The Unspeakable Evil Progressives Have Unleashed Strikes in Charlotte
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
On August 22d, an ethereally lovely, 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee named Iryna Zarutska finished up her shift at the pizzeria in Charlotte where she worked. Still in her black t-shirt and khaki pants uniform, blonde hair up under the business's ballcap, Zarutska got on the Charlotte Area Transit System's (CATS) light rail train for the trip home.
As most everyone would do, she parked in an aisle seat and immediately began to check her phone. After a work shift, she seems to have been pretty engrossed in it, as you'd imagine, especially at her age. Plus, there's always the comfort of having something to read in a sparsely filled car populated with strangers.
Get your seat, mind your own business, and get off at your stop.
Iryna Zarutska never left that car.
Unbeknownst to her, when she found a seat and pulled out her phone, besides being a turnstile jumper, the man slouched across the two seats directly behind her, whom someone described as 'looking emotional,' was a monster. A deranged beast who would suddenly do something so unspeakably savage to the slender wisp of a girl in the seat before him that it beggars description.
The girl who left the wartorn devastation of her home country in search of something better and safer, and started over in the Queen City.
This still shot horror isn't a Netflix creation.
You are either on the side of the young woman or the animal who slaughtered her
Time for choosing pic.twitter.com/haoamy1fFo
— Jim Hanson (@JimHansonDC) September 6, 2025
This is beyond evil and so ghastly, it's unfathomable .
...The video above shows different angles on the rail car before and after the deadly attack. WBTV edited together pieces of surveillance footage, excluding video of the actual stabbing.
The first clip shows the stabbing suspect, identified as Brown, sitting on the rail car before Zarutska boards the light rail. Brown can be seen moving around in his seat and appears to be emotional.
The next clip shows one angle of Zarutska entering the rail car and sitting down in front of Brown. The clip that follows is another angle showing Zarutska entering the rail car and sitting down.
About one minute and 30 seconds into the video, Brown can be seen taking out a pocket knife, unfolding it, standing up, and gearing up to attack Zarutska. WBTV froze that clip moments before Zarutska is stabbed.
In the full video, WBTV observed the attacker swing his arm and stab Zarutska three times in the throat area before walking away. Zarutska looked visibly shocked by the attack, falling to the floor shortly after.
Iryna Zarutska died there. The barbarous, murderous creature folded his knife and walked away.
At least one of the passengers ran to her side as the savage left.
This had been a real life, just beginning a new, hopeful chapter.
It was stolen from her by the progressives wallowing in toxic empathy who enabled a career criminal named Decarlos Brown Jr.. A repeat offender whom the city of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County allowed to wander the streets even after 14 felony arrests and a five-year prison stint.
Prosecutors kept turning this guy loose.
...Brown has 14 previous court cases in Mecklenburg County. He was sentenced to six years in North Carolina prison after convictions for robbery with a dangerous weapon, breaking and entering, and larceny in Mecklenburg County in 2015. The convictions were for two separate incidents in 2013 and 2014, according to jail records.
Zarutska's was a real life that wasn't important enough, no matter how horrific her passing, because it would hurt the narrative, the carefully constructed narrative.
If you weren't from the local area, did any of you hear about it?
I never had until yesterday, and that is only because the security video from that fateful few minutes on the CATS light rail car came bursting into public consciousness. Shamefully, only after members of the Charlotte City Council intervened personally in an attempt to block release of the ghastly footage and were foiled.
And, dear GOD - the horror reportedly on that video. Just reading about it made me nauseous ( Video available here at WBTV ).
That precious, innocent girl and that monster.
That monster whom the progressive, BLM-loving, DEI-mad woke rulers of the Queen City had embraced and are embracing still.
The mayor of Charlotte, another incompetent female of the progressive genus who has had her hooks in the city since 2017 (and shame on voters), is making sure to excuse the killing. Insisting even as horrified viewers watch a slaughtered refugee's blood drip on their own light rail car, that the city ' can't arrest our way out of this .' These poor, confused souls.
TOXIC EMPATHY
How would she know? You'd have to actually try to prosecute whoever you arrest before you claim such a thing.
The mayor of Charlotte blames the savage stabbing of an innocent woman on “mental health disease” which she says should be treated with “compassion” in the same way that we treat cancer. Mental health has become an excuse for all human evil. That was always the intention. The… pic.twitter.com/XWjvZUpwhQ
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) September 6, 2025
Vi Lyles never mentioned Iryna's name as she made excuses for the murder until the video was released.
For the record, if someone ever violently murders me in an innocuous public setting, I want my family and my friends to raise hell about it. I would not have wanted you to be compassionate. I would want you to avenge me.
Thanks. https://t.co/H1qNJwT7Gi
— L (@SomeBitchIIKnow) September 7, 2025
TOXIC EMPATHY
And now this darn light rail car security camera release is making them all look bad.
Today, she is weeping crocodile tears for the victim, asking people not to share the horrific video images - respect for the victim's family, you know, not because it's damning for the city - and Mayor Lyles is suddenly ' THINKING HARD ABOUT SAFETY. '
You sound more angry towards people sharing the footage than you are towards the violent thug who stabbed Iryna.
Bizarre.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) September 6, 2025
...This was a senseless and tragic loss. My prayers remain with her loved ones as they continue to grieve through an unimaginable time.
Like so many of you, I’m heartbroken — and I ’ve been thinking hard about what safety really looks like in our city. I remain committed to doing all we can to protect our residents and ensure Charlotte is a place where everyone feels safe.
It's bizarre that she and the Charlotte city government have apparently never done so before this.
This attack is nothing new for the Charlotte rail system, and Decarlos Brown Jr is not an aberration. Not a one-off by any stretch of the imagination.
Regular occurrence for women on Charlotte public transit, apparently. https://t.co/v7bV9CwjS1 pic.twitter.com/hJRzZ8cDm9
— L (@SomeBitchIIKnow) September 7, 2025
And yet?
The city only hired a safety and security officer for the CATS system at the beginning of this month, after this vicious murder, and while under pressure to release the video.
PATHETIC
...CATS officials said during a public transit meeting on Sept. 2 they have hired a chief safety and security officer, tripled the safety budget and started replacing aging cameras with high-tech upgrades since the killing. Security officers have also been more visible on trains since the attack .
On Sept. 22, CATS will ask the city council for a partnership with the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department to have more police on buses and trains. CATS officials also said Friday that they released the video due to media requests.
For all the talk of ' thinking hard about what safety looks like ,' according to folks who have to ride the light rail , that's all the mayor's doing.
They're not seeing anything that makes them believe there's extra security.
... We rode the light rail on Friday from about 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m., starting at the East-West station in South End near where the stabbing happened.
We went round-trip for about 20 stops total. We did not see a single security officer.
“I do think they need to step up some more measures, I don’t know what that looks like,” said the rider who did not want to be identified.... The agency told city leaders this week that they are also focused on fare enforcement. They do not believe Brown had a ticket.
Rider Marwa Daud believes it makes a difference when riders know that security is checking to see if people paid because it gets people off the light rail who mean to cause problems and keeps others who need it on.
“I feel like they’re not there just to create chaos, they’re there to go from point A to point B,” said Daud.
Welp. Thinking is what progressives do best.
It's doing things they have problems with.
“The American Dream” pic.twitter.com/YVXeOB7YZw
— Graham Banks Cull (@1GrahamDaily) September 6, 2025
For Miss Zarutska, who only wanted that better life?
This was the 23-y-old Ukrainian war refugee Iryna Zarutska.
She was stabbed to death on a train in Charlotte, North Carolina by the repeat offender Decarlos Brown Jr.
We don’t have to live like this 🇺🇸🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/K5wJsCYpCA
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 6, 2025
May her memory always be a blessing to those who loved her.
Toxic empathy and progressive government are a killer combination, as I am entirely convinced they are designed to be.
There are no sympathy marches for the victims, no weepy righteous statements of empathy from elected progressive officials for the movement's sacrificial lambs, be they a 6-year-old black child or an 84-year-old grandmother shot and killed as one of any fifty-plus shootings in an average Chicago weekend of black-on-black carnage. No high-profile visits to the families of another grandfather or teenager who was shoved from a platform to their death in front of an oncoming commuter train in New York City by yet another one of the city's homocidal, lunatic homeless felons.
Because you can't arrest your way out of that.
No mention of the name of a refugee who worked at a pizzeria and was simply trying to get home when another progressive privileged victim-class multiple felon plunged a knife at least three times into her neck as she sat quietly, checking her phone after work.
At least, there was no mention until the heinous, most foul nature of the slaughter and the official stonewalling became too much to conceal.
