JBB

JBB

Exclusive - January 6th Congressional Hearing Live

  
By:  JBB  •  Politics  •  4 months ago  •  248 comments

Exclusive - January 6th Congressional Hearing Live
"They were screaming, 'Kill Him With His Own Gun'. They tortured me. They beat me. I was unconscious for four minutes."

As the far right celebrates elderly former US Senator Barbara Boxer being mugged and ridiculed Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez for correctly using a big word the whole truth of what realky happened in Washington DC on January 6th, 2021 is being illustrated. What are your thoughts as you watch the hearing live on television? Frankly, my first impression is how stunning it all still is. A Trumpian mob of thousands egged on by Trump himself violently attacked the heart of our Republic on January 6th. It was the bravery of the men and women defending the citadel of our Democracy that saved our freedom and our Constitution. America, are you guys watching?

Tags

jrBlog - desc
[]
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1  author  JBB    4 months ago

Are you guys watching this?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    4 months ago

Nope!  Much ado about nothing. Won't add a thing to what we already know

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 months ago
Much ado about nothing. Won't add a thing to what we already know

Nothing?

WTF!!!

What about this . . . from coverage of today's hearings. (Today was Day1, consisting of testimony from people who were there! (Four brave D.C. police officers):   

Here's the actual testimony:

D.C. Police Officer Gonell Slams Trump's Comments: 'I'm Still Recovering From all Those  Hugs And Kisses'

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    4 months ago

the capitol police testimony of how much trumpsters support the police? yup.

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
1.2.1  Veronica  replied to  devangelical @1.2    4 months ago
trumpsters support the police

Blue lives matter to them only when they are beating on or killing black men.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
1.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Veronica @1.2.1    4 months ago
Blue lives matter to them only when they are beating on or killing black men.

Kinda like how black lives matter only when a black person is killed by a white cop, justified or not.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Veronica @1.2.1    4 months ago
Blue lives matter to them only when they are beating on or killing black men.

Lately its becoming more and more obvious that the term "Blue Lives Matter" no longer applies to most Trump supporters!

(And its really becoming even clearer to people who watched today'ls testimonies. (Today was Day 1-- testimony from D.C. police Officers who were actually there-- and what they experienced from the Insurrectionists.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @1.2.2    4 months ago

kinda like how your comment implies that both statements are equally true...

 
 
 
Ronin2
PhD Quiet
1.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Veronica @1.2.1    4 months ago

Blue lives never matter to the left unless they can be used as a political tool to try and get Trump (yet again); and slightly diminish the beating Democrats are going to take at midterms.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
1.3  Krishna  replied to  JBB @1    4 months ago

Are you guys watching this?

One of the most important of recent news stories!

(Full coverage on most TV stations...but I wonder if Fox is covering it at all...???)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Adam Kinzinger has tears in his eyes as he praises the Capitol Police. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

Kinzinger is giving great opening remarks. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Oh, this is the political stunt they are going to try and will the midterms with?   

They think the public will forget open borders, run away inflation, teaching racism in our schools via Jan 6th?   Are they that far gone?

Rational human beings can't be decieved that way. Everyone tune into CNN and turn off your ability to reason.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago

Vic, answer a question for me. 

Donald Trump watched the violent riot on television for hours BEFORE he went on twitter and told his supporters, the insurrectionists to "Remember this day forever". 

Why was he telling them to remember "forever" a violent attack by his supporters on the national seat of government ? 

Trump congratulated the people who attacked the Capitol Building. 

Don't you think Congress needs to find out why? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
PhD Quiet
3.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    4 months ago
Don't you think Congress needs to find out why? 

They aren't trying to find out why. Their purpose is to put on another BS show; like their two impeachments, and the Mueller hearings. Crank up the emotional water works; tug on TDS sufferers already frayed grasp of reality; and waste a shitload of tax payer money. Then rail against the system not allowing them to do anything; which they knew from the start.

The sooner Pelosi and crew are out of power the better. Mid terms cannot come quick enough.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    4 months ago
Vic, answer a question for me. 

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Sorry JohnRussell, but you do crack me up sometimes...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.1    4 months ago

Ok, you answer why Trump told his supporters to remember a violent riot on his behalf "forever".  But because that is exactly what he did. He was even president of the United States at the time. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    4 months ago

Oh, they are investigating Trump again?  Got it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    4 months ago

Not again, STILL or FINALLY.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    4 months ago

You are defenseless in this argument so maybe we should go easy on you. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    4 months ago

I asked YOU why Trump, (who knew that his supporters had been violent and attacking police and had entered the Senate chamber and tried to enter the house chamber,) told his mob to "remember this day forever". He didnt say that before the riot, he said it after he had been watching the violence on television for hours. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    4 months ago

Go easy? Fuck that? Hammer the shit out of him!

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
3.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.8    4 months ago

Where's Maxwell when we need him?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
3.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    4 months ago
Don't you think Congress needs to find out why?

Do you imagine that there is ANY chance they will?  

This is theatre.

You like it because you hate Trump.  Don't overcomplicate it.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.8    4 months ago
Go easy? Fuck that? Hammer the shit out of him!

I do that every day. Let me take at least one afternoon off. jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.1.12  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    4 months ago
Oh, they are investigating Trump again? 

Correct:

After congressional Republicans widely rejected a bipartisan commission to investigate the Capitol riot, US Rep Michelle Fischbach claimed that “Democrats refuse to put together a truly bipartisan commission” – after she voted against the bipartisan attempt from both Democrats and Republicans.

She had her chance for a bi-partisan commission, but voted against it!

(Anyone remember that?)

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.1.13  Krishna  replied to  Hallux @3.1.9    4 months ago
Where's Maxwell when we need him?

Well, probably some NT users don't have a Clue, but I think Maxwell's in the Aviary with Colonel Mustard, banging on Occam's razor, poor fellow! 

(Either that...or Maxwell's back in school again, playing the fool again! jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Ronin2
PhD Quiet
3.2  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago

It is all they have.

They have to play it to the bitter, already predetermined, and futile end. Their media shills will broadcast their "investigation" wall to wall making each witness and remark more sensational than the last. Of course they will accomplish jack shit of nothing; other than wasting tax payer money- and making anyone with a functioning brain cell not suffering from rampant TDS hate politicians and the media even more.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    4 months ago

People who will hate the media and Congress more because there is an investigation into Jan 6th are no better than traitors. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
3.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    4 months ago

Oh please, spare us the overwrought emotionalistic bullshit..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.2    4 months ago

we all saw what happened on jan 6th.  they need to call mc carthy, jared kushner, ivanka, peter navarro, giuliani, don jr, and trump himself, all up to testify before this committee. also jim jordan,  boebert, and marjorie greene to see if they were part of a conspiracy. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.4  author  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.2    4 months ago

Spare us the derail and more denial of facts!

The brave men who preserved our freedom on January 6th are testifying. So, listen up!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
3.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.2.4    4 months ago
The brave men who preserved our freedom on January 6th

Brave men I agree. Did you miss the part about the dumbasses actually getting into the Capitol? And I'll ask you once again, if they were a real threat and were on 'a mission" to overthrow our "freedom" why did they stop? It wasn't like they were outnumbered by LEO's. They didn't go with the intent that you and others want to believe as you clutch your pearls. Unless of course they are the dumbest asses on the planet. Even the Neanderthals in the middle east and Africa and Asia know what it takes for pull that off and these people didn't have a chance in hell of doing it. I think they actually surprised themselves when they actually got in. There was a lot of milling and gawking for a group of "insurrectionists"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.5    4 months ago

Someone needs to ask the question of the insurrectionists what their purpose was that day. I think they were there to stop the certification of the election, but that's just an opinion

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
3.2.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.6    4 months ago

I can't and won't disagree. They just didn't think that through real well or they wouldn't have failed to do so. Which I am happy to say they did fail.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.8  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.7    4 months ago

Don't you get dizzy spinning away like that?

