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Americans Now Living In Fear They Could Be Killed Just For Hitting ICE Agents With Cars

  

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Via:  s  •  10 months ago  •  71 comments

Americans Now Living In Fear They Could Be Killed Just For Hitting ICE Agents With Cars

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U.S. — Following the events in Minneapolis this past week, liberals across America are now living under the constant terror of being senselessly shot by the ICE agents they're hitting with cars.

Many liberals will not even go outside, fearful that America is no longer safe for people who aim their SUVs at law enforcement officers and accelerate.

"I'm petrified. This is an awful new reality we are living in, where the federal officers you're trying to mow down could shoot you at any moment," said local liberal Jennifer Small. "Every time I wave good-bye to my husband, I wonder if this is our last farewell. Is today the day when I will be needlessly killed for blocking law enforcement, refusing to comply with police orders, turning my wheels toward an officer, and pressing the gas?"

Democratic politicians have warned their electorate that they are in imminent danger from the police they are trying to maim and and murder. "Make no mistake. The people you are running over with your cars could literally kill you," said Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey. "I am disgusted that Minnesotans are at risk of violence when committing vehicular homicide, and I'm going to do everything in my power to change that."

At publishing time, Democrats had also warned that citizens could also be groundlessly arrested by the riot police they're setting on fire.


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    10 months ago

Sums up the insanity. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    10 months ago

No ICE agent was hit by any vehicle. The POS was just trigger happy. Anybody who watched the videos knows that (not satire).

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  cjcold @1.1    10 months ago
Anybody who watched the videos knows that (not satire).

There lies the rub.  MAGA has made it a point not to watch the videos so they can continue making their claims unencumbered with the truth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  cjcold @1.1    10 months ago
No ICE agent was hit by any vehicle.

"Federal officials said violent “radical rhetoric from sanctuary politicians” is to blame for vehicular attacks targeting ICE agents skyrocketing between Jan. 21, 2025, and Jan. 7, 2026, DHS data provided to The Post revealed.

Agents reported 66 attacks compared to only two during the same period in 2024, the data showed."

Exclusive | Car attacks on ICE agents spiked by more than 3,000% over past year | New York Post

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.3  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @1.1    10 months ago

You might want to ask soy boy Frey why he lied then….

Jacob Frey: “The ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.1    10 months ago

You have MAGA confused with left wing state legislators.

Maybe you can show someone on the right saying this

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    10 months ago

The insanity is pretending that lady hit anybody with her car.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.1  bugsy  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    10 months ago

Is Jacob Frey lying?

Jacob Frey: “The ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips.’

How does one walk away from a hip injury if one was not hit?

Waiting for the spin.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  bugsy @1.2.1    10 months ago
“The ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips.

I think you're missing some sarcasm here.

Do you generally close the refrigerator door using your hip with enough force to cause any injury at all?

I don't.  I can't imagine why anybody would.

That's why he said it.  He's poking fun at the claim of an injury.

And you took that as a serious statement.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.3  bugsy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.2    10 months ago

The problem is he stated ‘he walked away with an injury’. That acknowledges that he did indeed got hit. Doesn’t matter how hard he was hit or what kind of injury, it reinforces the claim for self defense and what he did was justified.

If anything else, Jacob Frey destroyed the left wing narrative.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  bugsy @1.2.3    10 months ago

He's laughing at the idea that there was any injury.

She was turning away from him.  He acted in opposition to guidelines.

He murdered her.

He acted on emotion.

And you're defending a murderer.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.5  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    10 months ago

I'll accept people claiming that are operating in good faith if they are blind and have been misled by people who've pushed nothing but lies about Ms. Good (she was just a mom  driving home! Wrong place, wrong time!)  since the incident happened.. Otherwise, they are lying at this point. 

The people claiming he  wasn't hit despite multiple videos showing he was  are the same who argued  she "was just dropping her kids off and wasn't a protester " "She had no idea they were ICE" etc etc...  We went through this with Covington.  Same thing.  Progressives  wed themselves to a narrative  and would literally deny what the full video of the incident showed them when it was released. Instead, they kept tying tied themselves into absurd knots trying to blame the kid.  The video simply didn't matter.

