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Illegal immigrants from Africa, India and China are voting in US elections — here’s how they’re doing it

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  vic-eldred  •  8 months ago  •  70 comments

By:   Story by Chadwick Moore

Illegal immigrants from Africa, India and China are voting in US elections — here’s how they’re doing it
Pennsylvania, a crucial swing state, stands out for disastrous alien voter registration, said Adams. The Keystone State has admitted a glitch in its “motor voter” program, which registers voters at the DMV, inadvertently has allowed approximately 100,000 non-citizens to register to vote, though some state officials dispute this number. Another Pennsylvania voter, Indian citizen Kaushalkumar Patel, 47, of Allentown will stand trial this month for allegedly voting illegally in the 2020...

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A Mauritanian illegal immigrant marked for deportation since 2002 has continued to live in the US and is a registered Democrat who voted in every election since 2008, authorities claim.

Mahady Sacko, 50, who goes by the nickname “Sacko Scorpion,” was busted last week in Philadelphia for allegedly falsely claiming citizenship to cast a 2024 ballot.

He was picked up in a joint operation between Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the FBI who charge he “falsely represented that he was a US citizen in order to vote and register to vote” in the last preidential election, according to a press release.

Sacko denied the charges when called by The Post, claiming: “Everything is a lie! They are lying about me!” before hanging up. He has yet to enter a plea in his case.

As the issue of election security ramps up in Congress with the SAVE act, Sacko’s arrest was one of nearly a dozen uncovered by The Post of non-citizens allegedly voting in US elections, sometimes for decades, with many remaining listed as active voters on state rolls, even after their convictions.

“The reality is aliens are voting in American elections,” J. Christian Adams, president of Public Interest Legal Foundation, who has spent decades working on election integrity told The Post, noting no one is quite sure how widespread the problem is.

There were about 14 million people who are in the country legally but who are not citizens in 2023, according to the  Pew Research center . While they may have work permits and visas, they can’t vote.

“It’s way worse than the left says, but it’s way better than some others say,” he added.

Pennsylvania , a crucial swing state, stands out for disastrous alien voter registration, said Adams. The Keystone State has admitted a glitch in its “motor voter” program, which registers voters at the DMV, inadvertently has allowed  approximately 100,000  non-citizens to register to vote, though some state officials dispute this number.

Another Pennsylvania voter, Indian citizen  Kaushalkumar Patel , 47, of Allentown will stand trial this month for allegedly voting illegally in the 2020 election in Penn.

Patel’s lawyer Philip Steinberg previously said he’s waiting for more information from the goverment laying out their case against Patel, saying in a statement: “Mr. Patel has lived a law abiding life in the United States for over 20 years. He works, pays his taxes and is an active participant in his community. He is also the proud father of two young daughters.”

On March 6,  Canadian Denis Bouchard , 70, pleaded guilty to two counts of making false claims he was a US citizen to vote in 2022 and 2024 elections in North Carolina and faces ten years in prison.

An investigation by The Post revealed a man by the same name and age had voted in every election since 2004 and was not registered with a political party. That man was removed from voter rolls in that state after Bouchard’s conviction.

In one shocking case, Chinese national Haoxiang Gao, 19, who was a student at the University of Michigan, was charged on June 3 last year with illegally voting in the 2024 election, but  fled to China  before he could face justice.

At arraignment Gao surrendered his Chinese passport to the judge but then boarded a flight from Detroit to Shanghai using another passport with a different serial number, according to the FBI. Gao remains wanted in the US, which does not have an extradition treaty with China.

The Post found Gao is still registered as an active voter in Michigan.

An October 2025  sweep in Arkansas  picked up Cecilia Casellanos, 59, a Cuban national and registered Democrat who had a pending order of removal by immigration enforcement dating back to 1999. Casellanos also had three prior felony convictions in New York for Grand Larceny and Attempted Forgery, according to the Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.

She pleaded guilty to perjury and voter fraud on Jan. 13.

