What Will Happen When "The Roof Is Brought Down" On Donald Trump's Head ?

  
By:  John Russell  •  2 months ago  •  174 comments


What Will Happen When "The Roof Is Brought Down" On Donald Trump's Head ?
In mid June, the US House special committee on Jan 6th will, by all accounts, prove that Donald Trump and his closest advisers tried to steal the 2020 election by illegally attempting to organize "alternate electors" in various states without any factual or constitutional basis at all. 

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We are about a month away from what should be a cataclysmic event in US history.  In mid June, the US House special committee on Jan 6th will, by all accounts, prove that Donald Trump and his closest advisers tried to steal the 2020 election by illegally attempting to organize "alternate electors" in various states without any factual or constitutional basis at all. 

One of the committee members , Rep.Raskin, has said that the evidence of wrong doing by Trump and his close advisers will "bring the roof down". 

From what we already know about the extremely questionable activities surrounding the Trump administrations reactions to the election results , and the Jan 6 certification process, this appears to be an accurate prediction. 

At this point the overriding question is not whether the committee hearings will present proof of Trump's wrongdoing , but how the nation will react to the evidence, belated as it may be , that their president on Jan 6, 2021 tried to run a coup against his own government. This is of course unprecedented in US history. 

Will MAGA continue to prevail on the GOP side when it is shown that their leader is a traitor?  Will Trump himself stand down from politics , or change in any way?  Will the democrats use the committee findings as a hammer in the mid terms. Will the DOJ indict Trump or his associates on criminal charges related to the attempted coup? 

It is one thing to speculate about what happened. It will be something else altogether when the proof is laid out in prime time for days in a row. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Big time coming. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

I've seen this movie before. The ending is disappointing

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    2 months ago

In terms of right wingers facing reality, you may be right. It is hard though to see how independents and other reasonable people can ignore what is , by all accounts, going to be extremely damaging evidence against Trump. The last time we had public hearings of this magnitude about a president was Watergate, and those hearings were the main factor in bringing Nixon down. 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.2  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    2 months ago

Usually is.

 
 
 
Lemuel G
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1.1.3  Lemuel G  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 months ago

It’s a rigged system.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 months ago

There are already a lot of independents who don't want to see Trump run again.  You just don't want to hear it if they don't also jump up and condemn Trump at the same time.  As far as how damaging it will be against Trump we will have to wait and see.  How many times while Trump was in office did we have Schiff and others come out stating they had the absolute proof to convict Trump and yet it never happened and when the evidence was presented it was rather weak. 

We will see what this does. I don't know that it will change the minds of his abject followers but I can hope it convinces Trump that he really doesn't want to run in 24.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.4    2 months ago
How many times while Trump was in office did we have Schiff and others come out stating they had the absolute proof to convict Trump and yet it never happened and when the evidence was presented it was rather weak. 

There have been a number of books that have come out about the last weeks of the Trump administration and Jan 6th. None of them have been at all flattering or supportive of Trump's behavior. The Bob Woodward book revealed "the Eastman Memo" which was a plan presented to Trump, in the oval office, which called for Mike Pence to declare the votes from 7 swing states invalid and proclaim Trump to be the winner based on a new electoral count without those 7 states. Trump approved of this plan, among others that were suggested to keep him in office. We can know this is true because in his Jan 6th speech to his followers at The Ellipse Trump said that Mike Pence still had a chance to follow John Eastman's advice later that day. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    2 months ago

Exactly, we just need for Garland to man-up where Holder and Lynch wimped out with Bush II.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.4    2 months ago
How many times while Trump was in office did we have Schiff and others come out stating they had the absolute proof to convict Trump and yet it never happened and when the evidence was presented it was rather weak. 

Well, there were the 2 impeachments where the republican Senate refused to allow any evidence to be presented.  Hard to call that evidence as "weak" when they refused to allow it to be heard.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 months ago
and those hearings were the main factor in bringing Nixon down. 

And electing Jimmie Carter instead of Ford.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.9  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.7    2 months ago

We did get to see the evidence in the impeachment trials in the House and yes it was weak.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.10  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.9    2 months ago
yes it was weak.  

if you want to call proving that Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine until they announced an investigation of Biden weak.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.7    2 months ago

e were the 2 impeachments where the republican Senate refused to allow any evidence to be presented

Of course evidence was presented.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.12  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.10    2 months ago

For that issue you have Democrats saying that Trump broke the law and Republicans saying he didn't.  A president can delay sending the aid which is what Trump did.  He skirted up to the edge of the time limit in which he was required by law to notify Congress why he was delaying sending the foreign aid but he did not go past that timeline.  The reason why he delayed sending it was IMO wrong but it did not break the law as I understand it.

Experts on both sides of the political spectrum have gone back and forth on this issue and they still don't agree if it was truly illegal.  Wrong policy, absolutely agree but not convinced it was illegal.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.13  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.12    2 months ago

If I recall there was evidence presented that Trump tied the delay of the aid to if and when the Ukrainian government agreed to announce an investigation of the Bidens. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.14  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.13    2 months ago

I think that was talked about but not proven thru evidence as to prove it you would need to also prove intent.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.15  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.14    2 months ago

As far as I'm concerned he should have been impeached just based on the transcript of the phone call with Zelensky. It was disgraceful. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.15    2 months ago

Poor Zelensky, having to deal with that thug wannabe dictator and now murdering thug putin

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.17  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.16    2 months ago

Bizarrely, but not surprisingly, Donald Trump suggested today that Dr Oz might be cheated out of victory in the Pennsylvania primary by a fraudulent count of mail in ballots. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.18  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.17    2 months ago

Also, not surprisingly, Trump told Oz to declare himself the winner.  That's how we do things in a dictatorship.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.7    2 months ago
Well, there were the 2 impeachments where the republican Senate refused to allow any evidence to be presented.  Hard to call that evidence as "weak" when they refused to allow it to be heard.