This sums up the mind of a crazed progressive:

Remember Michael Brown? I knew a nice liberal woman who kept posting about his "murder." When the DOJ report came out - from Obama/Holder - demonstrating that Brown attacked the cop, tried to take his gun, and was killed in the scuffle - I showed it to this woman, explained to her what happened. The next year on the anniversary of Brown's death, she was again posting about his "murder" and putting up supposed quotes from him like he was some kind of great person. With some people they are just lying to keep up their narrative. For others it's just psychologically difficult to walk back a position they've made publicly over and over. Others are just dumb. But don't expect any amount of video footage or testimony to convince many people about this latest episode. . 

 Even Dems in congress continued to claim Brown was murdered for years afterwards. Probably still do.   

To justify their hatred of ICE (the type of people who support voting for someone who wants kids of their opponents to be murdered)., they'll claim progressives have the right to obstruct law enforcement operations, ignore commands from LEOs and then drive an SUV into a LEO without any fear of repercussion because the Officer should just know this woman who he just witnessed committing crimes and refusing to follow orders would never, ever put him at risk of severe injury (the actual legal standard for office self defense ) despite accelerating her vehicle towards him on a path that hit him. They aren't making rational arguments. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.5    10 months ago

what is your evidence that the cop was hit by the car? 

the cops cell phone video cannot possibly be such evidence since he does not appear in the video. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.7  1stwarrior  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.4    10 months ago

Your emotions are overclouding the facts.  See how that happens?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.8  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.6    10 months ago

John - with as many videos that ya'll keep posting to "PROVE" nothing happened showing that something DID happen - how can you be so disagreeable?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.7    10 months ago

You have proof he was in danger or injured?

Of course you don't.

BTW, check out my article about Native Americans who are complying (but, you know, brown) being assaulted and detained.  That's what you're supporting when you defend this behavior.  Well done.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.2.10  Tacos!  replied to  bugsy @1.2.1    10 months ago
Is Jacob Frey lying?

I have no idea. He might be joking, though, or trying to minimize it. Have you thought about that?

Jacob Frey: “The ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips.’

Who gets injured closing a refrigerator door with their hip?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.11  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.6    10 months ago
since he does not appear in the video

You sure he doesnt appear in the video of the walk around documenting both the vehicle , its plate and its occupants before the Ice convoy actually gets on scene and reacts to move them ?

 observation is a wonderful thing i think , the agents reflection on the car finish during the video does show him and it shows him well enough to have a presumptive identification . who can miss his rather distinctive hair cut?

Just have to be looking for it .

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.2.12  Tacos!  replied to  bugsy @1.2.3    10 months ago
Doesn’t matter how hard he was hit or what kind of injury, it reinforces the claim for self defense and what he did was justified.

When you kill someone - especially a non-criminal, non-violent mother of three, it fucking matters. His lack of injury, and the ease with which he avoided it - even after unnecessarily parking himself in front of the vehicle - goes against the argument of self-defense.

This asshole was looking for an excuse to shoot someone, and appears to have been either setting up that excuse or daring her to go at him.

Protestors do the same thing. They put themselves in front of ICE vehicles, daring the agents to drive into them. But the agents do drive into them, and when they do, MAGA folks like you cheer for it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.13  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.12    10 months ago
non-criminal, t mother of three, it

He's just watched her commit crimes... Who are you trying to kid? Why can't Good's cheerleaders ever be honest about what happened? Days of "she wasn't protesting" she didn't know they were ICE. She didn't purposely  obstruct an operation"  Just an avalanche of BS . 

Besides the crimes she committed that day, are you sure she didn't have a criminal record?

- His lack of injury, and the ease with which he avoided it - even after unnecessarily parking himself in front of the vehicle - goes against the argument of self-defense..

Bullshit. You don't have to wait to see if the bullet hits you in order to be reasonable afraid of injury. Being a couple feet in front of an SUV driven by a criminal who is defying orders and accelerating toward him  is certainly means he was reasonable in believing he was at risk of being hurt in the split second he had to shoot before the vehicle hit him (and if it had barley missed, like the liars claim) it wouldn't matter.  There's no way he could have been certain that she would miss him in that situation. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.14  bugsy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.4    10 months ago

I find it hilarious that some that actually cheered the 2 assassination attempts of Trump, the ACTUAL assassination of Charlie Kirk and the many, many assaults on ICE and BP, are defending a woman that hit a ICE agent and calling the agent a murderer all in the name of ideology. 
The mayor admitted the woman hit him, maybe not hard, but there was contact and the agent’s phone recording showed undeniable evidence. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.15  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.10    10 months ago
Who gets injured closing a refrigerator door with their hip?

