New group for Trek fans
Just a quick FYI.
If you're a fan of any Star Trek show or film, then be sure to pop over to the new group and join.
If you'd like to migrate any Trek-related articles or seeds over, then please feel free to do so, though I just discovered that migrating seems to wipe out an article's up votes for some reason.
Anyway, there it is.
Live long and prosper.
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I've hunted down and edited several options for the group logo, which I'll show in a post later on (after we've picked up some members). I'll ask for any that group members find (or make) as well, and then we can vote and choose the group logo together.
Sound good?
Oh, I'm down!
I like the image you chose for this article:
Me too. It was hard to choose. That's why I figured we could vote on it a little later on.
By the way, do you know why the migrate function drops article votes to zero? Not that it matters much, I'm just curious. Also, Sandy tried to join but the system wouldn't add her.
I was not aware that it did drop votes.
Sandy cannot 'join' because the platform does not allow moderators to join. They just 'are'.
I migrated the four Picard seeds over and they all went to zero. Like I said, it's not a big deal, just something I noticed and was wondering about.
I'm in, but I won't buy CBS ACCESS to watch the two newest shows in the franchise. But, I have all my trek knowledge from the beginning franchise.
We are going to be nothing but spoiler for you then.
Well, as a matter of principle I have too much "tv" and other media already. I would have to let something go. I do "heart" me some Picard, though.
Perrie had an idea in the last Picard discussion you might like: Wait for the season to finish airing, get the free trial, binge the show, and then cancel before you're billed.
The episode discussions here will have all occurred by then, though (except for the last one, maybe).
I think that's what I'll end up doing: waiting until the Picard season ends before getting All Access. Then I'll binge watch it & Discovery
I actually did that for Discovery Season 1. I had a 'ball' with it too. "Delayed anticipation." Awesome. Will I have the discipline though, when y'all rub Picard in with your best salts and spices? Blah! (Smile.)
I'm hoping that Hulu or Netflix will pick it up once the season is over and then I can binge watch it
I doubt CBS will allow anyone else to provide the series. But who knows.
It's a little slow to develop and I found a couple characters super annoying, but it does get better as it goes along and has what I honestly believe is the greatest final space battle scene I have ever seen in the last episode.
Good for you Gordy. That way it's painless. (except you will never sleep, LOL)
Sleep is overrated. I remember the old days when some tv stations would have a ST marathon. Of course I had to stay up & watch.
I totally agree Gordy!
Mr Giggles bought All Access so he can watch Survivor. I think I will use all Access to watch Picard. I just have to see if it works in all parts of the house and not just the man cave
I have the all access already. Just haven't watched it yet.
I got it years ago to spy on people in the big brother house. Haha
Oh good. I'm coming to your house!
Forgot about Big Brother. He watches that, too
Come on over! Thursday night is his bowling night so I have the whole house to myself.
Bring snacks!
You're lots of fun! Thanks, TG!
I will bring my work of art sub sammiches.
Thank you, Paula. Looking out for my honor, no doubt!
HA!
I guess there's little reason to maintain the Science Fiction Fanatics group.
That can be for Star Wars fans.
No.We need to start a group for Star Wars fans and one for Dune fans and one for.....
1 for Asimov fans, one for Doc Smith fans, 1 for Twilight Zone fans, 1 for Arthur C Clark fans, 1 for Ray Bradbury fans......fuck the existing Science Fiction Fanatics group.
Sheesh, Buzz. Lighten up.
With 13 films and counting, 8 separate TV series and counting, and who knows how many books and video games, the Star Trek universe is plenty big enough to warrant its own group, don't you think?
By the way, you're welcome to join, you know.
Sheesh! Jealousy is getting me nowhere. LOL
I have no reason to. My preference was always with Shatner and Nimoy, besides the fact that I can't get to see the new series anyway.
The group is Star Trek, as in the entire franchise, not just the new shows
Speaking of the shows, an often overlooked one is ST: The Animated Series. Highly underrated if you ask me.
I've only seen a couple of them, and I think that was back in the late 70's or early 80's.
I wonder if All Access or Netflix has that? I might have to see if I can watch some of it one of these days. It's probably pretty nostalgic. The original actors did the voice work, right?
The series came out in 1973 I believe. And yes, most of the original cast did reprise their roles, with the notable exception of Walter Koenig. But he did write an episode. It also featured some guest stars from TOS, like Roger Carmel as Harry Mudd. James Doohan did a lot of other character voices like aliens the Enterprise crew encountered.
Groups are going to overlap. SFFG logically covers the entire spectrum of SF. This group does a deep dive on one extremely popular, long-running SF genre. I think Star Trek has earned the right to have its own group.
The content is staggering and the supporters are many ... covering over 50 years of this stuff.