Gee, that sure sounds wrong.

I could have sworn the House managers had all kinds of trial strategies lined up and witnesses to depose.

Declaring something so patently false as you did with this claim says someone is not in touch with facts and reality.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.20  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.19    2 months ago
I could have sworn the House managers had all kinds of trial strategies lined up and witnesses to depose.

And there you go again, looking silly by replying to a comment of mine, without actually reading it first.  I never mentioned the House, which you would know if you'd bothered to look.

Declaring something so patently false as you did with this claim says someone is not in touch with facts and reality.

The reality is that your comment is once again not applicable to my statement.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.21  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.17    one month ago

It's not bizarre at all. Donald J. Trump has REPEATEDLY told everybody in this world (and God outside of it) who he is as a person and human being. He does not give a damn about any body that gets in his way! Consequently, if somebody plans to cross Trump plan to take him politically down and out! Because he will be a foe from that day forward.

Moreover, now I know that "Dr. Oz" is a 'loser' too! Because he hangs with trashy people who will do and say anything to win by hook or crook!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.22  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @1.1.21    one month ago
Moreover, now I know that "Dr. Oz" is a 'loser' too! Because he hangs with trashy people

He's changed so much since Oprah had him on her show over 60 times until she designed his own show.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.23  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.22    one month ago
He's changed so much since Oprah had him on her show over 60 times until she designed his own show.

I don't think he has changed that much.  Read an article years ago, about all the BTS crap going on at his show.  Producers were blocking most of his bizarre medical theories, and things he wanted to address.  The article listed some of the things he wanted to highlight on his show, and many of them were just utterly unbelievable.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.24  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.22    one month ago

Yes, he did. And I supported Dr. Oz on the strength of Oprah and later on his own standing. Little did I know that some people's politics are counter to their public persona. I am often surprised ('dumb-struck') when I see people I respect for being forthright and sincere come out as privileged and arrogant. Donald Trump never intends to be a good person. He has told us time and time again to accept him for what he is, a dirty, cutthroat, wannabe 'boss' even if when it means being infamous.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @1.1.24    one month ago
I am often surprised ('dumb-struck') when I see people I respect for being forthright and sincere come out as privileged and arrogant

Indeed, Oz is so privileged and arrogant, he was:

  • Born in 1960 in Cleveland to Turkish immigrants from a small town
  • Undergrad degree in biology at Harvard University.
  • MD and MBA degrees from the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine and Penn's Wharton School.  Awarded the Captain's Athletic Award for leadership in college and was class president and student body president during medical school.
  • During his residency, earned the Blakemore research award
  • Founded the Cardiac Complementary Care Center 
  • A professor at the Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons
  • Develop numerous devices and procedures related to heart surgery, including the MitraClip and the left ventricular assist device (LVAD), and by 2015 held a number of patents related to heart surgery.
  • Wrote numerous medical articles and research projects
  • Wrote eight New York Times bestsellers
  • Appeared on Oprah over 60 times
  • Had his own TV show
  • Ran for US Senate

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Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.26  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.4    one month ago

I am a conservative independent and I do not want to see Trump run again. He had his chance and blew it, burning too many bridges behind him along the way. Time to make way for somebody newer and younger on the right that will not alienate their base the way Trump did to many. Will have to wait and see who is willing to step up to the plate in 2024.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.25    one month ago

What happened to cause him to go batshit crazy and become a charlatan/snake oil salesman?

How low he has sunk.  Associating with the likes of trumpturd - another charlatan/snake oil salesman plus thug, thief, scumbag, amoral turd.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.28  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.25    one month ago

As I stated @1.1.24 I supported Dr. Oz on his support from Oprah (who introduced him to the public to my knowledge) and later on on his own standing). Similarly, I supported Donald Trump from what I knew about the "mogul" from his promotions, "hype sessions," and book publishings, but then Donald Trump entered politics and in doing so destroyed his 'mystique' and became the 'dog' that chews its way to the top by attacking and consuming other dogs!

Oz, has joined that 'dog' as an underlink.  That is privilege and arrogance.

Subsequently, this venture into politics even if only temporary which is causing him to align with Trump is a failing he will be judge on going forward one way or another.

And no, Drinker', I don't begrudge Dr. Oz any of his past successes any more than I begrudge Trump his business acumen apart from being a human "JERK" at politics.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.29  Thomas  replied to  CB @1.1.28    one month ago

With all do respect CB, Donald Trump has always been a charlatan. Just ask anyone who was paying attention to his career. He has always tried to define reality, even in the face of clear and incontrovertible evidence. I think the main reason that he got elected was his ability to piss off people.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.20    one month ago
And there you go again, looking silly by replying to a comment of mine, without actually reading it first.

That tripe is stale and old, please, get some new lines to spew.

I never mentioned the House, which you would know if you'd bothered to look.

I know you didn't, but I didn't say you did, so there's that. Plus, who in the hell do you think prosecutes impeachments?

The impeachment fairy?

SMH

The reality is that your comment is once again not applicable to my statement.

I am sorry that connecting the dots to your wild, silly claim that no evidence was allowed to be presented and the reality that evidence WAS presented by the HOUSE MANAGERS is too much of a stretch for you.

Maybe next time, claim something at least partially believable by thinking people.