You can't minimize what happened Jan 6th!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
3.2.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.2.8    4 months ago

What did I spin there.....................

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.10  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.9    4 months ago

You are dismissive of what was a real threat!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.6    4 months ago

One moron and his mom - said they did it at trumpturd's direction.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
3.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.2.10    4 months ago
I can't and won't disagree. They just didn't think that through real well or they wouldn't have failed to do so. Which I am happy to say they did fail.

So agreeing with TG was being dismissive? Don't see it....................

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
3.2.13  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.11    4 months ago
said they did it at trumpturd's direction

So explain to use EXACTLY when and what Trump said for those morons to raid the capitol.

You do realize these idiots are trying to cover their asses, right?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.2.14  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    4 months ago
making each witness and remark more sensational than the last

Or-- maybe they called witness who tell the truth-- like the four D.C. police officers who were actually there-- and described what actually went down.

Did you watch that BTW?

Or are you by any chance one of those Blue Lives Don't Matter crowd? (Not that there's anything wrong with that).

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.2.15  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.2    4 months ago

Oh please, spare us the overwrought emotionalistic bullshit..

So what would you prefer then-- understated emotionalistic bullshit?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.2.16  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    4 months ago
They have to play it to the bitter, already predetermined, and futile end. Their media shills will broadcast their "investigation" wall to wall making each witness and remark more sensational than the last. Of course they will accomplish jack shit of nothing; other than wasting tax payer money- and making anyone with a functioning brain cell not suffering from rampant TDS hate politicians and the media even more.

Well, I'm not saying that your comment sounds like its full of sound and fury . . . signifying...nothing!

However after reading that possibly sordid tail,  it I do wonder-- did you have a chance to watch the hearings today?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.2.17  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.2.16    4 months ago
However after reading that possibly sordid tail,  it I do wonder-- did you have a chance to watch the hearings today?

I didn't have a chance to check-- but did Fox news actaully carry them-- or did they instead program some trivia today?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Senior Silent
3.2.18  SteevieGee  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.5    4 months ago

Their 'leader' was a no show so they didn't know what to do.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3  author  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago

That isn't working Vic! We saw it with our own eyes!

original

 
 
 
Ronin2
PhD Quiet
3.3.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.3    4 months ago

Goebbels would be very proud of today's media and left. Keep repeating the same outrageous lie often enough and TDS sufferers will have no problem believing it.

As for seeing things with your own eyes. Where the hell have you guys been for the last five plus years of left wing "mostly peaceful" rioters damaging Federal property; and assaulting Federal officers? None of you gave a rat's ass about those things until Jan 6th. Then you freaked the fuck out. The Jan 6th rioters are being treated far more harshly than any of your left wing terrorists; most of whom are being released by the corrupt DOJ. You have no damn problem with that either.

Take your false morality and crocodile tears elsewhere. We have seen this song and dance 3 times already from Democrats. Come up with a new damn act for once at least!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.2  author  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @3.3.1    4 months ago

That line of bs would make Tokyo Rose blush.

original

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.3.2    4 months ago

Whose foot is that?

 
 
 
Ronin2
PhD Quiet
3.3.4  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.3.2    4 months ago

Show me anywhere in my statement that I claimed that the Jan 6th riot didn't occur; or that Federal officers weren't injured and Federal property damaged?

Now justify the shear undeniable hypocrisy of Pelosi, Democrats, the left, media, and rampant TDS sufferers that didn't give a fuck about any of the Federal officers injured or Federal property damaged and destroyed during the last 5 plus years of leftist rioting. In fact many Democrats egged the rioters on! 

If Democrats cared so damn much; why haven't they demanded their shill DOJ prosecute those leftist rioters to the full extent of the law; instead of releasing the majority of them w/o charges? Two tier justice systems are Third World despot bullshit; but the left seems fine with it so long as the it is the right that has to adhere to the law and not them.

This is nothing more than a Democrat show for rampant TDS sufferers. They tried this shit 3 times already; it is damn well time for a new act! They have nothing to hang their hats on for mid terms. Their policies are going to get them shit canned and they know it. The most they can hope for is to keep Jan 6th dominating the news cycle until after mid terms are over. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.5  author  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.3    4 months ago

An injured police officer's foot from Jan 6th.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.3.5    4 months ago

Thanks.

That looks pretty bad. They probably should have stitched it

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.7  author  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.6    4 months ago

Are you watching? Officers are laying it open. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.3.7    4 months ago

No, I'm not

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.9  author  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.8    4 months ago

Then catch the highlights when you can. The testimony of officers injured is stunning. All of the fluffing off of how serious it really was is disgraceful. 180 officers were injured...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.3.9    4 months ago

I probably will if I watch the evening news tonite

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago

Rational human beings AREN'T being deceived that way.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
3.5  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago
They think the public will forget open borders, run away inflation, teaching racism in our schools

You can't forget what never happened.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
3.5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  pat wilson @3.5    4 months ago

You're in denial

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.5.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3.5.1    4 months ago

Yes, you are.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
3.6  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago

No matter how much you pound away with your talking points, the public has acute memory loss after 5 minutes. If that were not the case you would not be tripping over the latest dead horse in haste to kick it.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.7  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago
Oh, this is the political stunt they are going to try and will the midterms with?

Hopefully!

(Although there are also several others they have on their side...especially how Trump his sycophants denied the virus at first!

Remember when Sean Hannity said this about the virus:

This is the Democrats latest hoax!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
3.8  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago
They think the public will forget open borders, run away inflation, teaching racism in our schools via Jan 6th? 

I see that once again you are resorting to the time-honoured derail technique of "Whattaboudism". Most people here have already figured that out (although there are still here that will fall for it and take those comments seriously...thereby ostensibly giving them some credibility...???)

BTW-- any comments about the horrendous violence during the Boer War?

How about the horrible atrocities the Japanese carried out in China?  

Oh look-- another squirrel!!!

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

(/sarcasm)

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
4  Just Jim NC TttH    4 months ago
"A Trumpian mob of thousands egged on by Trump himself

You put WAAAAYYY too much stock in what those people were capable of that day. Had they tried what all on the left want to believe and even shown that they could do it, their blood would have stained those hallowed halls for a long time to come.

Have you figured out yet why they stopped? The knew it was an exercise in futility FFS. In another 15 minutes there would have been hellfire in the guise of the military and reserve military and police like that building has never and will never see.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4    4 months ago

Are you watching the hearing? You have it all wrong!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Krishna  replied to  JBB @4.1    4 months ago
Are you watching the hearing? You have it all wrong!

I was very busy so I didn't have to check-- but I wouldn't be surprised if Fox deliberately didn't cover the hearings at all!

(Or perhaps they showed the committee members comments-- but "inadvertantly" did not carry the actual testimony of the 4 D.C. police officers (who were actually there! during the insurrection!!).

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
4.2  pat wilson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4    4 months ago
their blood would have stained those hallowed halls for a long time to come.

Their feces and urine certainly stained those halls.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
4.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  pat wilson @4.2    4 months ago

Says who? Were you there?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.2  author  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2.1    4 months ago

Discuss the hearing or please move along...

We are discussing the live Jan 6th Hearing.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2.1    4 months ago
Were you there?

... were you?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2.1    4 months ago
Says who? Were you there?

Were you?

jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.4    4 months ago

Says who? Were you there?

Were you?

Because if you are as interested in the actual facts as you claim, here's the testimony of someone who was.

A brave member of the D.C. Police!

D.C. Police Officer Gonell Slams Trump's Comments: 'I'm Still Recovering From Those Hugs And Kisses'

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
4.3  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4    4 months ago
You put WAAAAYYY too much stock in what those people were capable of that day.

I don't know the totality of "what people were capable of that day"!

