Air Force to provide funeral honors to Ashli Babbitt
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The U.S. Air Force will provide Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt with military funeral honors, reversing a Biden-era decision that denied her family's request, according to a legal group that has represented her family.
Judicial Watch, the conservative legal group, on Wednesday made public a letter from Under Secretary of the Air Force Matthew Lohmeier, extending an offer to allow the special funeral procedures to take place.
"I understand that the family's initial request was denied by Air Force leadership in a letter dated February 9, 2021," Lohmeier wrote in the Aug. 15 letter shared by Judicial Watch. "However, after reviewing the circumstances of Ashli's death, and considering the information that has come forward since then, I am persuaded that the previous determination was incorrect."
He additionally extended an invitation to her mother and husband to meet him at the Pentagon, so he may offer his condolences.
The Hill requested comment from the Pentagon regarding the veracity of the letter.
Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed by law enforcement during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot as she attempted to climb through a barricaded door to the Speaker's lobby near the House chamber.
A month after the riot, an Air Force representative under former President Biden's administration informed her family that military funeral honors were denied for her funeral "due to the circumstances preceding her death."
"As a result, I have determined that military funeral honors would bring discredit upon the Air Force," Brian Kelly, an Air Force lieutenant general, wrote in that letter.
An eligible veteran's honor guard detail consists of at least two members of the armed forces, one of whom is a representative of the veteran's service branch, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs. It will perform a ceremony including the playing of taps and the folding and presentation of the American flag to the next of kin.
"Ashli Babbitt's family is grateful to President Trump, Secretary [Pete] Hegseth and Under Secretary Lohmeier for reversing the Biden Defense Department's cruel decision to deny Ashli funeral honors as a distinguished veteran of the Air Force," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement.
In May, the government agreed to pay Babbitt's family nearly $5 million as part of a settlement.
It came as the Trump administration has sought to unravel the Biden administration's crackdown on those who participated in the riot.
Trump pardoned nearly all rioters on his first day back in the White House and fired dozens of prosecutors who worked on criminal cases stemming from the attack.
The Air Force could not be reached for comment.
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The MAGA Defense Dept is honoring traitors now.
"I am persuaded that the previous determination was incorrect."
John - although you might not always agree, others have done a further evaluation and determined that the 2021 decision, by the Biden administration, was the incorrect decision in her case.
The Biden Crime Family made many bad decisions during their "reign" and those decisions need to be corrected - whether you agree with them or not. Just the way the wheels of justice roll.
The Undersecretary of the Air Force is an unqualified conspiracy theorist, and trump bootlicker. .
As for Ashli Babbitt, she violently entered a restricted area that was locked and barricaded. The cop was standing his ground in service of protecting the members of the U.S. House of Representatives. There was a mob outside that door and if Babbitt had succeeded in disarming the cop the mob would have been let in. The cop did his job and Babbitt was a traitor.
She was not being violent. Nor was she a traitor. She was unarmed and her hands were in plain view of Lt. Byrd
Tnks was an unjustified shooting regardless of how or why she was there. The US paid a wrongful death lawsuit.
Air Force Reverses This Biden Administration Decision on Ashli Babbitt . From the article......
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This is totally ridiculous. She went in through a bashed in window. The bashing of that window, which she took part in , is violence. She was a traitor, all of them were. How was thecop supposed to know she was unarmed, and it doesnt matter anyway. If he let her in there is a chance she could have overpowered him and then opened the door for the rest of the mob.
There are photos of ununiformed police inside the House with their guns drawn as they waited to see if the mob would try to enter. Do you think they were going to just stand aside and let the insurrectionists in? No they would have shot them. That was their job and duty.
Bullshit, the pussy cop was hiding in a doorway and shot her without warning.
Good. Long overdue
She is a criminal, got what she deserved. Break into my house? Same result.
So, you are fine with any law enforcement officer shooting without warning anyone who enters a Government Building when they feel they are trespassing.
Do you believe that Ashli Babbitt made it all the way to that point in breaching that inner door without ever being warned that she was trespassing? How many times did she likely ignore warnings to get to that point of breaching that inner door of the capital building? How many times should people be allowed to ignore warnings when trespassing into Government buildings? What's the polite number of warnings you're allowed to ignore when trespassing in a government building? Please, I'd really love to know.