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.1.31  Veronica  replied to  Thomas @1.1.29    one month ago
Donald Trump has always been a charlatan.

Yes, he has been.  He has taken my state for tons - not to mention ruining family run business by not paying for services rendered.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.32  CB   replied to  Thomas @1.1.29    one month ago

I really did not know that man at all before he started his 'run' in 2015. But, I watched the first season of the Apprentice, and Trump's guest appearance on "Deal or No Deal" as guest Banker (where he 'stiffed' a contestant with the lowest offers possible throughout the show). One more thing, there were Christian leaders who were making 'stories' about Donald Trump - the man, the myth, the man who once had a flat tire and some farmer let him use the phone and was 'handsomely' rewarded.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.33  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @1.1.32    one month ago
One more thing, there were Christian leaders who were making 'stories' about Donald Trump - the man, the myth, the man who once had a flat tire and some farmer let him use the phone and was 'handsomely' rewarded.

Christian leaders, in the 90’s?  More likely a publicity team on the Trump payroll.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.34  bbl-1  replied to  Thomas @1.1.29    one month ago

"the main reason he got elected..............."

Or-----what the right-wing claims happened in 2020 did happen in 2016, except nobody dared to look.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    2 months ago

The roof is firmly supported by the timbers of truth aka lack of credible evidence.

Trump won't be indicted, charged, or convicted of any crime

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1  Snuffy  replied to  Greg Jones @2    2 months ago

I have to agree.  Seems to me the only way they can convict is to prove the intent, and that's rather difficult to prove.  I can only hope that this is enough to convince him to not run in 24.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Snuffy @2.1    2 months ago

Maybe the Democrats should WANT him to run, because he could be less competition for their choice than a respectable Republican candidate.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Snuffy @2.1    one month ago

Trump, like many others in politics are covered in multiple layers of Teflon and stuff just slides right off.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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2.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.1    one month ago

"Respectable republican candidate."  ?  ?  

Would that be MAGA or non-Maga?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.3    one month ago

Non-obstructionists

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3  Right Down the Center    2 months ago

No matter what does or does not happen to Donald the people that love him will continue to love him, the people that hate him will continue to hate him and the people that couldn't care less about him will continue to not care about him. Then maybe we could focus on more pressing matters in the country.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @3    2 months ago

see 4.1

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 months ago

Nice to see you have a wild imagination. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.2  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.1    one month ago

And yet again, another throwaway one-liner signifying nothing. Your comment @3 is considered 'lukewarm' at best. Take a side already. This 'hidden' shilling out int he open at the fifty yard line is not serving you well! Not at all.

Surely, Donald wants his supporters to be hot or cold so at least he can invite the important ones to Mara Lago or heave cold coals on the detractors.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @3    one month ago

No harm no foul. Is that what you really see here? I mean I just want to understand your 'judging' discernment skills, and why you are offering get out jail free cards to select villainous people.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4  Nerm_L    2 months ago

What Will Happen When "The Roof Is Brought Down" On Donald Trump's Head ?

The sun will rise, the wind will blow, there'll still be bills to pay and things to buy.  And Democrats will still lose the midterms bigly.

The midterm election will be a referendum on Joe Biden.  No matter how much Democrats howl, Trump is not Biden.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @4    2 months ago

Nice to see you tacitly approve of Trumps traitorous behavior. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 months ago
Nice to see you tacitly approve of Trumps traitorous behavior. 

It doesn't matter a whit if I approve or disapprove of Trump since Trump does not hold office.  I can wag my finger at Trump till the finger falls off and it will change nothing.  Trump has been banned from social media so there's nothing for the outrage machine to use.  Democrats have to stand in that spotlight alone.

The midterms will be a referendum on Joe Biden.  The midterms will be a referendum on how Democrats used the power they were given last election.  Trying to hide Biden behind Trump won't work because Democrats have made Trump invisible.  Smart move that.

Trump is not Biden.  And, right now, Biden is Democrats' problem.  Ignoring Biden won't make him go away.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    2 months ago

So now Trump should not be held to account for his Jan 6 crimes because he is not in office anymore.  

Ridiculous. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 months ago
So now Trump should not be held to account for his Jan 6 crimes because he is not in office anymore.

Stand Trump against the wall and fire away.  Nothing will change.  Trump ain't Biden.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.3    2 months ago
Trump ain't Biden

We currently have a president who is sane, honest and a decent man. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 months ago
So now Trump should not be held to account for his Jan 6 crimes because he is not in office anymore.  

As far as I know, Trump has not been convicted of any crimes regarding January 6, nor has he even been indicted for same.

Do you have supporting evidence that he has?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 months ago
Nice to see you tacitly approve of Trumps traitorous behavior.

I see you still haven't proven "Trumps traitorous behavior".  

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1.7  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.5    one month ago
has not been convicted

Not yet but it's coming.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.3    one month ago
"Stand Trump against the wall and fire away."

It would be well deserved but that will never happen.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.9  CB   replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    one month ago
It doesn't matter a whit if I approve or disapprove of Trump since Trump does not hold office. 

You do approve of Trump. So, let's take that "if" off the table. Until you say something tangible about that man and his poor conduct as a fellow citizen and human being, respectively, I will render my own decision about your 'perspective' on the man. You Nerm, are a Trump supporter - free and clear. How do I know this? Because Donald Trump demands loyalty from you and you supply it in 'spades' here on NT.

And before you go there: You support for Donald Trump goes way beyond him being perceived as any version of an "underdog."

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.5    one month ago

All some people know and care about is the court of public opinion. Nothing else matters.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @4.1.7    one month ago
Not yet but it's coming.