maga warriors ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.11    10 months ago
the agents reflection on the car finish during the video does show him and it shows him well enough to have a presumptive identification . who can miss his rather distinctive hair cut?

ok i'll take your word that his reflection appears.  I am not disputing that he was the person filming it.  Where do we see him get hit by the car? 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.17  sandy-2021492  replied to  bugsy @1.2.14    10 months ago
I find it hilarious that some that actually cheered the 2 assassination attempts of Trump, the ACTUAL assassination of Charlie Kirk and the many, many assaults on ICE and BP

And who here did that?  Name names.

The agent is a murderer.  He stepped in front of her car, but still managed not to be in any danger due to the fact that she was actively trying to avoid him, and shot her as she was trying to drive away.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.18  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.13    10 months ago
Being a couple feet in front of an SUV

How did he get there, again?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.16    10 months ago
Where do we see him get hit by the car? 

I don't want to answer for Mark, but didn't you notice that something knocked the cellphone out of his hand?


No worries. I'm sure the FBI is snatching up every bit of film that may have been running on security cameras and elsewhere.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.20  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.16    10 months ago
Where do we see him get hit by the car?

I dont think you really want to hear or see what conclusion i have come to from simple observation of verified videos of the incident , i will say my conclusion differs from yours and i will freely admit my bias toward LEO at all levels . That being said , an officer or agents in this case , reactions are dictated by a number of factors , 3 being , training , instinct and experience .

And that comes from my own involvement and experience with LEO duties in my lifetime , both military and civilian .

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.21  bugsy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.17    10 months ago

Bluesky is a sewer for left wing degenerates. The remarks of cheering were/are all over tje place, even some hoping the next attempt on Trump succeeds. If I name any names of those on here, i would be ticketed. Not falling for the trap, but it happened.
You can believe what you want, but video does not lie and if you think Frey was ‘joking’ you are mistaken. He accidentally slipped out the truth and wait…..his base is defending him, much like many leftists here claim we do with Trump. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.22  sandy-2021492  replied to  bugsy @1.2.21    10 months ago
if you think Frey was ‘joking’ you are mistake

Sorry you don't recognize sarcasm.  Sarcasm is a great source of mirth in my life.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.23  bugsy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.22    10 months ago

‘Sarcasm is a great source of mirth in my life’

Good for you. I’m glad you feel that way, 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.24  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.13    10 months ago
Bullshit. You don't have to wait to see if the bullet hits you in order to be reasonable afraid of injury. Being a couple feet in front of an SUV driven by a criminal who is defying orders and accelerating toward him  is certainly means he was reasonable in believing he was at risk of being hurt in the split second he had to shoot before the vehicle hit him (and if it had barley missed, like the liars claim) it wouldn't matter. 

Driven by a criminal?  Can you drum up where she has been convicted of anything?  

Good backed up, that is when the second officer was bumped by the mirror and she stopped they exchanged words of some sort and she turned the wheels away from Ross who shot her through the windshield with no verbal warning, while his fellow officer was still hands on the car. when the car starts to move forward

Good is already dead or incapacitated, and a few feet further on Ross shoots her in the face twice for good measure.

You are defending pure fascism based on confirmation bias and have been since the event was first reported.

Ross's legal jeopardy has only increased with every video and audio. His "fucking bitch" comment represents his callous indifference towards his fellow American citizen's lives and safety and stains all law enforcement professionals who wear a badge.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.25  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.24    10 months ago
Can you drum up where she has been convicted of anything?  

She committed crimes right in front of the officer. They are on video.  How is this debatable?

u are defending pure fascism based on confirmation bias and have been since the event was first reported.

You have constructed some gooblygook mishmash of irrelevancies and falsehoods to dispute what the videos show. 

Stepping on the accelerator of an suv with an LEO  in front of you creates a very dangerous situation.  That progressives are desperately trying to pretend it doesn't shows just farcical this argument has become. 

Good is already dead or incapacitated, and a few feet fu

How many minutes did it take for the car to travel  a few feet? 

Ross's legal jeopardy has only increased with every video and audio.