But watching the testimony today (as I'm sure a well-informed person such as yourself did) of 4 D.C. Police Officers who were there and telling what they experienced ....I think its now obvious that  "many people" are aware of what the insurrectionists actually did!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Rep Jeremy Raskin just said the rioters at the Capitol , aka Trump supporters, are "fascist traitors". 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

Indeed!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago
Rep Jeremy Raskin

Well that settles it then.   A guy who voted to overturn the 2016 election in Congress and lied about and exploited Officer Sicknick's death just oozes credibility.  

How do you not roll your eyes at this? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    4 months ago

I roll my eyes more and more at you as the days weeks and months pass by. 

Why did Trump, on the afternoon of Jan 6th, after watching the riot on television for hours, tell his supporters to "remember this day forever."?   When Trump said those words on twitter, he knew that his supporters had broke down doors and windows to illegally enter the Capitol Building, fought with police, carried at least one confederate flag into the building, and attempted to enter both the Senate itself, and the floor of the House of Representatives,  and used an American flag to try and beat police officers. He knew all that and probably a lot more, as McCarthy had told him things were out of hand. 

And yet Trump praised the rioters devotion to his cause and told them to remember the day forever.  Sean, what the fuck is wrong with Donald Trump TO THIS DAY ? 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
5.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    4 months ago
How do you not roll your eyes at this?

Possibly because instead of speculating, he may have actually watched the hearing (that started today) and saw today's testimony...from four police officers who were actually there!

(Is that something you would roll your eyes at?)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6  Sean Treacy    4 months ago

What an exercise in ridiculous posturing...

The same people who've tried to overturn every recent Presidential election they've lost, claim elections are rigged or stolen, celebrated a months long orgy of violence against police officers and the federal government are now play acting at being offended that the other side finally acted like they've been doing all century.

Who falls for this? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 months ago

"Who falls for this?"

All the lies you just told?

No one.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.2  author  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 months ago

Are you saying those police officers are all lying?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Krishna  replied to  JBB @6.2    4 months ago
Are you saying those police officers are all lying?

Perhaps he didn't watch the hearing today and doesn't know what they actually said?

(Or perhaps he wasn't even aware that the hearings started today...with testimony from 4 police officer who were actually there?)

Or perhaps he's one of the new Republican "Blue Lives don't matter crowd"...although I find that to be doubtful!

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
6.3  Veronica  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 months ago

When has anyone stormed the Capital to stop certification of an election before Jan 6, 2021?  Specifics please.  Enlighten us to it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
6.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 months ago

How soon they forget............

Quite a list in that article...........and that was just the beginning of June 2020..................

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
6.4.1  Veronica  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4    4 months ago

Were any of them a storming of the Capital to prevent the certification of an election?  THAT is what this article is about.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4    4 months ago

What do all those riots have to do with what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6?

Jayzus! I was cursed out yesterday by one of your fellow travelers for deflecting from the topic

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4.3  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4    4 months ago

Thanks for displaying intellectual honesty /S.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.4.4  Tessylo  replied to  Veronica @6.4.1    4 months ago

All they have obviously is projection, deflection, and denial.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.4.5  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.2    4 months ago

There is a squirrel among us..LOL512

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.4.6  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.2    4 months ago

it's the standard but, but, but what about defense...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
6.4.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.2    4 months ago

Sorry but I don't believe that I was addressing you or your friends with that post. And all it has to do with is the outrage at one "faction" who screwed up the Capitol building and grounds possibly with all that went on the previous summer that destroyed more properties, businesses, livelihoods, and lives than Jan. 6.

I don't condone what happened on that date any more than I condone what happened last summer. Only difference I can see is that the left thinks they can tie this on Trump. PERIOD.

And before you get all holier than thou, I ain't buying the insurrection narrative. They didn't want the certification, as you so aptly observed, granted. They were just too fucking stupid to know they couldn't and wouldn't be able to. They proved their lack of intelligence doing what they did. And now, some 500 or more are paying the price for being morons. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4.8  author  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @6.4.4    4 months ago

Just Jim's line of crap is plain old pathetic...

Men should be embarrassed selling manure.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.4.9  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.7    4 months ago

We can tie this on The Turd Reich because he is the one who instigated and spurred on his insurrectionist mob for months, PERIOD!

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
6.4.10  pat wilson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.7    4 months ago
I ain't buying the insurrection narrative.

140 police officers injured that day.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4.11  author  JBB  replied to  Kavika @6.4.5    4 months ago

If these January 6th Deniers get any more squirrelly they must get a moose sidekick...

original

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
6.4.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  pat wilson @6.4.10    4 months ago

Might want to check that with jbb as she says 180.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.4.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.7    4 months ago

Doesn't matter who you were addressing. I seem to get that a lot when I tell someone I wasn't talking to them. This is a public forum. If you put something out there expect it to be addressed by a variety of people that you "weren't addressing".

As for paragraphs 2 I agree to a point. I do think trmp had a hand in this. Unfortunately I can't prove it.

Paragraph 3 I completely agree except I do believe it was a poorly planned, not well thought out insurrection

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4.14  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.12    4 months ago

It was 180 injured including the militarily...

Would it be okay if only 140 were injured?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
6.4.15  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.13    4 months ago

I would hope even these fools would know for a real insurrection/coup to take place, you're gonna need the military. I guess they thought going all Rambo was enough???

I refuse to believe that they are that stupid. Just moronic.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.4.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.15    4 months ago
I guess they thought going all Rambo was enough???

Of course they did! Look at the way some of them were dressed. Like they thought they were going to war or something. I'm just very glad nobody had any firearms

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.4.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.12    4 months ago

JBB is male

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4.18  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.15    4 months ago

Is attempted murder forgiven because it fails?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4.19  author  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.17    4 months ago

Liz Cheney just rubbed her balls on Jim's BS...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
6.4.20  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.17    4 months ago

Reading the articles and comments put forward, easy mistake. Apologies.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.4.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.20    4 months ago

Apologize to JBB

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
6.4.22  Greg Jones  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.15    4 months ago

Why the belated faux support of LE?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
6.4.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Greg Jones @6.4.22    4 months ago

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
6.4.24  Greg Jones  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.4.23    4 months ago

Comment directed to someone else.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.4.25  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @6.4.22    4 months ago

oops

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
6.4.26  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.2    4 months ago
What do all those riots have to do with what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6?

In response to your question:

It's one form of derail...specifically, its the from of derail called "Whattaboutism".

When people start using it, its a clear sign that they've just realized that they are losing the argument.jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
6.4.27  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.13    4 months ago

 I do think trmp had a hand in this. Unfortunately I can't prove it.

In the unlikely event that someone would want to prove it-- a good starting point would be to watch the video of Trump addressing the crowd that day...right before they starting walking to the Capitol.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
6.4.28  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.4.17    4 months ago
JBB is male

As mentioned here before-- do not post actual facts. 

It upsets people when they try to derail a conversation...actual facts cause many of them to become confused and angry!

(Be kind to the moderators here...they are dedicated but overworked-- they don't need more angry fools to deal with!)

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.4.29  devangelical  replied to  JBB @6.4.11    4 months ago

I don't know about a whole moose, but there was part of one contaminating the place earlier.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
6.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 months ago
The same people who've tried to overturn every recent Presidential election they've lost

Hillary Clinton conceded 11/09/2016.

John Kerry conceded 11/03/2004

Even when the number of votes separating the two candidates were a mere 537 Al Gore conceded 12/13/2000.

Donald Trump, conceited.

claim elections are rigged or stolen

That would be Republicans. Democrats merely claimed in the 2016 election that Trump won with the aid of the Russian government which is an irrefutable fact. Few were making any sort of claim that the election was "rigged" or "stolen", they just pointed out that the millions Russia spent on fake ads did have an effect on the gullible who make up the majority of Trumps base.

celebrated a months long orgy of violence against police officers

Total bullshit. Democrats were not celebrating the riots, they were disgusted by them and regularly condemned the 8% of protests that were turned violent, often by right wing infiltrators and instigators like the Boogaloo bois who shot cops, planned bombings and tried to create chaos wherever they went. And none of those riots last year were an attempt to stop our congress from doing its constitutional duty to certify the results of an election which was the clear intent of the right wing bigots and useless scum bag pieces of shit that attacked our capital on January 6th.

the federal government are now play acting at being offended

There is no "play acting" going on, our halls of congress were threatened, our capital police officers were beaten with flag poles, pepper sprayed, punched, kicked and tazed by vile disgusting right wing extremists who were attempting to overturn the results of an election and stop the constitutional duty of our legislators. Anyone who loves the constitution and America knows this was a very serious crime and should warrant the maximum punishment under the law. Only those sniveling traitors and deplorable bigots who beg for scraps from Putin's table and metaphorically hump the fat leg of the wannabe fascist despot Donald would try to downplay their attempted insurrection.