Yeah, we have heard ALL about how "It's coming" for at least 6 years now. Let me know when reality sets in and the left realizes it ain't happening.

Maybe some deluded leftists will continue to believe that, but most will move on from Trump---eventually.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.11    one month ago

Well, when a Republican wins the election in 2024, the lefty libs will have somebody new to go after for at least four years and they'll forget about Trump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.12    one month ago
Well, when a Republican wins the election in 2024, the lefty libs will have somebody new to go after for at least four years and they'll forget about Trump.

We have a different President now, and STILL it is all about Trump for a select few on the left.

I have ZERO confidence they will EVER let Trump go.

How do you evict someone living rent free in your head?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.14  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.12    one month ago

No one is going to forget about the worst president in American history. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    one month ago
No one is going to forget about the worst president in American history. 

It's nice you have something to focus on daily.

Of course, the thousands of words written derogatorily about Trump has never changed anything at all.

All that hate and angst wasted on someone not in office. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.16  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    one month ago

Of course you are right. People will always remember Obama.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1.17  Thomas  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.16    one month ago

How many terms did he serve? s/

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.18  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    one month ago

Yes because most leftists are pissed Lincoln freed their slaves.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4.1.19  bbl-1  replied to  bugsy @4.1.18    one month ago

Be kind, factual, to the point and explain your remark.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.20  Nerm_L  replied to  CB @4.1.9    one month ago
You do approve of Trump. So, let's take that "if" off the table. Until you say something tangible about that man and his poor conduct as a fellow citizen and human being, respectively, I will render my own decision about your 'perspective' on the man. You Nerm, are a Trump supporter - free and clear. How do I know this? Because Donald Trump demands loyalty from you and you supply it in 'spades' here on NT.

Ah yes, the favorite tactic of making me the topic of discussion.  When Democrats are losers without a cause then it's always someone else's fault.

So far, Democrats haven't done anything about Trump.  Seven years and waiting.  Trump was one of the most investigated Presidents in US history.  Trump was the most impeached President in history.  And, yet, Democrats are still whining about Trump.  Hillary Clinton certainly could not have withstood the level of scrutiny Trump received.  And it's doubtful Joe Biden can.

The old 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' trope is why Democrats are not a viable alternative.  That's how Biden has blindly walked the United States into a eastern European quagmire and wrecked the global economy in the process.  Not even Trump could have screwed up that badly.

Trump is the only alternative because Democrats haven't been able to find their way out of the restroom for seven years.  Democrats being stuck in the toilet has only given them a lot of crap to throw.  Democrats get the blame for making Trump look like a better choice.  

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.21  CB   replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.20    one month ago

This is not about you, but you do need to be clear about your intentions in communicating with others. If you are a Trump supporter-own it.

And so you double-down on Trump, when you could put another republican from the 'deck'! You ARE an exceptional Trump supporter. Admit it and move on.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.22  Nerm_L  replied to  CB @4.1.21    one month ago
This is not about you, but you do need to be clear about your intentions in communicating with others. If you are a Trump supporter-own it. And so you double-down on Trump, when you could put another republican from the 'deck'! You ARE an exceptional Trump supporter. Admit it and move on.

I'm still not the topic of discussion.  Who says I'm a Republican anyway?  You?

The problem with Democrats' identity politics is they must impose an identity on everyone.  In case you haven't noticed Democrats (the party of diversity) is rather divided because too many refuse to stay inside the lines of their identity.

Hillary Clinton is evil incarnate.  Joe Biden has screwed up everything his entire political career.  And Barack Obama has an ego that's a whole lot bigger than Donald Trump's.  Democrats aren't a viable choice any longer.  So, what's the alternative?  You know, east coast and west coast Republicans are just as looney as Democrats.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.23  CB   replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.22    one month ago

I have no idea what you are going on about. It all that word 'sausage' you did not mention once your political leaning, which would be an easy clarification for all 'this.' Moving on.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Nerm_L @4    2 months ago

The sun will rise, the wind will blow, there'll still be bills to pay and things to buy.  And Democrats will still lose the midterms bigly.

And some people will still  stalk trump and be able to tell you every time he takes a shit.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
4.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2    2 months ago
And some people will still  stalk trump and be able to tell you every time he takes a shit.

Yeah, the political left celebrate a lot of strange fetishes.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.2  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @4.2.1    2 months ago

Two years ago Trump was sending checks to everyone and running a three trillion dollar budget deficit. The gop denied Biden the money he needed, but his deficit this year will only be about six hundred billion. Consider that!

3,000,000,000,000 minus 600,000,000,000...

Equals 2,400,000,000,000 Joe saved the US.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    2 months ago

Equals 2,400,000,000,000 Joe saved the US.

Please tell me you don't believe that.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
4.2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    2 months ago
Equals 2,400,000,000,000 Joe saved the US.

Thank you, Joe Manchin.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.5  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.3    2 months ago

Yes, I believe in math...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.6  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @4.2.4    2 months ago

The inflation we suffer today resulted from Trump's and the gop's wild spending and borrowing which stimulated the economy but also greatly expanded the cash in circulation resulting in current inflation. 

Gas and home prices are fixing to go down and interest rates will be normalized. Putin's dumbass war is the biggest drag on the world's economy, but you do not want to talk about that, while blaming Biden is your gig!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
4.2.7  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    2 months ago
Yes, I believe in math...

Apparently so does Manchin.  Maybe Democrats chose the wrong Joe.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    2 months ago

Oh. so you never heard of the once in a century pandemic that led to unprecedented emergency spending and a fall off in receipts as businesses closed.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4.2.6    2 months ago

But but but trump.

