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Study Finds Benefits From Cutting Saturated Fats, as RFK Jr. Promotes Them

  

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Via:  hallux  •  11 months ago  •  71 comments

By:   Jennifer Calfas - WSJ

Study Finds Benefits From Cutting Saturated Fats, as RFK Jr. Promotes Them
Health secretary has said new federal guidelines would stress ‘need to eat saturated fats’

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People susceptible to developing heart issues benefit the most from reducing their consumption of saturated fats, according to a review of research that comes as the federal government prepares to revise dietary recommendations.

A paper published Monday in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that people at high risk of developing cardiovascular problems saw a reduction in major health issues including heart attack and stroke when they cut back on saturated fats. The picture was different for people without those same cardiovascular risks. Within five years, cutting saturated fats didn’t yield the same benefits for that group, the review said.


The report comes ahead of an anticipated change to federal dietary guidelines that are likely to   embrace the consumption of saturated fats . Health Secretary   Robert F. Kennedy Jr.   has said the government’s new guidelines would “stress the need to eat saturated fats, dairy, good meat, fresh meat and vegetables.” The secretary, who has said he follows a carnivore diet,   has lauded food companies   that use   beef tallow , the melted-down fatty tissue of cattle carcasses, instead of seed oils. 

The review analyzed data from more than a dozen trials with more than 66,000 people that examined how limiting the consumption of saturated fat affected a person’s cardiovascular health, cholesterol and mortality. Foods like steak, butter, ice cream, pizza and many sandwiches contain saturated fat.

The researchers said groups making dietary recommendations take more factors into account, including longer term risk of chronic diseases and the overall balance of a diet. “Our results are thus a small piece of the evidence used in informing the Dietary Guidelines for Americans,” said  Bradley Johnston , one of the study’s co-authors.

Cutting back on saturated fats is the best dietary advice to prevent high cholesterol for most people, said  Alice Lichtenstein , director of the Cardiovascular Nutrition Laboratory at Tufts University who wasn’t involved in the review.

“You can’t measure something that hasn’t developed yet in people who don’t have disease,” Lichtenstein said. “But the whole idea is you want to prevent it.” 

One systematic review shouldn’t have a major effect on policy without a broader body of evidence, she said.

The significance of limiting these fats in a person’s diet is greater when a person replaces those foods with polyunsaturated fats, or healthy fats, the review said. Studies have found replacing saturated fats in a person’s diet with polyunsaturated fat, like fatty fish or canola oil, has lowered a person’s level of low-density lipoprotein, or bad cholesterol. It has also reduced their risk of cardiovascular disease. 

The federal government for decades has advised Americans to reduce their consumption of foods with high concentrations of saturated fats. Government guidelines, which are updated every five years, currently recommend keeping these fats to less than 10% of a person’s daily consumed calories. The American Heart Association recommends saturated fats make up less than 6% of calories a person eats each day.

The effort to reduce the consumption of saturated fat began in the 1960s, affecting the diets of Americans and the food industry for decades. 

The health risks associated with saturated fat also depend on the type of food. Hot dogs and other processed meats contain a lot of sodium, which can raise blood pressure, for example. By contrast, the type of fat in milk and yogurt have been linked to weight loss and controlling blood sugar.


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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    11 months ago

The 'Hyannis Port Terror' strikes again ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1    11 months ago

sequels are rarely as good as the original ...

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
2  Freefaller    11 months ago

A little off topic but that is one good looking burger

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @2    11 months ago

The beef and cheese are trying to escape from the bun - maybe they don't want to be consumed.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.1.1  CB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    11 months ago

That's not heart healthy. I ought to know. And I do from past experience! 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.   has said the government’s new guidelines would “stress the need to eat saturated fats, dairy, good meat, fresh meat and vegetables.”

This is the man looking to take fluoride out of our national tap water and who complains about ultra-processed foods, now he is telling 'everybody' to feed themselves like they are a bottom-less pit? I get that. . . Robert. . .thinks muscle and fat makes a man "man-sized" in every way, yet he doesn't realize that a more significant man 'part' is the heart and it should have something to say about what makes the man live! Saturated fat and whole milk are not "heart-friendly." And "added sugar" - it is not heart-friendly. 