Then the crocodile tears flowed, but only as long as they could be used to defend the indefensible. ' Respect for the family' became the rallying cry for those desperate to conceal the baseness and brutality of the ugly truth.
And 'compassion' - progressives are always with big compassion for the guy with the knife.
You want an explanation for this horrific murder and the skyrocketing rates of violent crime in Charlotte? It's because this has been the priority of our Public Safety Department for the last few years.
And now our mayor @ViLyles tells us that this brutal killer is like… https://t.co/5580xRyqde pic.twitter.com/MINEHrJXDL
— Megan Basham (@megbasham) September 6, 2025
... And now our mayor @ViLyles tells us that this brutal killer is like someone suffering from "cancer" and needs our "compassion."
Toxic empathy and progressive government are a killer combination.
And it IS progressives - don't ever let them gaslight you into thinking differently.
The dumber ones say it out loud .
It's never anyone close to them on their progressive sacrificial altar, so they don't care.
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— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) September 7, 2025
People in these cities need to wake up to the fact that they are nothing but rodents used for feeding predators in the grand progressive social experiment.
This is wild pic.twitter.com/D0MtyAbNNX
— LASHY BILLS (@LASHYBILLS) September 7, 2025
Nobody HAS to live like this.
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14 felony arrests and walking the streets....
This is a choice. Most Progressives inoculate themselves from their "empathetic" approaches to crime by living in well policed and secure enclaves that do not let the DeCarlos Browns of the world anywhere near them. Once they have the means, most will never willingly be near a DeCarlos Brown at night by themselves.
But they are more than happy to let the Iryna Zarutskas run that risk so they can pat themselves on the back about how empathetic they are in standing up to a "corrupt" legal system that isn't "equitable". They don't pay the price for the pro crime policies they put in place.
versus 34 felony convictions and living in the white house ...
Now, back to the topic
by that link, I'll assume the topic is black males killing white females in southern red states, which I guess makes both murders more heinous than all the other murders that took place in america on either of those dates.
Because as 'any' good 'American' can see and 'know' - Blacks are not really capable of keeping up and being one with us! And, it is plain to see that they do not assimilate well at all! /S
The link for this is an unsupported claim on X. I looked him up in the court records. Does he have a criminal record? Yes, unquestionably . But not to the tune of 14 felonies. Prior to becoming a murderous psycho, he appears to have been a garden variety asshole with a history of unremarkable thefts. In addition to the crimes being reported, we’re talking about shoplifting, simple assault, misusing 911 - nothing that screams “life in prison.” And he did serve time for his crimes. He wasn’t simply cut loose.
I think it would take a much deeper dive to establish that the local government somehow let an obviously psychotic killer wander the streets.
But even after the deep dive, likelihood of this incident being a direct result of supposedly "leftist" policies or out of control empathy? ZERO. The dishonest rightwing conservatives are simply throwing shit because they have no actual plan to fix things other than to whine and complain.
It is why the self-righteous were instructed by Jesus to 'consider' their own ways and manners first and foremost before seeking to attack others for their shortcomings! They, the self-righteous were found to be hypocrites at every turn when they did not consider themselves and their attitudes first!
pffft, fake geezus said that, maga geezus doesn't teach that woke bullshit ... /s
It would seem you do not think that the "MAGA geezus" would have let anybody tack him to a cross and become a sacrifice . But, what would become of these SINS piling up?!! (RHETORICAL COMMENT.)
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I can't mess with you! You are too much for me. /s
Naturally.
Overhyping this divides instead of unifying us. Indeed, it multiplies the negativity of the incident. What? Did you not know that black men can be cruel and evil just like any other set of people? Do not be caught off guard like that again-I suggest!
Now then, I do have a question: What does "a DeCarlos Brown" mean to you?
A crazy homeless person.
Just like the people of Martha's vineyard will support open borders and oppose ICE deporting illegal aliens but call in the national guard to remove a handful of illegals that DeSantis sends to their island, the people who live in gated communities/rich suburbs with strict zoning laws and overwhelmingly voted for Harris would never let a DeCarlos Brown loiter in their neighborhoods and sleep in their parks. But where poor people live and travel? He can be arrested and set free 20 times and they'll pat themselves on the back for being so empathetic (as long he stay's out of their neighborhood and only bothers the poors)
Sean, come on now. Let the partisanship alone from time to time or altogether. You and I both ought to know why crazy, homeless or "crazy homeless" people live among the common folks and take public transportation which people potentially like 'us' who own cars do not ride on. Because rich people pay the cost annually for the land and their property possessions and investments are extremely costly and frankly ordinary (poor) people barely making it can not afford the repair or 'fix' costs associated with making the owners of such value/s whole.
Let's agree when and where we can. No need to let other people's attitudes and agendas to become ours. We can choose to understand how life works, and by doing so me fair (reasonable) to everybody!
I do not live on 'vineyards' of any kind. But, I wish the best for those individuals living their lives out on vineyards and in 'cushy' surroundings. Why? Because, one day that might be me. . . and I would not wish anybody to begrudge me and mine enough to be cruel, evil, and vindictive to me or mine.
As for crazy people. . . they need to get/accept the help they need before it drives them to severity and delusion. And yes, mentally ill people whom do not take care of themselves will 'fall' through the cracks of society. . . and that USUALLY means that the 'bottom' or 'skid row' won't land them in a high property value zone.
They 'crash' among regular and ordinary people where they somewhat blend in with the 'locals.'
Did "De Carlos" know whom he was murdering?! Did he care if she was a progressive, conservative, or liberal. I'll answer: Obviously not. He is a murderer for whatever reason or ails him! We, me-you-the System-are all 'scandalized' by his murdering this woman. Now then, take your time explaining how it is consistent of your part to indict the system's empathy and equity while when it comes to gun violence your party wants us to consider the individual person as the 'only' cause that brings about a negative effect.
it would've been a lot worse if that white woman wasn't an immigrant ... /s
There are 'fools' that keep scandalizing 'us' - good people. We who want the best for everyone everyday. These crazy people behaviors and actions establish metaphorical minefields for the collective us to have to cross with conservatives on our backs all the way through them!
I didn't have a chance to comment on this much, but there is another issue here. Did anyone notice the reaction of the other people on that train?
What kind of people are they?
The issue of why this guy was on the streets is something the Charlotte authorities should have to address. This rest of this article is near hysteria from the right.
Local murders dont generally get reported as national news
The photo display is interesting, a chance to show 14 black faces of a murderer.
Have Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis etc weighed in with thoughts and prayers yet? If not why not?
Really? Rittenhouse wasn't a national story? Zimmerman? Daniel Penny case? Hell, Jussie Smollett made national news for a black eye and the VP was calling it a lynching... But a girl being stabbed in the throat for using public transportation isn't worth talking about.
A woman got on public transportation, sat down and was stabbed in the throat by a guy
It's to show he's been arrested 14 times....Though I'm curious what color face you think he should have. Or what did you expect it to change to?
How about one photo with the words he's been arrested 14 times?
It’s more powerful showing his face each time he was arrested.
Suddenly your adverse to mug shots?...
All because of the races of the murderer and victim.
Everyone is fully aware, even our "friends" on the left here, that if the races were reversed, the left would be in full meltdown mode and be in the news for a week, if not more.
Even the George Floyd overdose made national news.
And tons more media sympathy and puff pieces abrego Garcia than Iryna Zarutska
Oh, yea, can't forget about the lefts favorite human trafficking, gang member Illegal alien.
"Power(ful)" did nothing for the victims of gun violence with the "intellectuals" in Congress and in state houses, they made a conscious decision to do nothing about their deaths from school violence. But, now they wish to attack when it suits them to troll.
This is a "good" story to discuss. Black people can be stupid, foolish, hateful, and more just like other humans!
Why persist in spreading a known falsehood?
The original autopsy found found:
Then there is part IV:
You shouldn't rely in what others are telling you and look up the reports yourself.
Nothing in your post negated what I said. He didn't die of an overdose. Even according to the medical examiner in the county where the murderous cop was employed.
Nothing in the ME report said he died of murder, but there is much evidence of drug use that probably played a large part into his death.
The manner of death was ruled homicide, unless you're telling us that your knowledge supersedes that of the ME. The jury decides whether that homicide was legal or illegal, and they decided it was consistent with illegal homicide.
By whom?
I just read the report provided in the link in 2.1.11 and nowhere does it say homicide. As a matter of fact, this report about the neck, you know, the place you say he was asphyxiated, shows this...