But but but putin

It is always someone other than the guy that has been in charge for well over a year.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.10  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @4.2.7    2 months ago

You are still making my point. The benefits of current fiscal responsibility (As compared to Trump's budgets 2017-2021) are only beginning to become evident. You know it and I know it and yes, Joe Manchin knows it. I could probably get behind Joe Manchin for 2024 BTW...

"Economics is just math" - Bill Clinton 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.11  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.9    2 months ago

Yes, I am giving Democrats credit for getting spending and borrowing back under control and for practicing fiscal responsibility again.

Things are not all that bad. We have suffered some supply chain issues that resulted in transitory inflation and artificially low rates cause speculators to bid real estate too high, but unemployment is historically low, wages are growing and homeowners are reaping windfalls. Things are returning to normal, Putin is being humiliated and the free world is united in ways unimaginable two years ago.

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.11    2 months ago
Yes, I am giving Democrats credit for getting spending and borrowing back under control and for practicing fiscal responsibility again.

Exactly, with no more Trump or Biden COVID stimulus and with Build Back Better shelved, our 2022 deficit might not be more than $600B.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.10    2 months ago

Manchin’s shelving of BBB’s borrowed stimulus might save some Dem Congressional seats.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.6    2 months ago

Exactly, those Trump and Biden COVID stimulus were excessive.  Fortunately, BBB was stopped. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.15  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.12    2 months ago

Yes, and there will be some short term pain as we come off the sugar high of stimulus checks and easy money. Our real economy is gradually regaining its strength. By all rights we should be smooth sailing by 2024. There are things called economic cycles. From today's low the DOW will likely rise by 100% by then. Two and a half years are eons in political time. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.16  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.15    2 months ago

What does CBO predict for FY 23 and FY 24’s deficits?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.17  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.14    2 months ago

If you really believe in fiscal responsibility, as I do, then what exactly is your point? Democrats suffer for doing the right thing?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.18  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.16    2 months ago

Why don't you tell us? I'll save my opinions for after President Biden signs those budgets...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.19  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.12    2 months ago

Reagan, the shrubs and El Trumpo blew up budgets and deficits resulting in economic bubbles and ensuing collapses. Clinton, Obama and Biden reduced deficit spending.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.17    2 months ago
If you really believe in fiscal responsibility, as I do, then what exactly is your point?

I asked what the CBO predictions were for our near-term deficits.  Sorry that wasn't clear.

Democrats suffer for doing the right thing?

Isn't the continuing cost of entitlement spending the constant in our annual deficit?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.18    2 months ago
Why don't you tell us? 

CBO projects , annual deficits average $1.2 trillion a year from 2022 to 2031 and exceed their 50-year average of 3.3 percent of GDP in each of those years. They decline to 4.0 percent of GDP or less from 2023 to 2027 before increasing again, reaching 5.7 percent of GDP in 2031. By the end of the period, both primary deficits (which exclude net outlays for interest) and interest outlays are rising.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.22  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.19    2 months ago
Clinton, Obama and Biden reduced deficit spending.

Exactly, Gore invented the internet and Clinton got the Tech bubble.  Obama said no more after his big American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.  Biden said no more after his COVID $2B stimulus bill, until he didn't. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.23  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.21    2 months ago

Damn Boomers ruined everything for everyone.

It is a tossup if Earth or they will all die off first.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.24  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.22    2 months ago

Fuck Off!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.24    2 months ago

Well said JBB, I like it when you keep it short and succinct.  You're understandable then.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.26  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.11    2 months ago

transitory inflation?

you do mean merely temporary for a short time like Biden said, right?

how's that working out for you?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.27  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    2 months ago
The gop denied Biden the money he needed,

WHAT money did Biden need?

What money was he denied by the GOP?

I sure hope you aren't talking about that crazy-ass BBB bill!

And how do you think the MINORITY party denied Biden?

Can't Democrats govern while in the majority?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.28  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.6    2 months ago
Gas and home prices are fixing to go down

Uh, sure they are.

Just like "Inflation is temporary".

Here is something to show you exactly how wrong you are:

ttps://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/energy/record-gas-price-causes/index.html

So you think Joe will get prices down from RECORD highs?

Big whoop--what an accomplishment!!

jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

LOL!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.29  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    2 months ago
Yes, I believe in math...

I kind of doubt it based solely on your post:

Equals 2,400,000,000,000 Joe saved the US.

That is the same "thinking" that results in scenarios like this:

A govt. agency requests $100 million for its budget, up from $80 million.

They are granted a budget of $90 million.

Liberals claim we cut their budget.

And saved money!

LMAO!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.30  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @4.2.11    2 months ago
Yes, I am giving Democrats credit for getting spending and borrowing back under control and for practicing fiscal responsibility again.

If you're spending then borrowing that's not "fiscal responsibility".  Fiscal responsibility would mean that we WOULDN'T HAVE TO BORROW and only spend what we have.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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4.2.31  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.30    2 months ago

Still living in that perfect bubble of "What should of, could of, been" bubble, I see.

What was the great gift that 45 dumped on our COUNTRY?

Fiscal responsibility, a balanced budget, 1,000,000 COVID DEATHS to rid of America of the "underserved."

At some point, one has to put their childish toys away.


 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Expert
4.2.32  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2.31    2 months ago
1,000,000 COVID DEATHS to rid of America of the "underserved."

Didn't 600,000 die after January 2021?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
4.2.33  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2.31    2 months ago
Fiscal responsibility, a balanced budget,

Exactly.  NOT BORROWING just to spend more.