The doors to the Capitol building were locked. That is why the mob had to break windows to get in. A locked door means you are not allowed inside. The police would have been justified to shoot everyone who entered the building.
It would be great if you could provide evidence that she had been warned several times that she was trespassing.
Do these guards look like they're just hanging out off duty or are they attempting to prevent entry? Do you believe that none of those officers told the screaming Ashli Babbitt to leave the premises? Really? You don't believe they gave any warnings or told those pressing in on them that they were trespassing? Really?
You sure about that?
I watched the video MANY times, and if you can hear or lip-read ANY of the "guards" saying those words, a timestamp may be in order. Just not sure it's there. They were all a bit confused as to what was going on and if I remember correctly, they moved when they realized it may be futile, and also the fact that there were reinforcements coming up the stairs.
Just not so sure, in the heat of the moment, they thought it would do any good.
That brings another problem into the mix. If you remember the J6 Committee has been accused of altering their "evidence". We already know they altered Trump's comments from that day.
We also know they withheld a lot of video during the "trials" and the vast majority of the "suspects" were heavily overcharged.
The committee that was put together was, 1. Hand picked by Pelosi and 2. Failed to complete their task.
Yes, the Capitol doors were locked and secured before rioters entered on January 6, 2021. The U.S. Capitol is protected 24/7 by Capitol Police, and access is restricted to authorized personnel with proper identification. On that day, temporary and permanent security barriers were in place around the building, including fencing, signage, and police barricades.
However, some doors were eventually breached or opened, and there has been controversy over how certain entrances—like the Columbus Doors on the east side—were accessed. These massive 20,000-pound doors are magnetically locked and typically require a security code or internal override to open. Some commentators have speculated they were opened from the inside, but no conclusive public evidence has confirmed who unlocked them or how.
The House Select Committee and federal investigators have reviewed hours of surveillance footage and internal communications, but as of now, the exact mechanism by which some doors were opened remains unclear, fueling ongoing debate and conspiracy theories.
If you’d like, I can walk you through the timeline of how different entry points were breached or explore how Capitol security protocols were altered after the attack.
I don't know how many times or is she was ever warned, if you know please provide it. I do know that the security guards that where preventing the group which included Babbit (which you have so kindly posted a picture below) were removed from the area. WHY.....Had they not been removed Babbit would have never been killed.
And, per all the videos, the police and other law enforcement members where in the crowd RIGHT NEXT TO HER and two were actually trying to PROTECT her.
Jjeezzz how in the hell can people be so friggin' blind???
Never happen - never does. Proof is a vague premise.
Are you saying she was too stupid to realize what she was doing was WRONG? Really?
So you are fine with people breaking into your house, and you will do nothing to stop it? The doors were LOCKED, kinda screams out, "not welcome", doesn't it?
Who was breaking in?? Who was the pistol pointed at? Why so many LE's next to her/behind her and none appear to be attempting to stop her? If it was such a threat, why were so many folks WALKING in the hallway and watching what was taking place instead of attempting to find an area of cover?
Don't listen to the rumors - watch the event - you'll learn more.
The mob was literally trying to bash the barricaded door in. Literally. She entered through a bashed in window. That IS violence whether you like it or not.
Suppose this was a police precinct and Antifa was trying to bash in doors and windows and enter, and a cop shot the first one through. Do you think his action would be questioned? LOL.
Considering how most on the left are cheering for criminals, illegals, etc, you can rest assured someone from the left will pitch a fit.
Funny how ALL THE PICS show that she was a good three feet from the door - so, how the hell could she have been "entering a bashed in window" that hadn't been bashed in YET and from three feet away???
nbcnews link at 3.1.16.
Haven't seen any of the west coast rioters being questioned for burning Fed buildings, threatening public officials, tearing up private property, beating up LE and other public officials.
Wonder why???
LOL
No, not at all and had this been a residence she was entering there would be no discussion, she would be shot. Last time I checked trespassing in a government building is not a shoot first and ask questions later. Babbit was breaking the law, being arrested was the proper punishment not death.
The "bashing" as you put it, didn't happen until the Security Guards that were posted in front of the doors that kept the protesters away were removed. They were never harmed, never assaulted, why were they removed ?