"NECK: Layer by layer dissection of the anterior strap muscles ofthe neck discloses no areas of contusion or hemorrhage withinthe musculature. The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone areintact. The larynx is lined by intact mucosa. The thyroid issymmetric and red-brown, without cystic or nodular change. The tongue is free of bite marks, hemorrhage, or other injuries.The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free ofhemorrhage."
It is amazing the things you learn if you actually read what is reported. As a matter of fact, there is more in the report about the drugs in his system, his sickle cell and his COVID positive than anything else.
No injuries caused his death. Did you miss the part that states:
Well, you should get better sources than ones posted by people who persist in spreading falsehoods.
Here's a link to the ME's press release.
He says homicide.
Here's an explanation of the death certificate. It also says homicide.
So, yeah, homicide, unless you and Jeremy choose to believe yourselves superior to a medical examiner in determining cause of death. The rest of us will choose the rational path and give credence to the people who know what they're talking about, and aren't spreading falsehoods.
is that supposed to be better than the link to the autopsy report posted in 2.1.11?
So then someone is lying.
The autopsy said his neck area was intact and showed no signs of trauma, but that his drug use and sickle cell was more prevalent, and nothing in the autopsy stated homicide.
My guess, and I am usually correct here, is that whoever signed the death certificate did so as homicide under pressure from the city government because of the racially charged case, and the white cop had to be the one to blame for his death, especially since he had already become a martyr of the lunatic left by that time.
Either way, the POS is no longer on the streets committing other crimes.
That is a huge plus for the city, and they should be thankful of him no longer being a problem.
It gives the ME's ruling on the cause and manner of death. Do you disagree with the ME? If so, on the basis of what expertise?
The autopsy mentioned drug use and sickle cell trait. It did not say it was "more prevalent", nor did it list either as the cause of death.
Moving goalposts, I see.
I'm glad the ME's report removed the POS cop from the streets, too.
Well, George Floyd is dead and people like you can not hurt him anymore with your partisanship. And interestingly, that is a good thing.
Nor did I say that so don't put things on my post that are not there.
I specifically said that the illegal drugs and his sickle cell trait was highlighted in the report more than anything else.
"nor did it list either as the cause of death."
Nor did it list "homicide" as the caude".
"Moving goalposts, I see."
Pot, meet kettle
"I'm glad the ME's report removed the POS cop from the streets, too."
The ME did not remove the cop, the woke local government caused the removal. Any good police department or unbiased investigation would have found the cop's actions within the department's guidelines......as it was.
The police department folded under the racist rants of BLM.
Should have just left it there, then your post would have been more accurate.
Your words:
Yes, you did say it.
Context, Sandy, context....at least that is what we are preached here.
I said that his drug use and sickle cell was more prevalent in the report and that was my opinion. If I had meant the report specifically stated that, I would have used the word "and", not "but'.
It's all about the context.
Nope. When you said
you attributed those words to the medical examiner by way of the autopsy. Grammar and syntax matter, bugsy.
"Bugsy," bugsy, bugsy, I'm good with my statement.
I go with the official report. The report that is quoted and linked in 2.1.11.
You go ahead and believe what you want and what you are told by a video with 2 unknown people talking about a oversized death certificate that has no proof of being real.
I will take the word of the ME that actually looked at the body and made the conclusion that he/she did.
Same here, but to some on the left, "official" means "only if I agree with it".
As did I, Jeremy. You gave it your own interpretation, different from that of the ME. Do you have any qualifications that indicate we should value your opinion in this matter over his?
The ME said homicide. The jury said murder. Jeremy is perpetuating falsehoods, and you're helping.
Like I said...you believe what you are told. The rest of us will go by official documents from the ME.
There is no interpretation given on my part. It's pretty hard to misunderstand
It appears that the ME contradicts his own offices report.
I never gave an opinion. I quoted and linked fact. Now if that fact interferes with what you want to believe, that's on you. It's not my problem.
Appears that way.
The official document from the ME says homicide.
Based on what?
That claim, BTW, is an interpretation on your part.
Read the link you sent, the news report. Then read the actual report I linked. You don't see the contradiction?
I made no claim. I quoted and linked fact.
Your report does not state anything about death being the result of an overdose. It merely lists the drugs in his system, and their amounts.
But it does say:
So how do you get to your foil hat conclusion with a report stating that?
No one ever said it was the cause.
It was a contributor, along with COVID, which is normally a respiratory deficiency and sickle cell.
Because asphyxia can occur without serious trauma.
Obviously you didn't read the report linked in 2.1.11. Take a read and you'll see that there is no evidence of your claim.
Positional asphyxia is a thing, Jeremy. It's why law enforcement officers are trained not to restrain a person in the prone position for long periods of time. Chauvin acted in defiance of his own department's policy on this one. There are reasons for this policy. It's because it's been known for decades that the restraint techniques Chauvin used can be fatal.
In fact, let's see what the defense's medical expert says about positional asphyxia. You know, he's the one who was paid to say that the murderous cop didn't commit murder.
It gets worse for Dr. Fowler and his employers
They killed him, and they failed to render aid once he'd lost consciousness.
Read. The. Linked. Report. Quit scrambling and relying on what others tell you to think.
There was no evidence of injury to cause asphyxia, there were no physical injuries that lead to death.
There were drugs in his system, heart problems, heart disease, hypertensive heart disease, history of hypertension, COVID. This combination may have lead to death. Nothing physical as pushed by the left such as a knee on his neck.
And if you are trying to justify the position asphyxia with his complaints of "I can't breathe" you can stop. He was making that claim long before anybody touched him.
I read it.
Unless you have medical expertise to back your point, your assertions have no credibility.
Many people have hypertension. Most of theme aren't going to go into cardiac arrest in the next few minutes.
He had drugs in his system at non-lethal levels for him.
He had Covid. Haven't conservatives been telling us it was "just a cold"? He didn't die of Covid.
You want to use the autopsy report to support your point, right up until the ME who wrote the report makes his determination about the cause and manner of death. Then, you disagree, and expect us to give more credibility to your opinion than to his.
Hilarious.
What do you do when there are two contrasting autopsies?
I'd go with the one more deadly accurate than the other
Then what's the issue?
I made no assertion. I quoted the report. If you have issue with that then take it up with the ME that signed the report.
In this case, you go with the original.
The second was paid for by the family to find something, anything to place blame anywhere but the real cause of death.
Ah, the shuffle.
Then why do you have trouble acknowledging that it can still be a homicide, in light of the fact that the witness hired by Chauvin's defense admitted that
I mean, that witness really wanted it to not be homicide. He had a pattern.
And he still couldn't deny that asphyxiation can and often does occur in the absence of trauma.
But here you are, trying to deny what a biased medical examiner had to admit under oath. Your denial has less credibility than that of a disgraced, obviously racially biased ME.
If I were a leftist, I would believe the one that aligns with my beliefs and what I was told to believe.
No but the mayor of Charlotte did. I wonder why the loons on the left did not attack her for it. s/
The story implies this tragedy was foreseeable and preventable, but I don’t see how.
14 arrests, but two convictions, for which he served significant prison time. The author seems to be trying to give readers the idea that this guy was convicted - or at least clearly guilty - of 14 dangerous or deadly acts and blithely ignored by the government. That doesn’t appear to be the case.
His two convictions for a B&E and a robbery don’t imply something as deranged as this murder, and no one is getting locked up for life for crimes like that.
That's a massive problem, probably starting with a pro crime DA.
Sure enough, per CHATGPT:
Arrest and dismiss the charges. Typical.
There’s no way to judge without a complete record.
It baffles me when people say stuff like this. I’ve met a lot of prosecutors, and I have yet to meet one who was “pro crime.”
Ha, did you work in L.A. county?
If DAs had everything they wanted - unlimited prosecuting attorneys, unlimited investigators, unlimited courtrooms and judges such that calendars were never full, infinite jail space, etc. - it would be a different world. There would be zero deals. Prosecutors would be willing to take every case to trial. And we’d definitely have a lot more people in jails and prisons.
But that’s not the world. We have finite resources. People who have been arrested have a right to a speedy trial. If prosecutors can’t be ready for trial, the case gets dismissed. If the jails are overflowing, prosecutors have to prioritize the cases they want to prosecute.
I haven’t surveyed 100% of prosecutors, but the idea that any of them are “pro crime,” as Sean said, is ridiculous.
... uh, you are familiar with all of trump's federal nominees and appointees, right?
Well, they might pro-their own corruption, but they aren’t pro-random criminal they don’t know.
restorative justice and refusing to prosecute criminals is pro crime, whether they call it that or not.
Yeah ok. I see it’s Ignore Context Day. Again.