In October, Arkansas also nabbed Zlata Risley, 50, of Kazakhstan who had registered as a Republican; and Nigerian citizen Chi Baum, 59, of no party affiliation. Both were lawful US residents, but not citizens, who illegally voted in the 2024 election, officials said.Risley pleaded guilty and recieved probation. Details of Baum’s case were not immediately available.


In Florida, two  Ukrainian  women — mom Svitlana Demydenko, 53, and daughter Yelyzaveta Demydenko, 22, both registered Democrats — cast ballots in the 2024 general election after coming to the US in 2021 on nonimmigrant visas, according to the US Attorney’s Office Southern District of Florida.

They were both arrested last April, they have pleaded not guilty and their case is set for trial later in 2026.

Adams said the main problem is aliens being invited to register to vote, usually through the mail, at the DMV or via third-party groups.

“At times, it’s an organic process of aliens getting sucked in unwittingly. Maybe they’d been whipping down Modelos [beers] at a festival and they’re doing some guy a favor who is in their face with a clipboard. Or, they’re at the DMV and get these pop-up windows asking them to register. They think, ‘I must be allowed.’ ”

He added: “I wish it were a conspiracy plot because it would be easier to bust. This is systemic failure.”

The Post found illegal voters span the political spectrum. In Upstate New York, Iraqi national Akeel Abdul Jamiel, 45, had registered with the Conservative Party, had written pro-Trump screeds and in 2019 tried to sue then-New York City mayor Bill de Blasio over the negative impact of illegal immigration on his livelihood, claiming the US was “under invasion.”


Jamiel was charged last April with illegally voting in the 2020 election. He has yet to enter a plea and could face a year in prison and up to $100,000 fine if convicted.

Jamaican national Jacqueline Dianne Wallace, 52, who had been in the US illegally for over 15 years, registered online from a community college computer network as a Republican to vote in Florida and cast a ballot in the 2024 presidential primary, officials claim. Her case is currently pending.

If convicted, she faces five years in the clink .  Attorneys appointed to represent her did not respond to The Post’s request for comment.

The Republican-backed  SAVE America Act  would mandate proof of US citizenship — such as a passport, birth certificate, or enhanced driver’s license — to register to vote in federal elections, but it’s currently languishing in the Senate, lacking the 60 votes required to overcome a Democrat filibuster.


Texas Rep. Chip Roy, who introduced the SAVE Act to the House, where it passed, said he agrees with President Trump that passing this bill should be Republicans’ “top priority.”

“Americans want  voter ID  and the guarantee that only citizens are voting in our elections. The House has done its job, now it’s time for the Senate to show up to work,” he told The Post.

“Senators should stand up and defend their positions. If Democrats want to block protections ensuring only citizens vote, they should have to explain that to the American people,” he added.

Democrats have called non-citizen voting a “myth” and blasted the SAVE Act as “extremist white supremacist agenda” and “Jim Crow 2.0.”

President Trump has escalated pressure on the Senate by threatening he’ll refuse to sign any other bills until it’s passed.

Utah Senator  Mike Lee , who co-sponsored the SAVE Act in the Senate, told The Post he wants voters to keep the pressure up to get the bill passed.

“Every few weeks, we learn that, ‘the thing that never happens,’ has happened again,” he said referring to illegal voting. “In tight down-ballot races, even hundreds of illegal votes can swing an election, and every illegal vote cast is an attack on a legitimate vote cast by a real citizen.”


Ilustrating that point, On Friday, after a recount, Boca Raton, Florida’s new mayor  won by just five votes , flipping the mayorship to Democrat in a Republican stronghold.

“It may surprise many Americans to learn that the Supreme Court — wrongly, in my view — has interpreted the law to forbid states from checking citizenship for voter registration. The SAVE America Act would reverse this situation,” Lee added, speaking about a 2013 decision that required only a sworn affirmation of citizenship for voter registration.

Sen. Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) announced the Senate will debate the SAVE Act next week but stated they lack the votes to pass it.

Polling shows the SAVE Act  is extremely popular  with voters, getting over 70% support, with even half of Democrats in favor.



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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

And now boys and girls, you learned two things:

1) You now know why democrats have fought tooth & nail against voter ID

and

2) You now know why the Biden administration let millions into the country.


