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Katie Hobbs elected as Arizona governor, NBC News projects, defeating Trump-backed Kari Lake.

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  95 comments


 Katie Hobbs elected as Arizona governor, NBC News projects, defeating Trump-backed Kari Lake.
While Lake managed to cut Hobbs' lead by around 10,000 following a ballot count on Sunday, experts have suggested that Lake will not be able to overcome Hobbs' lead with around seven percent of votes left to count. According to the Arizona Mirror's analysis, Lake will need to win just over 58 percent of the remaining votes to surpass Hobbs, something Lake has failed to do in any of the post-election counts.

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BREAKING  : Katie Hobbs elected as Arizona governor, NBC News projects, defeating Trump-backed Kari Lake.   https:// on.msnbc.com/3hxqhai


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Kari Lake Silent as Arizona Ballot Drop Confirms Almost Certain Defeat








Kari Lake Casts Doubt On Election After Polling Issues: 'We Will Fight'



Kari Lake, the Republican candidate for governor in Arizona, has yet to respond after Katie Hobbs' team declared the Democrat is the "unequivocal favorite" to win the midterm election.

Lake, who was endorsed by   Donald Trump , and is a 2020 election denier, is currently behind Hobbs by just over 26,000 votes with around 93 percent of the ballots accounted for, according to the Associated Press tally.

While Lake managed to cut Hobbs' lead by around 10,000 following a ballot count on Sunday, experts have suggested that Lake will not be able to overcome Hobbs' lead with around seven percent of votes left to count.

According to the   Arizona Mirror's   analysis, Lake will need to win just over 58 percent of the remaining votes to surpass Hobbs, something Lake has failed to do in any of the post-election counts.

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Democratic Gubernatorial candidate for Arizona Katie Hobbs (left) seems poised to win the election for Arizona's governor as it seems unlikely Republican candidate Kari Lake (right) will pick enough votes to beat out Hobbs.   Getty

"At this point, there's one play left in the game and Lake needs a Hail Mary," Republican pollster Paul Bentz told the   Arizona Mirror.   "I don't think she'll get it."

Dave Wasserman, the editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report, t weeted   on Sunday that it is "extremely tough to see" how Lake will now go on to win the Arizona gubernatorial race.

In a statement   following the latest vote count, Hobbs' campaign team said that the Democrat is the clear favorite to win the election while stopping short of declaring victory.

"With the latest tabulation results from Maricopa, Pinal, and Pima counties, Katie Hobbs is the unequivocal favorite to become the next Governor of Arizona," said Nicole DeMont, Hobbs' campaign manager.

"Katie has led since the first round of ballots were counted, and after tonight's results, it's clear that this won't change."

Arizona officials have said the vote-counting process   could still take a few more days,   with the majority of those uncounted ballots coming from Maricopa county.

Lake, who could be the l atest Trump-endorsed midterm candidate   to go on to lose their race, has frequently cast doubt on the integrity of Arizona's election system.

In an interview with   Fox News '   Maria Bartiromo   on Sunday morning, Lake said she is "waiting for the votes to be counted" while adding she would change   how the election process in Arizona   is run if she was elected governor.

"I consider someone's vote their voice. I think of it as a sacred vote, and it's being trampled the way we run our elections in Arizona," Lake said.

"I've been sounding the alarm for two years. Nothing got done. Very little got done last legislative session, and we need to get in there and restore faith in our elections. We can't be the laughingstock of elections anymore here in Arizona, and when I'm governor, I will not allow it."






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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

This will be the icing on the cake. 

Next stop for Kari Lake , co-hosting the Steve Bannon podcast. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

Not sure how these election denying logic defying attempted cult camp councilors , depicting dereliction of an entire country’s electoral processes, that are separated by states, not of denial, but yet they as directed by the dickheaded dereliction of duty himself, have still such pull and wealth, where asz they still rallied so many of the lost , to meat the flockers in an a tempt to defile what I would have to call a cult , noted in and on file that attempted to modify and lower the cabinet, Barr’s , including his, the wasted jizz , who was so corrupt and did not give a Fck bout election denial, to publicly state that which he had to hate whence under oath and not Oaf, cause there was NEVER any verifiable proof , just bullshit claims from some big goof , off and pushing conspiracy theories on deliriously desperate dinglberryies , clinging to some ass whole heartedly, and even after attacked , believing the pop re tardedly that were and still are late for Truth, and with such consequences, that the GOP is now reaping, and I’ll not be weeping for these traitors of truth and displayers of disdain, that will not soon wash from the cloth weaved to unite a nation, as they attempted Democracy Devastation, and deserve the death of their party, that attempted to derail a nation, with no proof, just the words of a known LIAR, disregarding our countries past, and future desires, all to feed the ego of a sick man, who never did have a plan….  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1    4 years ago

