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Trump’s ‘snake’ story is coming back to bite America

  

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Via:  tig  •  5 months ago  •  40 comments

By:   Chris Hayes

Trump’s ‘snake’ story is coming back to bite America
You knew damn well I was a snake when you let me in.

Trump supporters actually want this abysmal human being to be PotUS.


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Transcript by ChatGPT:


Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes.

As Donald Trump flirts with a 30% approval rating, he is telling the American people to their faces, day in, day out, that he is done pretending to care about what they think.

He doesn't care about the midterms. He does not care about your financial situation. All that stuff you promised in the campaign. That's just the stuff you have to say to get elected. Donald Trump cares about three things, I think.

Enriching himself and his family, using the power of the state to seek retribution on those who cross him, and putting his name and his face on as many things as possible.

And honestly, no one should be surprised, because Donald Trump has been telling us all along just who he is and what he's about. I mean, almost literally. Do you remember the poem, “The Snake”?

Trump would weirdly recite it at all the campaign rallies. It was supposedly about scary immigrants, but anyone even paying half attention could see that the guy was telling everyone who he was, and his supporters just ate it up.

Who has heard the poem called “The Snake”? Has anybody ever heard “The Snake”? This is “The Snake,” and people love it, and I do it if people want to hear it.

I read this the other day, and I said, “Wow, that's really amazing.” It's called “The Snake.” Should we do “The Snake” or not? Get me. Get me “The Snake,” please.

“The Snake.” Should I do it or not? Should I?

On her way to work one morning, down the path along the lake, a tender-hearted woman saw a poor, half-frozen snake. Interesting.

His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew.

“Oh, well,” she cried, “I'll take you in,” like we're doing.

“Take me in, oh, tender woman. Take me in, for heaven's sake. Take me in, oh, tender woman,” sighed the broken snake.

She clutched him to her bosom.

“You're so beautiful,” she cried.

“But if I hadn't brought you in by now, oh heavens, you would have died.”

She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight. But instead of saying thank you, that snake gave her a vicious bite.

“I saved you,” cried the woman, “and you've bitten me. But why? You know your bite is poisonous, and now I'm going to die.”

“Oh, shut up, silly woman,” said the reptile with a grin. “You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me.”

The snake doesn't just bite the woman. The snake says, “Shut up, you silly woman.” The snake reveals in the moment that he's killing the woman, like, “This was a con all along. I don't care. You knew damn well I was a snake when you let me in.”

And here we are. We're at that moment in the story. Because yes, yes, we did. Donald Trump is a snake, and we did let him in twice. And now he is biting us over and over and over and over and basically calling us stupid.

His second term has turned into an absolute feast of corruption and vindictive prosecution and self-aggrandizement.

We watch as he awards himself a $1.8 billion slush fund for him and the January 6th insurrectionists and Lord knows whoever else, and the ballroom he's building where the East Wing used to be that he wants $1 billion of your dollars for.

Or this renovation of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, where Trump's guy got a no-bid contract from the government because they had to rush quick and finish it before the 4th.

We're learning about the president's stock trading, which is on a level that no one has ever seen from a politician anywhere, including Congress.

3,700 transactions in the first three months of this year?

“Oh, it's an outside firm that handles those trades,” he says. So it must be sheer coincidence, for instance. His portfolio is filled with the same companies whose CEOs went to China with him or with Dell Computer.

Earlier this year, more than a million dollars' worth of stock was bought for the Trump org. Then Donald Trump went out and told everyone, literally, “Go buy a Dell.”

Then yesterday, the Pentagon announced a $9.7 billion contract with, wait for it, yes, you got it, Dell Computer, a $10 billion year.

In after-hours trading tonight, their stock was up almost 40%.

Now, Dell says they won the contract fair and square. You can decide whether you find that credible.

Today, ProPublica published this report saying that Peter Navarro, Trump, a guy who actually did prison time, a guy who helped plot January 6th, a guy who might get money from that fund, appealed directly to the Trump administration to loan a North Carolina start-up company more than $600 million.

Again, the size that we're talking about of the graft, of the corruption, is like incomprehensible. $600 million.

That was three months after the venture capital firm of Donald Trump Jr. took a stake in that same company. What a co-winky-dink.

Well, Don Jr. and the Pentagon say those relationships had nothing to do with a deal.

ProPublica reports that DOD staffers were tasked with working around the clock to get the loan, and as one DOD official granted anonymity told the outlet, and I quote, “The call came from the White House. We have to get this done.”

And all of this happens, and as all of this happens, the man and his bootlickers are busy plastering his name and his face on everything.

