How can we sleep at night when these monsters are committing genocide? Some will say, let them deal with it, but they aren't going to stop, it's only beginning.
Sadly, most people (especially many of the self-proclaimed "human rights advocates") don't really give a hoot about human suffering. They only bring these things up when it suits their own political agenda.
Apparently many accept the actions of these monsters because they are unwilling to stand up on the issues of tolerance for others . A religion that doesn't have tolerance in its values is the perfect test of the nature of democracy's traditions .
It just shows that barbarians still exist and possess the power to hold the rest of the world hostage. If the world is ever going to find peace (and that is a very big "IF"), it will not be through religion.
I do agree with you, JR. If we start to behave with the intolerant attitude of the extremists, how can we stand as a civilized society? That is, if we consider ourselves civilized.
Aren't Christians just supposed to turn the other cheek?
Well I guess that only works if ya still have a cheek left to turn.
It's past time to go and exterminatethese vermin with prejudice. Completely and totally wipe them off the face of the earth, without even a rumor of their lowly existence left-over.
I think that there needs to a level of understanding that no one group is all good or all bad. Good and bad exist in every group, whether you are referring to race, creed or nationality.
John, that is the way you see it. I deal with Muslims every day of the week and I don't see it that way. Do you have a special way of looking at things?
BTW that picture is just heart breaking. I can barely look.
Then DO NOT read the article, it will keep you full of tears. The devastation in the eyes of parents holding up their child's lifeless, headless body, makes my eyes run and my blood boil....
I thought long and hard before putting this article up. I conversed with several before doing so. I think it is important we realize we are not alone nor isolated on this earth and believe we must do something. This is pure genocide and anyone who can watch this from afar and not feel compelled to act .........
We removed a Secular leader in Iraq and created the mess.
I agree.
ISIS isn't going to disappear if we drop bombs. ISIS won't go away if we put troops back on the ground.
There I disagree. We made this mess, we need to clean it up. ISIS is 18,000 strong by most counts. They are still small enough to get rid of them. Otherwise we have learned nothing from WWII. Doing nothing will NOT make them go away, but it will make a whole lot of other people suffer an awful death.
I am not a bigot and I do tolerate peaceful Islamic people. They do in fact exist here in America
I agree. But all the more reason to take action. We owe it to these people. ISIS are a gang of monsters. This isn't your run of the mill us vs them that seems to go on endlessly on our planet.
It's an excuse one uses that helps assuage the guilt of knowing that one isn'twilling to do anything about. It's a pacifist copout.
An important quote from George Orwell on pacifism:
“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.”
Six I totally agree. Not every nation is fit for democracy. That is the mistake we make over and over. Saddam knew his people and knew how to keep them in line. He also knew how to keep Iran in line.
If you want to talk about the Kurds, it was us who let them down. We promised to support them and we didn't and that is why they got gassed. Yet they still consider us allies. They are a good people and deserve better than ISIS who has them next on the list of things to do. They have said this.
And then for some to try and blame Americans for this and then put us on the same levels as these barbarians as a way to rationalize this behavior just stokes that boiling point in me even further.
We are to blame as in we shouldn't have removed Saddam, and then there would be no ISIS. But we are not barbarians.
Not like this. No mass slaughters. He did what every dictator does. But he also knew how to keep this kind of raging lunatics under control, since there was an actual loyal army. Now we have murder going on, on a level that hasn't been seen since probably Cambodia.
We removed a Secular leader in Iraq and created the mess.
That secular leased invaded Iran and used biological and chemical weapons on civilians. He invaded Kuwait. By all means Baathism was a golden age for the people of the region. Compare the numbers killed before the "mess" and after. Over a million dead before we supposedly stated the mess..
Why do you assume a secular leader would still be in charge if we had not done anything in Iraq. ? Secular leaders did not survive in Egypt, Libya and one is barely hanging on in rump Syria without our intervention.
Six...continues to post videos instead of using his words. Use your words like a big boy six....
So that is what a big boy does? I didn't realize that. I use anything I want. Since that is not a big boy or little boy, what would you call that?
I said it was a mistake to remove Hussein and put the video up as evidence Bush didn't twist anyone's arms in doing so, since the history book seems to get rewritten so often.
Apparently there is one who believes we have human rights issues that are compatible to the atrocities committed by the latest guest in the White House.
