Trump to link autism to Tylenol use during pregnancy
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Via: hallux • last year • 160 commentsBy: Adriel Bettelheim - Axios
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
President Trump and his top health officials are expected to draw a link between autism and the use of Tylenol during pregnancy at a White House event on Monday afternoon.
Why it matters: The mention of a connection, first reported by the Wall Street Journal earlier this month, would revive a medical controversy over the use of Tylenol's active ingredient acetaminophen early in a pregnancy.
- Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. , who has promoted debunked theories about the disorder, said conclusions from a government report on the causes of autism would be revealed this month.
- Over the weekend, Trump touted an announcement for Monday.
Driving the news: Trump is due to appear with Kennedy, CMS administrator Mehmet Oz and others Monday afternoon.
- The officials are also expected to suggest a connection between autism and low levels of the vitamin folate. The WSJ report said the administration would identify a form of folate known as leucovorin as a way to decrease the symptoms of autism.
What they're saying: "President Trump pledged to address America's rising rate of autism, and to do so with Gold Standard science. Tomorrow's announcement will make historic progress on both commitments," said White House spokesman Kush Desai.
Between the lines: Some studies have found that prenatal exposure to the pain medication increased the risk of both autism spectrum disorder and ADHD.
But a large srder and ADHD.tudy of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden concluded last year there was no connection.
- Earlier, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists concluded there's no clear evidence of a relationship between prudent use of acetaminophen and fetal developmental issues.
Kenvue, the maker of Tylenol, said in a statement: "We believe independent, sound science clearly shows that taking acetaminophen does not cause autism. We strongly disagree with any suggestion otherwise and are deeply concerned with the health risk this poses for expecting mothers."
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Next up the evils of soymilk. Pray the soy away!
Gold Standard science? Is that anything like the gold that's standard all over the White House?
People are saying that drinking Diet Coke may be linked to slow, ongoing, deterioration of the person's mental faculties.
In Trump's case this is likely true.
This I believe. It wasn't until 3-4 years after I had my last one they started encouraging expectant mothers to take folic acid. They even encouraged it to women who were trying to conceive
This I believe. It wasn't until 3-4 years after I had my last one they started encouraging expectant mothers to take folic acid. They even encouraged it to women who were trying to conceive,
The need for Folate in pregnancy been established as a science fact.
And I'm not sure if I remember this correctly, but the form called "Folate" is slightly better than "Folic Acid" (?)
So I googled it:
So glad that I am a guy.
Fluoridating the drinking water will be the next to go.
Kennedy will mandate Floridating the drinking water. /s
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The new face of America's Floridated Water!
In localities that do that (a few already have eliminated it) yes--there will soon be seen a significant increase in cavities.
Don’t mind me. I’ll just be over here holding my knees, rocking back and forth, and chanting “correlation is not causation…correlation is not causation…correlation is not causation…”
Wanna be my partner on Dancing With Olde Farts?
I'll bring the Tylenol arthritis for you 2
Just don't confuse it with the Tylenol PM. Would hate to see two oldsters start snoring in the middle of their Cha Cha...
But wouldn't that be fun to see?
Mama said never dance with ladies who had more knee operations than you had. Always wondered what that meant
Looks like someone has taken a statistics course.
There really isn't even any correlation there either.
Anyone trying to tell you that Tylenol causes autism has a brain partially eaten by worms.
Admitting parasitic worms have eaten your brain? Big plus when looking for a job in the Trump administration that only values loyalty to their dear Leader.
Pretty sure that everybody Trump picks is brain dead. Trump drained the swamp and made them his cabinet.
Is Trump too stupid to realize how ignorant he is about these matters and how dangerous it is for him to suggest medical practices? Or is it that his ego is so vast that he simply does not care if harm may result from his words? Both?
Trump's announcement about this today was surreal, a combination of bumbling and ignorance.
He quickly gave up on trying to pronounce acetaminophen. It was comical.
Every week, it seems, Trump is illustrating how unfit he is for office. And every week it is met with 'so what?' by his supporters.
What is it about Trump that causes his supporters to give him a pass constantly? On the world stage, the buffoon claims to have ended six or seven wars and cannot even correctly pronounce the names of the nations with whom he claims to have negotiated peace.