Today, we learn Trump is trying to print a $250 bill with his own face on it, like the U.S. passports with his face that are apparently coming this summer to those who are unfortunate enough to live in the D.C. area.

He's mused about having himself carved in Mount Rushmore.

He had the Palm Beach Airport named after him, also with a generous licensing agreement that allows him to profit from all the merch they sell there.

He's floating the idea of renaming Washington Dulles Airport after himself as well.

He wants New York Penn Station to become Trump Station.

His name is already on the Kennedy Center in D.C.

The stenciled name that they put up there is the Donald J. Trump and the John F. Kennedy Memorial Center, only memorial for one, we would imagine.

He did the same thing with the U.S. Institute of Peace.

It's now the Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace, and everywhere you look in D.C., his face is all over the banners.

Department of Labor, he got his own face blown up right next to Teddy Roosevelt.

The USDA put him up next to a banner of Abraham Lincoln.

Union Station, there are banners depicting Trump as a construction worker thanking him for his recent renovation work.

Most defensively, banners of the leader's face hang on the Department of Justice after people like the former director of the FBI.

Of course, last night, we learned about the investigation to the case of E. Jean Carroll, the woman who very credibly accused Donald Trump of rape, a woman who sustained what she said in front of a civil jury.

Donald Trump is intent on punishing those he deems to have crossed him. He's gorging on power and corruption. He's using our government as full extension of himself.

And here's the thing, he's at the point where he's not just pretending to be some broken snake.

He's not frozen. He's not trying to be anything else.

No, this is the point in the story when he tells us all, and he bites us.

And I gotta say, no one can say they are surprised by any of it.





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TᵢG
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1  seeder  TᵢG    5 months ago

The level of corruption and incompetence is staggering.  It is beyond obvious.

Yet some still want this incompetent, vindictive, corrupt demagogue to be PotUS.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1    5 months ago

jeanine pirro is subpoenaing social media companies for contact info on accounts that say mean things about the maga fuhrer ... 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @1.1    5 months ago

They don't care about incompetence; they celebrate it as sticking it to the educated liberals.

They celebrate corruption if it benefits them.

We are on a slippery slope.

People don't read anymore.

What happened after the Russian revolution? The "elites" and educated were rounded up for reeducation or death.

Same in China, Thailand, Vietnam and North Korea, any country that ends in "stan".

They want to dumb down the masses.

That's where we are headed.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.1    5 months ago
That's where we are headed.

neither of us needed to be the amazing kreskin to have predicted what that inept jag-off would pull once elected ...

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.4  CB  replied to  devangelical @1.1    5 months ago

MAGA King Trump wants to silence dissent? May I make a suggestion that 79 years old individuals should not be trolls to the people they profess to serve. Why? Because it is disturbingly confusing to the public as to whom is the 'servant' in the cast.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1    5 months ago

not getting permission from the national park service before erecting his MMA stage on white house grounds and then turning it into a grift is a good example of his repetitious poor behavior towards our american heritage ...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    5 months ago

Trump wants his name on everything, so I suggest we rename the poem "The Snake" to be "The Trump". 

By the way, that poem should never be confused with one of my favourite poems, "Snake" by D.H.Lawrence.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    5 months ago

We are at a crossroads - Trump is unsalvageable and irredeemable. His supporters that love America and what it used to be need to step up and withdraw support from him so the Republican Party can withdraw from him without fear of losing their base for their next election. Trump should be impeached asap and we'll take our chances with Vance for two years. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 months ago
His supporters that love America and what it used to be need to step up and withdraw support from him so the Republican Party can withdraw from him without fear of losing their base for their next election

fuck that noise. let the maga version of the republican party follow trump right over the cliff in the end, they deserve it ...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @3.1    5 months ago
let the maga version of the republican party follow trump right over the cliff in the end, they deserve it ...

While many do, I still hope Trumps base wakes up and realizes what they've been doing and have that moment of self-reflection. If they do I think many will see reality for what it is, and if they can be humble enough to admit they got scammed and decide to work towards bringing the scammer to justice and rebuilding bridges across the aisle instead of burning them as their dear Leader was demanding of them, there might just be some real hope for America.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @3.1    5 months ago

unless some (quite a few) maga come to their senses and reject trump, republican candidates will be in fear of losing their elections if they vote for impeachment and we will be stuck with the fool for two more years

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 months ago
unless some (quite a few) maga come to their senses and reject trump

The problem is that Trump has successfully convinced them that their problems, the things they care about like banning abortion and keeping white conservative male Christians in power, are carried by him, so if they just let him die on the battlefield, or worse, turn traitor and stab him in the back, it will mean giving up on protecting those things they've convinced themselves are important.