RL..... Diversity isn't all it is cracked up to be. People who immigrated to this country didn't come here to diversify. They came here to be a part of this country. All this diversity crap is to divide the people, not unify them.
This means recognize the differences in people, but work toward their common interest.
Now it's I'm an Indian. I'm a Mexican, I'm an African, I'm a I'm a whatever....
I disagree about diversity. I think it's great to celebrate our backgrounds and still recognize that is what makes us Americans. We are the only nation made of many nations. It was by design and in our roots. I don't know if we need to teach it in schools but I also think is part of the tapestry of who we are as a people.
Both of you missed my point or I didn't explain it good enough. I think diversity is a good thing, but we need to aim more toward being American than centering our attention on our differences.
I totally agree with you RL. I don't mean forget your heritage. Celebrate your heritage, but the most important thing is celebrating you are an American.
The immigrants who came here during my early life and before didn't come here from Russia to bring Russia with them. They came here to become Americans. They didn't forget where they came from. Their lives were not centered on their diversity, it was centered on "We are Americans".
When is the last time you heard our leadership mention Americans? He promotes diversity. Centers all his attention on our differences, one group against the other. People have been taught how diversity is such a great thing and it is, but when you center your life on your differences then it is a dividing factor instead of a unifying factor.
Yes be tolerant of others who are different from you, but it is a lot easier when you are constantly reminded you both share the most important thing and that is you are both Americans.
If you want to push diversity over unity then expect to have no peace.
Diversity: The Magic Word The compelling need to promote diversity trumps all else including rational thought.
How can we sleep at night when these monsters are committing genocide? Some will say, let them deal with it, but they aren't going to stop, it's only beginning.
Sadly, most people (especially many of the self-proclaimed "human rights advocates") don't really give a hoot about human suffering. They only bring these things up when it suits their own political agenda.
Apparently many accept the actions of these monsters because they are unwilling to stand up on the issues of tolerance for others . A religion that doesn't have tolerance in its values is the perfect test of the nature of democracy's traditions .
It just shows that barbarians still exist and possess the power to hold the rest of the world hostage. If the world is ever going to find peace (and that is a very big "IF"), it will not be through religion.
I do agree with you, JR. If we start to behave with the intolerant attitude of the extremists, how can we stand as a civilized society? That is, if we consider ourselves civilized.
Mother*&%@!&&&%*&^I$^^%%&^% ^!!!!!!! Coward assholes!
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Aren't Christians just supposed to turn the other cheek?
Well I guess that only works if ya still have a cheek left to turn.
It's past time to go and exterminatethese vermin with prejudice. Completely and totally wipe them off the face of the earth, without even a rumor of their lowly existence left-over.
Lined up and executed, their severed heads put on display as a warning to others: Horrific new photographs of ISIS atrocities
Oh I totally agree. Krish.
I think that there needs to a level of understanding that no one group is all good or all bad. Good and bad exist in every group, whether you are referring to race, creed or nationality.
Well we are witnessing what a true genocide looks like. If we do nothing, than we never learned a thing from WWII and WWI (the Armenian genocide).
BTW that picture is just heart breaking. I can barely look.
Some day, I'll teach you a little about diversity John.
Personally, I'd light another one up BF and sit back and listen to some music if I were you.
John, that is the way you see it. I deal with Muslims every day of the week and I don't see it that way. Do you have a special way of looking at things?
Personally I don't have any tolerance for these savages and I still eat at Chick fil A.
Then DO NOT read the article, it will keep you full of tears. The devastation in the eyes of parents holding up their child's lifeless, headless body, makes my eyes run and my blood boil....
I think that the Daily Mail could of worded that a bit better, but it is going on.
There was an article about how the NYT hid the Holocaust. Is that right either?
I think that Journalist are obligated to report what is going on, but do it in a journalistic manner.
Was it a good move? Not in my opinion. Hussein was like a guard dog, but you wanted to make sure he was on a chain when you fed him.
I thought long and hard before putting this article up. I conversed with several before doing so. I think it is important we realize we are not alone nor isolated on this earth and believe we must do something. This is pure genocide and anyone who can watch this from afar and not feel compelled to act .........
I agree.