Your attempt at equivalence is like comparing apples and orangutans, but I guess that's all some can muster when they don't have facts, truth or reality backing up their baseless claims.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.5.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.5    4 months ago

illary Clinton conceded 11/09/2016.

Lol. As if that was the issue I was talking about... You also missed Clinton still calling Trump's Win illegitimate. 

But thanks for providing the classically dishonest response, where you ignore everything except the .isolated facts that you think help your case.  Just pretend the riots, the conspiracy theories, the lawsuits, the votes to overturn the elections,  the claims of stolen elections never happened.

ats merely claimed in the 2016 election that Trump won with the aid of the Russian government

How dishonest can you get? Were you not alive in 2000, 2004 or for the Georgia gubernatorial  elections?  For fucks sake, you still have people on this very board claiming Trump stole the election by stealing states from Clinton. Not to mention the MAJORTIY of Democratic voters who believe Russia manipulated vote counts.

You are making my case for me. The same people who engaged, and continue to engage in these shenanigans now lie about them having occurred and still expect to be taken seriously. Why is it so hard for you to admit what any sentient adult remembers, that Democrats have engaged in numerous conspiracies about elections and tried to overturn elections and supported rioters that injured in hundreds of police? 

emocrats were not celebrating the riots, they were disgusted by them and regularly condemned the 8% of protests that were turned violent

Guess you forgot KAmela Harris and many others democrats worked to get the terrorists out of jail. Another fact democrats now want to pretend never happened. 

And the8% thing is comedy exemplified. Less than 2% of the election protests turned violent.  

here is no "play acting" going on

So you are the person  who thinks people like Raskin and Schiff have principles. I knew someone, somewhere, must fall for what is clearly opportunistic Bs. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
6.5.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.5.1    4 months ago
Lol. As if that was the issue I was talking about... You also missed Clinton still calling Trump's Win illegitimate. 

You claimed that Democrats have "tried to overturn every recent Presidential election they've lost". The loser who has already conceded and allowed the peaceful transfer of power to happen saying a year later than their opponents win was "illegitimate" after overwhelming evidence comes out of illicit foreign government meddling in our election is a far cry from trying "to overturn" an election. Riling up supporters and telling them to march down to the Capital where the election is about to be certified telling them "We will stop the steal" and "You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore." and "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore", then watching those people at the rally head to the Capital and attack it, beating police, breaking windows and doors, shouting "Hang Mike Pence" while searching for members of congress with zip ties in hand, spraying officers with bear pepper spray, using tazers on police, breaking into legislators offices and looting and vandalizing a government building all while they are simply trying to do their constitutional duty of certifying election results, that is attempting to overturn an election.

How dishonest can you get? 

I've been completely honest, you're simply refusing to accept actual facts.

Were you not alive in 2000, 2004 or for the Georgia gubernatorial  elections?

I was there and voted in all those elections and nothing like January 6th or like dishonest Donald's refusal to concede ever happened. Only someone completely detached from reality would believe otherwise.

you still have people on this very board claiming Trump stole the election by stealing states from Clinton.

That is not something I hear here or anywhere. I hear lots of facts about Russian meddling which did happen, it's established fact, but I hear nothing about supposed "stolen States".

 the MAJORTIY of Democratic voters who believe Russia manipulated vote counts

Well that's just utter hogwash. While Russia manipulated gullible conservatives and independents who bought into their lies about Hillary Clinton, there has never been any evidence that Russia actually manipulated vote counts and thus it's not an accusation I hear from anyone on the left since we live in reality, not fantasy conservative La La land where every ones heads are shoved up their asses.

You are making my case for me.

Not even remotely.

The same people who engaged, and continue to engage in these shenanigans now lie about them having occurred and still expect to be taken seriously.

Pure hyperbolic opinion without a shred of actual evidence.

Why is it so hard for you to admit what any sentient adult remembers

Perhaps you meant 'senile adult' as I don't see many 'sentient adults' on the right. I'm stating facts with verifiable dates to back them up, those were factually when the Democrats who lost elections conceded and allowed a peaceful transfer of power without trying to rile up any crowds of their supporters to try and "stop the steal" as Trump has done. Your claim of equivalence is total horse shit and you know it.

that Democrats have engaged in numerous conspiracies about elections

There have been an occasional left wing nutter like Maxine Waters who has speculated about some conspiracy theory from the right in regards to election results, they are not in the mainstream, they do not represent the majority of Democrats, progressives or liberals. And they are definitely not the candidate in question continuing a fantasy lie about winning an election they lost in a fucking landslide and refusing to concede literally 9 months after the election and 7 months since his opponents has already been inaugurated.

So you are the person  who thinks people like Raskin and Schiff have principles.

They certainly have more spine and morals than almost any Republican in the congress or Senate.

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
6.5.3  Veronica  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.5.2    4 months ago

jrSmiley_28_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.5.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.5.2    4 months ago
ou claimed that Democrats have "tried to overturn every recent Presidential election they've lost"

They did.. At the very least, I'd hope you know "conceding" has no legal status or meaning,  and that the Democratic Party consists of more than the Presidential nominee, right?   Certainly, the concessions didn't stop the Democrats from claiming the elections were stolen, spreading conspiracies,  fighting in Court,  trying to stop Congress from certifying the vote etc...

They haven't lost an election honorably since 1988. 

ou're simply refusing to accept actual facts.

[Deleted] I've accepted every fact and based my argument on them.  You continue to ignore everything but two statements. [Deleted.

This isn't debatable, which is why you aren't making much of an attempt to. The "accepted facts" are the Democrats have challenged every recent Presidential election they've lost. They've claimed fraud and vote tampering, baselessly. They spent years lying about the President being a traitor and conspiring with a foreign power to steal an election. None of this deniable, and it's shocking any adult would try and pretend it didn't happen.

Every time they've lost, Democrats have attacked the integrity of the election and tried to undermine the legitimacy of the Republican who won. Those are facts. 

Pure hyperbolic opinion without a shred of actual evidence.

[Deleted] Rankin voted  to not certify the 2016 election.  That's a fact.And the same people who shill for liars like Rankin (lying about Sicknick's death was really pathetic) claim any Republican who opposed election certification is a traitor trying to overthrow the Republic.  I guess they aren't very smart, otherwise the cognitive dissonance would kill them.   S

they are not in the mainstream, they do not represent the majority of Democrats, progressives or liberals. 

That's a lie. A majority of Democrats, as I said, believed Russia tampered with votes in 2016. 

nly have more spine and morals than almost any Republican in the congress or Senate.

I hope you get paid to shill for Adam Schiff.. Otherwise...oof. 

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
6.5.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.5.4    4 months ago
They did.. At the very least, I'd hope you know "conceding" has no legal status or meaning

It certainly does have a 'meaning', it's one candidate admitting to the world and their opponent that they lost and their opponent won. It's a tradition in elections that has been going on for hundreds of years.

" The first time in the United States that a candidate lost a presidential election and privately conceded was Federalist John Adams to Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson in 1800. In 1860, Democrat Stephen Douglas conceded to Republican Abraham Lincoln with the words: 'Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism."

