US Regime Executes Civilian as Ruler Grows More Isolated
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Donald Trump speaks at the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC, on Jan. 6, 2026.
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WASHINGTON DC, USA - In what diplomats and historians of yore dubbed the "shining city on a hill," the United States of America now appears to be anything but. The nation is a powder keg.
Regime ruler Donald Trump is mired in yet another scandal, as shocking footage captured his agents executing an unarmed 37-year-old civilian and mother of three in broad daylight. The erratic behavior of the land's embattled sovereign has ratcheted up as he continues to further withdraw himself from public life, and his nation from the global stage.
On Wednesday, in the placid region of Minneapolis, Minnesota, state agents brutally killed 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good. The victim was in her vehicle, attempting to flee masked government agents, whom Trump has deployed all across the nation to terrorize the populace. As she appeared to heed orders - even waving at other agents' vehicles, yielding and welcoming them to pass her - an agent emerged as she moved to depart. As she turned the vehicle away, the agent aimed his weapon at the woman's head and fired, three separate times.
While footage clearly shows the victim attempting to avoid the agent, the state has nonetheless dubbed the victim a "domestic terrorist." The regime has quickly disseminated state propaganda insisting the victim deserved to be killed.
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He’s laughing at all the useful idiots ignoring the real tyrannical dictator.
Useful-- or useless?
Where are all the "Tea Party" anti-government protests waving their "Don't Tread on Me" flags?
This is the ACTUAL tyranny they were supposed to protest.
Republicans, Libertarians, Tea Party right wingers whined that Obama was going to do this, that Hillary was going to do this, that Kamala was going to do this, that Biden was going to do this, but instead when actual TYRANNY showed up they are happy about it!
Obama, Hillary, Kamala, Biden, or the right wing dreaded boogeyman FEMA, were NEVER going to send troops after right wingers or Christians or anybody else!!!
strapping on their kneepads and tying on their bibs ...
Nicely assembled rhetoric pushed by liberal victimologists and yet the facts remain.
If any one of those things weren’t true she would still be here today. She is not without fault. Far from it.
Jonathon Ross deliberately positioned himself in front of the vehicle for an easy head shot. Ross drew his weapon before the vehicle began moving forward. Ross made no attempt to get out of the way. Jonathon Ross used his badge to commit murder.
Other video shows that Good was there before any ICE agents showed up. The Federal kill squad deliberately escalated the situation for Ross to make a thrill kill. The video clearly shows that Ross was never in any danger. Otherwise Ross would have moved out of the way.
The Trump administration is now engaged in open, armed warfare with the American people. This is just such a situation the 2nd amendment was intended to guard against. All the right-wing bullshit about the 2nd amendment over the last 30 years has only protected criminals. If the 2nd amendment is not going to be used for its intended purpose then there is no justification for a liberal interpretation of gun rights.
Debatable interpretations but regardless, none of which changes any of the facts in my comment. I repeat, if any one of which were not true, she would still be here. Her actions have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, Noem or ICE. Nothing.
But they have to blame somebody and it's not going to be her.
The ICE agents deliberately created the situation. Good was sitting there waiting for traffic. Good was there before any ICE agents showed up.
If ICE had not deliberately escalated the situation then Good would still be alive. The ICE agents deliberately created an opportunity to commit murder. The situation ICE created is no different than using dogs for deer hunting. The dogs created the situation for the shooter.
Who or what are you defending? Donald Trump is a penthouse billionaire from New York la la land. Has Trump ever fired a weapon? What does Trump know about real world situations? What does Trump know about using dogs to set up a kill?
The lack of personal accountability on their part is egregiously non-existent.
Why does the TEA Party always blame the victim? Especially when that victim is a white woman?
A murder was committed. Using a gun. But the badge justifies the murder? Really?
How about blaming the shooter?
Oh so now you’re the Tea party when you point out simple personal accountability?
Roger that …..
This video shows that Jonathon Ross has deliberately positioned himself in front of the vehicle for an easy head shot. The dogs are barking at the door to escalate the situation.
This video shows that Ross draws his weapon before the vehicle moves forward. Ross makes no attempt to move out of the way. Ross is firing in the direction of other agents. The dog at the door is attracting the attention of Good.
This was a staged thrill kill. Ross committed deliberate murder using a firearm.
Here is another angle on the shooting. Good is waiting for traffic to clear. A grey pickup with ICE agents show up. Ross deliberately places himself in front of the vehicle for an easy head shot as the ICE dogs begin their harassment. Ross made no attempt to move out of the way. Ross was firing in the direction of other agents. And we're supposed to believe this was not a staged thrill kill?
Right ….. parked nearly perpendicular, near the middle of the road waiting for traffic to clear? C’mon man!
It's been missing for quite a while. I guess it goes with their very limited attention span.