So now, no matter how horrible he is, no matter how many laws he's broken or crimes he's committed, most of his base are staying loyal because they don't see any other options. The only other exit is to admit they were gullible enough to get conned which is hard to do, especially for poorly educated white Christian conservative bullies.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.3    5 months ago

The thing is, Trump does not make an argument.   He lies, and they believe his lies.   

And those who know better but still support him no matter what are being irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 months ago
unless some (quite a few) maga come to their senses and reject trump,

do you see that happening here on NT? Every single one of them still defends trmp on everything

 
 
 
Thomas
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3.1.6  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    5 months ago
The thing is, Trump does not make an argument.   He lies, and they believe his lies.   

I don't think any but the truly dim believe his lies. That is not the purpose of his lies. Per ChatGPT:

According to Timothy Snyder, the point is not just to fool people about one particular fact . The deeper purpose is to destroy the public’s confidence that facts can be known at all .

Snyder’s argument is that Trump and Putin lie constantly because constant lying crowds factuality out of public life . Once people no longer believe there is a reliable distinction between true and false, they become politically disabled. They think they are being cynical or sophisticated, but they are actually made powerless, because citizens need shared facts to cooperate, organize, resist, and hold power accountable. Snyder put it bluntly: they lie, call journalists liars, and then govern inside the confusion. ( The Irish Times )

So the lie is not merely a cover story. It is a method of rule.

With Trump, Snyder says the 2020 election lie was not simply denial of reality. It was an invitation into an alternative reality , one that generated grievance, distrust of institutions, and ultimately political violence. Snyder argues that Trump knew he had lost, repeated claims after being told they were false, and used the Big Lie to try to remain in power. ( Timothy Snyder )

With Putin, Snyder sees the same structure at imperial scale. Putin’s big lie about Ukraine is that Ukraine is not a real nation or society. Once that premise is accepted, smaller lies follow: the war must be NATO’s fault, Ukraine must be run by Nazis, Russia must be defending civilization, and so on. ( Timothy Snyder )

The short version of Snyder’s answer would be:

They lie all the time because the goal is not persuasion. The goal is disorientation. If truth disappears, accountability disappears with it. Then politics becomes loyalty, grievance, spectacle, and force.

That is why Snyder’s warning is so stark: “post-truth is pre-fascism.” In his view, abandoning facts is not just bad manners or bad argument. It is the precondition for tyranny. ( vox.com )
 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.7  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @3.1.6    5 months ago

I think it is more basic than that.

Trump has operated on the principle that if you tell a lie with sufficient confidence and repeat it often enough, people will begin to accept it.

He has been able to get away with lying his whole life and it has worked for him.   No reason to stop now, especially when he has been stupidly granted the power and immunity of the presidency.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Thomas @3.1.6    5 months ago
“post-truth is pre-fascism.”

controlling the information available for consumption is essential for implementing fascism ...

 
 
 
Thomas
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3.1.9  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.7    5 months ago
Trump has operated on the principle that if you tell a lie with sufficient confidence and repeat it often enough, people will begin to accept it.

In some instances, like the 2020 election, yes. In other cases, no. The lying is just profligate and seemingly indiscriminate and about something that does not really seem to matter. It is done to throw everything said and done into question. Everything.

He has been able to get away with lying his whole life and it has worked for him.  

That was just like the entrance exam. He passed.

No reason to stop now, especially when he has been stupidly granted the power and immunity of the presidency.

It is like the perfect storm: Everything arranges itself  to work out just so, and even though people are standing there and screaming, "Nooooooooooooo!" it all just happens anyway. 

What the fuck did you expect to happen?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.10  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @3.1.9    5 months ago

I think you give Trump too much credit for foresight.   He has no foresight.   He is as impulsive as a child.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.1    5 months ago
I still hope Trumps base wakes up and realizes what they've been doing and have that moment of self-reflection

... at this point, trump supporters are complicit.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @3.1.11    5 months ago
... at this point, trump supporters are complicit.

They knew he was a snake and some now even admit it. But apparently, like in their Pentecostal snake rituals, they believe their God will either protect them from his bite or make them immune to the poison.

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devangelical
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3.1.13  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.12    5 months ago

there were snake handlers and poison drinkers on one side of my family a couple generations ago. surprise, they're all dead. I'm sure pete and the DoD probably recognized their status in his revised approved religions for the US military ...

 
 
 
Thomas
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3.1.14  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.10    5 months ago

I think you give Trump too much credit for foresight.   He has no foresight.   He is as impulsive as a child.