Beyond being an embarrassment, Trump is dangerous to this nation, and apparently, his supporters cannot see it or do not care.
Rule of law ... not important. Freedom of speech ... not important. Consumer price index ... not important. Ethical, responsible administration ... not important. Strong economy ... not important. As long as immigrants are deported and 'the left' is attacked, Trump is doing just fine in their view.
He said it the other day at Kirk's memorial. He hates the people who don't support him (paraphrasing here). That's really all it is. He hates the same people they do
Not comical....sad.
For those that haven't seen it yet.
Yes. His picture is next to Dunning-Kruger effect in the dictionary.
He's still convinced he's a stable genius with all the best words, even though he can't pronounce "acetaminophen".
Trump was never stable nor even close to being smart. His folks shipped him off to military school for a reason. (he was raping every little girl he met). Donny learned early on that he could stick his tiny dick into whoever he wanted to. For a whole bunch of reasons, Donald Trump should spend the rest of his life in prison.
Don't forget there are plenty of people stupid enough to believe his BS and go along with it.
To channel McCain, I am reminded of that daily.
But an important question has been raised.
"There has been a nearly 300% increase over the past 20 years, but if you look at any two-year period across the sites that are monitoring the number of children identified with autism, it’s somewhere between a 10%–20% increase every two years."
Is There an Autism Epidemic? | Johns Hopkins | Bloomberg School of Public Health
The question is what is causing the tremendous increase?
On the lighter side, I did end the day with a laugh when I heard the that the makers of Tylenol were furious!
How about better diagnosis than what there was decades ago?
So autism was common rather than rare and the experts missed it
I find that unlikely.
So you really don't think that we have better diagnostic techniques than we had in the 40's? I find that suspicious
There was something wrong with some, back then they didn't know what it was or what to call it.
Diagnostic techniques are better but that is a far cry from saying that the massive increase in autism was due to a misdiagnosis.
We need to find out the answer
There is controversial evidence on Tylenol being taken by pregnant women
Why not wait for conclusive results?
We also have an epidemic of obesity which clearly did not exist when I was a kid. On that one RFK may have nailed it on what is our food now.
Thank-you, Charger! Autism has always been with us. They just didn't know what was wrong with them back then so they were called idiots and locked up
I'm not even going to entertain the thought that trmp may be right. He along with RFK are speaking out of their asses.
No, obesity didn't exist much when I was a kid, either, but we didn't have the proliferation of electronic devices everywhere and snack foods weren't substitutes for lunch, either
They already exist. The study below, published just last year, is based on a sample of almost 2 1/2 million children, over a 25 year period. It found no link between Tylenol use and Autism, ADHD, or any other mental health issue.
I know this is a difficult thing for people to comprehend sometimes, but even the most well-intentioned study can be flawed. There are often confounding factors that are not considered.
Also, correlation does not equal causation. I can't say that emphatically enough, so I will repeat it louder:
CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION!
So, for example, the few studies that found even a minor correlation between Tylenol use and Autism failed to consider the possibility of causation, not by the Tylenol, but by the condition for which a pregnant woman might take Tylenol. Like, it wasn't the Tylenol that caused the problem, but whatever gave her the fever or the headache. Or it could be a genetic factor producing a condition that might lead to taking Tylenol.
Again, it's not the Tylenol. And we already know that. Conclusively .
Acetaminophen Use During Pregnancy and Children’s Risk of Autism, ADHD, and Intellectual Disability
Say it louder...they didn't hear you in the back of the room
What experts? Think about it. Pick some time period. 60 years ago. 80 years ago. Whatever.
How many “experts” were working on matters of mental health, and specifically Autism? Any? A handful?
What support system did they have? How much funding? What equipment and testing protocols were at their disposal? Did they have corporate support?
Socially, how many genuine mental health issues were dismissed as schizophrenia, or retardation? Or maybe Johnny is just “slow” or “different.”
Now compare all those factors to today, and you should see we are talking about apples and oranges when it comes to scientific expertise.
But is it more unlikely then when "everyone knew* " that there was no way to prevent outbreaks of Polio?
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* "Everyone knew" that there was no way to prevent outbreaks of Polio? (Yes, That included the "experts")
So, 1 out of 12 boys actually had autism and it wasn't diagnosed and nobody noticed?
