Trump middle east peace deal at hand
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The first phase of a peace deal between Israel and Hamas has been agreed to. Both sides are expected to sign the agreement at noon tomorrow.
During a press event at the White House Secretary of State Marco Rubio walked over to the President and whispered in the ear of the President after handing him a note about a Middle East deal saying “Very close."
"We'll be leaving, probably on Sunday, maybe Saturday, maybe a little, a little later than Saturday evening, but that seems to be our schedule."
Trump has been represented in the talks by his special Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff and son-in-law Jared Kushner following Hamas's tentative acceptance on Friday of the president's 20-point plan for peace.
"We have a great team over there, great negotiators," the president added, "and they're, unfortunately, great negotiators on the other side, also."
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This is a developing story.
We will know much more by noon tomorrow.
Rubio as an individual is smart and level-headed. He has been hobbled by his forced loyalty to Trump (he sold his integrity for opportunity) but I think Rubio has the chops to be a good SoS.
Looks like Trump has delegated this. That is a good move.
Very hopeful news. We will see how it all works out.
That seems the most appropriate view to take.
Very true. Still a lot of issues that have not been agreed to. Will this be a lasting peace or just another temporary stop? Some very difficult pieces remain including the disarmament of Gaza and the removal of Hamas from governing Gaza. Still a lot to be done but this is a very good first step.
I sincerely hope the peace deal goes through and the bloodshed stops, but historically Hamas has broken every single ceasefire they have ever agreed to with Israel and blaming Israel. I will be very surprised to not see them do it all over again once they have had a breathing space to regroup and rearm because that is what they have always done in the past. They are probably stashing caches of arms and munitions already.
If this goes through it will cement Trump's legacy in ways not foreseen that his opponents will not be able to stomach.
Because we all know, no matter what, that Trump will take credit for it.
Did you see me say otherwise? But either way, of course he will take credit for it and rightly so.
Well I guess we disagree.
10 of the most questionable things Trump’s claimed credit for
Fact-checking what Trump has taken credit for
How to deflect when you don't have an honest reply.
I showed mine, now it's up to you to show another president doing it. Or run away...
Biden claiming tremendous job growth when in reality it was the rehiring of those laid off by business closures during the Covid shutdown.
Biden claiming inflation is transitory.
Obama stating 'If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep it. Period.' when talking about the Affordable Care Act. Politico later called that the lie of the year.
Nixon made several statements that he knew nothing about the Watergate break in and nobody in the White House was involved. We know how that turned out.
In the 1940 election campaign, FDR promised voters, "Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars". At the time, he was already laying the groundwork for confronting Nazi Germany, a fact that contradicted his public statement. When Churchill returned to the British Government in 1939 the two of them started their extensive personal correspondence. In 1940 FDR knew that the US was going to have to get involved against the Nazi's.
The simple fact is that ALL presidents will take credit for something good that happens during their presidency regardless if they had anything to do with it or not. Just as they will blame the previous administration for any failures that occur, regardless if they had anything to do with it or not. Only the willfully blind can ignore that.
Okay, so he is not accepting credit for anyone else's work, he is stating what he is trying to do. Claim 1---FAIL.
Once again he is not accepting credit for anyone else's work, he is stating what he cares about. Claim 2---FAIL.
Your fact does not dispute this, you just feel he shouldn't claim all the job increases. Claim 3---FAIL.
Once again he is not accepting credit for anyone else's work. Claim 4---FAIL.
Once again he is not accepting credit for anyone else's work. Claim 5---FAIL.
Have you forgotten what we are discussing???
Once again he is not accepting credit for anyone else's work. Claim 6---FAIL.
The Bottom Line:
The bottom line is that you appear to have forgotten what was being discussed. (HINT: It was Trump taking credit for other people's work.)
No need, your post was simply your claim with nothing whatsoever to back it up. Your claim consisted of...
Ok, you just want to ignore history that everybody including you have seen just so you can argue. Have a nice day...
History which you are unable to cite?
The only sure thing is Trump will go over there, praise himself, embarrass the country, and accept gifts.
If this works and he establishes a lasting peace in Gaza he’ll be the most accomplished foreign policy president since the elder bush. But since it’s hamas, peace will only last until the un rearms them.
Tens of thousands of people have died in Gaza since Trump took office. A cease fire is good news for Israel and Gaza, but all Trump did was still be in office when the situation reached the exhaustion point.
No John, he worked his ass off and expended a lot of political capital to get this to the finish line. Do you think that any democrat could do the same? Would Kamala be up to it? We know for certain that old slow Joe wouldn't have been.
Who was exhausted? Seems Israel had no problem with continuing the bombing and Hamas had no problem continuing to hide behind civilians to get what they want.
I wonder if you would take the same stance if Joe or Kamala were in office when it happened. It seems both Israel and civilians in Gaza are praising Trump in getting us to where we are today. No idea if or how long it will last but the region and the world are better off today than they were yesterday.