Imagine claiming that as progressives have changed narratives by the hour as their theories get exposed by each video? She didn't know they were ICE! She was just a passerby driving her kids off at  a daycare.   etc etc.. 

ou are defending pure fascism based on confirmation bias and have been since the ev

Good is already dead or incapacitated, and a few feet fu

How dare he swear at someone he believes just tried to kill him?  I swear the arguments being made get more and more ridiculous.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.20    10 months ago

Which video shows him being touched by the car?  As far as I know, the only one that does that is the very blurry video seemingly shot from 100ft away. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.27  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.25    10 months ago
She committed crimes right in front of the officer.

Was she convicted?  Surely she had First Amendment rights to speak and or gather? 

Maybe since it is in other news, she believed the ICE  officers commands to be illegal?

How is this debatable?

Obviously, dozens of people here saw something other than your justified execution.

I swear the arguments being made get more and more ridiculous.

Were you talking to yourself again?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.28  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.27    10 months ago
Obviously, dozens of people here saw something other than your justified execution.

Ah, yes the same dozens who spent years claiming Michal Brown was executed, that the Covington kid instigated a confrontation , Biden was sharp as a tack and the videos that demonstrated otherwise were fake and of course, that tiny unarmed  Ashley Babbitt deserved to be shot by a man across a room but a woman behind the vehicle of an SUV  who was accelerating directly at a police officer was an innocent victim.

The opinions of the people calling this a murder were set in stone the second they heard ICE shot a woman. It's cute you pretend that what they see on videos matters. 

ere you talking to yourself again?

You sound like a kindergartner imagining he'd come up with something clever. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.29  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.26    10 months ago

Im not concerned about if he was hit or not that is others bone of contention.

 Now in your own seed about this when it first happened , an eye witness that you sited yourself  stated that they saw his midriff on the bumper of the car, I take that as belly and hips on the hood possibly . but i dont think that actually matters , because it boils down to what the agents actual perception and positioning is , what he sees and reacts to .

 Now the problem i have with this eyewitness statement , i didnt see the agent on the hood , I also discredit the witness sited when they stated the car looked like it was  turning around. other observations make that scenario very unlikely .

You yourself as well as others  have claimed he shouldnt have been standing where he was , as an overwatch agent/ officer he was where he was suppose to be approximately ,now would I have taken the same positioning? in the same set up i would have been a little more out in the street  and to his right when the agent /officers were at the door doing their thing, but that also is dictated by best view available as an overwatch , so i may have chose the same spot he did , each situation is different  , ensuring the agents/officers that were making actual contacts safety in case something went sideways is an overwatch positions job , well something went sideways it appears .

 If you would like me to expand on my thoughts , just ask what i think I saw happen, and what possible conclusion i have come to. Just remember it is simply an individual opinion and a working theory . and it will be a bit long winded .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.30  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.29    10 months ago
If you would like me to expand on my thoughts , just ask what i think I saw happen, and what possible conclusion i have come to.

sure

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.31  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.29    10 months ago
m not concerned about if he was hit or not

And its not determinative when deciding his fate. This is an excerpt from a law blog by a former US Attorney who surveyed  the Supreme Court's rulings on LEO's use of deadly force.. The whole article is interesting but too long for here. In his survey, he discusses one case that addresses what the Court ruled in a case that resembles the Good cheerleader's ideal version of what happened with ICE

Now in danger of being cornered, Rickard put his car into reverse “in an attempt to escape.” As he did so, Evans and Plumhoff got out of their cruisers and … Evans, gun in hand, pounded on the passenger-side window…. Rickard’s tires started spinning, and his car “was rocking back and forth,” indicating that Rickard was using the accelerator even though his bumper was flush against a police cruiser. At that point, Plumhoff fired three shots into Rickard’s car. Rickard then “reversed in a 180 degree arc” and “maneuvered onto” another street,  forcing Ellis to “step to his right to avoid the vehicle.”   Ibid.  As Rickard continued “fleeing down” that street, ibid., Gardner and Galtelli fired 12 shots toward Rickard’s car, bringing the total number of shots fired during this incident to 15.  Rickard then lost control of the car and crashed into a building.

The Court UNANIMOUSLY, found the shooting justified despite the fact the driver totally missed the cop and the cops shot after he missed hitting the police officer. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.32  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.28    10 months ago
You sound like a kindergartner i

You on the other hand always sound like someone who got a C in his first and only law course, presumably at Notre Dame?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.33  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.30    10 months ago

Ok, just remembered you wanted to hear this .