I think that is your real argument.
In other words, the reason could be anything except what Trump says it is.
We got it!
So, there were a few studies that found even a minor correlation between Tylenol use and Autism.
Yes, that is where Trump got it from.
Do you not see how irresponsible and dangerous it is for a PotUS to give half-baked (and in this case, dead wrong) medical advice?
Therefore what?
... and horrible advice has been given by Trump.
Do you approve of Trump flapping his jaw with the influence of the presidency on matters he is woefully unqualified?
So you don't debate the importance of the question? That's good to hear.
As for Trump jumping the gun with a bit of evidence it is premature. Be careful, he can eventually be proven right on this one.
You haven't debated anything either. Debate requires support to back your point neither you, Trump, nor Kennedy have the data to support the assutation. If/when you have it come back and then we can debate.
That's not how science works. You don't say random shit that you pulled out of your ass, and then manipulate things so you are "proven right."
Why would I object to the pursuit of scientific discoveries?? I object to an idiot with the bully pulpit giving profoundly ignorant advice. Apparently, you are okay with whatever Trump says.
Good grief ... defense of Trump no matter how utterly stupid (and dangerous) his words.
Well you know the olde saying:
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day!
But that wasn't my point. Cleary, I have not agreed with that Tylenol is the cause. I am only saying that the question is a valid one. Going from 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 12 requires an effort to find out why.
No Tacos, one can take a stand based on a tiny bit of evidence and one day more evidence may prove or disprove your theory.
It is how science works.
Go back and read what I said.
I said two things:
1) The question needed to be asked
2) Trump jumped the gun
Good grief ... defense of Trump no matter how utterly stupid (and dangerous) his words.
Good grief ... You people believe that anything he says must be wrong.
He was the one who got a covid vaccine within 10 months when Dr Fauci said it was impossible. Try to remember that.
It was what you said.
And if you follow the science (to know why) you would understand Kennedy and Trump are pissing in the wind and calling it rain. There are more than enough studies with many millions of subjects to make valid conclusions and they aren't what Trump just dropped.
I never backed the Tylenol theory. Show me where.
And if you follow the science (to know why) you would understand Kennedy and Trump are pissing in the wind and calling it rain.
Following science requires patience. The question on why there is so much autism has yet to be resolved.
I was talking about debate. First you accuse someone of not wanting to debate and then when I point out how debates are done, you waffle and deflect. My point has nothing to do with anything else.
True, science is always updating itself with new data.
The possible cause of Tylenol use by pregnant women has been fully documented and tested. Now we move on to other possible causes instead of beating a dead horse. That's also how science works.
Dr Fauci estimated that a vaccine would take 12-18 months. That was an estimate based on science. The vaccine development took 11 months.
You spin this (of course) to translate Dr. Fauci's estimate into him saying it was impossible and give all credit to Trump (as if that idiot had a clue).
I will remember facts and truth, not partisan bullshit.
Bottom line, you pull out this imagined tidbit in an attempt to suggest that Trump might have a point. That is, yet again, defending the indefensible. Trump is wrong to give medical advice. Don't agree with that in one post and then argue that Trump might be correct in another.
No, Vic. That’s not how science works. No actual scientist is “taking a stand on a tiny bit of evidence.”
No study shows a causal relationship between taking Tylenol and autism. Taking a stand on correlation is stupid, not scientific.
Ok, there is no theory of mine. There is just the science. The science shows that there is no causal relationship between taking Tylenol and autism. The science shows that the correlation is coincidental. Kind of like you can correlate women being bipedal or drinking water with autism.
You can find a correlation with lots of things, but that doesn’t it make it the cause. Christmas and weight gain are correlated, but that doesn’t mean that decorating or believing in Jesus causes weight gain. Feasting causes weight gain.
There is certainly more to learn about autism. No question. But we do know some things through the science. One of the things we know is that it’s not caused by Tylenol.
It absolutely isn't.
Science is more conservative than that. Science demands repeated, strong evidence before scientists will "take a stand".
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Indeed, where did trump get his MD from?
Awareness.....
We changed the definition. The problem is that we didn't really tell everybody that, so it's easy to think that the kids are all different.