Check my responses to D.S. above. The last series I really enjoyed watching was The West Wing.
You could join just to stay in touch with the most recent direction of the genre.
Why bother if I can't watch it anyway?
Possibly to associate and maybe participate in a lively discussion with a bunch of interesting and good people in what is thus far an environment free of political/religious/gun/rights and other petty squabbling that we see in 99% of the other articles here. So what if you're not up to speed and a traditionalist it'll still be more fun and interesting than the alternative.
I appreciate your advice but these days I'm administering 4 different groups and contributing to a few others so I'm up to my neck in associations - I can't contribute to a group when I have no access to the topic, nor follow what others who do have access can post.
count me in, is there a join button?
You are already 'in' because of your moderator status.
I was wondering about this, myself. I never got to see the group page as a non-member.
I hope a join button is there. People are joining so it must be.
Could someone let me know and satisfy my curiosity?
It's there
Thanks.
You know Picard is the best Trek Captain of all time when he gets an entire series based around his character.
Absolutely!
Agreed and i'm sure opinions will vary but then for me its a close second with Sisko and Archer, then Original Kirk, then Janeway, the Pines Kirk, as so on ..... thats a whole other article on Capt rankings ......
Damn, Sparty. Archer is my second favorite captain.
Lol, rare common ground, which is nice.
Bakula did a great job but i must admit, my attentions in that series were more drawn to his sub-commander T'Pol ......
Sisko was good as well. I think DS-9 may be my overall favorite of the Star Trek series. Tough to really pick that though.
I've always had a thing for Scott Bakula since Quantum Leap.
Enterprise is my favorite of all the Star Treks
I figured that might have something to do with it. Enterprise definitely gets the "hottie" award with him and Blalock.
Do you watch him on NCIS. I draw the line with Gibbs NCIS .... too many damn NCIS's these days.
I don't watch network TV anymore. So every night I'm looking for something on Prime, Hulu, or Netflix to watch. Except Thursday and Friday nights because that's Law and Order nights on Sundance
I love Law & Order. One day I'll buy all the seasons on DVD. I don't get Sundance on my cable service.
It's rare that I watch any network TV anymore. Used to love Mike & Molly and Modern Family, but after so many seasons, some shows just aren't that great any more.
I need to get rid of cable and keep my internet connection, I have Hulu, Netflix, and the Disney+ streaming services so it's such a waste of money to spend so much on cable every month.
The Kirk vs Picard nerd debate has been going on since TNG premiered. But each Captain brings something different to the table. Picard is probably the most well rounded of the bunch.
T'Pol is a hottie to be sure. Props to Archer though: he managed to bring the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites all together to eventually form the Federation itself.
I loved QL but hated Enterprise. I still have a major thing for Scott. I went to a QL convention and got to meet him and AL. The lady next to me went into labor but refused to go the hospital until Scot or Al rubbed her stomach for luck. Both are die hard environmentalists so I sent the show an idea that I thought was pure gold. Put out a CD of the out takes and mistakes calling it Quantum Bleep. The money generated by the sales of the CD could have gone to their favorite causes. They never even got back to me.
[I will tell you something, Paula. Just between you and me and no one else: I heart Scott Bakula and I heart "Enterprise" theme song, but I hated its plot. I simply could not mentally digress with a series like Star Trek. Doing that was not a good fit for me. I tried, and missed many episodes. Maybe missed even a season,. . . or two? Don't known quite really. I never missed any other Star Trek episode to this day! Until, of course, CBS Access privatized the franchise. Do me a favor keep this between us two. Thanks!]
That does sound like a great idea. Love the story
CB and Paula....you didn't like Enterprise?????
I didn't like how cold the Vulcans were but I was highly impressed with the Andorians.
Gasp! How you see that, TG?! How?! Oh my.
Trout G., on the real I have never been good with series or programs that regress. I even tend to watch movies once (even when experience has demonstrated to me that you can get benefits out of a movie a second time). I am just odd that way. But, I still work on doing it a little bit.
After seeing all these abilities and tech ideas of Star Trek in the other advanced series (the Borg being the apex) trying to fill in the past was slow to me. Again, that theme song makes me cry to today!
Ahhhh....I see. I have never been impressed by tech in any of the series. It's all about the story line and character development for me. That's what I loved about Enterprise...they developed the characters more than I saw them do on any of the other Star Trek series. And I have to admit I like story arcs. I didn't see that in TOS or TNG. I never watched the others so I can't say.
Picard's assimilation and recovery were the closest thing to an arc in TNG, and it was all of what, 3 episodes?