" A concession, usually in the form of a concession speech, is considered a matter of courtesy and a gracious celebration of American democracy that helps with the  peaceful transition of power"

"Donald Trump  has been an exception to the tradition of concession in American presidential politics, refusing to concede defeat and declaring victory for himself despite having lost both the popular vote and electoral college in the  2020 United States presidential election ."

So for 220 years every Presidential candidate who lost the election has conceded when it was clear they lost the election, all but the Tangerine Mussolini.

" the concessions didn't stop the Democrats from claiming the elections were stolen, spreading conspiracies,  fighting in Court,  trying to stop Congress from certifying the vote etc"

All legal challenges actually stopped after the candidates conceded so claiming "fighting in court" is an outright blatant lie and the claim of "trying to stop congress from certifying the vote" can only be claimed because a few nutjobs like Maxine Waters who had virtually ZERO support from the rest of her own party stood up and protested the certification but had exactly ZERO ability to stop anything. Saying "This is unfair" is a lot different then sending thousands of your goon squad supporters to attack the capital and actually interrupt the constitutionally mandated certification process. 

Just admit it, nothing like this has ever been seen in America before. People can claim equivalence all they like but it simply makes them look like uneducated morons with chronic traumatic encephalopathy living in a fantasy reality of their own making.

They haven't lost an election honorably since 1988.

That's just more pure bullshit. Did you invest heavily in products made of bullshit? Because you seem to have an endless supply.

" Democrats have challenged every recent Presidential election they've lost. They've claimed fraud and vote tampering, baselessly. They spent years lying about the President being a traitor and conspiring with a foreign power to steal an election. None of this deniable, and it's shocking any adult would try and pretend it didn't happen."

Total bullshit. Kerry conceded the morning after the election and did not challenge the election results. Gore challenged the results because of how close it was in Florida and was just 537 votes apart and there were obvious issues with the ballots. But the day after the Supreme Court ruled on the case he conceded and no further challenges were made. After Hillary conceded just a week after the election there were no further legal challenges made.

I found this interesting, in the week after the 2016 election the DNC did challenge the election results claiming voter intimidation but it was clear that Republicans had already believed they were going to lose as Roger Stone had already created a group called "Stop the Steal".

" The Democrats biggest victory in the current round of cases came Friday, when a federal judge in Ohio granted an injunction against Trump's campaign, as well as Trump backer Roger Stone and a related group called 'Stop the Steal "

That was from 11/7/2016 just 2 days before Hillary conceded. Pretty funny how they had to wait four years before pulling out that lie again.

Oh, and if that's not enough irony for you, guess what? Republicans have been challenging elections every time they have lost as well. Republican hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.

McCain claimed Democrats were “now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.” and said Senator Barack Obama, is trying to “steal” the election through groups like Acorn.

After Romney loss:  "Sen. Ted Cruz is among a group of GOP senators that said they will oppose the certification of Electoral College votes on Wednesday during a joint session of Congress that is usually procedural."

In a statement expressing opposition to Trump’s efforts to block President-elect Joe Biden’s 2020 victory, though, a group of House Republicans did exactly that. Reps. Thomas Massie (Ky.), Kelly Armstrong (N.D.), Ken Buck (Colo.), Mike Gallagher (Wis.), Nancy Mace (S.C.), Tom McClintock (Calif.) and Chip Roy (Tex.)   released   a statement that included this paragraph:

“From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years . They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes — based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election — we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.”
Republicans know the majority of Americans do not like them and will never vote for them. Their only path to victory is adding restrictive voting laws and challenging election results in battleground states in a desperate attempt to win enough electoral college votes. They do not represent America, they do not speak for America, they are a minority in America and they know it which is why they use such tactics and support such giant pieces of shit like Donald Trump. 
A majority of Democrats, as I said, believed Russia tampered with votes in 2016. 

There was a single online poll done in 2018 by a British online pollster (online polls are historically inaccurate for obvious reasons) that claimed 67% of Democrats polled thought it was either "probably true" or "definitely true" that Russia tampered with vote tallies. Only 28% said they believed it was "definitely true". When compared to the 56% of Republicans believe the insane QAnon conspiracy theories are "mostly or partly true" it shows that there are even dumber dip-shits in the Republican party who believe really stupid shit.

I hope you get paid to shill for Adam Schiff.. Otherwise...oof. 

I'd much rather be defending hard working patriotic congressmen and women than have my head shoved up Trumps ass while giving Putin a hand job like many Trump sycophants.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.5.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.5.5    4 months ago
It certainly does have a 'meaning', it's one candidate admitting to the world and their

It has no legal meaning which is why AL Gore could offer one and it retract it at will.

But again, the dishonest nature of your argument is clear. You wield the meaningless concession by the candidate and pretend the actions by rest of the party and it's allies didn't occur. Be honest. You aren't fooling anyone since we all remember the claims that votes were stolen, the attempts to stop certification in Congress, trying to convince EC voters to betray their state's voters and vote for the losing Democrat, holding  Congressional investigations to question the legitimacy of a state's vote count, the lawsuits,  and doing everything possible to undermine the legitimacy of the duly elected Republican President. 

To deny those things is to deny reality. 

ll legal challenges actually stopped after the candidates concede

No they don't.  Where do you get this stuff?  There was a lawsuit pending in Ohio as late as 2006 for instance. 

id you invest heavily in products made of bullshit? Because you seem to have an endless supply.

Now that's some projection. Granted, since you can't point to a Presidential election the Democrats lost honorably since 1988, deflection and personal attacks are your only option, if you can't be honest. 

cCain claimed Democrats were

Now you really are getting dishonest.  Trying to pass off  what McCain said before the election instead of his actual relevant actions, you know, after he lost. By all means, provide any evidence of McCain calling Obama illigirmate or claiming the election was stolen.

We both know you won't do that, don't we?

  "Sen. Ted Cruz is among a group of GOP senators that said they will oppose

 And you fail, yet again, because Cruz did not oppose certification.

atement expressing opposition to Trump’s efforts to block President-elect Joe Biden’s 2020 victor

Yes, the Republicans did what the Democrats did the last three times they lost and objected to certification. Do you believe that's some gotcha? I said the Republicans did that.

I have no problem admitting reality. You should try. 

nline poll done in 2018 by a British online pollste

Yougov is ranked a B+ pollster(the same as Gallup)  by 538 with a slight democratic bias. You are barking up the wrong tree.

 rather be defending hard working patriotic congressmen

I suppose if you support Putin, Schiff would be considered  very patriotic. He did yeoman's work for the Russians lying about FISA, shilling for the Russian hoax Steele dossier etc...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7  author  JBB    4 months ago

"A peaceful transfer of power did not happen"...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
8  Greg Jones    4 months ago

 In spite of a few hundred protestors, a peaceful transfer of power did happen.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.1  author  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @8    4 months ago

Except, it was not peaceful, 180 police officers were injured, and there were thousands of insurgents...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @8    4 months ago

If it was only 'a few hundred' trumpturd mob/insurrectionists - how is it that over 600 have been charged and there are still more to go?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
8.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Tessylo @8.2    4 months ago

For goodness sake don't use actual facts, that will really fuck up their heads.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    4 months ago

wait until a data base of the insurrectionist's info gets published. bwah ha ha ha...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.3  author  JBB  replied to  Kavika @8.2.1    4 months ago

Yes, were I come from it is a big insult to lie to people's faces especially when everyone involved knows they are straight up lying...

I come from America. Americans hate liars!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.4  author  JBB  replied to  devangelical @8.2.2    4 months ago

Of 600 arrested ZERO were ANTIFA or BLM...

In fact, 100% of them are certified Trumpers!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
8.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    4 months ago
over 600 have been charged and there are still more to go?

540 but who's counting. But you are correct in your "more to go" as they  say 300 have yet to be identified.

Please keep facts in view.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.6  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.2.5    4 months ago

Did you miss Greg's comment number eight?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
8.2.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @8.2.6    4 months ago

No didn't miss it. Why do you ask?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.8  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.2.7    4 months ago

If you knew then why the childish quibbling?

Grow up and comment honestly or move on.