It's like when we changed the definition of concussion. But we told everyone about that. So now when you hear someone has a concussion, you understand that's a different word than we used in 1980.
It’s more than that, though. Our understanding both of autism and the human brain generally has greatly improved and expanded. We see now that autism isn’t just an either/or condition. It’s a spectrum covering a broad range of brain functions and human behaviors.
Unfortunately, people like Vic, Trump, RFK, etc., react to this improved understanding like there is some kind of woke conspiracy afoot. Like we just “changed the definition” so we could inflict liberalism on “real Americans.”
Yeah. We changed the definition.
Just like with concussions.
Look, "changed the definition" is a phrase used in statistical analysis. I'm not responsible for who interprets what in what way.
TBF, if there wasn't fairly extensive precedent for doing exactly that, you wouldn't have to worry about people being wary of it.
I find it hilarious that there are some ignoring the Johns Hopkins and Harvard findings ONLY because Trump said something. Weren't these the "follow the science" people during the pandemic?
Increases can be attributed to an increasing or larger population numbers and better diagnostic methods than in years past.
Have you ever seen a child with autism?
Yes. Your point?
In the old days it was still something very visible. The idea that because it wasn't diagnosed that people wouldn't have known is ridiculous.
We have to find the answer as to why it has increased so dramatically.
This isn't the old days anymore. Diagnostic tools and expertise has advanced and the population is larger.
Oh? Please tell us how you knew somebody was autistic.
Please also tell us how you think this quest is furthered by fixating on discredited "causes", like vaccines (Trump has jumped on that bandwagon), or those with tenuous links, like acetaminophen.
I really think some folks still believe that all people with autism are like Raymond on "Rain Man" - institutionalized for the most part, demanding to watch The People's Court, counting matches in a second, and unable to show emotion.
Their idea of "autistic" is very narrow.
When parents try to sue Kenvue (the makers of Tylenol) and lose in court, will Kenvie sue the Trump Admin for damages?
About damn time far-right wing fascists go broke. FOAD assholes!
I was expecting something other than a nothing burger, like a ban or at least the FDA saying something that was not true.
According to google AI:
In September 2025, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an advisory on acetaminophen use during pregnancy, mentioning that an association with autism has been reported in some studies (below) but that a causal relationship has not been proven. The agency recommended that doctors consider limiting its use but also emphasized that it is the safest over-the-counter option for treating fever and pain in pregnant women.
Yeah, a causal relationship has not been proven. In fact, a causal relationship has been discredited by decades of studies.
So if you accept what Google AI produced, you should recognize how irresponsible Trump's words are. Do you??
I am talking about the actual statement the fda released. Did they say something untrue? Is there an issue saying it? Is there a problem telling people observational studies exist that do not show a causal relationship?
And I am talking about the topic of Trump's statements.
There is no scientific causation established for autism from acetaminophen.
Do you recognize how irresponsible Trump's words are?
Which is exactly what the FDA said.
Read the comment you responded to again. It does not mention Trump. Feel free to comment on either one of my posts, I am not going on the Trump express.
Trump couldnt even pronounce the word.
Everyone Is Absolutely Losing It Over Trump Butchering The Word "Acetaminophen" Like He's Never Seen It Before, Despite Holding A Major Press Conference About It
Wow, the things people choose to "lose it" over.
A man has highly educated as he, who has the best words should be able to pronounce acetaminophen don't ya think
Of course, I don't think he's highly educated. I think he stumbles barely above the minimum IQ line
Pay attention. This seed is about what Trump said. My comment is about what Trump said. And I asked you if you recognize how irresponsible is Trump's rhetoric.
You dodge and deflect rather than make the obvious acknowledgement that Trump, per the topic of this seed, was yet again irresponsibly flapping his jaws on a topic of which he is woefully unqualified.
This is your defense of this idiocy? “Just sayin?”
To serve the public, the government needs to release information that is actually relevant to public health. By attaching significance to poorly done - and debunked - studies, the government is misleading the public into thinking there is something about Tylenol or vaccines that they genuinely need to worry about.
So, we now have the President of the United States saying, “Don’t take Tylenol.” He’s also saying don’t give it to your baby. That’s straight up wrong medical advice. That’s insane, and there is no valid defense of it.