Of course the biggest issue that some on the left have is this may bring Trump closer to the Nobel peace prize
The Nobel Peace Prize is not awarded by MAGA. It is awarded by the same international citizens that are still too busy laughing at him.
Trump could never generate the type of laughter this did:
So the Nobel prize is nothing more than a popularity contest?
Do you think Trump deserves the Nobel prize?
That is a ridiculous question since I don't know who else is nominated or what they have done to deserve it. I will only say if he is a major player in ending this war and maybe even Helping to finalize and end to Ukrain war he should be in the conversation, especially considering the following:
Amazing. You actually think that Trump should be considered for the Nobel Peace Prize.
I doubt the committee has forgotten what Trump has done and continues to do with his irrational tariff policies and constant trolling and bad-mouthing of world leaders.
Defending Trump no matter what has got to be the most ridiculous pastime on social media today.
I dont know who the other nominees are, but if Trump gets it the Nobel committee will never be forgiven by the rest of the world.
It would ruin the credibility of the awards — all six of them.
Amazing that anyone would think he shouldn't be. But its a perfect example of why the prize is a joke.
Might as well give it to Obama again.
They are not going to give a Nobel prize to someone they know should be in jail.
Well there goes another example of absurd Trump support.
I thought giving it to Obama before he did anything other than speak the right words of peace was ridiculous.
This, however, would be giving a Peace prize to someone whose modus operandi is disruption and negativity.
The world has spent the last year screaming that a genocide was happening in Gaza. His administration has done more than anyone to achieve this ceasefire. To argue he's not a leading candidate for a "Peace Prize" because a partisan witch-hunt convicted him of marking the wrong category in a campaign disclosure shows just how dumb the award is.
It's a just a suck up to progressives award, not an achievement award. Nothing could be more discrediting to this award than ruling someone out because he's not nice.
I agree the award is a joke and simply a reflection of who the global elite "likes." It has nothing to do with actually achieving peace.
whose modus operandi is disruption and negativity
Who cares? His MO accomplished more for peace than Obama ever did with mindless platitudes. Ending wars matters. Not pandering to the prejudices of elite progressives.
You dont get it and its getting worse.
It is interesting how Trump supporters can forget all the past and continuing outrageous negatives of Trump and exaggerate the rare good he winds up doing.
It's alright. Those grapes were probably sour anyway.
Where did he say that?
So you think they are crying because of RECRIPICAL tariffs and he said mean things? You assume they think like you?
Read his comment rather than blindly paste in an oblivious cliche quip.
So you don't know where he said it either.
ODS
Maybe we should compare what Trump has accomplished vs what Obama accomplished when he received it. I'll start the list for Obama 1.) hmmm, ahhh, duh
Doesn't seem to matter. Although since the participants are nominated in January I agree Trump probably should not be considered until next year. If he helps to achieve peace in 7 or 8 places around the globe (especially if Israel and Ukraine are two of them it would be hard to say he should not be considered. Unless they count mean tweets as important to the committee. Personally after Obama won the prize has no credibility and Donald should not care if he got it. Once again it is his ego getting in the way.
Nowhere.
Not sure he is the one that should read the comment.
The Nobel committee publicly said that they will never give a prize to someone with no integrity. Trump doesnt have a chance, this year, next year, or 20 years from now.
Incorrect. According to google AI
He was addressing the subject of Trump lobbying for the Nobel Peace Prize. Trump does not meet the qualifications and never will. He has no integrity.
He was obviously talking about the people in the room since he said "that room" yet you continue with the misinformation.
Google AI:
Misinterpreted quote: The quote attributing the committee to explicitly withholding the prize from those without integrity is a misrepresentation that gained traction on social media.
Of course not. It should go to the first black American president for being elected.
I have already stated that giving the peace prize to Obama simply based on words and before he had any chance of deeds was a bad move.
But giving a peace prize to someone who intentionally creates chaos is far worse.
Well of course if Trump is seen as establishing a lasting peace that would be a truly magnificent accomplishment.
Lasting peace. Unfortunately, the underlying tensions that triggered this war continue as they have since 1947.
The best that one can realistically expect is an end to the current war and the removal of Hamas from power.
One can hope that a lasting peaceful coexistence might emerge, but it is extremely unlikely.
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As much as I want to be surprised, I will be VERY surprised if Hamas and Islamic JIhad will give up being armed. How else could they righteously fuilfill the command of Allah in the Q'oran for them to kill the Jews?
Sorry, it was not in the Q'oran, it was a Hadith.
LINK -> hadith interpretation - Context for "there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him" - Islam Stack Exchange
Which is why the Imams preach to their righteous followers:
"The Day of Judgement will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them."
LINK -> Hadith | Definition, Meaning, & Examples | Britannica
It would seem to me to be a reason not to kill someone.
I think their beliefs differ from yours.
Well, since they are ostensibly continually fighting for some dead guy in a headscarf for what he and his buddies wrote down hundreds of years ago (as opposed to the desire for naked power
), I would say that is a pretty good "think".
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Just too much winning for some of ya.