1,000,000 COVID DEATHS to rid of America of the "underserved."

And where did I ever say that?  Not to mention it's completely unrelated.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
4.2.34  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.32    2 months ago
Didn't 600,000 die after January 2021?

You aren't supposed to remember that. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.2.35  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @4.2.10    2 months ago
You are still making my point. The benefits of current fiscal responsibility (As compared to Trump's budgets 2017-2021) are only beginning to become evident. You know it and I know it and yes, Joe Manchin knows it. I could probably get behind Joe Manchin for 2024 BTW... "Economics is just math" - Bill Clinton 

I got a check from Biden, too.  Didn't you get one?  Biden bragged about his post-inaugural mega stimulus until the math kicked in.  Biden embarked upon a great policy agenda to become the new FDR.

Biden celebrated his win with an EO extravaganza that overturned everything Trump.  So it can't be Trump's fault; Biden fixed it.

Gonna be hard to win a midterm by completely ignoring Biden's accomplishments.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2.36  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @4.2.6    one month ago
The inflation we suffer today resulted from Trump's and the gop's wild spending and borrowing which stimulated the economy but also greatly expanded the cash in circulation resulting in current inflation. 

It all just waited for Joe to take office before it hit. Great timing by Trump and the GOP. Of course Democrats had nothing to do with passing those multiple Covid stimulus; and didn't pass an extra stimulus onto the dumpster fire themselves once Biden took office. They tried fourth one; but the GOP shut them down. Then of course Build Back Broke. 

Gas and home prices are fixing to go down and interest rates will be normalized. Putin's dumbass war is the biggest drag on the world's economy, but you do not want to talk about that, while blaming Biden is your gig!

When? When will they. With economists predicting recession looming and the stock market falling; all we are getting from Democrats and the left is "The sun will come out tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow- there will be sun!". Double down on stupid saying we need Build Back Broke now! That dumpster fire isn't burning hard enough.

Putin's dumbass war? What about Biden's dumbass war? Not that congress hasn't added to that proxy war bullshit. What are Biden's condition for peace with Russia? Until every last Ukrainian is dead? Until WWIII starts? Or until he and congress have fucked us all over so badly dumping money and military aid into Ukraine that the dollar is worthless? Putin isn't going anywhere unless one of his inner circle is smart and nasty enough to take him out and assume control. Of course dumb fucks that haven't followed Russian leadership succession think a pro Western Russian leader will emerge and kiss everyone's ass. Sorry, that boat left long ago after the US/NATO fucked over Gorbachev; and his successors have been further entrenched Soviet style leaders ever since. Look for that to continue once Putin is gone. 

Denial is strong on the left. But Trruuummmmpppppp!!!!! is all they have; and all they ever will have. Rampant TDS has them believing their own lies now.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.37  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2    one month ago
some people will still  stalk trump and be able to tell you every time he takes a shit.

Did somebody strike a nerve toilet with you? I ask because that is some kind of frustration comment you made there. Just wish to point that out before you sound the 'all clear!"

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.38  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.37    one month ago

Once again you draw an incorrect conclusion about what someone says. Try again and I will tell you if you are getting closer.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.39  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.38    one month ago

Nope. I got it down pat, RDtC. If you have got something you want us to know: COMMUNICATE it. Save energy, time, and space on the NT landscape. Now, shit and get off the pot!

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.2.40  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.38    one month ago

“…I will tell you…”

Not to interrupt an interesting conversation, but when one feels compelled to interject a statement such as this, anything stated previously loses importance and anything going forward is rendered meaningless. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.41  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.39    one month ago

Yea. Because you know what I meant better than I did. And you know if it struck a nerve better than I do. Pretty funny and arrogant at the same time. You must be a liberal.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.42  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @4.2.40    one month ago

Then feel free to ignore it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.43  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.41    one month ago

Reckless name-calling aside, I'd rather read about why someone who wishes us to believe s/he is a non-partisan defends a reckless, amoral, and admitted JERK like Donald J. Trump above and beyond sensible people trying and vying to make our country work for the bulk of the citizenry. I can be persuaded that you are not a Trump supporter exclusively when you really began to address issues RIGHT DOWN THE CENTER! Not because you simply wish me to believe it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.45  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.43    one month ago

I don't wish you to believe anything so once again you are wrong.  I sure don't feel a need to try and persuade you of anything. Believe whatever you want to believe.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2.46  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @4.2.24    one month ago

This was not removed, even though it was flagged,  because my understanding is Fuck Off is allowed. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.47  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.46    one month ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.48  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.46    one month ago

Yes, per a ruling from TPTB "Fuck Off!" is now an allowed response, until further notice...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Expert
4.2.49  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.48    one month ago
per a ruling from TPTB "Fuck Off!" is now an allowed response,

Exactly and even though it's not original, your Bronx salute is understandable and doesn't waste our time with superfluous words.  Well done JBB.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.50  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.49    one month ago

If you want to stop your bodily malignancy then maybe you should start by not being not being so damn malignant towards your others...

The negative energies you created backfired.

It is not what you eat. It is what is eating you.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.51  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2.50    one month ago
If you want to stop your bodily malignancy

I appreciate your concern but between the chemo and the surgery there is no malignancy left.

you should start by not being not being so damn malignant towards others...

I haven't wished Appendiceal cancer or any other kind on anyone.  

It's not what you eat. It is what is eating you.

You got that right.  No known food causes.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.52  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.51    one month ago

The way you talk down to people shows otherwise - regarding your malignant behavior towards certain posters.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.53  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @4.2.35    one month ago
"I got a check from Biden, too."