No one has, they only exist in the fever dreams of white nationalist bigots who think every black person belongs in jail and who fantasize about some coming race war where the white nationalists and white supremacists will take up their stockpiled arsenals and start shooting anyone who doesn't look like them or pray like they do. In their incredibly stupid corroded minds, they see any prosecutor who supports rehabilitation programs as being "pro-crime".
How many more criminals can our prisons hold? I hear that in this country we have more criminals than those in truly 'desperate' countries. . . some of them with their respective prison statistics combined together to match our single prison congestion and court docket listings.
The context is exactly what Sean stated.
You don’t have any idea.
These "desperate countries" also have harsher punishments for crimes.
What I'm not doing is taking your fiction as "context".
I see little to nothing to be gained by commenting with you. So please, resume shunning me. Have a nice day!
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There are a lot of other possibilities here.
If you're the DA and you know you can't get enough evidence for a conviction, you're going to prosecute higher probability cases. Same thing if they know the judge is soft, or if the judge is racially biased or if the jail is so overcrowded it's turning people out, etc, etc, etc.
If the victims won't give statements because they know this piece of shit will be out on the street before the weekend no matter what, you don't have anything to work with.
If you've ever worked in the public sector, you've undoubtedly had many situations where you know exactly what needs to be done, but the system completely ties your hands.
So it MAY be that the DAs are soft on crime, but it seems like there are more probable explanations.
That's a fair set of scenarios. Also, criminals may be violent and dangerous people. . .and many of them are smart in other areas of life and how to to survive (crafty) in how to navigate our systems with flexible thinking. That is a type of scenario too.
Exactly. And this guy clearly was.
Absolutely. He was flexible enough in his thinking that in multiple arrests for violent offenses, there is not a mark on him in any of this mugshots. He clearly chooses victims who he knows cannot or will not fight back.
He's been arrested 14 times. The probability that he was arrested for every crime he's committed is exceedingly small. Committing that many crimes without getting shot, stabbed, beat up, or even scratched in the process requires some very flexible thinking and very clinical victim selection.
Not exactly what I meant when suggesting he (and other criminals) 'flex' the systems of law. I mean they have 'wits' to outsmart the systems of law and lawmakers. Some people, up and down society, have the mental acumen to ask for—and receive—breaks in the system or to find, access, and exploit gray areas of our well-crafted and well-intentioned laws.
(I mean, how do you know when a person is going to 'crack' and mentally vacate or 'trigger' on someone nearby? Is it of a 'one-off' nature? Reminds me of the crazy people that 'bump' people into ongoing traffic at a red-light or stop sign or push a car onto the tracks in front of a speeding train, or push people onto subway/trolley tracks when the cars are approaching.)
Ah. Yes. That too. Well spotted.
Uhhh whut?
Funny thing about me is (I was just mentioning this on another article) I 'blink out' when anybody spits on me. As the kids say, I "lose my s/h/i/t/" if somebody spits on me and I have to be taken aside and allowed to calm down afterwards. So it is good for me that I do not hang around people that wish to abuse me that way.
But it is hard to know what blinks out any one of us-its so many of us for which 'triggers' of the worst sort can happen.
You make the assumption that he is habitually attacking people.
I had chatGPT do a fairly thorough search (it took well over a minute and a half) and here is what it found:
I dug a bit deeper trying to find a definitive list of arrests and crimes, but the publicly available data on those is limited. I think if they were known, the tenor of the article suggests that they would have been mentioned if they were especially violent. Either that or the reporter was using simple methods and could not be bothered to pick up a phone or make inquiries of the NC public records apparatus.
You're not wrong to be that way.
Kind of like that. Of course, I have no idea if- "if" will ever occur. Here's just doing my best to be the 'best.'
I'm not assuming anything. He's a convicted violent criminal. He's been arrested 14 times and got away with God knows how many more. This is not some guy who did a single terrible thing and later repented of his violent ways.
I think you're very generous calling the author of this thing a "reporter". It reads more like a blind tirade.
Yes, you are. You are assuming that his past behavior was as violent as his present behavior. It looks to me as if he started small with shoplifting, moved to grand larceny,etc. Do I know this? No. But neither do you know that he has perpetually been a scumbag who doesn't mind sticking a knife in a poor, unsuspecting and defenseless girl.
He is mentally ill.
I believe that may have had a great deal to do with his criminal history. In my experience, people tend to exhibit symptoms of a lesser degree at first, then episodically get worse. After years where he may or may not have been on medication they sometimes cross a line into violence. It appears that this may have been the case when he attacked his sister. Follow that up with further excursions into psychosis and you get the call to the police where someone is controlling his actions. At this point is where the people were saying that the system failed him, because at that juncture there should have been a mechanism to remove him from the general population to a hospital setting.
It is incredibly difficult to achieve this end. The system that they were referring to is an example of churn. These people begin having psychosis, they behave erratically, they get arrested and sent to a hospital where they are stabilized by medication and counseling. Once they are deemed fit to leave, they are released into society with a bottle or two of medication and an appointment with a counselor. What happens after that is largely dependant upon how large their support network is and their own cooperation. If they go off their meds, the whole cycle will start again, because they do not think that anything is wrong with them.
In order to deal properly with this churn, we need to acknowledge the realities of mental illness, properly treat the individuals, and provide a safe space where they can figure out the proper medications doses. Some people can actually achieve a normal existence.
It is too late for both he and the girl now. The system failed them both.
There is a very good award winning series on this here.
You're not very good at mind reading.
Your own sources say he was committing violent crimes at least a decade ago.
Riiiiiight. We're just supposed to assume he would never have actually used the weapon in the armed robbery? And 14 arrests says he's a scumbag.
It's in plain english...
Sloppy wording on my part-- Your commentary indicates that you don't understand how mental illness works. As well as the link given in my comment, there are many good books on schizophrenia and schizophrenic behaviors. Do yourself and your world view a favor and listen to the podcasts, read some of the literature.
Forgive me if I am trespassing (because somehow I feel what I am about to write may be "C" in an "A' + "B" situation), but Jack_Tx tamp it down a bit. We see the same 'record' you see. . . and either come to different conclusion based on many factors or simply put do not see it as rising to the level of a 'final solution' - 'S-h-i-t-c-a-n-n-i-n-g this guy FOR LIFE!
Clearly, the multiple officials in charge either were hamstrung by policy/ies or law or maybe even by 'heart' - it is not their failure for following the 'way forward' that details require or offer them.
As for us, we 'arrive' at this after the fact. We can do nothing to bring this young woman back as she is gone forever. (Sigh.)
Now, if we could turn back time and stop him 'cold' or 'dead' even in his tracks. . . I, for one, would 'drop the bomb' on him. Even you would be hard-pressed to resist the case law or policy arguments that would pound your senses - if as an official, serving others, you ignored what your fellow professionals were telling you about this man. . .and his freedom (requirements) under law as it stands today.
We get your point in hindsight. And with a 'light-hearted' touch . . . . As a movie points out: Minority Report (2002) we need foreknowledge to preemptively end crimes, but then the problem would be what we would have to do to the Precogs (people who see the future in the movie) to get that information would be a scandal all its own.
I hope something (up above) helps calm the mind. . . as this is a terrible situation. Honestly, we see terrible situations for people all day-everyday—up to and touching today.
And yours indicates an unreasonably high level of determination to excuse inexcusable behavior.
Apparently, you want us to believe that his mental illness was the driver behind 14 different arrests, and yet he served 6 years in prison under daily surveillance without a diagnosis? That at no point in that high pressure situation did he start hearing voices and attack another inmate? Did his crazy somehow go into remission? Or is it somehow selective and only manifests when he's not around people who can fight back?
It seems a very unusual situation where your mental illness causes you to behave almost exactly like other scumbag criminals who are perfectly sane.
Over 3 1/2 million Americans suffer from schizophrenia. The VAST majority do not commit violent crimes.
So we have a combination of a scumbag, some mental illness, and some mixture of robust ineptitude, industrial grade apathy toward public safety and political virtue signaling reframing criminals as victims.
A little old fashioned, non-AI research might have led you to this:
Jack, have you read and considered the AI-Perplexity information excerpt at 9 below?
Clearly, something went wrong with the systems, and yet nobody with sense is going to throw away the systems of law-they will simply improve upon it. Maybe do so in this young woman's name (law-making).
It may be that if fault is found to be a governance problem in this situation. . . a price can be extracted to make this dead woman's family 'whole.' It is all that the system is going to-more or less-as the system can not bring her back to life or so far permanently end mental illness which pops up in these situations.