I agree with that statement, insofar as he has no foresight and his impulsivity matches that of a 5 year old, but the people around Trump are aware of what is going on, so his behaviors match (mostly) what they want. I think that Putin loves Trump and thinks that there has never been an American President so beneficial to his plans. Blind, stupid or indifferent, complicity in the destruction of American strategic world stature and moral values has MAGA's dirty little fingerprints all over it.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4  Thomas    5 months ago
Trump supporters actually want this abysmal human being to be PotUS.

Trump has been and will continue to be abysmal in character. If one did not know this, one was deluded by his smoke and mirrors, enchanted by the way he kept lying to you, perhaps one was enthralled by the way he seemed to get under the "liberals" skin. Or maybe one was just daft. This has been common knowledge for some time. He has presented to the world the face that he currently inhabits: Warts and all. 

Trump is traitor, pure and simple. And all you assholes out there who are going to say he is not are just simply wrong. Trump has been dabbling with Moscow for years, and the threats and oafishness that he and his administration deal out become even more apparently the product of behaving abysmally for power and profit on the world stage, not just related to local politics at all. Look up Timothy Snyder. If he is correct, this whole imbroglio is only the tip of the spear. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1  Thomas  replied to  Thomas @4    5 months ago

Trump is a traitor to the USA.

Per ChatGPT:

I’ll try to pin down the exact Snyder phrase, because he uses a few related ideas: national myths, “politics of inevitability,” “politics of eternity,” and anti-democratic thinkers like Ilyin and Schmitt.

Thought for 43s

Yes. The phrase you are reaching for is probably “the fable of the wise nation,” not “intelligent nation.”

Snyder uses that phrase mainly in the European context. The fable goes roughly like this: old European nations learned from war that war is bad, then wisely chose integration and peace through the European Union. Snyder’s objection is that this is too comforting. His counterargument is that many European states were not stable, mature nation-states that calmly chose wisdom. They were empires or remnants of empires that found integration after empire became unsustainable. So the danger is that people imagine they can “return” to a pure old nation-state that never really existed in the way the myth suggests.

That fits with his larger framework in The Road to Unfreedom: the movement from the politics of inevitability to the politics of eternity. Inevitability says, “history is moving toward progress, markets, liberal democracy, technology, and all we have to do is keep going.” Eternity says, “we are an innocent people, always under attack, betrayed by enemies, and only a strong leader can defend us.” Snyder says that when the happy story of automatic progress fails, people become vulnerable to the darker story of permanent threat.

The philosophers matter because Snyder is not treating Trump, Putin, Brexit, or authoritarian populism as random political events. He is tracing an intellectual genealogy. In his account, thinkers like Carl Schmitt and Ivan Ilyin help explain the anti-liberal move: politics becomes less about law, reason, public policy, or rights, and more about identifying enemies. Eurozine’s discussion of Snyder notes his treatment of Schmitt as a revived Nazi legal thinker and Ilyin as a Russian fascist philosopher whose politics begins with the choice of an enemy.

That is why Snyder’s argument feels like he is pointing to a larger scheme. The scheme is not necessarily a secret document sitting in a drawer. It is a recognizable political method:

Replace history with myth.
Replace policy with grievance.
Replace citizenship with loyalty.
Replace law with the leader’s will.
Replace the future with a loop of fear, nostalgia, crisis, and enemies.

In his recent writing on the United States, he makes that point even more directly. He argues that attacks on the federal government, civil service, law enforcement, intelligence, health, defense, and administration are part of a “logic of destruction,” where weakening the state makes oligarchic and personal power stronger.

So yes, your read is right: Snyder is not merely saying, “Here is another scandal.” He is saying the scandal becomes intelligible when seen as part of a broader movement away from democratic self-government and toward mythic, oligarchic, personalized

Putin references Ilyain multiple times, repeatedly. If you read this Ilyain guy, he's a quack. Full Stop. But Putin seems to revere him because he learned from Ilyian that he can control people, money, and power. 

 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Thomas @4.1    5 months ago
Replace history with myth.

And the only way to do that is to ridicule education and undermine facts and reality.

Replace policy with grievance.

Easy to do since there is always some group that thinks it's getting the short end of the stick when it comes to progress and society moving forward. So, all an authoritarian populist needs to do is target a group of poorly educated aggrieved citizens who don't even know what policy is, they just have to believe or be easily convinced that they're in pain.

Replace citizenship with loyalty.

It's easier to just express loyalty than it is to get educated and understand the constitution and even defend the rights of those you don't agree with which is what it truly means to be an American citizen. Expressing loyalty takes zero work and zero thinking, it just takes picking a side and rejecting all thought, it's mindless tribalism.