And that woman has to meet very specific criteria. In this case, the dumbass in Minnesota fits. And because she fits they willfully overlook HER actions and put blame somewhere else.
[✘] look at the ENTIRE situation instead of a very small snippet[✘]
That's what the video shows. Video footage from a random security camera is not part of a left wing conspiracy.
Would you want to be on the same team as Johnathon Ross? Would you really be willing to place your life in the hands of a trigger happy agent?
Your eyes are not lying to you. This was a ICE kill squad using a dogs and shooter tactic.
Jonathon Ross's behavior is not exemplary. Ross doesn't live up to any sort of code of conduct for law enforcement or military combat. Jonathan Ross is a danger to civilians and his fellow agents.
You want to blame Good for being there. But Ross is not guilty of deliberately placing himself in that position? ICE is not guilty of escalating the situation? This ICE kill squad deserves praise?
This is the type of situation the 2nd amendment was intended to guard against. If the 2nd amendment is not going to be used for its intended purpose then there is really no excuse for a liberal interpretation of gun rights.
Which brings us back full circle to #3 above. No, I would not have put myself in any of those positions. You seem to think this is a defense of the ICE agents actions. It is not. It is simple pointing out the shooting victims culpability here.
It surprises me that you apparently think she has none.
Goods partner or friend or whoever she was smartmouthed Ross seconds before the shooting. Maybe thats why he deliberately stood in front of the car.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
Nobody claimed he was an angel.
That was the catalyst that set this whole thing off. if she had stayed in Colorado with the ONE of two children she had custody of...
By the way, after he shot her in the head three times you can hear him say "fucking bitch" as the car goes down the street.
Well, let's just play that blame game. The only reason Renee Good was there was because ICE was operating in a residential area. So, the ICE presence and aggressive actions are what actually triggered everything.
Renee Good lived there. Renee Good was a resident of Minneapolis. The ICE agents were hired bounty hunters brought in on a political mission. The ICE agents are responsible for bringing violence into a residential area.
The Trump administration is now engaged in open and violent warfare with the American people. The Trump administration has adopted a presumption of guilt. The Trump administration is deploying mercenaries to the streets of the heartland to aggressively intimidate, harass, and coerce citizens of the United States where they live. ICE has become worse than BLM.
If she were not there, NONE of this would be happening.
Only if you are triggered by law enforcement doing their jobs. Then I have to question that person's mental stability. Seems self-control was sorely lacking if you want to play that pathetic excuse.
Now that's some tin foil hat conspiracy theory you have thrown out there.
"If no one does anything to defend their rights, then Trump's goons won't kill them."
That's not really reassuring.
Why are you blaming the victim to shift attention away from the unprofessional, criminal behavior of ICE agents? Why should Renee Good receive more blame than Jonathon Ross?
I have not been defending Renee Good. I have provided specific evidence that shows ICE agents engaged in kill squad tactics. I have specifically pointed out, with evidence, that Jonathon Ross deliberately placed himself for an easy head shot in anticipation of the agents escalating the situation.
Blaming Good is not a defense of the ICE agents. Blaming Good is not justification for ICE agents being in the residential neighborhood. Blaming Good does not excuse the ICE agents deliberate tactic to escalate the situation in an unprofessional manner.
Jonathon Ross committed deliberate murder. Ross pulled the trigger and obviously did not need to. Renee Good did not dictate Ross's actions. Ross, alone, is responsible for his choices and actions. Ross, alone, is accountable for his crime.
Exactly.
"They" . . . ???
Not sure what sort of motive they would have for that, particularly with the spotlight on them during these "raids". While I feel that this statement and "This was a staged thrill kill", might be a bit of an exaggeration, I still think that ICE and the administration should accept responsibility for this and at least make efforts to better train their agents to not escalate these sorts of situations. Like any other police shooting, there should be sympathy for the family and promises of a complete investigation by the agency, not excuses and a concerted effort to besmirch the victim.
Should she have been there? Perhaps not, but again it was the responsibility of the ICE agents to keep everyone safe while performing their duties, and that includes people like Ms. Good.
I have zero faith that the Trump administration will investigate this fairly on their own.
She's not a victim by any stretch of the meaning.
Lets start with her actions.
They only engaged in those tactics after she hit an agent with a car.
You're right. If the las administration did what they were supposed to and deported illegals instead of moving them around the country things would be much different. Since they didn't, here we are.
Only in the eyes of those who are ignoring all the facts and running with a bullshit narrative.
Jonathon Ross's own cellphone confirms that Good is the victim. When the harassing agent first shouted at Good while approaching the driver's door, Ross was on the passenger side of the vehicle where the physics of this universe would not have allowed the vehicle to strike Ross.
Ross didn't end up on the left front corner of the vehicle by accident. Ross deliberately placed himself there in a space of a few seconds. Ross's cellphone video shows he had to hurry to get into that position. And there was no need for Ross to be there. The harassing agent had his own back up behind him.