I will start where she was supposedly just turning around , and suppose to be an "observer ".

Funny place to be , in front of a convoy of ICE , as an observer , when they could be lost turning down any of the side roads or intersections , best place for an observer would be as a tail end charlie . so being an observer doesnt jibe .

"just turning around " , most people driving doing so would use the 3 point turning method we are all taught , that is not the case i observed here . she turned into the travel lane and effectively blocked it , and didnt try to proceed through the turning procedure , so if she isnt turning , and not making the attempt to change direction , whats she doing ?"

I came to the conclusion she wasnt turning because of the agents video , by the time he pulled over in the light colored car , and got out , she had more than enough time and room to complete a turn maneuver  , she didnt , add to that by the time the agent got out and was filming , her passenger had already dismounted and began filming themselves , if they were just turning around , why get out of the car?

lets move on here , he is doing his walk around , starts on the pass side , moves to the front down the drivers side around the back and back up the pass side , what did that accomplish? it got make , model , color and plate of the car , as well as photos of both occupants .

what i noticed was her vehicle was in park, how can i know that ? if she were turning which i seem to have shot out of the water already, her break or backup lights would be on if it were in gear . they were not until she decided to flee. so either neutral or park, i am guessing park because she initially backed up when she went to leave . I have a 50/50 chance of being right on park or neutral.

 Now the question I had was , why? And i will admit , i didnt start on this theory until i saw ICE watch mentioned by people commenting about her from the community and the school and what it was , the night of the days incidents  during the vigil, that was a day or so before it was mentioned here or in the news with any real attention  .

back to the why,  their positioning as an observer sucked , so thats likely a good chance thats out and not what they were doing. so whats left? interdict , interfere, and harass, with a side of tik tok video for their local ICE watch group as a how to video . that would explain the passenger/ partner getting out of the vehicle , as the camera person to record it , and parking their vehicle in the middle of an active roadway .

 lets get back to the agent /officer video. the agent had enough time to start his recording , dismount , walk around the vehicle , likely documenting everything he needed to insure he could correctly id the car and individuals , and get back up to the front of the vehicle before the other ICE agents either got on scene or were dismounted themselves to start the contact.

I will say, the agents that responded from that lead pickup, were aggressive , likely more aggressive than was expected which undoubtedly changed the tempo and reactions of the 2 ladies . Which is where things "went sideways" as i coined .

Like i said , it is my opinion and a working theory, there are only 2 people that can confirm or refute what i think , one is dead , the other left a big tell at the scene when she claimed "it was all her fault ", and that was  said unsolicited .

So , IF i am right , i could still be wrong, instead of a how to video of opportunity for their and others use  , it turned into a video of what NOT to do.

I will say i think what i have stated in theory , makes much more plausible sense than anything i have read from either side of this conversation  on any of the articles i have read here .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.34  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.33    10 months ago
Ok, just remembered you wanted to hear this .

I think I've heard it all in 25 years on internet forums. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.35  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.33    10 months ago

If I understand you, your theory is that she and her wife were intending to continue observing the ICE agents. I completely agree, but so what? 

I think she was parked there because she wanted to let the ICE cars go by her and then she would start following them again. 

As far as her wife being out of the car, we dont have any video of why she got out, it seems she got out to film Ross. That doesnt sound unreasonable considering that the two women believe that ICE commits objectionable conduct. Thats kind of why there are citizens blowing whistles and taking videos. 

I dont particularly disagree with your theory of why the womans car was there, I just wonder what that has to do with the shooting. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.36  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.35    10 months ago
I just wonder what that has to do with the shooting.

John , in my view , it is what led up to the actual shooting , and if im right about it being a spur of the moment potentially viral social media filming I would have to say they chickened out when they saw the level of aggression they faced and basically panicked, and panicked people have 2 options they see to pick from , flee , or fight I dont think they were in a position to fight  .  which brings us to the actual shooting .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.36    10 months ago

Well, I think the cop is the one who panicked, so we'll have to disagree about that. 

I think Good didnt want to arrested and spend all day or or more in an ICE jail for what she would have considered a bullshit reason. Besides that she may have been afraid they would physically injure her. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.38  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.37    10 months ago

yes i think we can agree on disagreeing on the panic aspect.