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TᵢG
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1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago

Article Reasons:  If an illegal manages to cast a fraudulent vote, that means 10s of millions of them have.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    8 months ago
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    newspaper18.png According to charging documents filed by local officials
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    justice20b.png According to charging documents filed by local officials
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    twitter20j.png facebook20j.png instagram20j.png 1.1 m total followers across social media accounts" > 1.1 m Lauded by Trump
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    According to an investigative report by The New Yorker
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    calendar2.png 11/16/21
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    Voted twice using two different but similar sounding names in the 2020 election   external-link16b.png
    newspaper18.png According to charging documents filed by local police
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    According to charging documents filed by local officials
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    newspaper18.png According to charging documents filed by local police
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    newspaper18.png According to charging documents filed by state officials
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    newspaper18.png According to charging documents filed by local officials
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I posted a comment elsewhere that there were 306 convictions of voter fraud in the 2016 and 2020 elections, a 0.0000001 rate. So should we spend all of our time and money on trying to achieve purity or concentrate on feeding our own citizens?
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    8 months ago

It means we should take some measure to prevent it other than taking someone's word that they are a citizen.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.1    8 months ago
I posted a comment elsewhere that there were 306 convictions of voter fraud in the 2016 and 2020 elections, a 0.0000001 rate.

So, you say only 306 people committed voter fraud. We caught them all.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    8 months ago
So, you say only 306 people committed voter fraud. We caught them all.

No, I said there were 306 CONVICTIONS and the rate was meaningless (even though they leaned more to the right than the left.)

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    8 months ago
It means we should take some measure to prevent it other than taking someone's word that they are a citizen.

This is a non-problem, Vic.   It is like making a big deal about those rare few who refuse to return a borrowed library book.

I would agree with you wholeheartedly if this were not such a rare occurrence and if we did not do anything when the perp is caught.

Instead of worrying about such a tiny amount of infractions, how about recognizing the most recent mess that Trump has gotten us into?   This is a big damn deal and it affects not only the US economy but that of much of the world.

In case you do not know, I am speaking about the fact that Trump has unilaterally and illegally gone to war with Iran.   This is not just an incursion (or 'excursion' as the dumb-fuck states);  it has turned into a de facto war, and it is likely to escalate.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    8 months ago
This is a non-problem, Vic. 

Good to know. However, the Save Act happens to be one of the most popular pieces of legislation to come before congress. Even democrat & Independent voters overwhelmingly favor it. Yet democrats in congress are going to vote against something that a solid majority of voters favor. The question, despite all the lame excuses remains why?


Instead of worrying about such a tiny amount of infractions, how about recognizing the most recent mess that Trump has gotten us into?   This is a big damn deal and it affects not only the US economy but that of much of the world.

That wasn't the focus of this article, but I will get into that later with today's Vic Eldred cast. I'm going to assess where we are in the war and the big decision that our President currently faces in that brief campaign.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    8 months ago

Trump's motivation:

But Mr. Trump has  ratcheted up the pressure  on Republicans to push ahead anyway, vowing that he would refuse to sign any other legislation until the bill was sent to his desk. He has called the measure his “No. 1 priority,” saying it would “guarantee the midterms” for his party .

The linked Times article explains why in more detail.   And you are surprised the Ds are not supporting it??

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.7    8 months ago
And you are surprised the Ds are not supporting it??

The WHY is self evident.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    8 months ago

Of course, Trump wants to tighten the requirements for voting under the excuse of solving a non-problem.   He thinks this will dissuade enough D voters to allow him to win the midterms.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.10  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.9    8 months ago
He thinks this will dissuade enough D voters to allow him to win the midterms.

Explain to me how you "know" what Trump is thinking.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  goose is back @1.1.10    8 months ago

Did you not read the quote?   

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Participates
1.1.12  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.11    8 months ago
Did you not read the quote? 