I resent that you habitually troll my articles...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Senior Principal
8.2.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @8.2.8    4 months ago
I resent that you habitually troll my articles...

I don't troll any articles. I look at the subject matter and comment accordingly due to my POV.

So anyone who doesn't see eye to eye is "trolling your articles"? If you weren't quite so emotional, perhaps you could see that I try to discuss first and then, when shit gets thrown my way, I throw shit back. Sorry. Accept your part in this too. Thanks.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.10  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.2.9    4 months ago

original

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
8.2.11  Veronica  replied to  JBB @8.2.10    4 months ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
8.2.12  bugsy  replied to  JBB @8.2.4    4 months ago
In fact, 100% of them are certified Trumpers!

For the millionth time, show your proof of this.

You never have before, so I'm not expecting anything different.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
8.2.13  bugsy  replied to  JBB @8.2.8    4 months ago
Grow up and comment honestly of move on.

You should have used this advice for comment 8.2.4

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.14  author  JBB  replied to  bugsy @8.2.12    4 months ago

It is a fact that none were BLM or ANTIFA...

The fact is you cannot prove that fact wrong.

Your side, the gop, can't demand boo squat!

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
8.2.15  bugsy  replied to  JBB @8.2.14    4 months ago

I never made that accusation.

YOU, on the other hand, DID make the accusation that all of the rioters were Trump supporters.

My advice to you is to just admit you fucked up and made a bullshit statement

You would feel better by doing so.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.2.16  Ender  replied to  bugsy @8.2.12    4 months ago

Denial. Not just a river in Egypt. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.17  author  JBB  replied to  Ender @8.2.16    4 months ago

No, but you can see pyramids to the East...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.18  author  JBB  replied to  bugsy @8.2.15    4 months ago

That there is what injured Capitol Police Officer Fanone called "Disgraceful Indifference".

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
8.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @8    4 months ago
In spite of a few hundred protestors, a peaceful transfer of power did happen.

I think what you meant to say, at least if you're trying to speak truth, was:

"In spite of several thousand right wing insurgents, a transfer of power did happen."

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.4  author  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @8    4 months ago

For your personal edification you must read this.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
8.5  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @8    4 months ago
In spite of a few hundred protestors,

And how about the cops who suffered injuries..many severe..that day?

(Or did you now watch the officers who testified at the hearing today?)

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
8.6  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @8    4 months ago
In spite of a few hundred protestors, a peaceful transfer of power did happen.

Trump said there were over a million. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9  author  JBB    4 months ago

original

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @9    4 months ago

psssttttt.....the quartering usually caused the death. When they remove your entrails and show them to you, you don't live much longer after that. But I think they castrate you before they disembowel you

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1    4 months ago

If Roman coups failed they fell on their swords.

Or, drank poison, if they didn't want their family to all be killed and their property forfeited...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1    4 months ago
But I think they castrate you before they disembowel you

Shhh... don't give the insurrectionists any ideas!!! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

(Those who weren't apprehended yet may try something similar again...yes, some of them are that crazy!!!)

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10  Kavika     4 months ago

512

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Masters Guide
10.1  Drakkonis  replied to  Kavika @10    4 months ago

Actually, there's another, more valid reason to oppose the commission. You probably know this but your desire for emotional satisfaction doesn't allow you to admit it, even to yourself. That other reason is that...

B. This is political theater in pursuit of a political goal, not an actual commission to find the truth. This is easily proven by knowing the prosecution is also the presiding judge. The same people who have been demanding Trump's head on a pole are the ones conducting the "investigation" in order to arrive at the "truth" they've already predetermined. Quite notably, anyone not with that program was not allowed on the commission. 

But the goal isn't Trump. Some of you may believe that it is, but it's not. The goal is much bigger than that. The goal is to fix in the minds of the American people that Trump represents the entirety of the right. The more people they can get to think in that way the easier it will be to enact their own policies. Although an oversimplification, it's  essentially the idea that, because Trump is a bad man, therefore, our policies are good. Any critical thinker knows one doesn't follow from the other but that's not really relevant to the plan and they work hard to keep people from looking to hard at it. That's why they appeal to emotion so much. They want you to emotionally attach anything the right tries to do with Trump, whether it's true or logical to do so, so that Dems can more easily move the country in their desired direction. 

This should scare the crap out of any person who can think rationally. This is exactly the way the Communists conducted business. Remember the story of the USSR's Kulaks? You can read about it here but, basically, due to Communist mismanagement, people were starving. Kulaks, who were farmers were made the scapegoats. Persecution began and many were killed or put in gulags, their farms confiscated and turned into collectives. The result was greater starvation because the people who knew how to farm were all gone and unskilled labor was trying to grow all the food. 

Point is, through propaganda and political theater directed against the Kulaks they caused the Soviet people to act against their own interests, causing even more suffering. At least, for the majority not part of the elite. 

For the record, I don't think it would be any different if it were the Republicans who were running the commission. That, too, would just be political theater, although I don't think it would be as egregiously so. Regardless, it wouldn't arrive at the truth, either. It would just serve to appeal to those who already believed they knew the truth. If Justice is actually what anyone wants (which we don't have a hope in hell of achieving because of the politics) then if Trump did break a law, try him in an actual court of law. This Commission is just a court of public opinion that won't change anyone's already held opinions on the matter. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drakkonis @10.1    4 months ago

Good points.

There is however one important announcement that came out of today's TV drama:

"The panel plans to go beyond security failures to look at  communications between Congress and the executive branch  and examine the role of individuals in the events. Mr. Thompson has said the panel won’t hesitate to subpoena members of Congress or Mr. Trump and will try to enforce the subpoenas in court if necessary."



Can you imagine the people they would subpoena? They will seek to embarass the former President and his family and anyone who worked for him plus their percieved enemies across the aisle. Get ready for some of the most vicious tactics since the Kavanaugh hearings. They fear another Trump candidacy. This was all planned out and it will be another national disgrace.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Drakkonis @10.1    4 months ago
Actually, there's another, more valid reason to oppose the commission. You probably know this but your desire for emotional satisfaction doesn't allow you to admit it, even to yourself.

The old adage is not to make assumptions, I would recommend that you follow that adage since making any assumption about me makes you look like an ass. 

If looking and sounding like an ass is what you desire, please continue it's good entertainment for NT.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
10.1.3  pat wilson  replied to  Drakkonis @10.1    4 months ago
This Commission is just a court of public opinion that won't change anyone's already held opinions on the matter. 

So nothing to see or learn here, right ?

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Masters Guide
10.1.4  Drakkonis  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.1    4 months ago
They will seek to embarass the former President and his family and anyone who worked for him plus their percieved enemies across the aisle.

Yes, they will. Regardless how the leftists start off they ultimately end up like this, meaning public spectacles like this one where "enemies of the state" are tried in the court of public opinion. And people swallow it up, never noticing they've lost everything until after it's too late. Of course, the right has had it's moments as well. McCarthyism is a good example but, historically, it's more of a left thing. Manipulating the masses rather than adhere to something established, like the Constitution. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.1    4 months ago
There is however one important announcement that came out of today's TV drama: "The panel plans to go beyond security failures to look at  communications between Congress and the executive branch  and examine the role of individuals in the events. Mr. Thompson has said the panel won’t hesitate to subpoena members of Congress or Mr. Trump and will try to enforce the subpoenas in court if necessary." Can you imagine the people they would subpoena? They will seek to embarass the former President and his family and anyone who worked for him plus their percieved enemies across the aisle. Get ready for some of the most vicious tactics since the Kavanaugh hearings. They fear another Trump candidacy. This was all planned out and it will be another national disgrace.

Insanity has free rein on the political right in America these days. 

Independents and moderates, answer the call from your country and speak up !  We are in hand to hand combat for the future of our nation. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.5    4 months ago

Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff both said that high ups in the Trump administration  including Generalissimo Blowhard himself , and also GOP congressional figures, could be called to explain themselves.  