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    11 months ago
maybe they don't want to be consumed.

it's probably lab grown GMO mutant meat

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @2.1.2    11 months ago

Cooked by robots?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.1.4  cjcold  replied to  CB @2.1.1    11 months ago

I imagine that the Heartland Institute will convince him that cigarettes are good for you next.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2  shona1  replied to  Freefaller @2    11 months ago

Arvo..

That a burger!!

Wouldn't pass here in a flying fig.

You need a decent bun with no sugar in it toasted..

Lettuce cheese tomato beetroot pineapple bacon egg onion and beef patty..

Now that is a burger...ask any Aussie they'll tell ya..🐨

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Thomas
Professor Guide
2.2.1  Thomas  replied to  shona1 @2.2    11 months ago

Must have one really large mouth to eat that....

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
2.2.2  Freefaller  replied to  shona1 @2.2    11 months ago

Lol I'm not an elisitist and willl take a good burger in many forms

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2.3  shona1  replied to  Thomas @2.2.1    11 months ago

Morning..nope there is a knack to eating a good burger with fresh ingredients..

Not that fantastic plastic muck Macca's call a hamburger..with pickles...lord save us...

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
2.2.4  Freefaller  replied to  shona1 @2.2.3    11 months ago
with pickles...lord save us...

All good burgers have pickles on them, great burgers have extra pickles :)

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2.5  shona1  replied to  Freefaller @2.2.4    11 months ago

Gross... sacrilege.. never..!!.

Hell would freeze over here before anyone asked for pickles with a hamburger with the lot from a fish and chip shop.. other than at crappy Macca's..

That's nearly as bad as saying poor man's Vegemite Marmite, is better than the true black gold!!.. never, nuh huh...you would be put back on a plane and deported..

Flipping pickles, what's next!!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @2.2.5    11 months ago

onions?

forget any "special sauce" I hate that stuff

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Freefaller @2.2.2    11 months ago

One of the best burgers I ever had was in a greasy spoon in downtown Chicago.  Peppers was the name of the place, and it usually looked a half step away from being shut down by the health department. 

If you asked for a cheeseburger with "everything on it" here is what they put on it -  sweet pickle relish , grilled onions, and sliced jalapeno peppers. They were outstanding. 

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
2.2.8  Freefaller  replied to  shona1 @2.2.5    11 months ago
Flipping pickles, what's next!!

Lol pineapples, mushrooms, jalepenos, onion rings who knows the options are endless

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
2.2.9  Freefaller  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.7    11 months ago

Sometimes greasy spoon joints are the best

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.10  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @2.2    11 months ago

that should hold the morning vegemite dosage down ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2.11  shona1  replied to  devangelical @2.2.10    11 months ago

Huh..in your dreams yah yobbo..😁

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.12  Krishna  replied to  Freefaller @2.2.9    11 months ago
Sometimes greasy spoon joints are the best

Yup.

Just as sometimes Marlboro or Camels are the most satisfying!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3  Trout Giggles    11 months ago

More saturated fats??? I'm down with that! I like butter. Real cow's butter. And McDonald's french fries were so much better when they were fried in beef tallow.

And the secret to a great pie crust? Lard

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
3.1  Freefaller  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago
McDonald's french fries were so much better when they were fried in beef tallow.

Yes they were.  Currently my fast food fave fries are Dairy Quenn, they're a little thicker and service is a little slower cut but always crispy and hot

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago

funny, I can only think of one saturated fat in this country that needs to be cut ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3  shona1  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    11 months ago

Morning...I am with you..butter to the eye balls.. dripping and lard definitely..

One thing I couldn't come at though and was in my English grandmother's era...

Dripping on bread...that was the staple for many poor people in her day...but at least you didn't starve...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.1  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3    11 months ago
Dripping on bread...

... I shudder to imagine what that may mean in oz. dare I ask ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.2  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.1    11 months ago

Rendered beef fat.. don't see it around much these days..use to buy it in a container.. always made the best fried chips..

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devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.3  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.2    11 months ago

if my past consumption of food that's supposed to be bad for you is any indication, I'd probably like it. unlike that fermented vegetable paste that's smeared on bakery goods on some desert island by the descendants of criminals ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.3.3    11 months ago
desert island by the descendants of criminals ...

ooohhh....you shouldn't have said that

She's gonna hit you with an Ozzie cuss word that none of us will figure out

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.4    11 months ago

is calling it the land of misfit brits any better?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.3.5    11 months ago

stop while you're only 3 feet deep

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.7  shona1  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.6    11 months ago

Morning fishy.....to late..🤣

Don't worry that feral, yobbo, drongo, numpty, bogan from the land of septics is on thin ice and wouldn't know decent food if he bit it..