This is Trump’s FDA. It’s Trump’s CDC and NIH. The whole Department of HHS is his. Many career scientists - actual doctors who are experts on the subject matter - have been fired. And now these agencies are putting out garbage.
Trump personally held a press conference on this yesterday and also personally handed out insane medical advice. Actual medical advice on a drug he can’t even pronounce.
There is no separating Trump from this. He is the Grand Marshall of this Shit Parade. The Ringmaster of the Shit Circus. You don’t get to play Sergeant Schultz and pretend you can’t see Trump in this.
Probably should. Is it worth losing it over?
See 10.1.3 again
Read 10 again
See 10 and 10.1.3
More deflection.
I agree. You responded to a comment that didn't mention trump and tried to deflect it to trump.
See 10 and 10.1.1. Care to reply without the usual deflection to trump or will you just continue ignoring them and deflect to trump
I doubt anyone is fooled by bullshit like that. You are deflecting left and right and it is blatantly obvious.
I asked if you recognize how irresponsible Trump's rhetoric is, and you cannot even answer that simple question.
See 10.1.16
I already have, and I made it plain that I think your excuse is bullshit. Your unwillingness to face the truth is not my failing.
Excuse? That's funny. Care to respond to 10 instead of trying to deflect to trump?
Already did. Twice.
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Indeed it is. Perhaps it is time to toss my druthers and start flagging.
Absolutely no one cares about Trump not being able to pronounce it. I am very sure that if i walked up to 10 random people and asked them to pronounce it, maybe one or two could.
You dont think someone should be able to pronounce the exact specific word they are talking about ? ROFL
The buffoon was using the power and influence of the presidency to advise women to not take Tylenol.
The point is that he obviously has no idea what he is talking about since decades of clinical studies show that the claim that acetaminophen causes autism in unfounded. Further, he has not even familiarized himself with this issue since he could not pronounce acetaminophen — as if he was reading the name for the first time. The irresponsible blowhard was winging it as usual.
If you cannot even pronounce the name of the drug you are advising against, then maybe that is a red flag that you have no clue what you are talking about.
And Trump supporters should be able to figure that out too.
You had no problem with Biden stumbling over 1 or 2 syllable words almost daily for 4 years. ROFL even harder.
Trump is the dumbest person I can recall who made it to president of the United States.
In this case the point is not that Trump could not pronounce acetaminophen but rather that this indicated he had done no preparation whatsoever to familiarize himself with the issue before using the influence of the presidency to state, explicitly, that women should not use Tylenol.
It was typical irresponsible behavior from this buffoon. A responsible PotUS would not make medical recommendations in the first place. But if one is going to do so, one should at least spend enough time to familiarize oneself with the issue and be very convinced that what is to be announced to the world is reliable and responsible.
By not even knowing how to pronounce acetaminophen, Trump illustrated that he had done no prep. That he had not even heard the word pronounced by advisors preparing the PotUS before making such an announcement. And if he actually spent the time to be advised (which is doubtful), his advisors would surely have spoken that word to him more than once. So even if advised, the irresponsible clown was not paying attention.
That is the point.
Have you ever heard of a President named Joe Biden?
So you can't counter my post 10.1.27 so you go right back to "but Truuuuuuuuuuuump"
It really has become boring.
Correct!
Yes, the thing is I don't see the FDA suggesting it did. As a matter of fact from what I can see they specifically said a causal relationship has not been proven.
Therefore Trump was yet again being irresponsible, making claims and giving recommendations in an area where he is woefully unqualified.
Do you recognize that?
See10.1.3
Interesting how ignorant fascists keep insinuating with no scientific evidence.
The fact that most far-right wingers never graduated high school means something. [deleted][✘]
‘Interesting how ignorant fascists’
Interesting how some left wingers still don’t know the definition of the word.
I'm sure there are some who don't know what fascist means, but most use it just like those on the right use "socialist". For many ignorant bigots on the right, I'm a socialist for supporting social security, welfare and food stamps for those living in poverty. I don't see a problem calling rightwing white nationalists "fascists" even if they don't meet EVERY aspect of the definition much like those the right claim are "socialists" don't meet even a fraction of that definition.