I dont know or can think of anyone who wants to be arrested and taken into custody, and for the record most people who are , usually think its a bullshit reason they are , prisons are full of innocent people according to themselves  .

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.2.39  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.7    10 months ago

That's not cool, First. Sandy was talking about her opinion, and you made it personal.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.2.40  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.19    10 months ago
didn't you notice that something knocked the cellphone out of his hand?

Do you ever watch sports? Basketball? Soccer? Do you know what a “flop” is?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.41  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.26    10 months ago

‘As far as I know, the only one that does that is the very blurry video seemingly shot from 100ft away’

So you admit he was hit by the SUV. 
Glad to see you are coming around to the truth.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.42  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @1.2.41    10 months ago
So you admit he was hit by the SUV.

I think there is a chance the car brushed up against him.

When he shot her he was already out of the way.  Its actually quite clear on the videos. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2  Gazoo    10 months ago

Are you sure this is satire? Lol

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gazoo @2    10 months ago

I think this explain alot: 

Here is one of the most powerful democrats in the country:

"This 37 year old woman drops her kid off at school. Not involved in protest activity or anything. Seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time." - Adam Schiff, 48 hours ago

Here are the people they are protecting...

Sriudorn Phaivan, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of strong-arm sodomy of a boy & strong-arm sodomy of a girl with a deportation order since 2018.\
Tou Vang, a Laotian illegal alien c onvicted of sexual assault and sodomy of a girl under age 13 and procuring a child for prostitution with a deportation order since 2006.
Chong Vue, a Laotian illegal alien c onvicted of the strong-arm rape of a 12-year-old girl and kidnapping a child with intent to sexually assault her,  with a deportation order since 2004,
Ge Yang, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of strong-arm rape, aggravated assault with a weapon, and strangulation  with a deportation order since 2012.
Pao Choua Xiong, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of rape and child fondling  with a deportation order since 2003.
Kou Lor, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of rape, rape with a weapon, and sexual assault with a deportation order since 1996.
Hernan Cortes-Valencia, Mexican illegal alien convicted of sexual assault of a child and DUI with a deportation order since 2016.
Abdirashid Adosh Elmi, a Somalian illegal alien convicted of homicide.
Gilberto Salguero Landaverde, a Salvadoran illegal alien convicted of three counts of homicide with a deportation order since June 2025.
Gabriel Figueroa Gama, a Mexican illegal convicted of homicide who has been previously deported in 2002.
Galuak Michael Rotgai, a Sudanese illegal alien convicted of homicide.
Thai Lor, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of two counts of homicide with a deportation order since 2009.
Mariana Sia Kanu, an illegal alien from Sierra Leone convicted of two counts of homicide  with a deportation order since 2022.
Aldrin Guerrero Munoz, a Mexican illegal alien convicted of homicide with a deportation order since 2015.
Abdirashid Mohamed Ahmed, a Somalian illegal alien convicted of manslaughter with a deportation order since 2022.
Mongong Dual Maniang Deng, a Sudanese illegal alien convicted of attempt to commit homicide , weapon possession, and DUI.
Aler Gomez Lucas, a Guatemalan illegal alien convicted of negligent homicide with a vehicle and DUI with a deportation order since 2022.
Shwe Htoo, a Burmese illegal alien convicted of negligent homicide.
ICE says all of these criminal aliens were roaming freely in the sanctuary state of Minnesota prior to arrest, and that these are the type of people that politicians and activists are referring to as their “neighbors” as they attempt to interfere with ICE.
 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
2.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    10 months ago

It’s odd we don’t hear any outrage from the left about the blatant lie schiff told.just kidding, it’s not odd at all.

“Here are the people they are protecting...”

It makes absolutely no sense. I’ve said it for quite a while now, if you’re an illegal, a criminal, or a sexually confused person, dems favor you over law abiding citizens. That’s how it appears.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.1    10 months ago
over law abiding citizens

A man murders a woman and you have the nerve to about "law abiding."

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
2.1.3  Gazoo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.2    10 months ago

So you think the LEO went into this situation with the intent of killing this woman? Because that’s what murder is. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.3    10 months ago

Yep. Opportunistically.

But you gotta try to make it look legal, so I think he was looking for even the smallest excuse. I’ve known a lot of people in law enforcement and many of them openly fantasize about shooting someone. They look for reasons to shoot instead of ways to avoid it.