Jonathon Ross was an incompetent ass. Ross endangered his life, endangered the lives of other agents, and was an obvious danger to Renee Good. Ross positioned himself for a kill without regard to anyone else's safety. Ross's own cellphone video provides circumstantial evidence for 3rd degree murder.
In Minnesota 3rd degree murder is causing the death of another by an "eminently dangerous" act stemming from a "depraved mind, without regard for human life". How many times has Ross discharged his service weapon over his 10 years in law enforcement? What was Ross's last weapon proficiency score? Ross obviously had no regard for the other agent at Good's vehicle door.
Why do you think Minnesota officials have been locked out of the investigation? Ross is guilty as hell and the Feds know it.
I think the key to whole thing might very well be Good's wife sassing him.
He-men dont take no lip from dykes.
So you are going to ignore the fact he moved from the passenger side. The mere idea that he moved escapes any common sense checks?
And Good is a blithering idiot blocking traffic and attempted to kill somebody. Again, if she were not there, NONE of this would be happening.
Federal agents can be prosecuted for violation of state laws concerning capital crimes. The prosecutor would need to show that Ross's actions were not a reasonable and necessary part of his official Federal duties. Ross's cellphone video would convict Ross. The available video clearly shows that Ross moving to his final position and firing in the direction of other agents clearly was not part of Ross's official duties. Ross's actions were governed by personal motivations and not official requirements.
The Federal investigators know that Ross could be convicted of a capital crime under Minnesota law. The video is that obvious. The Fed's blocking Minnesota participation in the investigation may not be sufficient to avoid prosecution.
I already stated that Ross did not end up on the driver's side of the vehicle by accident. Why was moving to that position part of Ross's official duties? What official function was Ross performing by rushing to that position?
The agent interacting with Good had his own back up. That's the protocol. The agent interacting with Good did not need Ross. And the agent interacting with Good certainly was not in sufficient danger to require Ross firing in the agent's direction. The agent interacting with Good had reached inside the vehicle and his head was only inches away from Good's head. Ross's first snap shot was reckless, endangered another agent's life, and was unnecessary.
There really is sufficient video evidence to question Ross's motivations. His service record may reveal a pattern. A prosecutor would likely have enough for an indictment.
That is something to ask ICE trainers.
And Ross was more than likely part of that back up.
That's a matter of opinion.
Again, matter of opinion.
Just as there is evidence to question Good's motivations. But you and the rest of the left don't want to address that.
I have been pointing out what the evidence shows. But the TEA Party diehards cannot address the evidence because the facts are not on their side so all they have is gaslighting, name calling, and made up crap. The TEA Party is just as separated from reality as the left.
Enjoy life in the bubble. Because sooner or later that bubble is going to pop.
you've been pointing out evidence that backs what you want to push.
Ross's own cellphone video does not support the narrative that Renee Good attempted to attack Ross with her vehicle. Ross's cellphone video does not exonerate Ross. And Ross's cellphone video is not the only video evidence available.
Where is your evidence?
There is the problem. It appears that you're focusing on a very limited number of videos. There are more than just one.
Not doing the work for you. Google is your friend.
Interesting observation, and the photos and video showing where the bullet hole was in the windshield makes that even more evident. I happen to know quite a few people in law enforcement, and as you might imagine, when I discuss this with them they are somewhat split on the actions of agent Ross. But one of them said just what you said Nerm, that Ross appears to have put his fellow officer in some danger by taking the position he did and by drawing and firing his weapon the way he did with one hand. It does not seem like the safe or logical approach to take in this situation.
I have provided evidence to back up the statements I've been making. You have not backed up your claims. I have not been bleating about protesters. You have.
I have not been attacking ICE. I have not expressed sympathy for immigrants. I have not sided with the protesters. What I have done is point out that a Federal officer has used his badge to commit murder. Jonathon Ross engaged in reckless behavior, endangered a fellow officer, and maliciously killed a civilian who had, at worst, committed misdemeanor crimes. Now the Trump administration is harboring a murderer. Now Trump is deploying more ICE agents on a political mission to intimidate state officials and the citizens of an American city.
drawing and firing his weapon the way he did with one hand. It does not seem like the safe or logical approach to take in this situation.
Strange itchy trigger behavior for a former firearms instructor. Maybe he just really wanted to kill a fucking bitch. They gave this guy a machine gun in Iraq - I wonder how many innocents were cut down under those circumstances.
Plus, per protocol, he should have stepped aside. Firing on this vehicle in these circumstances was not only uncalled for, it was expressly against protocol.
No, you are unable to deliver a rebuttal.
You cannot deliver evidence that shows Good was trying to hit the officer. But there is plenty of clear evidence showing that her car was pointed to the right, away from the officer. Further, the momentum of her car after she was shot proves that she was heading down the street and not towards her killer.
new enhanced video shows the car not hitting Ross
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He positioned himself on the front driver's corner to make the shot and stayed there aiming at the driver. After the shot he seems to push away from the vehicle to reposition to shoot the driver from the driver's window.