I both like story arcs and see problems with them. Story arcs were why I didn't get into DS9 - I was in college and missed a few episodes because my college's cable system didn't show DS9, and when I could watch it, I was lost. Today, though, I think story arcs work fine. With streaming services, the only reason to miss an episode is lack of interest. And I think story arcs aid character development.
Hi TG! Yes, I love character development too! Along with rich content and vision. I thought Enterprise would be risky for me, because it attempted to look back at the beginning of the Star Trek plot-line and then go where? "Captain Kirk" already dominated and was the face of early interstellar space travel. That being known, after creating plasma realms (Voyager), where else could the human mind go to advance the story forward? It will be interesting to me to eventually learn if Picard is advancing the future (growth) vertical timeline or floating along on a horizontal timeline.
My main problem was that to me SB will always be Sam Beckett. I just could not accept him in another role including CSI NO.
Engage!
"Make it so!"
I haven't watched Picard yet but I am in.
Did the Romulans create the Borg?? ..... oooh who knows but a juicy Star Trek story line to be sure
That would be a fantastic twist! But it would be difficult to explain how they got from the Alpha quadrant to the Gamma quadrant, established their massive empire and returned with regard to established ST timelines
That's the tease i've heard coming from Picard talkers ....... time will tell .... regardless .... damn Romulans, always stirring the pot .....
Indeed they do.
Hey, the Space Farce logo and Star Trek logo look similar.
I noticed that while looking for logos.
Here's a side-by-side:
They intentionally chose an arrowhead type of symbol. That can't be a coincidence, can it?
I can't get used to the name "Space Force", by the way. It sounds cartoonish and farcical to me, in a Captain Proton sort of way.
If I recall correctly, even George Takei said something about the Space Force logo. Hmm, perhaps Space Force (it does sound like the title for a campy sci-fi show) is the precursor to Starfleet?
I understand space force. The pattern was established by our use of armed forces (and air force, naval force). I guess they wanted to be conventional. The space part is also understandable. Cosmos Force seems awkward (and rather arrogant). Space really is the proper English word.
What they could have done is buck the precedent and just come up with a name. Following the pattern of Army (armed forces) and Navy (naval forces) would yield Spacey. LOL Not gonna happen. So they would need something totally unique in etymology — a new pattern entirely. Something maybe like 'Exterra' (derived from: 'Extraterrestrial Explorers').
Space force, however, is much easier to comprehend and probably would play better in general.
The Air Force already had a department called Space Command that was responsible for satellites and other things space related.
Space Command was shut down several years ago for some reason (I don't know why). All they needed to do was reactivate it internally. An entirely separate branch of the military seems completely unnecessary at this time (not to mention more expensive), and the name Space Force is just plain campy (as Gordy rightly put it). It's Duck Dodgers in the 24th and a half century stuff, to my ear at least. I'm visualizing Daffy Duck in a cape... Spathe Forth!
Such new names are meant for the next generation. For them it will be a 'normal' institutional name.
Was Starfleet Command available? Too much?
I can see why they used Space Force.
My son told my husband that airman are getting the first dibs on billets in the Space Force. He said he's content to turn wrenches on the C-130. He doesn't want to go into space.
Once we've actually reached any other stars besides Sol, then maybe we could call it Starfleet...but then we'll have an international force not just American.
What about "Star Force?" Wait, wasn't that the title of an old game?
Duck Dodgers.....I love it. Thank you for the giggle.
I'm in!
Am I the only lunatic (and I do mean the meaning of that word), that stayed up to watch this week's ep?
Holy Crap! I just watched Episode 5. Stardust City Rag. head spinning
Great Ep, right?
Aaahhhh, spoilers!! Lol
By the way, am I the only one in thinking that Picard's 2 Romulan housekeepers are 2 of the more awesome characters in the series? And that's just my impression from the 1st episode.
Great husband & wife team full of great dynamics...
Exactly. I wouldn't mind an episode dealing with their backstory.
I said Nothing!
LOL, nice
I wanna know where she got her Irish accent.
To be fair, if humans can have different accents, why can't Romulans?
True. Maybe the universal translator allows one to choose an accent?
Possible. Although, it was only shown to produce translations only. The speaker's voice was unaltered. So it stands to reason any accent is also of the speaker.
Watched episode 5 yesterday an was blown away by Agnes's actions at the end. I did not see that coming!
When the show was still in production, a friend of mine worked in one of the big book chains in L.A., Sir Patrick was shopping there. He was paying for his books but got sidetracked by fans. My friend didn't want to have to re ring him up so she got on the PA and yelled "Captain Picard to the bridge!" That got his attention and a smile from him. He finished paying and went outside to talk with his fans. Although this is not ST related, if you like Sir Patrick as an actor, he did a great remake of The Canterville Ghost. It is worth watching and was better than the original IMO.