All that is required, generally, for a funeral with military honors is that a veteran was discharged honorably. You can commit crimes afterward, and it doesn’t change eligibility for the funeral honors unless it was a capital crime - i.e.: a crime that carries the death penalty.
Haven't seen anything showing she wasn't.
What crime was committed?
Does that include death penalty carried out by an "officer" who should have never been on the job?
That’s dumb. All of it.
What's dumb is dodging simple questions.
If they’re so simple, maybe you should Google them. I’m not going answer obvious trolling with a genuine effort to educate you on something you already should know.
No shame in saying you don't know and don't know how to research.
Fair enough. I won’t shame you.
I’m not the one asking “simple questions.” That was you. I already know what happened.
Facts bother you?
No, you don't know what happened. You're basing your discussions on "your" opinion(s) gathered from mass media - of which more than 80% is BS bleaching.
I made a comment clarifying the regulations on military funeral honors. WTF are you referring to?
What fact?
No. You're the one that can't answer them.
"I already know what happened" was the basis for my comment about opinionated comments.
Sorry.
I feel like you guys put way too much effort into trying to “win” something here. I’m just here to have a conversation.
Did you have a serious question about military funeral honors? Because that’s all my comment was about. You act like we’re supposed to be fighting over something, but I don’t know what your beef is.
The questions were asked in 4.1. Start there.
Great. Neither have I. So?
I didn’t say she committed a crime, and I’m not here to prosecute her.
It has no connection to an officer shooting in self defense. Police officers are not carrying out a penalty when they do that. I have no information or concern for whether or not that cop should have been on the job. None of that was the focus of my comment. You clearly have some agenda related to this that has nothing to do with what I wrote. That is why I said your comment was dumb.
I hope you’re happy now. What a waste.
Who the hell are you quoting? Get yourself straight then we'll have a conversation.
You can't say what crime was allegedly committed yet you think her murder is justified?
You. In 4.1. You wrote:
And I responded. Do you really need so badly to pick a fight that you want to argue about whether or not you wrote that?
I didn’t say she committed a crime. I didn’t say she was murdered. I didn’t say her killing was justified.
Cherry picking just isn't you thing. What I ask in 4.1:
Of which you haven't answered.
I also asked:
Again, you haven't answered.
I answered everything in 4.1.15. Please read the thread and stop trying to pick pointless fights. If you don’t like my answers, that’s a you problem.
keep telling yourself that. 4.1.15 says otherwise.
then she is entitled to a military funeral. For that matter so am I
I hate that she was Air Force. We were taught to be better than than in basic
She doesnt deserve a damn thing, but if she is entitled by long standing rules then her family will get the military honors for her.
And that's who it should go to. Her family
Well, since she is deceased, kinda looks like it will go to the family and not her.
That's one unfounded opinion.
I'm not the one who said that
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Never a correction or admitting to a mistake
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Per DoD, funerals with military honors require
Don't see any caveat regarding "capital crimes" as a disqualified member.
Hint - hint - show me???
This seems(?) official. It claims to be a DoD website.
Military Funeral Honors Eligibility
The following persons are not eligible for military funeral honors:
I assume that they had to have been indicted at least?
I don’t know. If I really wanted to delve deep, I’d have to see the law, which might be UCMJ or some other US Code. And even then, there may be case law on it.
Like if cops are chasing a suspected murderer, and he dies in the attempt to subdue him, how would that count? I don’t know. In the eyes of cops, at least, he committed a capital crime and he was fleeing.
And even then the secretaries of the armed services have discretion.
No record of that happening.
The problem with that is there was no arrest, there were no charges. Just her murder.
So, reality is, she and her family are owed the honors despite the crying of the Democrats and the left.
Thanks Tacos - don't know why "Google" didn't bring that one up during my search.
Greg, thank you for posting this.
She was murdered.
What do you suggest the officer should have done after she breached the locked and barricaded door ?
Maybe a taser? What would you be saying if she was a person of color?
The same thing.
The cop was faced with a violent mob. They werent violent you say ? The hell they werent. He was 5 feet away from people bashing in the windows that stood between him and the mob, and about 25 feet away from the entrance to the House Of Representatives, whose protection was his job.