As with the other videos, he clearly was on the side of the vehicle and the vehicle was turning right and thus away from him.
No matter how many times videos like these are shown, Trump supporters continue to deny reality and parrot the lies of the corrupt Trump administration.
There is no chance that he would have been "run over".
Correct. None.
But he also intentionally positioned himself there before the vehicle began to move forward.
The same video to which John has linked, has been used by some as proof that Ross was actually struck by the left front corner of Ms. Goods car. There is some other photographic evidence of denting in that quarter panel that may indicate he was struck there. The full video shows the event at full speed, half speed and 1/3 speed but is also quite grainy.
In the video you can clearly see Ross is lifted back and away from the vehicle as it turned away from him. Now whether he jumped or pushed himself back or he was moved back by the force of the vehicle striking his chest or mid-section is not entirely clear. If he was holding his gun in the one hand and his cell phone in the other, I'm not clear how he might have pushed himself away. I imagine that will be investigated further.
One thing that does look clear is that he positioned himself in front of the vehicle and it appears he leaned in further as it started to move forward and he drew his gun. So if the vehicle did push him back, and he didn't make more of an effort to avoid contact, then that still seems like it was his responsibility. By his positioning and actions he endangered himself, his fellow officers, and of course Ms. Good whether the vehicle made contact with him or not, IMHO. But I am no expert and will defer to those who have better facts and evidence and maybe clearer video.
Precisely.
It is obvious (especially if you compare this with other angles) that the officer positioned himself to fire into the corner of the windshield. He kept leaning into the car (with his feet outside of the path) while firing and used his left arm to provide a buffer ... keeping his body away from the vehicle.
Look very closely. Then look at other videos showing where his feet were (from the other side of the vehicle).
I have watched every video that I can find on this. IMO if this case were to go to a fair trial, this officer would be found guilty of manslaughter. Properly.
One more thing. If the car had bumped the officer as some seem to want to interpret this, that does not in any way justify the use of lethal force. The officer is wrong even under the most generous of interpretations.
If this officer was in an alley and a car was barreling down on him and he had no way to step aside, that would justify the use of lethal force.
When a vehicle is leaving the scene and an officer positions himself close to the vehicle in order to fire a shot (he drew his weapon prior to the vehicle moving forward; note that this video starts with the officer holding his gun and his arm already outstretched and aiming at the vehicle), when he could have simply made one more step aside and be entirely clear, the officer has directly violated protocol. The protocol is to step aside and let other officers pursue the vehicle.
premeditated murder...a capital crime for sure
I think a case could be made for premeditated murder. I will probably keep harping on that just so you know
Either way, this officer needs to be held accountable for the unnecessary killing of a human being.
How so? I believe that premeditated murder would require an indisputable motive and intent. What motive other than a misguided need for self defense would he have had to kill a woman he did not know with dozens of people watching?
I agree with TiG, more likely a charge of manslaughter might be brought.
Was her being there illegal or an offense justifying capital punishment? Or was it at worst a traffic infraction?
Commands to get out of the way, or to submit to someone who had no authority over her. ICE powers are limited.
She attempted to leave, nobody was in her way and there was only 1 ICE officer near where she was turning and he was to the side as all videos of the incident showed.
So it's the victim's fault that she was shot while trying to drive around an ICE vehicle that was in the middle of the road?
According to reactionary propagandists, it's all her fault.
Irrelevant to my comment. Did she follow law enforcement commands? It’s a simple yes or no answer.
Again, irrelevant and another simple yes or no answer.
She is culpable to the extent of my three points. I understand you and your friends on the left want no personal accountability but that dog don’t hunt since Pinocchio left office. Unlike the pussy that murdered Ashli Babbit, this ICE agent will be held accountable for his actions. Bank on it.
Super, show me where anyone here said that.
Unfortunately it is not a simple yes or no. What "legal" commands was she being given? The only "legal" one would be to move her car out of the way. Again, ICE has very very limited powers in regards to citizens.
Wrong again. She is under no compulsion to respond to "illegal" commands from a person that cannot not legally issue those commands.
And once again, your 3 points are based on ignorance or (more likely) partisan gaslighting.
You forget one point. Kash Patel's FBI is attempting to exclude all local law enforcement (city or state) from participating in the investigation.
Pinocchio?
"If no one tries to defend the Constitution, no one will get hurt."
... well... not immediately.
Later, when the camps are up and running...
When I think of my friends on the left and their interpretation of Constitution I think I of a quote from Charlie Sheen:
Winning!
You don't interest me. Your posts here disqualify you from intelligent discourse.
Anyone who watches the bodycam video and thinks the feds executed her is disqualified from intelligent discourse.