"Israel and Hamas agreed to the first phase of a ceasefire deal overnight that, if successful, will halt fighting in Gaza to release the remaining hostages in exchange for Israel’s release of Palestinian prisoners, prompting celebrations among Israelis and Palestinians. Many of the details of the deal remain unclear. The thornier issues within the wider U.S.-backed plan to permanently end the war — such as the disarmament of Hamas and a full withdrawal of Israeli troops from the enclave — are not in this first phase and appear to have been left for future negotiations.
The Israeli government will vote to approve the deal on Thursday afternoon. Then, a 24-hour deadline will be imposed for Israeli forces to make an initial and partial withdrawal from Gaza, according to a senior U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the terms of the deal."
Live updates: Israel and Hamas agree to release hostages in first phase of ceasefire deal - The Washington Post
Einav Zangauker, the mother of a hostage, Matan Zangauker, reacts to the news. ( Ronen Zvulun/Reuters)
What amuses me is that Hamas and their supporters negotiating have actually ADMITTED by demanding the release from Israeli prisons of almost 2000 Arabs, 250 of whom are murderers with blood on their hands, as an equal match for less than 50 innocent Israeli hostages mostly civilians. Hamas required that ratio, indicating that 1 Jew has the same value and benefit to the world as 40 Arabs. No surprise there.
1 JEW = 40 ARABS
Now, anyone taking bets that Hamas will not give up its guns?
After this episode, should Hamas survive, they'll make it a point to take hostages.
The marchers and demonstrators and flotilla crews are not concerned about the war crime of taking hostages, or the war crime of using human shields, etc. because it wasn't Israel that did them.
Ooooops! Trump didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize.
I'm glad you brought that up Buzz.
The winner did happen to be someone who deserved it: Maria Corina Machado. She is the brave woman who stood up against the dictator who made Venezuela a Socialist, drug running hell hole.
As for President Trump it is a badge of honor. We all knew the leftist clowns who gave a Peace Prize to Barack Obama simply for being the first black president weren't ever going to give the Peace Prize to President Trump no matter what he accomplishes. Historians will take note of that, and future generations will read all about the evil era of the left.
Trump can be proud that the committee continues to tarnish its reputation. Reputation is all the committee has.
Still crying about that? Wow.. LOL
Nor should he, he is waging war on America.
And back to waging a tariff war on China.
I hope they accomplish something wonderful. Who knows? Maybe there’ll be a Nobel Peace Prize as a result. Either way, unfortunately, Trump will demand 100% of the credit, instead of it going to the people actually doing the work.
UPDATE:
All hostages have been released.
After 737 days the last of the hostages have been released as part of the Peace deal this morning.
All living Israeli hostages freed by Hamas as part of Trump cease-fire
I think for the families of the hostages it is a great great day. Without question many people thought none of them would get out of this alive.
Is it a "win" for anybody? I dont think so. Yeah, Israel has won the war in Gaza, but in the process , because of the way they conducted it, have turned much of the world against them. Israel lost a lot of the high moral standing they have always had. Their leader is a piece of crap human being, and everyone knows it. Their government is right wing extremist. (Sounds familiar on both counts).
The day they get the two state solution will be a truly great day. Today is a day for the hostage families.
Try though you will, Trump's achievement cannot be diminished. Even the Palestinians are celebrating.
The hostages are free. Hamas has lost its leverage. Palestine has another chance to build a peaceful civilized society.
The President just gave a historic speech in Isreal. He is now in Egypt hoping to forge a peacekeeping force, not made up of Europeans or Americans or even those suspect blue helmeted UN troops, but of Arab forces. He is also trying to get wealthy Gulf states to invest in the rebuilding of Gaza.
There will be no two-state solution, the Israelis won't tolerate any ruling authorities that approach the savagery of the Hamas terrorists. Israel was left no choice as to how to conduct the war..
The Well-Deserved, Utter Humiliation of Palestinian Terrorists and Their Friends
The world will get over it.
How long before Trump is selling "Hostages Freed By Trump" memorabilia at his online store? I'm thinking a "Trump Made The Hostages Free Again" red hat.
He has never been guilty of humility. I'm not sure why he feels the need to do that. Maybe it's because the people who hate him so much refuse to give him the credit, he is due. For instance, you and I both agree that he will never get the Nobel Peace Prize. That committee is so far left that they much rather give such awards to Barack Obama for simply being the first black president.
They are not going to give Peace Prize to someone who threatens to invade other countries like Panama and Greenland and sends military troops into his own country's cities . the idea is absurd
They are never going to give it to Donald Trump PERIOD.
Are you on the road today?
I find it interesting that today October 13th, as of noon, nobody has posted an article on the remaining hostages being freed. Clearly the biggest story of the day. Maybe we aren't so interested in actual news after all.
The only thing Trump cares about what helps him personally if it helped him to have War he would have War if it helps him to have peace he will have peace. Israel will now build him golf courses.
Then why did the historic peace deal go so far as to positively touch everyone in the middle east?
Maybe we should encourage him to do more "selfish" things.
Joy around the world, yet we know there are some angry people and we know why.