Facing the hard facts of Obamacare
Link to quote: ObamaCare sticker shock begins as open enrollment meets shutdown deadlock
As the government shutdown lingers on, one of the issues that democrats pinned to it is the problem of Obamacare funding. Their reason for shutting down the government.
Here is the background to the story. You'll never get the truth from the dems. We were all told once upon a time that Obamacare was going to be similar to a single payer system and that it would make health care cheaper. It was based on bringing so many people into the system, especially young people who wouldn't use it much and subsidize those who needed it, that it would be fairly sustainable. Supposedly insurance companies would manage their costs to get in on it. It didn't take long to realize that all of those assumptions were dead wrong.
On top of it all, certain people (illegal aliens) eventually flooded the system. Eventually Obamacare needed a subsidy and that subsidy began escalading. During the Covid pandemic congress passed a massive subsidy for Obamacare. It was the idea of democrats and to make it more palatable they placed a sunset clause on it, thus these particular subsidies were set to expire now that the covid pandemic is largely over. It has now expired, but democrats want it back.
From the Paragon Health Institute:
"The truth? Premiums are expected to rise by $1,665, or 20%, on average, a Paragon Health Institute study found — yet the expiring subsidies account for only four of those percentage points, or just $333.
Fact is, most ObamaCare subsidies are not expiring.
What’s set to vanish is merely the added cash Democrats in Congress agreed to pay insurers (using taxpayer money) during COVID. That’s it."
Ignore Dem lies on Obamacare and their excuse for the gov't shutdown collapses
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You all should know better by now, but once again Trump was right:
... as america goes past the 9 year anniversary of trump's promise to replace the ACA with "a cheaper and better" healthcare plan.
He'll unveil his plan in two weeks. /s
more like 2 weeks after the autocratic asshole is dead, maybe ...
Now, now ..... The Republicans attempts to fix it were killed by one spiteful vote:
The topic here is why democrats demand that a sunset they wrote into a subsidy be written out as a condition to reopening the government.
We are talking about YOUR healthcare plan. The one democrats sacrificed their careers for.
the one that republicans added so many golden parachute amendments to reward their friends in the healthcare insurance industry, only to vote against it afterwards, after they'd collected their cash windfalls from lobbyists.
"Every president sees his party lose hundreds of positions — it's the price a party holding the White House pays — but no president has come close to Obama. During Obama's eight years in office, the Democrats have lost more House, Senate, state legislative and governors seats than under any other president."
The Democratic Party Got Crushed During The Obama Presidency. Here's Why : NPR
It came at a high cost.
And then the SCOTUS had to fix it for him!
It's NOT my plan. I wasn't involved in the year long Congressional debates, nor was I allowed to vote on it. Let me know when you have YOUR healthcare plan. Something that works from 350M plus Americans. One that increases life expectancies for mothers giving birth and their babies. One that covers rural America as well as urban centers. One that doesn't discriminate, or favor the haves, over the have nots.
It's easy to pick apart someone else's plan - when are Reps going to come up with a replacement? It's not like they haven't had time.
LMFAO!
Before I forget:
Happy Halloween
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That's right. But you must vote for us!
When a lie is the only way you can support a claim, it is not much of a claim.
And it's neither.
Currently the subsidies are costing approximately 500 BILLION.
Very little of it is going to the patient.
As with a lot of what we are seeing from the federal government, its wrought with fraud.
Who knew there would be fraud
The way the democrats pushed the ACA...we knew there would be fraud from the start.
The author of it admitted it was a lie:
The Premium Tax Credit (PTC) was a centerpiece of ACA from the beginning. PTC subsidies are not something that was tacked on to Obamacare later. Obamacare was always intended to be government subsidized health insurance. Obamacare was only intended to make health insurance affordable by paying part of the premium with public money and spreading the cost of insurance premiums across a bigger pool of healthy people through mandates.