You can't run into LEO's with your truck and expect nothing bad to happen.
Sorry you're wrong. If anything the CELL PHONE video released makes him look worse.
He had a cell phone in one hand and a gun in the other. Why?
It seems like he was upset because the lesbian talked back to him.
She's driving a Honda Pilot mid sized SUV, it is not a truck.
and I don't believe a jury of his peers will think she was threatening to "run him over".
According to AI
Oh,..It's okay to hit LEO's with mid sized SUVs....
f his peers will think she was threatening to "run him over".
She hit him with a "mid sized SUV", threatening is pretty irrelevant. She did it.
onathan Ross has been involved in multiple incidents of misconduct, including being dragged and injured during an arrest attempt
Cool. Please document the misconduct charge from when the illegal alien dragged him during an arrest...Or any time.
Loony talk. Do you even remember the talking points from 24 hours ago?
She didn't him with her truck. She was in the wrong place, wrong time. She was panicked. etc etc.
The idea that you think this makes him worse is so preposterous as to be unbelievable. You want him to be guilty to so he is. Damn the evidence.
e had a cell phone in one hand and a gun in the other. Why?
To protect himself from liars like Adam Schiff and every other progressive who just makes things up knowing progressive media will cling to the narrative.
Yet again, another video debunks left wing lies.
t seems like he was upset because the lesbian talked back to him.
I'm sure he was mad radical activists were obstructing law enforcement activities. Anyone having their job obstructed by crazy people would be bothered.
Um, she didn't do that. Trump said Ross was ran over and was in critical condition yet....he's on video walking away. Do you buy trump's lies automatically?
That she hit him with her car is proven by the video. You should watch it.
Awwww …. Guess I’ll just have to find a way to live with that.
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So you admit that trump lied. Good job.
Winning. . .what exactly?
No, it is not proven by the video. If one wants to believe that an instance of the camera going off frame and then returning to position is evidence for only that, that is too bad, because that is not the only conclusion that can be drawn from the video. The noises that one hears are gunshots and possibly the phone hitting the agents vest as he draws his gun. Could one of the noises be the car contacting him? Yes, but given the other angles in other videos, I would say that is not the case.
Regardless, the administration's full court press and doubling down on the provably false narrative that it put out within minutes of this occurring should tell us all something about the quality of the information coming out of the same. That is, this administration is lying to the country and seeing which people will swallow the obvious lies and which will spit it out.
Obviously you swallowed.
The denial contained in that comment is egregiously copious. The available videos clearly show her, at best, only aiming the car in his direction and at worst, hitting him. Either way, he had a split second to make a life or death decision that she initiated.
The delusion involved in denying those realities is epic even by today’s standards.
Yes, even if the car completely missed (it obviously didn't) he'd still have been in reasonable apprehension for his safety when he pulled the trigger. He's not omniscient. Per Justice Kagan, the relevant question is whether he had a reasonable apprehension that he, or anyone would else, was at risk of significant injury when he pulled the trigger.
It's indisputable that when he pulled the trigger he knew a criminal is ignoring orders to get out of her car and stepped on the accelerator while he was in front of it. No reasonable person can deny the danger of that.
It has been admitted by Frey that the woman hit the officer.
Possibly it is you who swallowed.
I can assure you that if the agent was seriously injured or killed, most leftists , and even some on here, would be cheering and saying he deserved it since he was in front of the car.
It just depends in the narrative they are told to push.
Agreed, which simple illustrates just how deranged some folks thinking is.
The “Babbitt” shooting was righteous but the “Good” shooting was not? Yeah right.
why did the DC police lock and barricade the Speakers Lobby door if they intended to allow an Ashley Babbitt to come in?
It wasn’t the DC police it was the Capital police. Did Ashli Babbitt threaten that Capitol Police officer with a deadly weapon like Renee Good did to the ICE agent?
Why did Pelosi and congress refuse extra security prior to Jan 6th. Hhhmmmmm ….
OK Capitol Police. They werent going to let anyone in, that is why they locked and barricaded the door. Ashley Babbitt should have realized that, but she was on a mission from God so she couldnt.
So you think she got what was coming to her eh?
What knocked the cell phone from his hand?
He positioned himself over the driver front corner while holding his cell phone in his left hand. At the same time he fired his gun and moved back to fire again point-blank through the driver window.
Watch the videos (like this one), Vic, this is clear as a bell.
His frantic efforts to kill the "fucking bitch" by blowing her head off
Like Ashleigh Babbitt?
Yeah, a progressive analyst on CNN a a couple days before this happened was justified the shooting of her because she disobeyed an order to stop.
Can't make it up.
Terrorist Babbitt was advancing TOWARDS an LEO, this lady was driving AWAY from LEO's. I am sure you can see the difference.