I remember you posted some weird ass shit about cashing checks.  Batshit crazy nonsense.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.54  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.53    one month ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.55  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.37    one month ago

It is yet another case of Democratic angst over all things Trump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.56  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.39    one month ago

he HAS told you and "communicated" with you. Because so many on the left chose to misinterpret or just flat out lie about what is clearly stated, your call for "communication" falls short again.

You seem to want a rosy world where everyone sings "Kumbaya" but then you attack conservatives at every turn.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.2.57  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.28    one month ago

I'll believe it when I see it!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Senior Expert
5  Eat The Press Do Not Read It    2 months ago

I see the entire world having spontaneous ERECTIONS...er...I mean
ELECTIONS.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1  CB   replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @5    one month ago

Looky here, looky here. Welcome back, long time no see! I was worried that only Trump rearing up during election cycles could bring you back and well, it must be true!

That or Nurse "Ratchet" had finally brought in that black 'bottle' and resolved all your issues. jrSmiley_20_smiley_image.gif How you doing old friend 'young man'? Are the nurses, doctor, and Missus still taking good care of you?

 
 
 
Veronica
Masters Expert
6  Veronica    2 months ago
Will Trump himself stand down from politics , or change in any way?

He will not do either.  He has NEVER admitted defeat....even when proven to be wrong & even guilty of wrong doing, it is not in his makeup or character to admit any of it.  And stupid people keep buying his bullshit that he is selling as ice cream.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
7  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago
In mid June, the US House special committee on Jan 6th will, by all accounts, prove that Donald Trump and his closest advisers tried to steal the 2020 election by illegally attempting to organize "alternate electors" in various states without any factual or constitutional basis at all. 

Brought to you by the same group of partisan pawns that proved "Russia Collusion".  Oh wait, that failed.  I know!  They proved Trump worked with Russian spies.  Damn that failed to.  He didn't pay taxes!  Wait, that was another failed attempt.  

After looking at the ever growing number of "investigations" the only thing they MIGHT find Trump guilty of is having a bad rug.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1  cjcold  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    one month ago

Actually there was solid evidence of all of Trump and Co. illegal actions. 

The republican senate refused to prosecute in the spirit of partisanship.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
7.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @7.1    one month ago
The republican senate refused to prosecute in the spirit of partisanship.

You mean like the partisanship that ran the investigations?  Don't cry about the Senate partisanship and ignore the House partisanship.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.2  CB   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.1    one month ago

Enough already. God spare us from this temporary insanity that has taken hold of this truly great nation -in spite of the crisis of conscience that has overtaken us!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7.1.2    one month ago

I agree. Take a deep breath. In with the good air.....out with the TDS. Things will get better after you admit what you have.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.1    one month ago

Mueller is a republican and he found that Trump was guilty of all charges.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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7.1.5  1stwarrior  replied to  cjcold @7.1.4    one month ago

Think you need to re-read the Mueller Report - 'cause, your statement is incorrect is so many ways.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.6  cjcold  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.5    one month ago

I own a copy of the Mueller report.

Trump defenders who ignore his shameful narcissistic insanity are insane.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
7.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @7.1.4    one month ago
Mueller is a republican

How does that change that it was a Democrat run investigation?

he found that Trump was guilty of all charges.

Then why have no charges been filed?  Oh that's right. 1.  Because Meuller wasn't in ANY position to determine guilt or innocence.  and 2. Meuller didn't find evidence.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.8  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.7    one month ago

You dont know what you are talking about on this topic, and never have, and your opinions on the "Russian hoax" are embarrassingly misinformed. Other than that you are on top of everything. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
7.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.3    one month ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
7.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.8    one month ago
You dont know what you are talking about on this topic,

Apparently more than you.  You should actually read the reports and pay attention to the investigations.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.10    one month ago
"Apparently more than you."

Apparently NOT.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.5    one month ago
"Think you need to re-read the Mueller Report - 'cause, your statement is incorrect is so many ways."

As if you ever read it in the first place.  You must have read Barr, trumpturd's consigliere's version.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
7.1.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @7.1.6    one month ago
I own a copy of the Mueller report.

Then read it.

his shameful narcissistic insanity.

And what USC is that chargeable under?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.14  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.3    one month ago

I will talk about Donald J. Trump any time I see fit, so you take whatever (a chilled glass of DeKuyper Peppermint Schnapps perhaps?) you need to get through the day when I do. Cheers! Laughs! Snaps!

Now then, let me ask: when did you start believing in God?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.15  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.9    one month ago

I visualize BOZO_JPEG.jpg naked from the collar down when conservatives try to shift away from Trump the Loser.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @7.1.15    one month ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.1.15    one month ago

What did you visualize when Trump was a Dem?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @7.1    one month ago
The republican senate refused to prosecute in the spirit of partisanship.

The House Managers were prosecutors, not any Senators on either side.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @7.1.4    one month ago

What charges?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
7.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7.1.14    one month ago

I guess you are not ready to have Donald excorcized from your brain yet.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
7.1.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.19    one month ago

There in lies the problem.  The left claim all day that he should be in jail but cannot produce a single charge.  It seems that they forget that under our system evidence is required.  No evidence, no charges.

And we'll see it again when the very partisan US House special committee on Jan 6th "prove" that Donald Trump and his closest advisers tried to steal the 2020.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
7.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.19    one month ago

Mean tweets in the first degree 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.23  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.17    one month ago

Didn't keep up with Donald J. Trump as a democrat. He was not a concern then as now. But, you know this.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Expert
7.1.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.1.23    one month ago
But, you know this.