Did you,  "He thinks this will"!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  goose is back @1.1.12    8 months ago

Gain an understanding of context.   This is the quote.   Read what Trump stated:

But Mr. Trump has  ratcheted up the pressure  on Republicans to push ahead anyway, vowing that he would refuse to sign any other legislation until the bill was sent to his desk. He has called the measure his “No. 1 priority,” saying it would “guarantee the midterms” for his party .
 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.14  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.13    8 months ago
Gain an understanding of context.

Gee thanks, I must have totally missed that the first time I read it.  One problem I don't see where Trump said " this will dissuade enough D voters to allow him to win the midterms" where is that?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  goose is back @1.1.14    8 months ago

Okay, you are just trolling.  I am done catering to you.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.16  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.15    8 months ago
Okay, you are just trolling.

I am not trolling anyone, you misquote yourself. If you wanted to make something up it should have been, "Trump wants to stop illegal immigrants from voting". Dissuading Democrat voters makes no sense.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.17  TᵢG  replied to  goose is back @1.1.16    8 months ago

Then you are confused.   Either way, I am done catering to your nonsense.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
1.1.18  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.15    8 months ago
Okay, you are just trolling.  I am done catering to you.

No, you've once again taken the square root of 4, declared it to be -2, refused to accept that any other possibilities could ever exist, immediately insulted people who dare suggest the existence of another answer, especially since that answer was more obvious.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.19  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.17    8 months ago
Then you are confused[✘]

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.18    8 months ago

Sure, Jack, ignore the obvious to join in on the trolling.

Pretending that you cannot see that imposing restrictions can help achieve Trump’s stated objective by dissuading voters is pathetic.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
1.1.21  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.20    8 months ago
Sure, Jack, ignore the obvious to join in on the trolling.

*eyeroll*

I'm not sure how to explain this to you in a way you'll understand.... "trolling" is not a slang term for "disagrees with TiG".   Not everybody who disagrees with you is trolling.  Some people read one of your posts and genuinely think it's full of shit.  They're not always wrong.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.21    8 months ago

Trolling is when someone posts (typically dishonest) comments for the purpose of being obnoxious.

An example is pretending not to understand that when Trump says in this excerpt:

But Mr. Trump has  ratcheted up the pressure  on Republicans to push ahead anyway, vowing that he would refuse to sign any other legislation until the bill was sent to his desk. He has called the measure his “ No. 1 priority ,” saying it would “guarantee the midterms” for his party .

... that this bill ( which imposes restrictions that will dissuade voters; typically D statistically ) is his #1 priority because it would "guarantee the midterms" for his party it is a pretty safe bet that he thinks that the bill will result in a lower opposition voter turnout .

For something this obvious, pretending that it is jumping to a conclusion to note that Trump thinks this bill will dissuade opposition turnout is trolling.

If you were serious, you would have made a genuine counterargument instead of engaging in obnoxious personal allegations based on abstract analogies.

To wit, you are trolling.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

Of course they are and democrats are fighting tooth and nail to ensure it,

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    8 months ago

How else are they going to win elections?

 
 
 
shona1
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2.1.1  shona1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    8 months ago

Certainly sounds like you mob need to desperately overhaul your whole Electrol system..

No wonder it seems like every election it turns into one heck of a mess and drama...

How on earth non citizens get to vote is rather astounding and seeing it's not compulsory, no wonder elections and results get stacked..

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  shona1 @2.1.1    8 months ago

I'm hoping that our friends down under will learn from our predicament.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.1.3  shona1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    8 months ago

Morning Vic...ahh nahh in this case there is nothing to learn from your Electrol system.. thanks but no thanks..

The US system has so much drama and upheaval and seems to drag on for yonks..

I can only sympathize when your elections roll around and so happy ours run smoothly and quickly..which is even better.

Done and dusted in approximately 6 weeks..and thank heavens for media blackouts 4 days before the actual date..no adds on tv, radio or newspaper..bliss...

If there is a change of government no one even blinks an eye and everyone just gets on with living the next day. Just the way we like it..

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  shona1 @2.1.3    8 months ago
If there is a change of government no one even blinks an eye and everyone just gets on with living the next day.

We have those here too.  They are the ones saying, "we'll vote for you, just make it all go away."