To my points:
As noted, the victims here, yes both of them, put themselves in a position that caused their own demise. That fact that some try to argue that the Ashli shooting was somehow justified and the Renee shooting was not, displays just how hypocritical and biased some are to the realities in play.
But, some are just professional victimologists I guess …..
Babbit's shooting was by the book, one shot center mass. Law enforcement rushed to provide medical assistance at once.
Good was executed without warning by one shot through the windshield followed by two more through the open window. Ice agents refused to let a doctor offer help to the shooting victim, stating that they had their own medics, not in evidence.
Not kosher, not procedure. Not good or necessary for imagined or alleged civil disobedience on a public street; if Ross was pissed at the passenger who was out of the car, why shoot the driver?
Just prior to the shooting another ICE agent had just walked in a circle and pepper sprayed 11 or 12 individuals who were loosley surrounding an ICE vehicle, point blank in the face. They were exercising their First Amendment rights as was a very tall black man whom the same pepper spray happy agent walked up to from the side and shot him point blank in the head with a pepper ball.
That gentlemen, standing on school property was surprised but unphased.
This is the by the book fascism. ICE is out of control.
Who are you accusing of "making it up"?
(Facts are facts)
This is just the kind of biased nonsense we’ve come to expect from our friends on the left. Logical debate is not possible when hypocritical nonsense like that is present.
True and opinions are just opinions.
Was Ross' life in danger when he shot Good?
Hell no.
So you are going to publicly claim that someone standing in front of an SUV is not in danger of being seriously hurt when someone accelerates towards them?
Okay
When Ross shot Good he was already out of danger. Its actually in the videos.
I have asked you three times without reply to show evidence the car hit Ross. You keep saying it is obvious. Show us video evidence that it is obvious.
There is better, higher resolution evidence that she didnt hit him than that she did.
Ross walked away, showing no sign of injury.
using the logic a couple of the conservatives here have been using, you are admitting Good was murdered.
Murder is a very bad thing. Murder by a person sworn to uphold the law is worse.
Fascists don't care until it's their Mom, Sister, daughter etc....
So someone who shoots at a cop and misses. Is free to go?
Do you truly think that is his opinion?
Do you think I would have asked if I knew the answer?
That's your conclusion? She couldn't hit him with a fucking SUV??
Me... I conclude that she didn't ever try to hit him.
He murdered her because he could.
No, that was clearly a question. Feel like answering it or would you rather just keep trying to put words in my mouth?
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You know I don’t. You don’t either.
You just seem to prefer being intentionally obtuse
Absolutely!!
It is obvious that he does not hold that opinion.
Maybe some of us will find this interesting
(6) Molly Ploofkins on X: "Did Renee Nicole Good's hit ICE officer Johnathan Ross with her car? Take another look... https://t.co/dPkVv509mH" / X
Great find, JR. This is the best analysis I have seen thus far. Forensic video analysis is a valuable tool when dealing with split-second action.
IMO Trump supporters will give their typical nuh-uh responses and deny reality.
DHS claims that ICE agent who shot Renee Good suffered ‘internal bleeding’ after the confrontation
ICE Agent Suffered Internal Bleeding After Minneapolis Shooting
ICE agent who shot Renee Good suffered internal bleeding, officials tell ABC News
Well then, you would be wrong. I think I’ll let the person who was asked the question answer it.
The denial will continue. The intentional dishonesty and disingenuousness just gets worse every day. It’s crazy.
Ulcer?
The main tool of a corrupt administration is propaganda.
When evidence clearly shows the vehicle did not hit the officer, claims from a demonstrably corrupt, dishonest DHS should be recognized by rational minds as propaganda.
Nonsense. A rational mind would understand it doesn’t matter.
Good aimed the car in the officers direction, leaving him a split second to make a decision. I’ll go back to my original three comments in #3 above. If any one of which weren’t true, Good would likely still be alive today.
Yes, the officer acted stupidly stepping in front of the car but that doesn’t absolve Good of responsibility here. Not in the least.
That is contradicted by the evidence.
Protocol states that an officer is to step aside of a moving vehicle and to never fire upon it except when there is a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm. So you are trying to put forth the nonsense that this officer did not have time to step away from the vehicle if he felt the need to do so. Instead of stepping away (easily and quickly done), this officer chose to position himself on the front driver corner of the vehicle, draw his weapon, ready his aim, fire into the lower corner of the driver windshield, reposition himself, fire two more times into the driver's window, and all the while still manage to NOT be hit by the vehicle.
The facts as shown by clear video evidence demonstrate that this officer did not have a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm but instead decided to shoot the driver rather than follow protocol and step away (if he felt the need).
Watch:
Opinions do vary.
I don’t do X
What a surprise. A feeble excuse for refusing to consider clear evidence that shows you to be wrong.
Not a surprise in the least. X is a waste of bandwidth imo.
I am not promoting X, I gave you a link to a detailed, quality analysis of the video evidence that just happens to be on X.