Meanwhile on this sandbar I am hitting the waves today..sun, sand and surf..

What's Devangy got..snow, ice and blizzards..🤣🤣

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.3.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @3.3.7    11 months ago

That's my girl!

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.9  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.7    11 months ago

I'm stuffing my backpack now to come visit you and camp in your yard all summer. I'll dance naked in the moonlight with vegemite smeared all over my body in front of your windows and your revulsion to me will soon fade away. then I'll paint a silhouette of a seal on the underside of your surfing raft while you're in a vegemite stupor ... 

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.10  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.9    11 months ago

Geez I can hardly wait...

What a waste of good Vegemite..

I am sure the possums and koalas will be impressed with your dancing..they could issue tickets...

I'm to fast for the sharks and they prefer overseas tasty tourists..just ask them..

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.11  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.10    11 months ago

you'll bloody take leave of your senses and fold up like a yard chair when you see that much vegemite ...

... I'll probably start some kind of fad or trend on that bloody rock.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.12  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.11    11 months ago

To late, already been done before..

The person didn't survive..attacked by a kangaroo who thought it was their mate .🦘🤣

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.13  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.12    11 months ago

your cat will attach itself to me and then infuriate you by loudly demanding that you still serve her.

I like eggs, bacon, and toast with my morning coffee ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.14  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.13    11 months ago

Funny you should say that..

Sitting out in the backyard right now eating an egg and bacon muffin with an earl grey cuppa and the cat is beside me..🤣

Not a snow flake in sight..a balmy 24c at the moment..🏝️🏖️🌊🏄

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devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.15  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.14    11 months ago

your cat is waiting for you to vacate the chair she didn't know she wanted to sit in until you sat in it ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.16  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.15    11 months ago

No I am afraid chairs don't do for the blue blood.. it's now parked itself on my bed she is starting to feel the heat..

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.17  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.9    11 months ago

Huh...hit 37 here so hit the waves...

 I survived no sign of jaws but there were plenty of tasty tourists around..the rat race has begun as schools finish for the year tomorrow..I got the last flaming car spot at the beach..

Then I forgot about the burning sand so my soles on my feet are half cooked...have to remember to take my thongs next time..

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devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.18  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.17    11 months ago

34°f  here ...

109 mph wind gusts along the foothills the night before last, waiting on the next blizzard ...

remember to take my thongs next time..

... uh, ... it might be a better idea to call them flip-flops around here next time.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.3.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @3.3.14    11 months ago

She's beautiful, Shona

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.20  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.19    11 months ago

she always displays the proper feline attitude towards humans ... 

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.21  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.18    11 months ago

Flip flops..🤣🤣 next you will be wanting to call them jandles like the Kiwis..

They're are thongs, Vangy thongs..

Even Bluey knows they're thongs..just think the next generation of Yanks is going to be corrupted and calling them thongs..now that's a classic..

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shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.22  shona1  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.19    11 months ago

Morning..just turned 15...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.23  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.21    11 months ago

I was just trying to save you from any thongs on the beach jokes ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @3.3.21    11 months ago

I wear flip flops

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.25  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.24    11 months ago

I wear sandals.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
3.3.26  shona1  replied to  devangelical @3.3.25    11 months ago

Heathens..🤣

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.27  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @3.3.26    11 months ago

meh, your winter wool hat still has the dags attached ...

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4  CB    11 months ago

Okay everybody say it together now: "Congestive Heart Failure." 

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
4.1  shona1  replied to  CB @4    11 months ago

Morning..gotta go somehow so may as well enjoy it..

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.1  CB  replied to  shona1 @4.1    11 months ago

Hi Shona! And yet, heart failure can make that 'go' - PreMaTure. Here is the thing: Do what you can to live as long as you can. No promises. Just a certain INFORMED 'discipline.'  

Example: A doctor listens to your heart and determines the peculiar "thud" there is indicative of deeper investigation with internal (heart) scans. . . yep, it's heart failure (does not mean your heart has stopped beating - it is 'diseased') . . .now then, you will have to get it fixed or 'un-diseased' as best you can through surgery or death in a limited number of years. . . . 

Question: Would it have been better to not have heart disease in the first place if you could do better ahead of such diagnosis? Of course it would be better!