They are reaping what they sowed. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

Republicans will likely six  of nine seats in Arizona and a comfortable majority of congressional votes.   Bad candidates hurt, but the fundamentals are in decent shape. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    4 years ago

The election was a massive repudiation of Republican approved extremism. I was pleasantly surprised.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    4 years ago

Exactly, the Dem gains in both Houses indicate that they are on the right track.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    4 years ago
Bad candidates hurt

I doubt that. Voting now is all about us vs them and getting voters out early and ballot harvesting.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    4 years ago

“Voting now is all about us vs them and getting voters out early and ballot harvesting.”

Elections have always been ‘us vs. them.’ Ballot harvesting is a non-issue as the processes in place preclude widespread corruption. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    4 years ago
I doubt that

It's not dispositive, but at the margins I think it matters.  I agree that the (d) or (r) matters much, much, more and incumbency was a huge boost in this election, but the quality of  candidates can matter when elections are decided by a couple points. Take Pennsylvania.  McCormick was leading Fetterman in head to head polling, but lost to Oz by less than a thousand votes thanks almost certainly to Trump's support of Oz.  SO the instead of starting from an even or slightly ahead position, the Republicans were way behind because Oz was  so unpopular. We will never know, but McCormick probably wins Penn relatively easily.  

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.2.3  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.2    4 years ago

probably wins, I agree.  Multiple factors involved including Trump support among his supporters as well as the money well spent by the DCCC in TV ads to support the Republican candidates they wanted to go against.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @2.2.1    4 years ago
Ballot harvesting is a non-issue as the processes in place preclude widespread corruption. 

It's impeccable.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

It took a long time...but Sunday's drop proved decisive.

Is anyone surprised?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago

What surprises me is that Lake's head has yet to spontaneously explode ... there's still time.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @3.1    4 years ago

I suppose that can happen when one loses to a pine tree.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    4 years ago

The pine tree was not unhinged. Kari only has herself to blame.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @3.1.2    4 years ago

A pine tree has no business being a Governor. She wouldn't even debate. Who would vote for her?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    4 years ago

Remember the guy you voted for who did not debate in 2016?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hallux @3.1.4    4 years ago

Who would that be?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @3.1.4    4 years ago

Let's see, I voted for Rubio in the Primary: He debated.

I voted for Trump in the General Election:  He debated everyone.


Who is it then?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.5    4 years ago

Some guy who shall not be mentioned, and he did it twice ... once in 2016 and again in 2020.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.8  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    4 years ago

“She wouldn't even debate.”

She wouldn’t get in the gutter.

And just how, ‘prey’ tell does an AZ gubernatorial debate effect you in any way? Never mind. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.9  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    4 years ago
Let's see, I voted for Rubio in the Primary:

So you have Florida residency or you voted illegally?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.10  Kavika   replied to  afrayedknot @3.1.8    4 years ago
And just how, ‘prey’ tell does an AZ gubernatorial debate effect you in any way? Never mind. 

It doesn't but the republicans took a beating in the midterms so they have to whine about something.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @3.1.9    4 years ago
So you have Florida residency or you voted illegally?

In the primary, he posted..............you know. That vote thing that determines who the end candidate is in his state.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    4 years ago
It doesn't but the republicans took a beating in the midterms so they have to whine about something.

They should whine, at least internally, about Trump. He is now a three time loser, 2018, 2020 and 2022.  The longer that Repubs allow Trump to define them or pick primary candidates, they longer they will lose.  Just exorcising him, while necessary, is insufficient.  They will have to also develop an agenda and articulate their recommended solutions beyond white working man grievances and making every cultural issue a battle for the soul of the country.  

Real voter worries about Dem leadership and policies wasn't sufficient when too many reubs were still talking about 2020 and not facing the reality of Jan 6, 2021.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.13  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.11    4 years ago
In the primary, he posted..............you know. That vote thing that determines who the end candidate is in his state.

I'm well aware of that, but in Florida, you CAN NOT vote in an election unless you are a resident of Florida and Rubio was running for the US Senate in a federal election to represent the state of Florida. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @3.1.13    4 years ago

I think perhaps someone should have been clearer.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.15  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @3.1.13    4 years ago

He was also  running for PotUS in 2016. That is what Vic was referencing.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.16  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.12    4 years ago
Real voter worries about Dem leadership and policies wasn't sufficient when too many reubs were still talking about 2020 and not facing the reality of Jan 6, 2021.