Replace law with the leader’s will.

When you're already a deluded poorly educated loyalist, your dear Leaders will is the law.

Replace the future with a loop of fear, nostalgia, crisis, and enemies.

How else are they supposed to maintain control over the gullible masses and keep them distracted from the outright theft happening from their back pockets? Why cling to a bible, buy another gun, stockpile ammo and canned goods while hoarding gold in your underground apocalypse bunker if you're not scared shitless of anyone you suspect of being gay, hear speaking a foreign language or has skin a shade darker than your own? Doing all that is just so much easier than learning not to fear those you've been taught to hate and fear... /s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Thomas @4.1    5 months ago
Replace history with myth.Replace policy with grievance.Replace citizenship with loyalty.Replace law with the leader’s will.Replace the future with a loop of fear, nostalgia, crisis, and enemies.

sounds familiar

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    5 months ago
sounds familiar

You’ve got to be taught to hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught from year to year,
It’s got to be drummed in your dear little ear—
You’ve got to be carefully taught!

You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a different shade—
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate—
You’ve got to be carefully taught!
You’ve got to be carefully taught!

I was cheated before
And I’m cheated again
By a mean little world
Of mean little men.
And the one chance for me
Is the life I know best.

To be on an island
And to hell with the rest.
I will cling to this island
Like a tree or a stone,
I will cling to this island
And be free—and alone.

“You've Got to Be Carefully Taught” (Rodgers/Hammerstein II)

I think it's interesting that the last stanza of that song was from the perspective of someone who was running from persecution and racism, but it can also fit the fascist "My Country/My Cause/My People first!" mentality. In both cases, it's clear that it's unhealthy. Neither should we be cowed into isolation by racist and misogynist pigs, nor should we reject diversity just so we can cling to some fantasy race-based lifestyle and culture.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5  Hal A. Lujah    5 months ago

If the alternative to voting for Trump is voting for a democrat, then 38% of America will gladly allow the whip to keep lashing them on their backs until it kills them.  Irrational hatred is what controls them, just like how racists remain racist.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    5 months ago
Irrational hatred is what controls them

... with a healthy dose of irrational fear.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @5.1    5 months ago
with a healthy dose of irrational fear.

Irrational fear is never healthy. It's why nearly half of America are so sick they voted for a convicted felon and accused pedophile.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    5 months ago

we're about to find out what congress magas fear most, trump or their constituents, thru the summer towards the election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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TᵢG
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6.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @6    5 months ago

Every time I hear or read stuff like this, I wonder yet again what kind of mind would even think of supporting this sick buffoon.   And, amazingly, some are still insisting this psychopath is fit to be PotUS.

Because he is a failed president and a national disgrace.

An understatement.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @6.1    5 months ago

I kind of hope trump and his family escape the US and leave his elected henchmen here holding the bag ...

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.2  CB  replied to  devangelical @6.1.1    5 months ago

Politically, it is time-the time has come to take on the "henchmen and henchwomen" ejected from the 'royal' court. . . forget going after 'teflon' Don for now. . . concentrate on undermining the "lieutenants" every time one or the other of them crosses a legal line: Be there to greet them with a proper citation to "Appear"!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.3  devangelical  replied to  CB @6.1.2    5 months ago

I'm leaning towards carvilles prediction that trump will resign if he loses control of the house and senate, and he'll probably try to leave the country to escape prosecution ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.4  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @6.1.3    5 months ago

Trump will never resign.   He is irrational and will lie and cheat indefinitely.   The only way to get rid of Trump is through force.    In reality, this means the long shot of impeachment.

I hope that the electorate has seen the light and will redefine Congress in a way that will hobble Trump.   That, IMO, is the best realistic scenario we can hope for.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.1.5  CB  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.4    5 months ago

Me too. Because I am sure that by Trump, as the saying goes: "We AIN'T seen nothing yet!" 

MAGA King Trump is desperately striving to 'top' the mid-terms, so he can start his "Second Edition" and end his tragic administration with a thunderous "BANG!"  That is, if we think he has not been listening to us so far. . . the man highly probably won't have 'ears' at all in his upcoming two years after mid-terms. 

This it the time for independents to help democrats (I know-I know) hold this MAGA King to account. . . for we have all seen that republicans like nauseating Senator Susan Collins won't do it or Senator Lisa Murkowski and even "counting down the day" - Senator John Cornyn!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.6  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.4    5 months ago

that POS will never live long enough to be prosecuted in a court of law, but hopefully his kids are entangled enough in his corruption that they will have to face the music ...  

 
 

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