Are you unable to tell me something that I don’t know?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.25  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.20    one month ago

Save your digits, and when I write about Donald you can pretend to be distracted or reading something (else).

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.8    one month ago
You dont know what you are talking about on this topic, and never have, and your opinions on the "Russian hoax" are embarrassingly misinformed. Other than that you are on top of everything. 

Russian hoax--Hillary, according to her own campaign manager--approved of the plot to insinuate the FBI into Trump's life by FALSELY claiming that he was colluding with Russia.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.27  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.17    one month ago

Trump was never a dem any more than he's GOP now.

Trump is a con man who only cares for himself.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
7.1.28  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7.1.25    one month ago

Or I can just read them and laugh and respond if I wish.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.29  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.28    one month ago

That's all on you. If you want to continue making lame comments about brains and exorcisms, while carrying and dragging around Trump 'baggage' have at it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
7.1.30  Right Down the Center  impassed  CB @7.1.29    one month ago
✋🏼
 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
7.1.31  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.17    one month ago

Trump was never a D or an R.  He was and is a Trump.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
7.1.32  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.1    one month ago

Bingo!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
7.1.33  1stwarrior  replied to  bbl-1 @7.1.31    one month ago

As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.  He has had both letters behind his name.

"Trump's political party affiliation has changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987, switched to the  Reform Party  in 1999, the Democratic Party in 2001, and back to the Republican Party in 2009."

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
7.1.34  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.21    one month ago

Yep. No valid evidence, no charges, no convictions equals no crimes committed under our justice system. As I stated previously, all that matters to the hard core leftist liberal anti Trump crowd if the court of public opinion. Nothing else matters.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
7.1.35  bbl-1  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.33    one month ago

Yeah, whatever and bull.  He is Trump.  His loyalty is to 'one'.  The political parties were his involvement in his grifts.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.36  CB   replied to  bbl-1 @7.1.35    one month ago

Here is "poor" Donald making a worse ass out of himself yet again for his 'enABLERS' to defend and cover:

Trump reshares post on Truth Social that appears to suggest or predict a civil war in America

Cheryl Teh

Bukele is El Salvador's millennial president — a controversial figure who once switched up his Twitter bio to call himself "the coolest dictator in the world."

Trump's re-post was picked up on by conservative political activist George Conway, the husband of former Trump aide Kellyanne Conway

"Nothing to see here. Just a former president of the United States sharing a social media post advocating or predicting civil war in the United States. No biggie," he tweeted.

Trump's comment was also swiftly rebuked by Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of Trump's staunchest critics in the GOP. 

"Any of my fellow Republicans wanna speak out now?" Kinzinger tweeted . "Or are we just wanting to get through 'just one more election first...?"

Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell also weighed in on Trump's post, tweeting : "Donald Trump is calling for Civil War. Of course, like Vietnam and the walk to the Insurrection, he won't be man enough to fight it." 

Trump's post-presidential press office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Insider.

Yeah,'they' would like us to ignore the AUTHORITARIAN hiding in plain sight as the love-child of some conservatives, but the "ass" won't clam shut!  Thus, it gets mocked!

On what conservative 'planet' is this kind of lost of freedom and liberty even a thing to be considered possible?

 
 
 
Thomas
Sophomore Guide
8  Thomas    2 months ago

People thought that he wasn't serious when he said he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and his supporters would still support him. He wasn't joking, as should be patently obvious by the way his supporters on NewsTalkers genuflect to his utterances as gospel, no matter the number of times he is proven to be a liar and a cheat. He created a world where the people who worship him can live their own phantasmagorical lives, unimpeded by the truth and still corrupted by his association. 

Let Go!, dear little fishies, of the necrotic carrion that you consume, swimming around the orange bull, picking at the rot that he gives forth from his orifices. This putridity is not just his. It is yours, also, festering and infecting more and more, a gangrenous open wound that must be amputated to save the patient. 

Come.

Let us drink the icy warmth of fact.

Come! Awake and arise to the real world.  It ain't always rosy, but at least it is real. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
8.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Thomas @8    one month ago
Let Go!, dear little fishies, of the necrotic carrion that you consume, swimming around the orange bull, picking at the rot that he gives forth from his orifices. This putridity is not just his. It is yours, also, festering and infecting more and more, a gangrenous open wound that must be amputated to save the patient.  Come.

i like this para graphic descriptive above;

They have been snagged, cause snortin hookers off backs of Perched Put in Prostitutes, a most plausible probability, that Trumpers will ignore and claim knot too be lost out at sea, is all part of what the GOP did sell Hooker, 'snorted" Line, and Sinker it almost did, cause asz theyre goated on, and ewe do not kidd, it is pretty easy to see for real, what Trump n Cump, actually did. 

Asz they played on the fears and insecurities, always projecting the blame and claim of their deeds, as done by others, and not they, and i b ;eave ignorance ruling our once not sewer grate country, should only be the rule,,,of the fool   n not the leverage tool , cause the GOP put the P in the ool, and keep chantin about Trump, the pisser off and pissed upon Orange urine cake stolen from Putins urinal, where, whence found, was Trump's stool and all, cuz urine not a good place, when drippin off Trumps', and the GOP face 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
9  bbl-1    one month ago

If Trump testifies under oath like a certain former Secretary of State did for 11 hours, the man, the myth and the legend will implode.  The implosion will be immediate.  The real estate shyster could not last two hours.  His attention span is measured in minutes. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10  Texan1211    one month ago

what will happen when the roof is brought down on Trump's head??

After 6 years of "we really have him THIS time" nonsense, I expect liberals will be foaming at the mouth and wondering why Trump is still free .

 
 

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