According to many conservatives on NT, Jan 6th wasn't a big deal at all. Most of those attacking the capital were tourists. And then there were those that felt the SCOTUS decision on women's rights was no big deal. Seems that they best pull their heads out of their ass before they suffocate.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.16    4 years ago
According to many conservatives on NT, Jan 6th wasn't a big deal at all.

Maybe that depends on how one defines conservatives.

Most of those attacking the capital were tourists.

Well, they certainly weren't mostly locals.

And then there were those that felt the SCOTUS decision on women's rights was no big deal.

I think that the Court decision was less of a big deal that the haste that some states were movin g to take advantage of it.  Kansas should have been a big warning and Lindsey Graham talking about a national ban in Oct was just politically stupid. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.19  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.15    4 years ago

Thank you for clearing that up, I'm so happy to know that Vic wasn't doing anything illegal or stupid during that time.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.20  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago
But Some ............... need it to drag on, and on, and on, and on, AND ON !

A couple of things, first it's still be brought up on NT by conservatives trying in their feable way to defend it. 

Second, it isn't done by a long shot since the trials are ongoing. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.22  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.18    4 years ago
Maybe that depends on how one defines conservatives.

Those deflecting from the attack on the capital. 

Well, they certainly weren't mostly locals.

Obviously

I think that the Court decision was less of a big deal that the haste that some states were movin g to take advantage of it.  Kansas should have been a big warning and Lindsey Graham talking about a national ban in Oct was just politically stupid. 

Kansas should have been but when dumbasses think they know what is good for women they put both feet in their mouths and then gag on them. Lindsey should worry about Georgia before thinking out loud which in this case is the epitome of stupid.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.23  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago
NO !

YES!

The Legal ones that are  flittering down as courts have already ruled and ruled and ruled against individuals... or just the Political one that is nothing more than just that.........."Political" ?

And they are still ruling on them and can you define which cases are political, since they are all being charged with a crime?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.25  afrayedknot  replied to    4 years ago

“Is done and OVER !”

It is not done. And it will not be over until the perpetrators and all the participants are held accountable.

Did you watch that day? Were you exhilarated? Disgusted? Or were you like most of us…left only sad. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.22    4 years ago

I was in a hospital bed on 6 Jan.  I had become friends with a Greek surgeon during my 2 month stay at Johns Hopkins.  He stopped by during his lunch hour for a visit.  I had CNN on with the volume down as we chatted.  Suddenly, I noticed what was happening at the Capital and turned up the volume.  I was extremely embarrassed for my country as I watched what I silently thought could only happen in other countries, happen in my own.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.28  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @3.1.7    4 years ago

He didn't debate a certain candidate at all?  Is that what you are saying?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.29  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.1.13    4 years ago

Rubio was running for President in 2016

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.30  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    4 years ago
I think perhaps someone should have been clearer.

I think somebody should read!

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.31  afrayedknot  replied to    4 years ago

“You know, having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a fungo.”

~from Bull Durham by Ron Shelton

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.33  afrayedknot  replied to    4 years ago

“I speak English !”

If only you could convey a thought. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.36  afrayedknot  replied to    4 years ago

Again, If only you could convey a thought. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.37  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.26    4 years ago

Sadly not everyone felt that way starting at the top. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.40  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.37    4 years ago

I think that what you call the top, I call the bottom.

 
 
 
squiggy
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3.1.41  squiggy  replied to    4 years ago

Watching MSNBC is like watching the same 30 episode loop of The Office on CC.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.42  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  squiggy @3.1.41    4 years ago

A few days before the election, MSNBC during an interview with a Wisconsin DFem US Senator candidate, ran a bottom screen caption: "Extreme Gerrymandering Taints Wisconsin Senate Race".  Damn Repubs must have redrawn the state boundaries.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.44  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.43    4 years ago

Cleaver rapscallions. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.46  Ronin2  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.12    4 years ago

Yes, Republicans need to dump Trump. But they also need to dump tone deaf Establishment Republicans that would rather have Democrats in charge than risk losing their positions of power. McCarthy and McConnell should be at the top of the list. Along with any Republican that supported Democrats over Republicans.

As for messaging. Messaging doesn't matter anymore. Slandering your opponent until they are thought of as domestics terrorists does. Democrats just proved that. Republicans need to adopt the same tactics. Make sure the weakest most radical Democrats win their primaries; and then label them the Fascists they are. Continue with the message until that is all any voters hear.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago
Is anyone surprised?

Do you have a conspiracy theory on this, Vic?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago

Right wing head cases never lose legitimately, they are always cheated. jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3    4 years ago

Anyone who voted on that is a piece of shit.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.3.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.1    4 years ago
Anyone who voted on that is a piece of shit.