Let's go !  Enough with this right wing Jan 6th revisionist bullshit. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @10.1.4    4 months ago
Yes, they will. Regardless how the leftists start off they ultimately end up like this, meaning public spectacles like this one where "enemies of the state" are tried in the court of public opinion.

Are the mob members that entered the Senate and rifled through the papers on senators desks trying to find something to "use against" individual senators "enemies of the state",  or did they simply get lost while looking for a public bathroom during their "tour" of the Capitol Building ? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @10.1    4 months ago

You used a lot of words to basically say no one really knows what happened and we probably wont know so leave Trump alone you communist scum. 

Been there heard that. 

The most amazing thing about all this is, on Jan 6th and 7th, while the event was so fresh in everyones mind, almost every single Republican and conservative who spoke out on the matter condemned Donald Trump for inciting the riot with his insane "stop the steal" rhetoric. In the recent days and weeks though, we have been given the conservative revisionist version. Its all Pelosi's fault.  Trump had nothing to do with it, and the whole capitol riot was a "no harm , no foul" type of thing anyway.  The cops got hurt because there wasnt enough of them. Ashli Babbitt was an innocent concerned citizen. The "protest" was "peaceful". How come NO ONE thought it was peaceful while they were watching it on live tv ? 

I say fuck all the "conservatives" trying to bamboozle their way through this thing. 

And put Trump on the witness stand so we can watch him perjure himself 50 times. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
10.1.9  Krishna  replied to  Drakkonis @10.1    4 months ago
You probably know this but your desire for emotional satisfaction doesn't allow you to admit it, even to yourself.

How did you find that out?

Your psychic powers never cease to amaze!

How did you develop them?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
10.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.1    4 months ago
"The panel plans to go beyond security failures to look at  communications between Congress and the executive branch  and examine the role of individuals in the events. Mr. Thompson has said the panel won’t hesitate to subpoena members of Congress or Mr. Trump and will try to enforce the subpoenas in court if necessary."

If they were involved in the insurrection, should they NOT be investigated and punished? "Law and Order!!!", right? 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Masters Guide
10.1.11  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.7    4 months ago
Are the mob members that entered the Senate and rifled through the papers on senators desks trying to find something to "use against" individual senators "enemies of the state",  or did they simply get lost while looking for a public bathroom during their "tour" of the Capitol Building ? 

Well, in my opinion, they were basically idiots making crap up as they went along. The fact that they were even there tells you how clueless they were. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
10.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.1    4 months ago
They will seek to embarass the former President and his family

Easy way to avoid that is to not break the law, or, encourage your supporters to try to overthrow the US Government. Seems pretty simple to me. Same with Ashli Babbitt.. Had she not been there taking part, she would be alive today. Yes? Yes. 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Masters Guide
10.1.13  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.8    4 months ago
You used a lot of words to basically say no one really knows what happened and we probably wont know so leave Trump alone you communist scum. 

I said nothing like that. If you want to condense what I said into one sentence it would be this. The purpose of this commission is not to get to the truth, it is to make what happened look as bad as they can possibly make it look for the purpose of weakening their opposition thereby making it easier to advance their own agenda. What you are doing is ignoring that and introducing your straw man so you can justify the rest of what you say, since you apparently can't or won't address what I actually said. 

The most amazing thing about all this is, on Jan 6th and 7th, while the event was so fresh in everyones mind, almost every single Republican and conservative who spoke out on the matter condemned Donald Trump for inciting the riot with his insane "stop the steal" rhetoric. In the recent days and weeks though, we have been given the conservative revisionist version. Its all Pelosi's fault.  Trump had nothing to do with it, and the whole capitol riot was a "no harm , no foul" type of thing anyway.  The cops got hurt because there wasnt enough of them. Ashli Babbitt was an innocent concerned citizen. The "protest" was "peaceful". How come NO ONE thought it was peaceful while they were watching it on live tv ? 

Actually, most of it did look fairly peaceful while we were watching it live. That day, most of what we saw was people mostly walking around. Vids showing the more sensational violence didn't come out until the next day and continued to be revealed over time. As for the rest of what you say here I haven't written a word about the Republicans being the angels in all this. They're going to put their spin on it as much as they can but, since they aren't in charge they probably won't be able to control it as well. 

I say fuck all the "conservatives" trying to bamboozle their way through this thing. 

I'll take that to mean those who don't see it the way you do. Not sure what you expect me to do with that or if you think I didn't already know that. You want blood and you're not going to let a thing like truth get in the way of it. 

And put Trump on the witness stand so we can watch him perjure himself 50 times. 

Yes. I'm sure he will, since the standard for that perjury would be not pleading guilty to anything the Commission accuses him of. Please note that isn't saying the same thing as I think he isn't guilty of things. I think he is, although not necessarily in the legal sense. I'm simply continuing with my belief that this commission isn't interested in the truth. It is interested in making Trump and his supporters look like cannibalistic Aztecs sacrificing orphans on the alter of White Nationalism or some such thing. They are doing so purely for political purposes. But you believe what you want. 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Masters Guide
10.1.14  Drakkonis  replied to  Krishna @10.1.9    4 months ago

Because, I think when we are speaking of politics, we all know on some level the side we support, to whatever degree, puts out bullshit. Take Tucker Carlson, for instance. He brings up points I agree with, yet he finds it necessary to sometimes characterize it in ways that turns it into bullshit. Just like Chris Hays does. They all do it. They bring up a point about a need or a problem our country has but rather than discuss it they turn to talking about how rotten the other side is. That's because that's what politics is today. Not solving problems but to demonize the other side as hard as you can so your policies are enacted and not theirs. 

That's why I said I think you probably know this. There are a few people here who I think couldn't find their face if they looked into a mirror. I don't think you're one of them. Or do you actually believe everything the Dems are putting out about all this? All the talking heads? All of it? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @10.1.13    4 months ago

Whether you want to admit it right now or not, you have been a Trump supporter on this forum. I remember a post you made where you implied the Democrats are extreme leftists who would destroy the priceless traditions and God directed morals of our society. Trump was the odorous but necessary means of preventing the left from succeeding. 

Is the country remotely better off today then on the day Trump took office in 2017? Did he leave unquestionable success, or did he drag the country into constant and growing chaos?  He has two claims to achievement, one that he demanded and got from a republican Congress a massive tax cut that mainly went to the wealthy, and he was able to , by the twists of chance and fate, to place three conservative judges on the Supreme Court. This was done by no particular skill or knowledge of Trump, but rather by openings on the court beyond his control. 

What we got from Trump is daily chaos, which , let's face it, he loves and encourages. 

Our country is in a degraded condition, largely because of Trumpism. We need to put an end to it as soon as possible. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @10    4 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.1  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @10.2    4 months ago
You are afraid mass cheating will come to light.

Not at all. 60 plus cases and the Republicans are 0 for 60 plus. Keep on with the BS it makes them look more ignorant with each case they lose.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @10.2.1    4 months ago

Then you should have zero problems with a full audit. Why are there thousands of lawyers dispatched by the Justice department to stop any attempt at doing, even random, audits?

Because maybe they know the truth?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.3  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @10.2.2    4 months ago
Then you should have zero problems with a full audit. Why are there thousands of lawyers dispatched by the Justice department to stop any attempt at doing, even random, audits?

Thousands of DOJ lawyers are trying to stop any attempts, but aren't there 5 sham audits going on right now?

Because maybe they know the truth?

Naw, it's the ''Deep State'' that's behind all this, just love those conspiracy theories. LMAO

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.4  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @10.2.3    4 months ago

Maybe they are conspiracy theories, who knows?

If they turn out to be nothing, then you will have reason to ridicule Republicans.

By you calling the audits going on "shams", you are acknowledging you really don't want to know the truth.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.2.5  author  JBB  replied to  bugsy @10.2.4    4 months ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.6  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @10.2.4    4 months ago
By you calling the audits going on "shams", you are acknowledging you really don't want to know the truth.