You refuse to even look at the evidence with a pathetic excuse.
I didn’t say you were
And I told you I don’t do X. Feel free to post it via the many other options available to you.
Nah, the only pathetic thing here is your insistence on being so obstinate and obfuscatory.
You demonstrably refuse to look at the evidence.
This is just a link, you do not need to be an X member.
What hospital did he go to? What doctors? Uncorroborated statements by DHS are virtually worthless.
Also, this officer likely knows he broke protocol and is likely in deep shit. It is quite plausible that he would intentionally bruise himself to give him some wiggle room. Would be a rather normal thing to do in desperation.
But I do not buy this internal bleeding claim because he clearly was not hit by her vehicle.
Ultimately how can anyone believe anything from this corrupt administration? Especially since on this killing, both Trump and Noem have spun extraordinary lies and continue to do so.
On his own body cam, she is really turning that steering wheel as fast as she can before he shoots her through the windshield. He issued no warning.
Just grunted as he had to move to his right, the phone looks to the sky while he gets the first shot off then two more through the open window.then he says "fucking bitch".
The 30 year retired HHS trainer in our family is aghast, says the current agency insults all of the good officers who came before them and followed the law.
No one, especially officers hurt in the "line of duty", in the history of American Medicine has been released with internal bleeding after an exam in the field or the ER.
Then again, if this Administration thinks Good equates to Bin Laden, then a bruise could be construed as "internal bleeding".
Thats where 10 years of constant lying gets you.
But people still believe this guy and the corrupt sycophants with whom he surrounds himself.
I suspect that they don't "believe" Trump in the way you and I understand the word. When they "believe", they are taking whatever their Lord tells them and rebroadcasting it. "Truth" and "factuality" are not considerations.
True for some, but others still believe him.
Exactly! If he had internal bleeding he certainly wouldn't have been released the same day. Corroboration from the hospital or attending physician would be nice in this case, but yet silence. Seems like an easy claim to prove if DHS wants to claim it as the truth, yes?
Bluonon conspiracy theory number one.
Can't wait until someone tries to sell he had a friend run into him with an SUV.
I cannot imagine that that is actually possible. The cognitive dissonance would be debilitating.
Watching Ross walk away after the shooting, while their Lord says "the agent is recovering in hospital". Those two things cannot cohabit in a sane mind.
Our NT MAGAs say what they say because of duty to their cause, not because they believe it
Learn the difference between a plausible possibility and a conspiracy theory.
I made no claim. I offered a reasonable possibility and used language that made that clear.
Endless trollish nonsense from Trump supporters.
Hard to believe, yes.
But what would drive someone to support acts that bring themselves harm if they see through the lies?
Meanwhile his co-worker is standing right next to the driver's door. He's holding that gun with one hand, he does not have the full control of that gun. He could have easily shot the other officer. And if I were his co-worker, we would be having a serious heart to heart....outside
well that would be ridiculous
Internal bleeding was chosen as the injury because it doesnt have to be visible.
The best PARTY Pussies can say it, know it's not true, and believe it all in the same brain, because that is what their PARTY told them.
(For some reason, the lines of ELP's Carn-evil # 9 are running through my head)
Most conspiracy theories are.
Watching the other video, ICE#2, tries to calm Good down then reaches for the door handle which is locked, that triggers Good, who has a large dog whining and pacing behind her, at the same moment, her wife finds the passenger door also locked and say something to the effect of "go, get out of here".
ICE #2 is jostled by the mirror then starts to reach in to grab the steering wheel which is when the first shot comes through the windshield. It very well could have hit the steering wheel and killed him. He retreats as the car is now rolling forward.
At this point Good may be fleeing or dead or unconscious. One of the two shots pitches her over the center console.
There is a picture of this with the front of her sweater soaked in vertical streaks of blood, likely from a head wound.
Next he will be retired for back injuries due to both his previous dumb move and this event.
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Like suggesting a conspiracy theory that an officer would hurt himself because he knew he was in deep shit.
There you go again pretending or illustrating that you do not recognize the difference between a possible explanation and a conspiracy theory.
ChatGPT explanation of the difference:
Learn how to distinguish these two.
You think that offering a plausible possibility without claiming it is what happened is the same as asserting a wild, unevidenced claim as truth??
see @3.4.63 or do some research to understand the difference.
Plausible possibility: China did not contain COVID. Possibly because they did not make the breach publicly known quickly enough, thinking they could contain it without anyone knowing.
Conspiracy theory: China intentionally allowed COVID to leave its borders in hopes that it would bring down the Trump presidency.
What are the defining characteristics of conspiracy theory? Figure that out and then test that against a plausible possibility that is NOT asserted as true.
Good point. It would indeed be soul-shattering for one of our NT MAGAs to admit TO THEMSELVES that they have been used and abused by their Lord.