Mental illness is tricky. Just ask the professionals whom deal with this all the time. People can be insane, confused, or emotionally crippled in one area of their life and sound otherwise to the onlooking world. "Working alcoholics" is a quick example. "Tweekers" another example.
The point being, just because someone has a mental ISSUE, singular, does not mean they are not as SMART as the Joker and/or the Penquin (yes BATMAN series references) in other scenarios where they need to extricate or hide the severity of mental disease.
CB, you know me well enough to know I adjust my responses to match the level of the other people in the conversation.
That doesn't make it any better. That simply makes excuses for a different set of people.
But that's the issue. We can't turn back time. We need to make these decisions while they are still available.
"Negligence" is defined as " the failure to behave with the level of care that a reasonable person would have exercised under the same circumstances. "
We don't need foreknowledge. We need the spine to act with a reasonable level of care even when our "heart" doesn't want to.
So define "reasonable level of care" -succinctly if you wish. I want to see what 'final solution' in this man's case looks like from a Jack_Tx perspective
It's the level of caution and attention and ordinary, prudent person would have used in the same instance.
Jack, that is a succinct and vague response. It leaves me asking again for your perspective which you have largely been hinting at all throughout this board. Please give a 'direction' that we can solidly state and reflect on what you wish to see as outcome to prevent this man's (and future men like himself) murderous problem/public mental breakdown.
It is too easy (underwhelming) to throw out a 'slam' that implicates liberal politicians as being too impractical on mental illness or 'sick' criminals. There is policy and law involved here. So. . . let's go deeper or just stop with what we can know without plumbing the depths of this.
You specifically asked for succinct. It's a legal term you can research further at your leisure.
As we've just discussed, it's too late for this man. It's also too late for Iryna. A significant number of people who should have acted failed to do so. At this point, all that is left is to lock him away for the rest of his life so that he does not present a danger to himself or the rest of us.
Liberal politicians have spent decades carefully building a reputation for caring more about criminals than public safety. You'll never hear a conservative screaming to "defund the police".
In real life, we start in elementary schools with a balancing act between redeeming those who behave badly and protecting those they victimize. That continues throughout society. At some point, the acknowledgement must happen that you deserve to be safe at least as much as the criminal who would stab you.
And vagueness? That is not helpful I have to confirm. I did not hint at any vagueness as being beneficial.
Again, we are back to where I kindly asked: I want to see what 'final solution' in this man's case [based on his arrest history] looks like from a Jack_Tx perspective.
Your not getting any excuses from me, merely explanations and alternate scenarios that also fit the known facts.
Since I just lost the post that I had been working for 3 hours, I am saying fuck it. I am tired of trying to explain things to someone who has their mind made up.
Go listen to the podcasts I linked.
Go read I Am Not Sick! I Don't Need Help.
Listen to CB, he seems to know much more about the subject than you.
Know that your view is just one way of viewing all of the facts, and just because they are listed in a particular sequence in an article, that in no way determines the completeness or the timeline.
And your timeline is wrong.
I will let you figure that out with your good old fashioned research techniques.
Pretty vague yourself, there, CB.
Be specific. What do you mean by "final solution" and why do you imagine that sort of verbiage is remotely appropriate here?
You're not "explaining" anything. You're offering your own conjecture.
Never said it wasn't.
I have said, however, that none of us have all the facts, nor are we ever likely to get them.
Take it up with Newsweek.
Please let's go, Jack. You indicate with your "verbiage" that you understand the phrase. Now then, since you ask the question about the phrase, let me be clear. . . I wish you to get to the final POINT of your concern about people whom have and build long-track criminal or criminal-like records. All along in this discussion you seem to have a plan or 'solution' to the problem of repeat offenders and how the authorities should behave concerning them. I wish to read that 'solution.'
That is, my request made simple.
That's your idea of "simple"?
When someone shows you they are a violent threat to society, believe them. Keep them off the streets.
Newsweek did not claim any timeline between the two histories. You assumed a timeline. Just like you assumed his behavior was intrinsic to his character.
And yes I was explaining how a mental illness such as schizophrenia can progress because I have seen several times and read of more confirmed accounts of it happening inthatmanner. I am not speaking from a point of total conjecture, I am speaking from personal knowledge.
But you do not give a shit because you have seen limited evidence, pronounced the verdict, and delivered the sentence in your own blind way. I hope that no one you are close to ever has to deal with mental health issues like these, because then you would realize the ignorance from which you speak.
Not sure where you get the 'violence' from in his background. . . and let's assume that you have his 'bio' (I do not). The issue you brought forward:
What is the PERSPECTIVE you want us to consider on how this man could have been reined in ("corraled") by law to avoid him being on a bus where he would stab a woman to death.
That is all I am asking you (several times now) for: Your perspective.
Racist dog whistles. Sexist dog whistles. What other bases are we going to hit?
They hit pretty hard on their new favorite, "toxic empathy"
The guy is schizophrenic, but without a clear determination that he presented a danger to himself or others, there was no legal reason to hold him.
14 occasions where he "presented a danger to himself or others" - want reasons? 14 reasons.
Not enough?? Let him out again and watch the charts.
You don’t even know why he was arrested.
14 times a negates the need to know why......................FFS, how many does it take?
Neither do you - your point?
Well, perhaps they'll be happy to learn I have exactly zero empathy for any of these rightwing religious bigots in America.
Just because a person is arrested that does not mean they are objectively a danger to themselves or others.
Bullshit. That arrest record will keep his life free of a lot of freedoms. Thus, self inflicted danger to themselves. They get pissed at their lot in life and try to increase their perceived self worth by terrorizing others..........simple Napoleon syndrome.
Thank you for the 'diagnosis' - from our apparent psychologist and 'advice nurse.' /s
... until he gets elected POTUS.
Your incoherent rambling is impeccable.
34?
Yet never a day in jail...................unlike the subject perp. They had him IN jail at least 13 times of that 14. Therefore, one must deduce that the lying bullshit of Letisha James is just that. Bullshit. Never before has anyone reached so far to stymy the fair and legal election of PotUS.
Nah.. A society that burns neighbourhoods and calls for the defunding of the police for George Floyd and largely ignores the public butchering of Iryna Zarutska is one that is drowning in the infinity pool of Suicidal Empathy.
Thanks for proving my point.
You hold on to that reeeeal tight.............
That's the real scandal here, huh?
If the girl had said something racist to him and it was on video, the left would be enraged. Her murder is simply not important enough to care about to many progressives.
Imagining is so fun. You can make the world worse than it is, and you don’t even need facts.
I don't think you really care, either. You found this story and posted it so you could load it down with your own fake outrage...because it was a black man that slaughtered a white woman. If it had been the reverse your fake outrage would be greatly subdued
Or, instead of imagining I could read the posts from progressives complaining about his booking photos being published or someone calling the mayor incompetent rather than being bothered by a system that could fail this spectacularly.
I think the key to this whole thing, in terms of the reaction, is the array of 14 photos of him this right wing web site decided to put in a row . Its the same guy for pete's sake - what is the point of 14 photos ? To make people sure to know he was black, and to show a lot of black criminal faces, even it was only one guy.
Don't project your racial issues onto me. I would be very angry at pro crime prosecutors and judges who enabled this to happen if the races were reversed. If you can find a similar case with the racial profile you care about, I'll be more than happy to express my outrage over it.
Somehow that seems to be the mantra of the Dems of [late deleted][✘]
You’re crafting fantasies.
First, that she said something to him and the Left was outraged. That didn’t happen.
Second that “many progressives” don’t care that she was murdered.
And you have “decided” to be outraged about both of these fantasies.
I’m sure anyone who learns about this story will find it to be a terrible thing. But I don’t think most of them are going to care any more or less than they do about any other murder, regardless of their politics.
Ok well you let me know if you spot a fact somewhere in the fantasy. It even starts with “if.”
I am so sick of the exploitation for political purposes of 'everything'! It pollutes our peace in this country. Worse, instead of working together to tag-team problems and problem areas - it just breaks down into finger pointing and instigation. Begs the question as to what's worse the crime or the crime and its after-effects by politicians. . . and politician wannabees.
I am totally despairing over the loss of this young woman's life. Alas, I can not give it back to her or I would gladly. Why? Because she TRUSTED that she would be safe sitting in front of this (black) man. . . she was not offended by his presence. . . and he utterly violated her trust and her life! In reaction, I will have to watch my position on platforms or in seating arrangements—everywhere.
As for those pushing and exploiting this incident. . . let me remind them of the graves of school children whom decades and even months later will get no help from gun violence. . . since it is the refrain (talking point) of conservatives that guns are beyond reproach even when used against kindergarteners and elementary age youths.