Making assumptions isn't a good look for you. After 60 plus audits and law cases, the truth is known, but if you choose to have more audits go for it maybe they'll find the ''deep state''.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
10.2.7  Hallux  replied to  Kavika @10.2.6    4 months ago
maybe they'll find the ''deep state''

I know where it is and I'm tellin' everyone. It's half a moon away from its twin half a moon.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.8  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @10.2.6    4 months ago

I'm sitting back and waiting for the results, much unlike the left that had the desired leftist results given to them before the investigation even began.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.9  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @10.2.7    4 months ago
I know where it is and I'm tellin' everyone. It's half a moon away from its twin half a moon

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
10.2.10  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @10.2.3    4 months ago
Naw, it's the ''Deep State'' that's behind all this, just love those conspiracy theories. LMAO

And he forgot to mention that people should be aware that getting the Covid vaccine is merely a ploy by the so-called "Deep State" to control you!

Yes-- what the government is doing is planting tiny electrodes in you with the vaccination needle-- so they can use those electrodes to control you!

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.11  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @10.2.10    4 months ago
And he forgot to mention that people should be aware that getting the Covid vaccine is merely a ploy by the so-called "Deep State" to control you!

Funny how I, as someone who has been vaccinated since January, never said that.

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
10.2.12  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @10.2.9    4 months ago

I do believe who I converse with is my choice. I recommend that you talk to yourself ... let us know if you need any props: a mirror and a can of Spam should do.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.13  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @10.2.12    4 months ago
I do believe who I converse with is my choice. I recommend that you talk to yourself ... let us know if you need any props: a mirror and a can of Spam should do.

Again....if you want to have a conversation that makes zero sense.....

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.2.14  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @10.2.3    4 months ago
it's the ''Deep State'' that's behind all this

funny how some people can whine so loud out of one side of their face about the bias of a congressional proceeding in which those same people chose not to participate. while at the same time from the other side of their face, they defend the AZ audit done by actual conspiracy theorists, rubber stamped by trumpster in-state stooges, and financed by dark money. uh-huh...

I expect this bullshit audit fire to burn in AZ until they can get other states on board. they gotta keep gramps and granny sending in their money to save us all from the socialist commie leftists. didn't AZ do 2 or 3 recounts last november within a few days after each demand? how long have the cyber ninjas been counting now? long enough for multiple internal scandals to start taking a toll.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
10.2.15  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @10.2.8    4 months ago

In April of this year, former GOP AZ Secretary of State Ken Bennett said

Still, Ken Bennett, who is acting as a liaison for the GOP-led Senate on the recount, expressed his confidence in the company conducting the audit. "All I can speak to is the interaction that I've had with them since they've been on site and brought the people in to do this, and I am very impressed and pleased that they are qualified to do what they are doing," Bennett said Monday.

Once a birther, Bennett has now changed his tune and apparent told AP investigators or journalists that Cyber Ninjas isn't what they were touted to be and released data indicating that the Maricopa County votes tally's will be remarkably close to the official ballot counts indicating no fraud, no steal, no big lie.

As a result the GOP Senate President barred Bennett from the audit building.

Cyber Ninjas, the Florida-based company conducting the audit on behalf of the state's Senate Republicans , told the publication that state Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, made the decision to block Bennett from the building. Newsweek reached out to Fann for further comment but did not immediately receive a response.

Monday Bennett threatened to quit.

Ken Bennett, the former Arizona GOP secretary of state serving as the Arizona Senate Republicans' liaison to an ongoing audit of ballots , raised concerns about the audit contractors' lack of transparency in two radio interviews on Monday.

Bennett has been one of the public faces of the Arizona Senate GOP's audit of Maricopa County's election since it began in April, but he suggested on Monday that he might quit. Bennett's comments came after he said he was blocked from entering the audit on Friday. 

"I cannot be a part of a process that I am kept out of critical aspects along the way that make the audit legitimate and have integrity when we produce the final report," Bennett told conservative talk show host James Harris. "And unfortunately, there have been too many of those situations. And the tip of the iceberg kind of came out last Friday when I was denied access to the audit."

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
10.2.16  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @10.2.15    4 months ago

Don't know why you thought you had to post that. I never said I believed there was cheating, I simply said that if leftists had nothing to fear from audits, then why are they spending millions to stop them.

If you had read, you would have seen where I said that if no cheating was found anywhere, then leftists have a compelling case to ridicule Republicans for their efforts.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
10.2.18  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @10.2.13    4 months ago

Why do you think I replied to you?

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
10.2.19  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @10.2.16    4 months ago
Don't know why you thought you had to post that.

Because it's better to be informed and up to date.

I never said I believed there was cheating, I simply said that if leftists had nothing to fear from audits, then why are they spending millions to stop them.

Do you have links verifying this millions?

I think we can prove the amount of tax payer money being wasted in AZ in a lost cause.

I also read where you claimed thousands of DOJ lawyers have been dispatched to stop election audits.

Where's the link for that conspiracy theory?

If you had read, you would have seen where I said that if no cheating was found anywhere, then leftists have a compelling case to ridicule Republicans for their efforts.

I sense that you have a problem writing a sentence that doesn't include the word "leftists".

Why do you think these imaginary leftists are the only people who will be ridiculing the Republicans?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10.2.20  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @10.2.19    4 months ago

Now I read there is still a lawsuit to force the turn over of all the servers.

Government workers are pissed as it would give them all the information from the police departments and other agencies. Not to mention having to replace all of them.

If I was a taxpayer in that state, I would be getting pissed at the cost these fraudsters are raking up and they are on the hook for.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
10.2.21  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @10.2.20    4 months ago

And Mr. Trump's PAC collected $75 mllion specifically to fund these audits but so far has used the money solely for the former PotUS's expenses.

Go figure.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
10.2.22  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @10.2.2    4 months ago
Then you should have zero problems with a full audit.

How many will it take before they finally say, "Well, shit, looks like trump actually lost!". Answer? It doesn't matter, they are immune to proof or facts. Now Arizona's tax payers have to pay for all new voting machines because they have been corrupted in the fraudit process, (which has accomplished nothing). 

It's a right wing pipe dream. Even if Arizona was flipped, they would have to flip at least 3 more to even get trump close to 270. It's not just futile, it's madness. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
10.2.23  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @10.2.21    4 months ago
And Mr. Trump's PAC collected $75 mllion specifically to fund these audits but so far has used the money solely for the former PotUS's expenses.

Well, no surprise there! 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
10.2.24  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @10.2.16    4 months ago

Don't know why you thought you had to post that. I never said I believed there was cheating, I simply said that if leftists had nothing to fear from audits, then why are they spending millions to stop them.

If you had read, you would have seen where I said that if no cheating was found anywhere, then leftists have a compelling case to ridicule Republicans for their efforts.

Why are you being so defensive?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Principal
10.2.25  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @10.2.11    4 months ago
Funny how I, as someone who has been vaccinated since January, never said that.

LOL!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
10.2.26  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @10.2.4    4 months ago
By you calling the audits going on "shams", you are acknowledging you really don't want to know the truth.

We know the truth, it's up to individuals to accept it. Even trumps own admin said it was the most secure election in history. 

“The definition of insanity is  doing the same thing over and over again , but expecting different results.”

--- Albert Einstein. 

512

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11  Ender    4 months ago

For people that think this is nothing but 'theatre', they sure as hell are bitching and moaning a lot about it...

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
11.1  Hallux  replied to  Ender @11    4 months ago

They're pining for a Benghazi and the Kangaroos Redux.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Ender  replied to  Hallux @11.1    4 months ago

There is a Washington Post article called Pelosi Did This.

It was spot on about the bullshit being served by some of the right wing.

I was going to seed it but behind a paywall.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
12  MrFrost    4 months ago

512

 
 
 
arkpdx
Masters Participates
13  arkpdx    4 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Senior Participates
14  Jeremy Retired in NC    4 months ago

I've seen better acting at a grade school play.