Democrats actually believed that socialized health insurance would lower the cost of for-profit medical care? What did Democrats think would happen by throwing more free money at a privately owned, publicly traded system of medical care? Throwing money at Wall Street does not make anything more affordable, anywhere.
The politics of the situation is that people will naturally blame Republicans. The public expectation is that Republicans will make things worse for ordinary people. Facts won't turn that around. Republicans are at fault. Republicans lost this war before the first shot was fired. The insurance companies (and Wall Street) are safe because they just raise the premium price. It's ordinary people who will suffer. And Republicans don't care. The only thing business friendly Republicans do is make people's lives miserable and more difficult. That's the Republican brand, that's the public's expectation.
Ordinary people won't believe anything Republicans say about Obamacare. Because Republicans care more about money than people. Ordinary people need health care whether or not it's affordable. Republicans only jack the prices to make more money. That's what people expect.
Your video is unavailable. At least from your source. It requires extra work on my part to get your message. That's shoddy work.
Who am I? I am an American who firmly believes in the idea of liberty. Liberty requires true Protestant/Puritan conservative self-restraint along side freedom allowed by restrained government. If you do not want to be the slave of a master then you must be the master of yourself. If you want liberty then you must govern yourself.
Libertarian freedom is half assed liberty; that's un-American. Liberty does not mean you are free to do whatever the fuck you can get away with. If you cannot restrain yourself, if you cannot govern your vices, if you refuse to become your own master, then you cannot be an American.
America is not about freedom; it's about liberty. Liberty means you do not need a government to force you to do the right thing because you will govern yourself. Being free from oppressive restrictions is just the freedom of anarchy; that's not liberty or American. A sovereign citizen can never be an American because they place freedom above all things. A sovereign citizen is an anarchist; not an American.
Then you must give up.
You are another who didn't know what was in your best interest.
No, I did the work you refused to do.
How so? As an American I am already inclined to make sacrifices for the benefit of others. Why is it in my best interest for those who refuse to do the work to be allowed to exploit my willingness to sacrifice? Having to carry TEA Party Libertarians piggy back pisses me off but won't stop my American willingness to sacrifice for others.
What really pisses me off is when TEA Party freeloaders tell me they won because I'm stupid. What kind of American would do that?
This assumes they actually believe the shit they tell people.
Huge campaign contributions from big pharma and health insurers.
Fixed it for ya.
Thank Yew!
Have no fear, Trump has a concept of a plan for health care. Its coming in just two weeks from now.
No plan is better than what Obama sicked on this country.
and yet the ACA is 20 plus points more popular than the current POTUS.
He’ll release it as soon as he’s not under audit.
And just after Melania's press confernce about her immigration status.
Obamacare predictably failed. Now it's going to be an ever growing drain on the government, just as its opponents predicted when they opposed it.
LMAO!!!!
Isn't it amazing how history repeats itself and how words from the past can be so relevant today. President Obama during the government shutdown back in 2013.
... ain't that the truth.
Absolutely Amazing!
Obamacare was designed to fail when Barack Obama proposed the program. There are real reasons Nancy Pelosi demanded Obamacare be passed before finding out what was in the legislation. Democrats have started throwing enormous amounts of public money at the financial sector to protect what? Democrats' legacy? Democrats' brand? Democrats' gravy train for the wealthy and connected?
Now the TEA Party geniuses have adroitly intercepted the blame for Democrats' train wreck. No matter what the facts, no matter what Democrats do, the public is going to blame Republicans. It's all Republicans' fault.
Donald Trump is being forced to fund SNAP. How is that Democrats' fault? Donald Trump is paying the military with donations from government contractors. How is that Democrats' fault? Donald Trump is firing Federal workers because Congress can't do its job. How is that Democrats' fault? Donald Trump is demanding the elimination of the filibuster. How is that Democrats' fault?
Trump and the TEA Party (pretending to be MAGA) weren't elected to steal lollipops from babies. Those optics are all wrong. What kind of Americans would do such a thing?