‘ If it had been the reverse your fake outrage would be greatly subdued’
Problem is the reverse happens so infrequently.
I don't believe I'm the one with the racial issues. [deleted][✘]
It's tragic. An innocent woman's life taken. I'm sorry it happened. I don;t know what more I can say
Lahtifa Wilson, 26, said that she, her baby sister Nia and a third sister had been returning from a family outing when they were attacked by a man.
"I looked back and he was wiping off his knife and stood at the stairs and just looked. From then on, I was caring for my sister," Wilson told ABC7 News on Monday, speaking outside a family member's home with a bandage on her neck.
Police arrest man suspected in deadly stabbing at Oakland train station
Are hate crimes on the rise? | USAFacts
But I know, the MAGAverse bigots don't want to hear about that stuff, they are desperate for another black on white crime, especially when its a black man attacking a white woman because that just soothes their minds with all that confirmation bias. And of course this is nothing new, these rightwing conservatives have been demonizing blacks in America for a very long time.
, that she said something to him and the Left was outraged. That didn’t happen.
WTF are you talking about? Do you not understand what the word "if" denotes. How can you possibly believe I claimed she said something to him?
econd that “many progressives” don’t care that she was murdered
You've made my point for me. You don’t think most of them are going to care any more or less than they do about any other murder, regardless of their politics.
Wow. That's batshit crazy talk. You and other progressives may think this is murder is worth the same amount of care or concern as a drug dealer shooting another drug dealer over ownership of a corner. But most people are, in fact, capable of distinguishing between the intentional slaughter of an innocent person who did nothing wrong and murders that flow from criminal activity involving criminals for instance .
fa Wilson, 26, said that she, her baby sister Nia and a third sister had been returning from a family outing when they were attacked by a man.
Did this murderer have 14 arrests too? If so, Oakland's administration has a lot to answer for fir this 2018 murder anf that would be a another blue city failure where a known career criminal was let loose to prey on innocent people.
F BI data for 2024 shows that more than half of all reported race-motivated hate crimes
Hate crime? Why would that be relevant here? Is there evidence she was killed for being white?
Here's the numbers for interracial murder, which is what this was:
In 2021, for example: 29% of murdered Hispanics were killed by blacks.
26% of murdered whites were killed by blacks.
But the murdering is mostly in one direction: Only 5% of murdered blacks were killed by whites.
It breaks my heart, and yet I have to go on with living, in spite of it. It cheapens her death that others would exploit her in this manner by trying to prosecute people doing their jobs under the various, varying, and 'gray areas' of law put in place and maintained by local, state, and federal officials! It's just piling on and its disgusting.
This man is a fool for having done this and now the law has to deal with him once and for all! After all of his court cases and challenges he has finally crossed a line that he can not make a come-back!
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Now then, to state the new 'obvious': Now that this article has been written and is achieving "national news," it will not take long for the DOJ to want to add its voice to the procession. I can already hear and visualize the "Law Enforcer in Chief" in the White House ratcheting up the aggressive rhetoric that this (black) man is worthy of nothing less than a quick court date, death sentence, and 'speedy' execution—literally.
Which means what exactly? Do you (really) think whites are more morally perfect than Others? Please elaborate (if you can).
Do most white on white murders occur by white people and is that a problem too for whites? (It's not a trick question.) The answer is: Yes!
To demonstrate that he's a terrible human being, a serial offender, that he obviously preys upon people weaker than himself, and that he should have been locked up well before now in order to protect society.
Take the race out of it for a minute. Pretend this guy is white, has a beard below his collar bone, and is wearing a MAGA hat. You'd be looking at 14 mug shots with a nearly blinding level of rage, and rightfully so.
The vile murder of Nia Wilson was a national story, covered by the New york Times, CNN, Foxnews etc...
Here's how one of the progressive elite responded to it:
Officials said it was “unclear” if the incident was racially motivated, but before the arrest, “the murder sparked protests and activism in real life and social media, as people feared that police would once again neglect the murder of a black person in America”, says Vox .
Hathaway wrote on Instagram: “[Wilson’s death] is unspeakable and must not be met with silence … She was a black woman and she was murdered in cold blood by a white man.
“White people – including me, including you – must take into the marrow of our privileged bones the truth that all black people fear for their lives daily in America and have done so for generations.
past incidents involving white police officers being excluded, of course ...
He was locked up. He served his time. We don’t generally lock people up for life over the kinds of property crimes he did. I don’t think anyone had a reason to expect he would go absolutely bananas, like he did.
Oh yeah - he was "locked up" - he "served his time" - 14 times.
And where did the law enforcement community enforce the "Three Strikes Law" that was passed in 1994 for this individual?
No where - and why not???
It's impossible to say one way or another with any level of information we (the public) are ever going to see. But we know we're talking about a multiple repeat offender with documented psychiatric issues so it's certainly not difficult to make the case that they knew this guy was a much higher risk to society than the average person.
And when he brutally murders this poor girl for no apparent reason, the first comments are all about how the system failed HIM. Him. He's the one the system let down. Tell us you don't care about crime without telling us you don't don't care about crime.
Weird, I hear em too
Maybe because he wasn’t convicted of 14 felonies. Arrests ≠ convictions, and they don’t equal felonies either. I looked up the guy’s record and I did even not see 14 felony arrests, much less convictions. The link supporting that claim in the story goes to a random X post and appears to be wrong.
It seems as though those psychiatric issues became evident after he got out of prison. Regardless, we don’t just lock someone up forever because they have psychiatric issues.
I don’t know, or much care, what everyone else is saying. That has not been the focus of my comments.
‘Weird, I hear em too’
Aaaaand….thanks for proving my point.
Never said that.
"Girl"? Or "female"?
At 23, she's a woman. I noticed how the article focused on how she was "etherally lovely", and, of course, blonde. I wonder why that matters so much?
Actually, I'm pretty sure we all know why.
Just shocking, shocking they complimented the deceased. Another thing to be outraged over, except the breakdown of the judicial system that resulted in a brutal murder. ..
, I' m pretty sure we all know why.
Someone compared this to the murder of Nia Wilson, a young black girl who was murdered by a white man in 2018. Unlike this murder, that became a nationally covered story right after it happened. She was called beautiful among other compliments in a CNN story. Were you outraged ? One CNN story was titled:
Officials still don’t know why a white man allegedly stabbed a black woman to death in a subway station
You seem to hear a lot of dog whistles. Do you hear any here?
See 9 below when you have available time.
Why?
Her sister and father called her beautiful, and were quoted. The journalist writing the story didn't gush over her. Apples and oranges.
Your article uses emotionally charged words, including addressing a woman as "another incompetent female", for reasons, Sean. They don't reflect well on the author.
Yes
WTF does that even mean?
What was that about "racist dog whistles"?
Please, Jack. They were pulling the same crap that got black men lynched in the South - "how dare that dirty black beast even look at our lovely, pure white girls, all peaches and cream!?"
Yes, it's absolutely a racist dog whistle. Unless you happen to believe her death wouldn't have been quite as bad if she hadn't been pretty and blonde.
Your questions read like willful obtuseness.
Okay. If you really think there's some sort of meaningful distinction between who praises the victim. This is from the New Yorker, pretty much the pinnacle of elite media:
. "Wilson was naturally gorgeous, and her skill with makeup only enhanced her beauty."
That's the journalist gushing over the victim.
Praising a murdered person (assuming they aren't criminals themselves ) is pretty much SOP when discussing murder victims. It's simply bizarre to be offended by it.
Was CNN expressly specifying the race of the victim and murderer a racist dog whistle?
aka trolling ...
Ah, yes, the "Cultural Comment" section of The New Yorker. Which, unlike your source, didn't blame "another incompetent male", nor accuse conservatives of unleashing "unspeakable evil".
Ah, yes, and you are holding one of the premier progressive outlets to a lower standard than an op-ed on a blog. If you can't see how ridiculous your anger is over an blog saying nice things about a murdered woman, there's really nothing else I can do.
nor accuse conservatives of unleashing "unspeakable evil".
Oh, and this is where you ignore CNN explicitly pointing out it was a white man who murdered a black woman in it's headline, the mayor of Oakland blaming race for that murder without any evidence, and progressives praising one of their own for blaming all white people for that murder while acting simultaneously offended that a blog called the mayor incompetent and called the slaughter of an innocent woman by career criminal "unspeakable evil"
Still won't comment on whether CNN was engaging in racial dog whistles with that headline I notice.
Good stuff.