But of course, you can't make it go away. BTW your current government is nothing to be proud of.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
2.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    8 months ago
BTW your current government is nothing to be proud of.

Neither is ours, but that's only because some loser dipshits elected a felon rapist to run it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.5    8 months ago
but that's only because some loser dipshits elected a felon rapist to run it.

It's only 3 more years.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.1.7  shona1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    8 months ago

Never said I was...have little time for Albo or politicians full stop but we look at it this way..

He is streets ahead of what you have got..😁

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  shona1 @2.1.7    8 months ago

He couldn't make a pimple on Trump's ass.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
2.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.8    8 months ago
He couldn't make a pimple on Trump's ass.

That's a big plus for Australia, so I guess shona1 wins this round. Sure, there are some who would love to caress Trump's ass pimples, many candidates even here on NT seem to be vying for the job, but that's not a job any foreign leaders would want so you guys have fun. Perhaps they can give the pimple a kiss while their head is on the way in.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.9    8 months ago

Another good day you think?  Two new heroes for ya: little Albo and Joe Kent.

Have a good one.

 
 
 
shona1
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2.1.11  shona1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.8    8 months ago

Funny..Trump seems to know alot about arses these days...

You do realise ass is a donkey or a stupid person, arse is your behind?

Sending mixed signals there Vic...or maybe it's your accent..😁

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    8 months ago
Another good day you think?

I think every day, even the not so good ones. And I'm not in market for any heroes, though our current oval office occupant makes just about anyone, other than his fellow criminal despots, look like a Saint.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    8 months ago
Of course they are

And the evidence? Still waiting, it's been several years now and there still hasn't been any widespread voter fraud that would have changed even a single election outcome. And yet delusional poorly educated morons continue to claim something exists when they've not been able to provide even a smidgen of evidence that would support their claim of widespread voter fraud. Is it their brain that is rotten you think? Or maybe they're just so deeply invested in the lie that they're simply unwilling to accept facts. Perhaps trying to accept the facts would just melt what little of their brains they have left so they're kept away from facts and logic by rightwing media.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    8 months ago

The more this is looked into the more it's found that illegals are voting despite the left and Democrats claims.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    8 months ago

Supposedly people who enter the country illegally are going to respect election laws.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    8 months ago

Somehow the Democrats and left think they will.  Don't even want to see the mental gymnastics they used to come to that concusion. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    8 months ago
Don't even want to see the mental gymnastics they used to come to that concusion. 

I think Nancy Pelosi already answered that when she insulted Mexicans by saying "We need them to pick the crops down here,'” as if it were what all Mexicans do.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    8 months ago

There is that.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4  Buzz of the Orient    8 months ago

I, a Canadian citizen, would like to state that although I have never voted in an American election or even tried to, I would have voted for either Ann Richards of Texas or Liz Cheney to be PotUS if I could have legally voted.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    8 months ago

When was the last time you voted in a Canadian election?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    8 months ago

The most recent Canadian Federal Election.  I am no longer permitted to vote in Provincial or Municipal elections.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
5  Dismayed Patriot    8 months ago

LOL. Just more dishonest NY Post garbage. They parade out the tiny handful of fraudulent voters (of which there were MANY on the right voting multiple times for shit face Donald). No where in this entire seed does it prove any widespread voter fraud. It makes gullible dumb fuck bigots believe there is widespread voter fraud by throwing out numbers like the possible "100,000 non-citizens to register to vote" through the DMV motor voter programs but doesn't prove a SINGLE ONE cast a fraudulent ballot. Are you fuckers really this stupid? Just because some bigot tosses out a number like "14 million illegals!" you automatically think they must be voting? Oh, that's right, I forgot about the rightwing "gut" that just "knows" things that aren't true because it feels "truthy" to them and they'd like to believe that's why they lose elections to Democrats. Fucking stupid morons.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5    8 months ago
They parade out the tiny handful of fraudulent voters

You mean the few who got caught?


 but doesn't prove a SINGLE ONE cast a fraudulent ballot. 