To be fair, CJ would have been more accurate to say " Interesting how ignorant fascist-wannabe's keep insinuating with no scientific evidence". They want to be fascists just like Trump wishes he could be a dictatorial leader, and they're doing their best to force as much fascism on America as they can without becoming full-fledged goose-stepping fascists.
What I find most interesting is how rightwing and far right Trump supporters don't just admit that they're at best wannabe fascists and at worst full-fledged fascists because that is EXACTLY what they clearly support in this country. It's beyond obvious they greatly desire Trump to rule the land and make all laws and social structures favoring rightwing Christian ultranationalists banning any and all things they consider "leftist" or socially conscious aka "woke". Fascists ARE the very definition of "anti-woke".
That's not just morons on the right. According to some morons on the left, opposing socialism is opposing public schools, libraries, and roads.
You're pretending the left wing in this country doesn't demand the suppression of free speech, openly hate those with opposing views, doesn't regularly engage in political violence, and doesn't clamor for "severe economic and social regimentation".
Glass houses, stones, etc.
Underpinning this insanity is the unjustifiable assumption that over the generations, millions of doctors, even more millions of nurses, God only knows how many researchers, and the medical industry as a whole - not just in the US, but around the world - have known the untold “real” causes of autism, and the “real” dangers of vaccines.
Even more incredibly, these millions of medical and scientific professionals have been conspiring in secret to hide these critical truths from billions of patients because for some fucking reason, they must want us all to be autistic.
Or…all of the above-mentioned medical and scientific professionals - in spite of generations of education, training, and experience - are so incompetent that they all just missed the real solution.
But MFing RFK Jr. figured it out for you, just because God gave him the special hillbilly internet wisdom to see through the bullshit. MAGA will believe that.
Well either that-- or else its simply that a worm has eaten part of his brain!
When confronted by Satan, what you must do is drive a silver stake through their heart!
(No wait-- I've got my superstitions wrong. Silver stakes work for Vampires-- not Satan. For Satan you need to use much more powerful measures!!! Let me check AI and I'll get back to you!)
"Hey, don't lump me in with that three-timing slut Donald!" - Satan
Maybe our real question should be, why is this administration trying to get everyone in a panic over autism? If they were actually worried about autism, they wouldn’t have slashed millions of dollars in government funding on research for autism and on programs to help autistic people and their families.
So is this another distraction? Is this another attempt to otherize some group of people so they can be marginalized and scapegoated? Are they a tool to keep you in fear of liberal government? Like maybe it’s not simply a Tylenol issue. Like are we generating a conspiracy theory that liberal doctors and government have been pushing this evil drug on you to make your children autistic?
People really need to learn to do some research. Johns Hopkins did. In 2019. The result:
Then Harvard had similar results that were published in August
Then there is Mount Sinai:
Trump DIDN'T make the connection. MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS DID . Trump just stated it, and many flew off the handle in a TDS driven rage...again.
Yes, and those same medical professionals said not to make too much out of it. For example, from the Johns Hopkins study,
How can that be?, you might ask. A big problem is that you don’t know why these women were taking Tylenol. It turns out that conditions like autism and ADHD are highly hereditary, and pregnant women with these conditions tend to take more Tylenol. Additionally, pregnant women who smoke or drink more than is typical tend to also take more Tylenol. Pregnant women struggling with all sorts of health issues that can impact their fetus, also take Tylenol to relieve symptoms of those conditions. It is far more likely that those underlying conditions will impact the fetus, not the Tylenol.
Tylenol is what you take when you’re concerned about side effects from taking something else.
These are known as “confounding factors” and they can reduce the correlation found to total irrelevancy.
So, in sibling studies (so same mom, same environment), these connections to Tylenol disappear.
He also just stated, “don’t take Tylenol.” That came from straight out of his ass, not from science.
So much for follow the science.
Scientists are aware of the existence of confounding variables. Aren't you?
I’m trying to help you do exactly that, but you only want to take a superficial glance at a headline. And you’ll just stick with that if it remotely seems to support your political conspiracy theory that liberal doctors and government have been hiding the “true cause of autism” from you.
Jeremy, Kennedy, and Trump have fallen victim to one of the classic blunders.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
An introductory science course would help one avoid this fallacy.
