm.
They need to be held in check.
A little outside the box but possibly Trump is going to trap democrats into eating their words and demands by releasing what they want and finding that there are some pretty high profile democrats named and implicated in going to the island, and on the other hand, nothing to implicate Trump, something leftists are still trying so hard to get for something..anything.
I still wonder why democrats did not demand the same release of Biden
So much for all the hysterical doomerism we heard about how tariffs and ICE raids were going to destroy the economy.
In a 50-49 vote, the U.S. Senate voted on Tuesday evening to confirm Trump nominee Emil Bove as a judge on the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska joined Democrats in voting against Bove’s nomination.
Do we know the reasons behind Collins and Murkowski's vote??
In the case of Murkowski, she believed the "whistleblowers" that the democrats suddenly came up with:
"Murkowski cited the accounts of whistleblowers to explain why she was unwilling to confirm Bove to a lifetime appointment on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.
“When somebody who is going to be placed on on the bench as at the Circuit Court level, basically tells other attorneys that you should disregard the law —That, to me, is disqualifying," Murkowski said in an interview Tuesday afternoon. "Just plain and simple, disqualifying.”
Murkowski votes against controversial Trump nominee for appeals court
I assume Collins simply fell in line with Murkowski as usual.
When all else fails Democrats will try this kind of bullshit.
All the while Murkowski is ignoring current sitting judges doing just that.
For anyone interested in the "whistleblower" and his claim, the New York Times leaked the story of the whistleblower just before the Senate Judiciary Committee was about to vote on the Bove nomination. The Times only gave the DOJ 15 minutes to respond before they published the piece.
For the record, here is the DOJ response:
"We support legitimate whistleblowers, but this disgruntled employee is not a whistleblower — he’s a leaker asserting false claims seeking five minutes of fame, conveniently timed just before a confirmation hearing and a committee vote.
As Mr. Bove testified and as the Department has made clear, there was no court order to defy, as we successfully argued to the DC Circuit when seeking a stay, when they stayed Judge Boasberg’s lawless order. And no one was ever asked to defy a court order. This is another instance of misinformation being spread to serve a narrative that does not align with the facts. This “whistleblower” signed 3 briefs defending DOJ’s position in this matter and his subsequent revisionist account arose only after he was fired because he violated his ethical duties to the department."
Attorney General Pamela Bondi
Attorney General Pamela Bondi on X: "We support legitimate whistleblowers, but this disgruntled employee is not a whistleblower — he’s a leaker asserting false claims seeking five minutes of fame, conveniently timed just before a confirmation hearing and a committee vote. As Mr. Bove testified and as the Department" / X
Really wish I could say I'm surprised about that.
Just like 90% of the lefts "whistleblowers". Imagine that.
Left wing "whistleblowers" sure do like to stay anonymous.
Wonder why? s/
It's a little harder to call bullshit on false claims when you can't immediately identify the liar. But eventually their identity comes out because it's not protected under whistleblower laws the way they think.
I guess Trump secondary tariffs against Russia have begun:
WASHINGTON — President Trump said Wednesday he would impose a 25% tariff on India starting Friday — along with an additional penalty for buying Russian energy and weapons .
Trump threatens India with 25% tariff — plus 'penalty' for buying Russian energy
"Fifty years ago today, at 2:30 p.m. in the parking lot of a Bloomfield Hills, Michigan restaurant, Jimmy Hoffa vanished. He was seen getting into a Maroon Mercury and disappeared forever, starting one of the greatest mysteries in American history."
"Hoffa's family is asking President Donald Trump to make public all the Hoffa case FBI files to find out what the government knows and has kept hidden for half-a-century to finally provide the answers to the iconic case."
Hoffa's son urges Trump to declassify disappearance files 50 years later | Fox News
Btw: For anyone interested in how the US Senate is in the predicament of having about 150 Trump nominees still without a vote after 6 months, the answers include democrat obstruction and Senate Leader Thune going along with the insane idea of the US Senate only meeting on Tuesdays & Thursdays.
Can we now trust Thune to make them work through the August recess?
Can we trust Thune to make them work through the August recess? Hell, we can't even trust him to get them to work when they're supposed to - during normal working hours.
Breaking:
Kamala Harris just dropped out of the CA Governor's race.
Writing on the wall or higher aspirations? Either way, "see ya, wouldn't want to be ya".
Please, Please let her be the democrats next nominee.
I just heard she is considering another run in 2028. I'll bet anything she'll be facing strong opposition from democrats.
Would be hilarious if she has to drop out before Iowa again
How many times does she need to be told nobody wants her?
But then again, her running is almost a guarantee for the Republicans.
She was also the first to suggest that Jews were using space lasers to start fires.
Yes, mtg sounds like a democrat. Good point.
So THAT'S what that "R" after her name means.[✘]
delivering fascism, by blackmail, again.