Is that all cops? No. But way too many of them.

He was in no danger beyond any that he created for himself. And by the way, you don’t get to claim self-defense when you contribute to creating the danger.

There was no need to position himself where he was, and even if there were, he easily escaped being hit. Killing that woman did nothing to make him - or anyone else - safer.

with the intent of killing this woman? Because that’s what murder is. 

You can get to murder a few different ways. He may have intended to kill her (1st degree), or he may have just wanted to shoot at her and death was the result. That is also murder, but generally 2nd degree. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
2.1.5  Gazoo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.4    10 months ago

I have no idea what his intent was, or what he was thinking. Nobody does except him. It will be very difficult for a court to find him guilty of murder. Let the courts sort it out.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.5    10 months ago

That sounds like wishful thinking. A murder conviction does not require the jury to employ arcane mind reading magic. Intent is inferred from actions and words. For example, calling her a “fucking bitch” right after shooting her will not look good for him.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
2.1.7  Gazoo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.6    10 months ago

“Intent is inferred from actions and words”

You’re right. I didn’t think about that. Still, let it go to court and be decided there. If he’s found guilty, let him pay the piper, if not hopefully he can live a peaceful life.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Participates
2.1.8  1stwarrior  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.2    10 months ago

They caught a murderer???  What type car was he/she driving????

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.8    10 months ago

Don't miss the point that was just made.

As a Native American you are expected to not think for yourself and vote for democrats.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
2.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    10 months ago
vote for democrats

Quotes?  Putting words in my mouth is dishonest, Vic.  We've been over this before.

As far as "expected to not think for yourself," reflexively defending the regime that is persecuting one's own people just reeks of independent thought.  For those who may have missed it, that was sarcasm.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.10    10 months ago

You get the last word!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.12  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    10 months ago

And for each one of those bad guys, opportunities will be seized on to ensnare hundreds of perfectly normal law abiding people harming nobody, with job skills and drive, paying into your social security system but unable to benefit from it.  That is the reality of this horror show.  To go to such extremes and work against your own financial best interests just shows that its core is inherently racist.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.13  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.12    10 months ago
opportunities will be seized on to ensnare hundreds of perfectly normal law abiding people harming nobody, with job skills and drive, paying into your social security system but unable to benefit from it.

You want to try and argue that less one percent of people being deported are criminals?   That's delusional. 

But you oppose immigration enforcement. Got it. 

To go to such extremes and work against your own financial best interests just shows that its core is inherently racist.

Lol. Start with the cries of racism when the facts don't work. Such a tired game.

But kudos on making that argument in the same week when billions of dollars of immigration related fraud is exposed in a single state. By all means, explain how its  in  my "financial best interests" to pay taxes and borrow money from future generation to pay for fraud that Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to protect and quash investigations into. 

I'm curious though. I'm not a progressive who worships money above all else, so I'd like to  know how many Americans you think it's acceptable to die to justify some theoretical marginal gain in your finances. Is increasing your net worth $10,000 worth these two kids dying?  I'd prefer thousands of Americans to be alive and not victims of violent crime. 

But that's me.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
2.1.14  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    10 months ago

You can run on and on like until it puts everyone to sleep but the reality of the situation is obvious.  MAGA has this mantra that what comes through your ears is more reliable that what is front of your eyes.  That’s not going to work.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
3  squiggy    10 months ago

The only sensible response now, is to just burn and loot their own city.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

I myself am concerned that I might be shot after, blocking vehicles all day, interfering with law enforcement, disregarding a lawful order to get out of my vehicle and gunning my vehicle in the direction of an ICE agent.

What happened to my rights to resist Trump and federal immigration law?

Especially after I left the country after Trump won, lived in Canada for two years, then moved to Minnesota and joined an opposition group and helped to protest ICE law enforcement.

What is a loving mother to do?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    10 months ago
interfering with law enforcement, disregarding a lawful order

I'm happy you finally agree that those J6 protesters that entered the capitol should have received the same type of justice as the ICE murder victim did ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
5  Hal A. Lujah    10 months ago

I guess the thinking is that if you keep repeating the lie ad nauseum that this cowardly ICE agent was hit by her car then eventually it will come true.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    10 months ago

it worked for their last demigod 90 years ago ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6  TᵢG    10 months ago

Of course, make a sick joke out of the killing of a citizen.

 
 

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