So, when is the state of California going to let us see its voter rolls?


they'd like to believe that's why they lose elections to Democrats.

Then tell us how a state like MA which went about 40% for Trump doesn't have a single Republican Rep or Senator?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    8 months ago
Then tell us how a state like MA which went about 40% for Trump doesn't have a single Republican Rep or Senator?

Maybe one day it will occur to you that that sentence doesn't make any sense.

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.2  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    8 months ago
You mean the few who got caught?

According to your logic a couple of straight white men got caught beating their wives - ALL straight white men are wife beaters? 

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    8 months ago

There are 12 all-Republican delegations (Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, Wyoming) and 7 all-Democratic delegations (Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Rhode Island.

I guess the 12 all-Republican delegations were all honestly elected and the 7 all-Democratic delegations were dishonestly elected ... @!@

       "Then tell us how a state like MA which went about 40% for Trump doesn't have a single              Republican Rep or Senator?"

Iowa went 42.5% for Harris ... next.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    8 months ago

copilot

🗳️ Why Massachusetts Has No Republican Members of Congress

1. Republican voters are spread thinly across the state

  • According to Massachusetts officials involved in drawing the maps, GOP voters are evenly distributed across the state rather than concentrated in any one region.

  • Because of this, even if Republicans make up ~40% statewide, they rarely form a plurality in any single congressional district.

  • One mapmaker said it’s “not possible to draw a district in Massachusetts that would favor a Republican” because of this distribution.

This is the opposite of states where one party’s voters are clustered, making it easier to create “safe” districts for both sides.

2. Democrats dominate urban and suburban areas

Massachusetts’ population is heavily concentrated in:

  • Greater Boston

  • Worcester

  • Springfield

  • Coastal suburbs

These areas vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Even if Republicans perform decently statewide, they tend to lose every district because each district contains at least one large Democratic-leaning population center.

3. Districts are drawn in a way that favors Democrats—but not necessarily through illegal gerrymandering

  • Critics (including Donald Trump) have claimed Massachusetts is gerrymandered because Democrats hold 100% of House seats despite Republicans getting ~40% of the vote.

  • However, independent analyses and the legislators who drew the maps argue that the outcome is mostly due to natural political geography, not intentional partisan manipulation.

  • Massachusetts districts are relatively compact compared to heavily gerrymandered states, and the state lost a seat after the 2010 Census, making competition even harder.

4. Republicans struggle in down-ballot races even when they do well statewide

Massachusetts voters sometimes support:

  • Republican governors (e.g., Charlie Baker, one of the most popular governors in the country)

  • Republican presidential candidates at ~35–40%

But congressional races are different:

  • They are more partisan.

  • They depend heavily on local party organization.

  • Massachusetts’ GOP is relatively weak at the district level.

So even if a Republican can win a statewide office, they may not have enough concentrated support to win a single House district.

5. The rise of single-party delegations is a national trend

Massachusetts isn’t unique. A growing number of states now send all Democrats or all Republicans to Congress, even when the statewide vote is more mixed. This trend has been increasing since the 1960s.

📌 Bottom Line

Massachusetts Republicans are numerous enough to influence statewide results but not concentrated enough to win a congressional district. Combined with Democratic-leaning population centers and modern partisan sorting, this produces a 100% Democratic delegation even when Republicans get a substantial share of the vote.

If you want, I can also compare this to:

  • Why Texas Democrats get ~40% but only a few seats

  • How proportional representation would change outcomes

  • What a hypothetical “Republican-friendly” map of MA would look like (and whether it’s mathematically possible)

Just tell me which angle you want to explore.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.5  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    8 months ago
Just tell me which angle you want to explore.

The obtuse one would be fitting.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.6  bugsy  replied to  evilone @5.1.2    8 months ago

Are there no such things as minority men beating their wives? You can take your post, change ‘white men’ to ‘men of any race’ and the post would actually still be correct

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @5.1.6    8 months ago

Now that is one major missing of the point.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    8 months ago

The answer is # 3.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @5.1.3    8 months ago

The difference is that those states are competitive in national elections.