The 'running joke' (or myth) of bygone eras: Black men and women can tolerate extremes of pain. And, so they are less fragile than other humans. So beat the hell out of black men and women. . . and, if they don't mind you-kill the bad ones and get new ones.
(That young woman should not have died. I can only imagine how confused she was to be. . .living, planning, developing a future for herself. . .then to feel the sting of pain that would be death. . . and without an explanation of Why. A truly tortuous moment in time. And all the mind can do is reflect on. . .'What-if' - I had not gotten on this train. . .and sat in that seat in front of that (black) man.) My heart is truly broken over this.
Please what? Please ignore the pot calling the kettle black? Please ignore you making crazy projections as assertions of imagined moral superiority?
WTF? Go ahead and cite someone saying something like that.
Fascinating. A singular mention of the word "blonde" in the article is somehow a hidden key to underlying racism. But you didn't offer any objection to the use of the word "rodent".
So your concern is that she is getting more attention because she was pretty and blonde. That says an awful lot of awful.
Jack (I have to interject here and then back off-I hope), it was. . . is called, "White women purity" and in U.S. history it got black men killed as a pretext to sexual interest. Aside: Even biblical Joseph faced a similar situation in regards to Potiphar's wife:
Of course they aren't going to say that outright. We're talking about dog whistles, remember?
Nope. My concern is the fact that this article is race baiting. I'm calling it out. You're defending it.
The point is... it's not happening here.
Back to the pot and the kettle, I see.
I must say, you're on to something here. This whole "dog whistle" pronouncement gives you pretty much a blank check to accuse anybody of anything you want without ever needing any evidence whatsoever.
It's brilliantly Orwellian.
Riiiiiiight. Which explains this focus on her being pretty.
Citation?
Oh.. that's right. Citations are for losers. You can just call "dog whistle" and claim that somebody "meant to" say whatever.
The rhetoric being used harkens back to a bygone era that some liken to "Make America Great Again," (emphasis on: "Again") and all nuance and contrast that such rhetoric encompasses. Surely, you can comprehend this-because I discern you are seriously quite smart.
Okay. Now I must ask: Jack, do you know what 'dog whistle' rhetoric is?
Seriously, I ask this because "white woman purity" is being contrasted to 'savage,' black, and 'monstrous' in this article. You have read it. . . I assume. That is what is occurring.
One thing I notice in this case, our women of NT are calling it out for they see and potentially 'feel' this passive-aggressive writing style and know from whence it comes. . . and can continue.
Aside: By the way, something just occurred to me. . . are there any MAGA supporting women commenting on this site?
Guilty sometimes, generally only to those that seem willfully obtuse....
They know, CB. They're exploiting the "plausible deniability" aspect.
It's like the pesky little brother on a road trip sticking his hand half an inch from his sibling's nose saying "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!"
Literally, yeah, they're not saying anything wrong. But everybody knows what they're getting at, and it's not pretty.
‘Racist dog whistles. Sexist dog whistles’
Why is it many on the left claim these things but seem to be the only ones that hear them….?
Certain collectives of people are epistemologically (ignorant) 'deaf'?
Wait, you feel that her sex played a role in this? Is that what you are saying? Because, as far as I can see, there was no need to say "another incompetent female", as if being female made her incompetent.
What is the "this" we're talking about? Are we talking about the murder or her response?
I'm talking about the reporting of this event.
Dog whistles in general. Seems like only those on the left hear what they claim the right is sending
OK... well.... let's be honest... "reporting" is probably not the term we'd normally use for something like whatever this is. I hesitate to call it an "article". It's not an essay. I dunno what to call it.
When the headline starts with "unspeakable evil" and blames it on one political party, anything that follows is for entertainment purposes only.
Anyway, I think there is undoubtedly at least a small connection between her gender and how she's handled this event.
She is deservedly catching a great deal of criticism for her comments that focus on Mr Brown as the victim, playing into the longstanding stereotype of liberal women attempting to rationalize and minimize the crimes of minority men. Stereotypes should certainly not be applied in all cases, but neither do they emerge in a vacuum.
You would almost never hear a man attempt to explain away a horrific male on female crime by saying something like "the system failed him".
Whether or not that mindset has contributed to decisions that have made Charlotte a less safe place overall is difficult to say, but it certainly doesn't seem unlikely.
Well, bugsy, you see, that's the definition of a dog whistle. It's how some folks say bigoted things without really saying them outright, so they have plausible deniability. They don't have the balls to actually say those bigoted things, so they dance around it.
I honestly don't think you can assign that to a sex. Maybe a state of mind, just like dog whistles.
Well, Sandy, can you show some instances in this article, or posts by members here, that prove your point?
I can show one from a member here..., to wit...
"I noticed how the article focused on how she was "etherally lovely", and, of course, blonde. I wonder why that matters so much? Actually, I'm pretty sure we all know why."
Did you hear the tweet tweet?
Too busy whistling Dixie
cups guzzled, cause the knot muzzled, through obvious ambiguity, shore can leave much, to wash up on and about such, a beach, cause explanations often leave far too many, with out the reach, unless herd buy the herd, a silent dawg whistling, as he barks past the trees, ewe know, wear they get their Q’s
and Pee’s…..
The article is full of them bugsy. As intended.
Do you mind pointing them out, as it seems you are the only one to hear them?
Sealioning is trolling, bugsy.
Asking for proof of something is not trolling, but go ahead and do what you think you need to do.
This person has asked for 'proof' hundreds of times on this forum, if not thousands. And almost all of that after he has already been shown the proof. I dont know why its even tolerated. People should be able to give their opinion on stuff without having to go through this garbage.
a.k.a. Brandolini's Law.
You want a list. Here it is:
Not necessery to the reporting
Again, who reports like this? A rando someone describes him as 'looking emotional,' was a monster. This is not prose writing 101.
Another example of writing prose and not reporting, but their emotions into the reporting.
And again.
A political spin
Yes. Just Google and you can see every outlet reported it, including the BCC.
Again, not reporting. Lots of fear-mongering.
Sorry to but in, but who, in the media, doesn't write like that anymore? You see that and more in the very articles with underlying tones of "Never Trump" not only here (ad nauseum) but every other outlet classified as "mainstream". Look at anything from Mother Jones, Vox, NYT, WaPo, and a plethora of others. There doesn't seem to be much "journalism" involved..........including FOX News.
The author of this seed is not a reporter. It is a run of the mill right wing pro MAGA advocate on a right wing site
It's an opinion piece on a blog. Apparently held to higher standards than the New Yorker or CNN, though. .
probably not
You'd think. The replies to this article indicate otherwise.
Sorry, Perrie, but you apparently don't pay attention to, or give the same criticism, to left wing writing. It is far worse than what you attempted and failed to show here.
All we hear from left wing media is fear mongering, emotional fact less opinion pieces where their readers take in like the God forsaken truth. It is exactly what you described above, but for some reason, we have never seen you opine the same way on these types of articles.
Such bullshit.
I am not the subject of the article, but you seem to want to make me the subject.
I ask for proof when bullshit claims in which your articles/posts, or any other person's post/articles are posted. If you don't like it, then may I suggest you not post bullshit, or possibly show proof of claims you try and make as fact.
I agree about left fear mongering, but this was presented as news, and it is propaganda. Believe what you will. The question was about dog whistles, and there were plenty.
Not 100%, obviously.
But again, stereotypes don't just land from outer space.
Id ask you to stop trolling but that seems to be a hopeless cause.
Most stereotypes stem from a human brain's tendency to build confirmation bias through correlations. It's as bad as saying that men think with their privates. I think we can do better than that.
I thought Sean posted this "article"? I think somebody forgot that
It's an op-ed from a blog. I look forward to you taking a similar approach to opinion pieces submitted from left wingers on this site.
The question was about dog whistles, and there were plenty.
Again, much more subdued than actual "news" reporting from sources like CNN covering a similar story, but sure.
It's always interesting to see who actually hears dog whistles. People who believe a mug shot of a black man gives the message that all black men are criminals seem to be the one with racialist obsessions.
My X made me think with hers ... the 'clarity' of my "cloud of unknowing" was blinding.
You apparently have not read 'The Dancers at the End of Time' by Michael Moorcock in which an 'alien' arrives on Earth to warn of the imminent end of the Universe and the locals put it in a zoo cage.
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In reverse, 'dog whistles' - political version , is that set of 'sounds' you surely hear when MAGA supporters hold up GOPers like this Senator but do not respond to:
Here is CNN's reporting:
You will not find any apologies for this man's horrific acts. You may want to review what the reporting looks like.
In my long list of grievances about this article, did you read anywhere where I addressed the mug shots? The answer to that is no. So please do not include me with "racialist obsessions".