There I disagree. We made this mess, we need to clean it up. ISIS is 18,000 strong by most counts. They are still small enough to get rid of them. Otherwise we have learned nothing from WWII. Doing nothing will NOT make them go away, but it will make a whole lot of other people suffer an awful death.
I agree.
I disagree John.
The expressing that pictures speak louder than words holds true.
People are looking for a reason to ignore this. It can't be ignored.
BF,
I agree. But all the more reason to take action. We owe it to these people. ISIS are a gang of monsters. This isn't your run of the mill us vs them that seems to go on endlessly on our planet.
When good people do nothing.....
It's an excuse one uses that helps assuage the guilt of knowing that one isn'twilling to do anything about. It's a pacifist copout.
An important quote from George Orwell on pacifism:
“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.”
Six I totally agree. Not every nation is fit for democracy. That is the mistake we make over and over. Saddam knew his people and knew how to keep them in line. He also knew how to keep Iran in line.
If you want to talk about the Kurds, it was us who let them down. We promised to support them and we didn't and that is why they got gassed. Yet they still consider us allies. They are a good people and deserve better than ISIS who has them next on the list of things to do. They have said this.
It pains me to agree with Robert, BF, but he is right.
@ Larry,
Too late. I did. I threw up in my mouth.
We are to blame as in we shouldn't have removed Saddam, and then there would be no ISIS. But we are not barbarians.
I agree!
Well, apparently there are some on NT who think we are.
Perrie, why should the truth be painful?
Not like this. No mass slaughters. He did what every dictator does. But he also knew how to keep this kind of raging lunatics under control, since there was an actual loyal army. Now we have murder going on, on a level that hasn't been seen since probably Cambodia.
Mike,
It's just mine and Roberts love story. The truth isn't painful.
Well this is the problem with opinions. Everyone has one.
That secular leased invaded Iran and used biological and chemical weapons on civilians. He invaded Kuwait. By all means Baathism was a golden age for the people of the region. Compare the numbers killed before the "mess" and after. Over a million dead before we supposedly stated the mess..
Why do you assume a secular leader would still be in charge if we had not done anything in Iraq. ? Secular leaders did not survive in Egypt, Libya and one is barely hanging on in rump Syria without our intervention.
So that is what a big boy does? I didn't realize that. I use anything I want. Since that is not a big boy or little boy, what would you call that?
I said it was a mistake to remove Hussein and put the video up as evidence Bush didn't twist anyone's arms in doing so, since the history book seems to get rewritten so often.
Apparently there is one who believes we have human rights issues that are compatible to the atrocities committed by the latest guest in the White House.
Frank Zappa got into this issue many decades ago :
RL..... Diversity isn't all it is cracked up to be. People who immigrated to this country didn't come here to diversify. They came here to be a part of this country. All this diversity crap is to divide the people, not unify them.
This means recognize the differences in people, but work toward their common interest.
Now it's I'm an Indian. I'm a Mexican, I'm an African, I'm a I'm a whatever....
We should be emphasizing I'm an American.
I disagree about diversity. I think it's great to celebrate our backgrounds and still recognize that is what makes us Americans. We are the only nation made of many nations. It was by design and in our roots. I don't know if we need to teach it in schools but I also think is part of the tapestry of who we are as a people.
And what is "American", Six? Is it the land, the language, the culture, the people, the geographical boundary?
Both of you missed my point or I didn't explain it good enough. I think diversity is a good thing, but we need to aim more toward being American than centering our attention on our differences.
I totally agree with you RL. I don't mean forget your heritage. Celebrate your heritage, but the most important thing is celebrating you are an American.
The immigrants who came here during my early life and before didn't come here from Russia to bring Russia with them. They came here to become Americans. They didn't forget where they came from. Their lives were not centered on their diversity, it was centered on "We are Americans".
When is the last time you heard our leadership mention Americans? He promotes diversity. Centers all his attention on our differences, one group against the other. People have been taught how diversity is such a great thing and it is, but when you center your life on your differences then it is a dividing factor instead of a unifying factor.
Yes be tolerant of others who are different from you, but it is a lot easier when you are constantly reminded you both share the most important thing and that is you are both Americans.
If you want to push diversity over unity then expect to have no peace.
Diversity: The Magic Word
The compelling need to promote diversity trumps all else including rational thought.
In this country we call it freedom of speech.