How many people were really surprised when he shot her? Very very few. It was his job to keep everyone from breaching that door.
Ashley Babbitt's death was tragic, I dont think she thought she was volunteering to lose her life for Donald Trump, but that was the result.
Lets say the mob broke through and there were still 20 representatives in that chamber - would their safety have been in danger then?
No evidence has ever surfaced that the so called "mob" was there to harm the representative, as videos show many of them wandering around the building being escorted by guards,
Really? When a 300 pound man who'd already tried to steal an officer's gun turned and charged him, you called it murder when the officer shot him. But a petite, unarmed woman is a threat to life, huh?
You are the king of whataboutism on NT.
Babbitts size has nothing to do with what the cop was required to do.
Do you have any condemnation for a mob that was bashing in a door that was clearly locked and BARRICADED? Barricaded in itself should have signaled to the mob that there were serious consequences for breaching that door. What lawful person tries to enter a room that was barricaded off by law enforcement?
Of course it does. She was unarmed. Size is incredibly important when guns aren't involved. It's why combat sports have weight classes.
ou have any condemnation for a mob that was bashing in a door that was clearly locked and BARRICADED?
Of course. It just strains belief that you can defend this shooting and call the Brown shooting murder. [deleted][✘]
Act like Kevin Bacon in Animal House
"All is well!"
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The answer to that quesztion is really no..........they were stupid but not THAT stupid and had they got in, they probably would have slipped and fell in the puddles where the reps pissed themselves............or more.
Where was Nadler by the way?
Short answer, no they wouldn't.
The very people who have their panties in a wad over what happened that day are the same people who supported the 2020 riots over a drug addicts overdose.
Exactly. This isn’t about the guard or Ashli Babbitt. They could give a shit about either of them. It’s about Trump and nothing else.
And are supporting attacks on law enforcement still today.
Ddduuhhhh - with all the videos available for you to review, how 'bout providing the one(s) showing were she "breached the locked and barricaded door".
We'll wait.
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Yes, Ashli Babbitt attempted to enter a locked and barricaded door inside the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. Multiple sources confirm that she was shot while trying to climb through the broken window of a door leading to the Speaker’s Lobby, which had been barricaded by furniture and guarded by armed officers24.
🔐 Security Context
The Speaker’s Lobby is adjacent to the House chamber, where members of Congress were being evacuated.
The door was physically barricaded and visibly damaged, with shattered glass panes.
Capitol Police had issued verbal warnings and drawn weapons to prevent entry.
📸 What Happened
Babbitt was part of a crowd trying to breach the final barrier to the House chamber.
She attempted to climb through the broken window when she was shot by Lt. Michael Byrd, a Capitol Police officer.
The shooting was later deemed lawful and within department policy, with investigators concluding it likely prevented further harm to lawmakers.
Jesus Christ man, it is on video. On the video you can see them tying to bash in the door, you can see that the door is barricaded , you can see seven seconds pass from the time the cop shows his gun and babbitt climbed through the window , and during those seven seconds people were yelling "he's got a gun". WTF was wrong with her ?
Most of this thread was removed for taunting and no value. Knock it off. Only warning.
Great movie that could never be made today.
So was George Floyd.
Not according to the coroner.
He overdosed because he was a POS druggie.
Nothing more, but keep falling at the feet of his statue.
Self inducted drug overdose isn't murder.
The more people try to promote debunked bullshit as fact the less credibility they have.
So what babbit, she got what she deserved.
Let me put my knee on your neck for 9 minutes... Then we can talk.
LOL I am aware... What did the jury decide again?
When we were looking into a military cemetery for my father (including full military honors) it was during a time when a person was actually being dug up because they found out he murdered someone and could no longer be buried there. It was one of the few times a person has lost military honors. It was specifically because of the murder. Don't think Ashley rises to that.
This comment is idiotic.
This seed is idiotic. She was honorably discharged so she earned military honors at her funeral. Your opinion on the issue doesn’t matter.
Get over it.
The really bad thing here is that the Biden administration refused her that earned honor.
"The really bad thing here..." is TAX PAYERS had to cough up 5 million because her family raised a TRAITOR !!!! [deleted][✘]
Some folks play fast and loose with terms like fascist and TRAITOR.
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