Commenting on the meaning of 14 pictures of the same black man is not a "racialist obsession".
I didn't say CNN apologized for his acts. The issue with CNN reporting this story is that they ignored it for weeks, as opposed to how they immediately covered the murder of Nia Wilson, referenced above.
Compare their coverage of the Wilson with this:
Wilson murder: Officials still don’t know why a white man allegedly stabbed a black woman to death in a subway station
Zarutska murder: Video shows fatal stabbing of Ukrainian refugee on Charlotte light rail — stirring debate on crime in major US cities
Notice the difference? Which incident was racialized by CNN?
So please do not include me with "racialist obsessions".
Sorry, other people feel including his mug shots or calling her pretty are racist dog whistles. They run together.
Do you think a non right wing "news" source would have posted 14 photos of the same person? Of course it was a "dog whistle".
That happened in 2018. You really had to go that far back to find something? Or is it that all the other cases were classified as hate crimes? Oh and for the record, I don't think that the Wilson murder should have had that headline.
And I never hear about looks in real journalism. Showing the mug shots isn't racist on its own, but in the context of everything else written, I can see why others might feel differently.
wing "news" source would have posted 14 photos of the same person? Of
Of course they would, if it helped the narrative.
Do you think MSM news sites identify race equally when describing accused? There are studies out there. What do you think they show? Is race mentioned? Is it in the first paragraph, or buried in the bottom?
I didn't find it. DP did.
Or is it that all the other cases were classified as hate crimes?
Is that the reason he couldn't find a more recent similar case?
And I never hear about looks in real journalism.
So the New Yorker isn't real journalism? I know its biased, but I wouldn't got that far.
now you know why that was said
The mayor's full statement on this incident:
Of course! Some people (instigators, contrarians) take exception to the fact that the Mayor did not overly sympathize with the young woman killed immediately. . . I will leave the 'message' received up to the reader.
Charlotte / Mecklenburg County are one of the worst here in NC. This really isn't surprising. What makes it worse are the excuses that we are seeing defending this clown and the fact there was a fkng gofundme set up for him.
Yep. The financial hub and apartment building boom here has drawn a LOT of undesirables to the Tarheel State. All one has to do is look at the license plates so common these days. The majority from the northeast.....many MANY of them out of date.......and a plethora of illegal migrants adds to the killing of traditional southern values. They come not to live and assimilate into the culture. but rather to just bring their bullshit ideals and plant them on new ground.
such as racism, ignorance, and white trash inbreeding ...
I was just gonna ask what are traditional southern values? I see them as going to church every Sunday but still being the biggest butthead at work on Monday
He said "Southern Values". Not Democrat values.
sorry, I interpret "southern" as goober, not as democrat, and since I was actually born in north carolina, my opinion carries as much weight as yours ...
that's just a local fashion show and a place to go for the self righteous to gossip about those that don't show up.
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It has been taken down. Somebody always tries.
The justification for it was just as idiotic as you'd expect:
Just when you thought the they couldn't pull of any more stupid shit, that comes along.
He should have gotten a free sub or something for filling up his card. Or maybe when he gets to 16 he will be backed for mayor
Did you notice the second one in the bottom row has no resemblance to the other 13? No way that face belongs on THIS story, but I am sure it has relevance elsewhere.
at 34 he can run for president.
Nobody deserves to get stabbed like that (an attack from behind is even worse). Stop with the hype. Her backstory aside, this woman did not deserve to die. . . simply because she was not causing any disturbance at all. She did not deserve to be attacked.
Now then, we all have one more 'scenario' in which we may find ourselves in with our backs to others. Just sad. Horribly sad.
This man is the pits.
The person who posted the image of 14 arrests also wrote this on the X post
What 'war' on White people?
This person, ReliVAlentinaa becomes the story when she attempts to EXPLOIT this single incident to heights it can not arrive at on its own.
What this fool did to this woman is totally wrong, but it is not any way waging war.
Agreed. With war you have thousands of these white Ukranian women being killed, many being raped before being tortured and killed. The man responsible? Ah yes, one of the rightwing conservative hero's Vladimir Putin who Trump continues to appease and carry water for. So, according to conservative logic, we should blame all those rapes and murders of white women on rightwing conservatives who continue to support this President and Putin while demanding that Ukraine submit and just hand over half its land and resources even after so many of their people were raped and murdered.
Ukrainians tortured, raped, executed by Russian captors, Human Rights Council hears | UN News
This was a horrible crime, and it is possible that he killed her because she was white (the position MAGAs would like to assume). But the larger issue here is the constant effort among MAGA conservatives to demonize black people because of their crime rate.
Crime is caused by a social dysfunction exacerbated by poverty. If the inner city population was overwhelmingly white then the highest crime rates would be white.
Conservative "theology" is that non white people are flawed. They are putting the cart and the horse on two different roads.
What evidence do you have of that?
Data from New York suggests otherwise.
Asians benefit from black activism across societal issues and policies, and I wonder: Can you find a statistic on that! What is my point? Groups of people have internal problems that they must work through. Pitting them against one another over one set of 'raw' statistics or another (especially when there is no analysis of the stats included) can be misleading and worse downright misinformation.
I think you meant this as a response to John.
Good info - shows a lot of failings in the NC judicial corps.
"Good info"? Great! I share it because it is derived objectively from outside sourcing. "Shows a lot of failings in the NC judicial corps" - how so? Please elaborate. It evidently did not come from the excerpt I posted. Offer us your rationale for "the judicial corps' " failing of Mr. Brown.
Read your posting - relays all the info you need.
Meh. You know, I am getting frustrated trying to 'talk' to individuals who have little to add when asked to clear up confusion. I do not have time for games, 1st Warrior. Moreover, I do not ask people to do my reading for me-that is NOT who I am!
So Trump wants Putin to win. He doesn't care that Ukrainians are killed every day by Russia or wants to stop funding Ukrainian counter war efforts.
Some Ukrainians got asylum BEFORE Trump was elected.
Now the ICE goon squads and this administration are sending back many people who came here legally or sought asylum legally.
They have detained many white tourists from a variety of countries and most of them were here legally or had minor administrative issues with their visas or green cards.
So would there be any right wing uproar if she had been picked up by ICE because her asylum was denied or there was a glitch in her "paperwork"? No, send them back to their war torn country, Trump is doing that every day.
Would there be any right wing uproar if it were a poor woman of color who was stabbed? No.
When there are school shooters or mass shooters and mental illness is an issue, that is totally accepted and the right wing punditry is accepting it full blast saying that no one can stop the mentally ill.
Republicans refuse to fund mental illness programs.
Republicans rubber stamped spending more money on ICE than the budget of a small country, yet Republicans refused to simply take that ICE funding and channel it to fuel more boots on the ground state and local police officers.
good summary of what is going on
Do you have a link to any Democratic proposed programs?..
Same question....
Purely rubber stamp response - no answers - just deflections mostly.
The monster speaks -
“We cannot allow a depraved criminal element of violent repeat offenders to continue spreading destruction and death throughout our country,” Trump said. “We have to respond with force and strength. We have to be vicious , just like they are.
Trump Demands 'Vicious' Law And Order After Charlotte Murder
So, this 'fool' or otherwise mentally ill individual has played himself right into the hands of our vindictive president whom can not miss an opportunity to GRANDSTAND (that he is right above 'all' others) in his judgements of people.
Now, we have the " Duerte " (former president of the Philippines who ordered "death squads" to find and kill people for their crimes) of the United States turning a state issue into a federal policy matter under the guise of him personally being a so-called: "Chief Law Enforcement Officer." May "heaven" help us.
And MAGA conservatives are okay with this. Why? Because it fits their narrative of being tough—patriarchal on crime and zero tolerance. Of course we all wish for less crime and victimization. We also wish for law and order with DECENCY and PROCESS to be upheld too.
And so here we are today about to watch as this foolish/mental case gets his just desserts or simply 'desserts' from a brutal federal government oversight where it is questionable if the "Chief" is more interested in justice or just destroying people — personally .
Trump is grabbing at anything to distract his fan club from Epstein and Maxwell ... the denials have become deafening.
Watch your pussy....
Lets see. The survivors stated on national TV that he wasn't involved at the level the idiots wish he was. And a democrat judge is the one that stopped the release of the documents. So exactly what is he deflecting from?
Trump told Epstein on his birthday that they shared secrets. Trump can tell everyone what the secrets were and put everyone's mind at ease.
This is probably the first time they have heard this.
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That from the "Secret Squirrel Network"? It sounds as fictional as the Russia Collusion hoax.