Before a vote is counted CA, ILL, NY, NJ and MA are painted blue.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.7    8 months ago
Now that is one major missing of the point.

whoosh-jpg.2419358

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5.1.11  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.9    8 months ago

Now you are just struggling to crossbreed apples with oranges.

In 2022 NY republicans kept democrats from controlling the house ... copious amounts of Prevagen is in order.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
6  Hallux    8 months ago

If the voter rolls are so jiggered how is it Republicans control everything on the federal level?

Next up, How the Left Destroyed My Comfort Zone and other endless peeves.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @6    8 months ago
voter rolls are so jiggered how

Because they are controlled by states..

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1    8 months ago
Because they are controlled by states..

by representatives elected in those supposedly fraudulent elections...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hallux @6    8 months ago
If the voter rolls are so jiggered how is it Republicans control everything on the federal level?

Let's face it, when Republicans lose an election, they scream "Fraud!" and even when they win an election they still scream "Fraud! But we beat them anyway!".

Maybe conservatives are just really bad at math, where they imagine the handful of fraudulent votes must equal millions of illegal immigrants voting and they don't fucking realize how easy it would be to expose MILLIONS of fraudulent votes. It's like a moron miner who finds a speck of gold dust and convinces himself there must be a gold mine here and spends the rest of his life digging and never finding anything but still tells people "Well I know it's here! I'll find it someday! And it'll be the richest vein of gold ever found! Just you wait!". Fucking idiots.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    8 months ago
Maybe conservatives are just really bad at math

Just counting is a problem for them ... Arizona, Georgia to name a few along with 70+ failed court cases.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7  TᵢG    8 months ago

ChatGPT fact-check summary:

Bottom Line
  • Non-citizen voting does happen

  • But:

    • It is rare

    • It is prosecuted when found

    • There is no credible evidence it is widespread or election-changing

👉 The article is best understood as:  A collection of real anecdotes used to support a broader claim that is not supported by data
 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @7    8 months ago

Hearsays are partisan truthes.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @7    8 months ago

Actual fraudulent ballots cast are pretty easy to locate if you're looking for them, it's why when the investigations were done of the 2020 election they did find some fraud, often Trump supporters voting multiple times. The kind of fraud that's not so easy to expose is the kind of fraudulent campaigns Trump and Republicans have used like the 'fake elector' plot and the pressure for States to just "find 11,000 more votes" and that shit. That's the election fraud right out in the open. On top of that you have the multiple Russian disinformation campaigns intended to help a specific candidate, that being Donald Trump because Russia hates America and knew Trump would damage America's reputation and drag us through the mud which is what Putin's been wanting to do for decades. And that smug little Russian piece of shit got what he wanted, sadly, but only because of how mind-numbingly stupid and gullible just less than half of our nation's voters appear to be by voting for a convicted felon rapist. But it's next to impossible to prove that some gullible shmuck voted the way they did because of the Russian disinformation campaign, even though you heard them regurgitating the Russian talking points daily.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8  Nerm_L    8 months ago

So, those damned foreigners voting illegally are responsible for putting asshole Trump in the White House?  The article points out that the illegal voting spans the political spectrum. 

Seems rather plausible that dufus foreigners could be duped into voting for Trump.  Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, Indians, and suburban women just don't vote Republican.  Trump acknowledges that with his claims of voter fraud.  Which tells us the cross-over votes Trump received must have been fraudulent, too.  And, ladies and gentlemen, that means Trump's Presidency is illegitimate. 

Trump made the argument, Trump proved the point, now it's time to correct the fraud.  Lock him up!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
9  Ozzwald    8 months ago
Pennsylvania, a crucial swing state, stands out for disastrous alien voter registration, said Adams. The Keystone State has admitted a glitch in its “motor voter” program, which registers voters at the DMV, inadvertently has allowed approximately 100,000 non-citizens to register to vote, though some state officials dispute this number. 

I don't see it listed in the article.  Of the 100,000 non-citizens given the ability to register to vote.  How many actually did register?  Since the author of this piece mentioned it, it would be very dishonest of him not to clarify how many did register....

 
 

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