They persist in their MAGA fantasies because they dare not do otherwise.
Whether or not it's plausible is a matter of opinion.
I understand why some play these pointless games, but I do not understand why you participate.
I am certain you know the difference between a plausible explanation and a conspiracy theory, yet you tag onto the trollish crap @3.4.49
Now on your fine-tuned clarification, it is entirely plausible that an agent who is concerned that he might be in deep shit for unnecessary use of lethal force (which did indeed end up with killing a human being) might take actions to shore up a self-defense case, since self-defense gives the strongest exception to protocol that he needs. (And protocol in this situation is to step aside, if he felt he was in her path, and let others pursue her.)
Why would you think that ensuring he has an injury that could be used as evidence would NOT be a natural thing for him to consider in this situation?
Similarly, if he already had an injury, do you think it would be unthinkable that he would pretend that it came from getting hit by her vehicle ... in this situation?
To me, the idea that someone would create an injury or lie about the origin of an injury to help in a potential criminal lawsuit, etc. is quite plausible.
that is your strawman...nobody here has even suggested such a thing
I can distinguish them just fine. It seems you might want to learn the difference between plausible possibility and throwing shit against the wall hoping some sticks.
Seems some folks think if it has .0001 percent chance of happening it is a plausible possibility.
Not yet, but it has been suggested that it is possible he injured himself, why not with an SUV?
I'm not going to believe any bullshit like that. I saw what I saw. If someone wants to insist that he hit himself with an SUV, then I think they need a nap.
The false narrative promulgated by the reactionary propagandists about this homicide is pathetic and appalling. The right wingers who parrot the lies and fraud of the Trumpist regime are disqualified from intelligent discourse.
Yup.
About thirty years ago, waaaay before AI and smartphones, someone told me a story that blew my mind at the time. Someone they knew had a son in the military and was visiting his father. He had a laptop, and on the screen he showed his dad a bird’s eye view of his dad’s house. This is before Google earth, drones, and any easy way to come up with such an image. His dad was impressed, then his son said you think that’s cool, watch this - he opened the window and waved his hand outside. It was a live satellite feed of his location with high enough resolution to see hand movements. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is video of the circumstances surrounding this shooting that would confirm once and for all that her car did not hit Ross. An honest government would release it. Not a chance that this government does.
There was a case dismissed today from November in Chicago where every ICE report was falsified, fudged or fabricated. A US citizen, obviously Hispanic was accused of boxing in an ICE vehicle, ramming it, and promoting domestic terrorism.
The officer who shot at the woman 5 times, wounding her in the arms but missing the passenger, and his fellow agents fabricated the whole thing.
He side swiped her in a panic. Street traffic cameras proved they were not boxed in by 10 terrorist vehicles and that the victim remained in the car while the agent
She was yelling that he hit her car, he yelled "do something about it, bitch" and started shooting.
His own body camera cleared the victim, but he was transferred 1,000 miles away and did not appear in court. The DOJ states he has immunity in performing his duty.
Woman shot by Border Patrol is charged; Brighton Park residents say feds antagonized the community - Chicago Sun-Times
US prosecutors ask court to drop indictment of woman shot during deportation blitz in Chicago | Reuters
So it was his duty to sideswipe a car and then start shooting into it? Doesn't sound right to me.
ICE is made up of J6 pardoners and every J6 wannabe they can find, so yeah.
Last night on the news a reporter asked the DOJ about the 14 shooting incidents; only four have resulted in the same charges of weaponizing a vehicle and domestic
terrorism
10 cases, some over a 6 months old are in limbo
2 cases were thrown out of court and 2 the DOJ dropped the charges.
The DOJ insists that their position is unchanged - that everyone they shot was justified using the weaponized vehicle theory.
ICE officials had many meetings with their employees this week, urging them to use standard police tactics; never engage in behavior that could put them in jeopardy
like standing in front of a running car or trying to grab the steering wheel
and never, ever shoot at a driver because the resulting potential for disaster isn't worth it.
But the DOJ insists that their position is unchanged - that everyone they shot in the past was justified using the weaponized vehicle theory.
The most corrupt administration in our history.
Opinions do vary.
Now going after the SBA 8A programs for minority owned US companies because they are the oldest DEI programs in Hegseth's sorry opinion.
Great example of where the parties stand. Hegseth trying to end race based discrimination by the government, Democrats in Virginia trying to ban white businesses from some contracting and penalizing them 5% for being white in others.
Democrats still as racist as ever.
Hegseth is trying to overturn legislation passed by Congress in 1978. There is a remedy for that in Congress or at SCOTUS
not the two bit cowboy worried about lethality trying to do end runs around long established rules.
I think you misspelled 'conservatives'
In the past week new ICE recruitment commercials came out.
There's even an ICE push targeting native American Indians because they aren't white.
project 2025 requires loading up the federal agencies with as many maga nazis as possible ...