Additionally, after the diagnosis of heart failure, this new patient with a diseased heart will change his or her lifestyle anyway! Or not, and just keep on doing the same and die an early death because of it.

As for 'enjoying' death. . . nobody has returned and claimed it was a 'fun-land' experience! :) :(

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  CB @4.1.1    11 months ago

I went to hawaii for a wedding once and didn't want to come back home ...

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.3  CB  replied to  devangelical @4.1.2    11 months ago

I went to Hawaii ONCE and it was okay-and expensive! I do not miss it, per se.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.4  devangelical  replied to  CB @4.1.3    11 months ago

my son worked there for three years and learned to hate it, which is shocking to me ...

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.5  CB  replied to  devangelical @4.1.4    11 months ago

It is a great place to visit. . . but, if you do not plan (or are unable) to stay it's probably "high maintenance." That said, I have not been there in decades!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
4.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @4.1.2    11 months ago

I went to Hawaii 25-30 times, mostly to Kaua'i, and I almost moved there.  Glad I didn't, although I did make several very good local friends. I am still in contact with my closest friend on Kaua'i. I haven't been there for about 20 years, but I have been traveling to lots of other parts of the world.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.6    11 months ago

As you know I've been to Kauai as well, but it was exactly 53 years ago.  Also got to the Big Island and Oahu.  Unfortunately all my photos from there are colour slides back in storage in Toronto.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
4.1.8  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.7    11 months ago

I went to the Big Island and O'ahu on my first trip to Hawaii in 1976.  Since then I've been to O'ahu a few other times in conjuction with trips to other islands, and a few trips to beautiful Maui.  Some of my trips were to more than one island, but most of my trips were to Kaua'i only.  It was almost like my second home for many years.  Hanalei on the North Shore.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.1.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.8    11 months ago

Having been there, I fully understand your feelings about it.  Kauai is a kind of paradise. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
4.1.10  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.9    11 months ago
Kauai is a kind of paradise. 

There is no other place like it on Earth.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.8    11 months ago

I went to maui for a wedding. A close friend got married to a japanese girl and hawaii was the halfway point. they got married in an old catholic church that burnt to the ground in that fire they had a few years ago. I wore a double breasted suit, black with pinstripes, and as soon as we got outside for wedding pictures I put on my rayban aviators and suddenly became another japanese photo subject. that triggered a number of stereotypes in my mind.

later, I inadvertently created a minor international incident by laughing hysterically when a bridesmaid inquired about the pink instamatic camera I was using. I had bought a pink instamatic camera from walmart a few years before as a vacation camera. since I appreciate the comedy of ridiculing stereotypes, the thought of a japanese person so curious about the make of my camera struck me as incredibly funny. as I handed it to her to let her examine it, I noticed it only had 1 picture left. when she handed it back, I snapped a quick picture of something and then removed the film cartridge and gave it to her as a souvenir.

after a lot of japanese discussion I obviously did not understand, I was then informed by a japanese/american friend that I had made her lose face by her not having a gift to give me. I laughed it off and assured her that the camera had cost less than a drink at the bar and if it would ease her mind I would happily accept a drink for the camera. after a brief period of laughter and bowing, all was right with the world again. 20+ years after that wedding, whenever I speak to my still married friends, asking about my japanese girlfriend bridesmaid is still a running joke. 

sign me up for the US diplomatic corp ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
4.1.12  shona1  replied to  devangelical @4.1.11    11 months ago

Morning...yes you would do wonders for world diplomatic relationships..

It would be at war in a matter of hours..🦘

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.13  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @4.1.12    11 months ago

I don't think there was ever any real danger of an outbreak of ritualistic suicides ...

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
5  CB    11 months ago

Is RJK a medical professional or a scientist? An expert of 'any' kind? What bonafides does he have to be this agent in-charge of the common health good of the United States? Yes, I get that a president can appoint whomsoever he wishes to serve in a position of the government. . . still qualifications matter 'bigly' and importantly if you are going to be removing medical guidelines in and out!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6  Bob Nelson    11 months ago

Wait!

What??

Is this article implying that our nation's chief medical officer doesn't know what he's talking about?

He MUST be competent because he was chosen by our President.

Right?

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
7  Gsquared    11 months ago

Breaking News:  Smoking and drinking are GREAT for your heart!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @7    11 months ago

>whew<

 
 

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