Who voted on what, Vic?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.3.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.1    4 years ago

Vic, think about that statement and then reverse it. How would you feel?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    4 years ago

That would require him to have feelings

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @3.3.2    4 years ago

In Vics world only Democrats cheat, and they do it everywhere. 

I think they call that paranoia. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.3.6  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.4    4 years ago
That would require him to have feelings

And by comments on NT we know that conservatives do not have feelings. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    4 years ago

You are right Perrie. I was a bit harsh.

Republicans really only have one of two choices. Either put an end to mail-in-voting which democrats have promoted & mastered over the past two elections or become players in it. They can't win if democrats bank votes for 5 weeks and Republicans depend on people coming out en masse on election day.

I personally would love to run harvesting operations here in MA for the GOP.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.7    4 years ago

You continue to assume that mail voting = cheating, even though there is no evidence of this and the election officials in these states have gone to great pains to explain the procedures. Often the people overseeing these elections are Republicans and you still think they are cheating. 

It's a cult. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3.3.9  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.7    4 years ago

I CAN SEE IT ALREADY! YOU GO! original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.3.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3.3.9    4 years ago

Thanks JBB, I've been missing the recent absence of your copy n 'paste internet memes.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.3.11  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.3.10    4 years ago

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.3.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3.3.11    4 years ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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3.3.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.13    4 years ago

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afrayedknot
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3.3.15  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.7    4 years ago

“harvesting operations here in MA for the GOP.”

Be sure and wear your fit bit as your steps counted will greatly outnumber the valid ballots you hope to gather.

To your health, vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.17  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @3.3.15    4 years ago

There are still a lot of people who don't vote. My role will be to find the Republicans among them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.18  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.8    4 years ago
You continue to assume that mail voting = cheating

No. That's not true John. Whatever it is, democrats have used it effectively. Republicans will have to learn to excell at the same game. They will have to find voters and get them voting early.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.3.19  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.18    4 years ago
Republicans will have to learn to excell at the same game.

They have had as many years to learn as the dems, so it seems that either you don't know what you're talking about or the republicans are slow learners. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.3.20  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.17    4 years ago

I'm with you, Vic. Hit the streets and harvest those votes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.21  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @3.3.19    4 years ago

Republicans never had an objection to mail in balloting until Trump told them to be upset about it. 

There is a simple explanation. In 2016 Trump wanted to create a boogeyman he could use to question the election if he lost to Hillary Clinton. He chose "mail in voting" to be the fall guy. Obviously he couldnt make the case if his voters were using mail in too, so he started telling all his supporters to only vote in person. Its literally as simple as that. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.3.22  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.21    4 years ago

Yeah, it's the republican's boogie man and it's falling flat on its face. They just updated the AZ vote from Pima, Cochise, and two other counties, and Hobbs pickup up another 5,000 votes so she is 30,000 votes ahead of Lake who is tweeting out more conspiracy bs.

Maricopa county will release it in number a few minutes.

Maricopa reported and Lake picked up 10K votes so Hobbs is up by 20,500 votes. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.23  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @3.3.22    4 years ago
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JohnRussell
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3.3.24  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.23    4 years ago

Let the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.3.25  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.23    4 years ago

So the woman in charge of elections in az has won her election. Hmmmm, makes perfect sense.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3.26  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.21    4 years ago

ere is a simple explanation. In 2016 Trump wanted to create a boogeyman

And in 2020, Democrats created a boogeyman who was stealing mailboxes and preventing ballots from being delivered in order to ensure Trump won.  But once Biden won they threw that whole bat shit crazy conspiracy theory down the memory hole and now pretend its only Republicans who've thought mail ballots were insecure. Democrats don't talk much anymore about the emergency session of the House Pelosi called to deal with this imaginary crisis, do they? 

It's the great thing about being a Democrat, you get to engage in the craziest of conspiracies and than after a few months pretend it never happened and attack your opponents for doing what you did.  See 20 years of election denial...

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.3.27  pat wilson  replied to  Gazoo @3.3.25    4 years ago

Ask Brian Kemp about that.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.3.28  Gazoo  replied to  pat wilson @3.3.27    4 years ago

No need for that. It was bs when kemp did it and it’s bs that hobb’s did it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.29  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.3.19    4 years ago
or the republicans are slow learners. 

There is no question that Republicans shit the bed when it came to taking advantage of the new voting procedures that democrats have taken advantage of.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.30  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.3.20    4 years ago

You bet!    Heres to the least engaged and least interested voters!

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Kavika
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3.3.31  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.29    4 years ago

The dems simply used what was legal and the republicans are stuck in the 1950s. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.3.32  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.30    4 years ago

I agree, a toast to those least engaged and least interested and probably the dumbest voters that voted via mail, the millions of republicans. 

 
 
 
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