Looking at the science and not setting our hair on fire because WHO mentioned the science?
Remember when Biden said we shouldn't be flying on commercial airplanes or riding the subway during the swine flu pandemic?
Was he criticized because he was wrong, or because he was a Democrat?
We're criticizing Trump because he's wrong. So is Kennedy, who is from the family who for decades was synonymous with progressivism.
We criticize them as wrong because we understand how science works. Your links do not indicate similar knowledge.
I also remember Biden saying ";akjpoaiupoijaiodnfoipen". And you all claimed he knew what he was doing.
You're criticizing him because he's Trump. Nothing more, nothing less. You've all been doing it since 2015.
Quite a few times...In public settings. Imagine what was happening in private
We all knew Biden had a speech impediment from early childhood, and we all admitted he was prone to gaffes.
We all also knew he's not stupid enough to alienate allies with punitive tariffs, wouldn't lose his shit over a stopped escalator, and wouldn't be do stupid as to believe we'd discover the cause of autism by a certain time, then manipulate information to suit that goal.
Because that's not how science works.
It's how cults work.
We all knew Biden had a speech impediment from early childhood
That he overcame when he was a teenager.
It's how cults work.
blaming a childhood stutter for incoherence in an 80 year old man to avoid the obvious evidence of mental deterioration is exactly how a cult works.
‘We all also knew he's not stupid enough to alienate allies with punitive tariffs’
You’re right. He just let them run over us with trade deficits and you were ok with that.
‘wouldn't lose his shit over a stopped escalator’
Define ‘lose his shit’ and apply that to what Trump did.
‘and wouldn't be do stupid as to believe we'd discover the cause of autism by a certain time, then manipulate information to suit that goal’
Can you show proof of this?
Yeah, what the world witnessed wasn't a speech impediment. It was a mental capability impediment. Quit making excuses.
The stupid part is questionable. And it's not "punitive tariffs" that were implemented. They're called reciprocal tariffs. Know the difference.
Nope.
Yes, how dare Colombia send us more coffee than they buy from us?
In this circumstance, doing anything other than just walking (if his cankles can carry him), or getting on the escalator right next to him, if he can't walk. Certainly demanding an investigation into something so silly is an over-the-top reaction.
Why? Isn't speculation enough when it's not coming from Trump and company?
Sounds like you don't know what tariffs are
"Certainly demanding an investigation into something so silly is an over-the-top reaction."
Sounds like you don't know what "losing your shit" means
"Isn't speculation enough when it's not coming from Trump and company?"
So nothing, but that was already known
Sounds like you don't know what a trade deficit is.
It also sounds like your bar for "losing your shit" likely is fairly high for Trump. I wonder if it is equally high for anybody not Trump, or his supporter. Do you seriously think a malfunctioning escalator needs an investigation? How easily some people are triggered.
Trump never had a stutter. What's his excuse?
"it [The Continental Army] took over the airports..."
Taxes.....that was easy.
I put more credence to Canadian Medical Science.
LINK -> (1) Keep taking Tylenol during pregnancy, Health Canada says amid Trump claims - National | Globalnews.ca
Autism is strongly correlated with advanced paternal age, but I seem to have missed hearing Trump tell old men not to impregnate soft porn models working in the US illegally.
That is the focus of all my daughter's PhD work, and it is highly tied to the older parental age of both parents.
It's multifactorial.
But Trump and Kennedy want a silver bullet, and vaccines have been absolved (not that that has made a dent in Kennedy's worm-eaten skull), so they've pinned it on the "cause" that puts responsibility on pregnant women and not on horny old men.
We asked AOC's mom if she took Tylenol when pregnant, she said only when the hangover was really bad.
Meanwhile, we asked Trumps mom if she was drunk and on drugs when pregnant with Donald, and through the slurred speech she said she tried to abort the vile demon in her womb that her white supremacist abusive husband Fred had forced upon her many times but sadly was unsuccessful and apologizes for not being able to rid the world of such evil when she had the chance. "I even tried to throttle the grinning little fuck, but Fred slapped me into unconsciousness before I had the chance".
Boy, it's fun making up shit and putting it in the mouth of anyone you hate, thanks George!
So you have nothing to add to the discussion?