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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

Some of these people are extremely stupid.

One of the best parts is when they object to Talarico saying God is non binary and then they are unable to explain why. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago
saying God is non binary and then they are unable to explain why. 

It should be shocking how stupid Trump voters are, but this is just to be expected now. You know who hate being called poorly educated the most? The poorly educated. It's because the truth hurts.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    one week ago

My opinion that Trump has succeeded with the voters is because of an inferior American education system - something I discovered when I was a teenager mixing with American teenagers. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.1    one week ago
Trump has succeeded with the voters is because of an inferior American education system

I see it as the Orange man is able to fool more fools, becase of the failure of our schools, cause they don't teach people to fish like De Jesus anymore, they now smash em over the head with an oar, the students, not the fish///

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.1    one week ago

The ignorance is willful, not a product of the educational system.  We have been socially dumbing ourselves down for decades.  Shows like Big Brother are popular but I can’t be in the same room with one.  It’s shit for shallow thinking people who are obsessed with competition, imo.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.4  CB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.1    one week ago

In part, it is because parts of the electorate in our country is actually SUPPORTIVE of stupid 'status quo' politics. The bible states, 'God is Spirit' - it also states: "God is not a man. . . ." I won't bother supplying the scripture verse because 'they' won't look it up or respond to it even if they know it. They like their stupid 'expressions' and traditional lore about God. . . despite what their holy book asserts!

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.5  GregTx  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.3    one week ago
The ignorance is willful, not a product of the educational system. 

LOL, ignorance is a product of ignorance. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GregTx @1.1.5    one week ago
LOL, ignorance is a product of ignorance.

Yes, willful ignorance is still the product of ignorance. People who think being stupid and uneducated is what their God wants of them are willfully ignorant. And that is almost always passed down from their parents who must also have been ignorant so again, definitely the product of ignorance. Until one in the family breaks the cycle and gets outside of the ignorance bubble, they'll never even know how fucking ignorant they are. They are but conceited frogs at the bottom of a well boasting about how much they think they know and how great they are without ever learning about the universe outside. If they accept that the outside exists then they're just a tiny frog on a leaf in the ocean and that's too scary for these folk so they'd much rather cling to their delusions of self importance.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.7  GregTx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.6    one week ago

There was no mention of God in the post I responded to. I get it, you think Christians are willfully ignorant. Especially for white Southern Christians, right?...

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.8  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.6    one week ago

Either its ignorance (willful or lack of understanding) or it's simply they like hurting people whom are different from themselves. They NEVER tell us. . .they just mock, meddle, viciously spite, and 'destroy.'

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GregTx @1.1.7    one week ago
I get it, you think Christians are willfully ignorant. Especially for white Southern Christians, right?...

Only the ones who reject science and basic facts about the earth and biology. That would include young earth creationists, flat earthers, Zionists who believe we're in some holy war with Islam and on the reverse extremist Muslims who believe they're in some holy war against Christians, and anyone who attacks lgtbq persons as some aberrant instead of the perfectly normal human beings they are. If the people I described happen to be Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, I don't care what, if they're doing that shit then they're willfully ignorant.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.9    one week ago
Only the ones who reject science and basic facts about the earth and biology

At least they know the difference between a woman and a man

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.11  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.10    one week ago

And what reason do you suspect that science can not tell the difference between a man and woman-And, by the way, WHO, is the definition decider of what a man or woman is: Of course, let's move forward, y'all think Conservatives are the decider (of facts alone).

Tell us: Is it disturbing to conservatives when science moves (or erases) social constructs around gender?

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.12  GregTx  replied to  CB @1.1.11    one week ago
Tell us: Is it disturbing to conservatives when science moves (or erases) social constructs around gender?

???? What "social constructs around gender" has science moved or erased????

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  GregTx @1.1.12    one week ago

Only if the far left loons get their way.  Everyone else just looks at the loons and shake their heads.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.11    one week ago
science can not tell the difference between a man and woman

Science can.  Some far left loons have had issues knowing the difference.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.15  CB  replied to  GregTx @1.1.12    one week ago

Obviously, science is transitioning males and females into one or the other  . . or, as conservatives would put it 'making trans-dysphoric' humans. And that terrifies 'one-wayers and narrow-minded people. Who do not care that people (unlike themselves) think differently about living, loving, and yes-old age. 

Of course, come on with it: Tell me that because a dude has a 'swinging d-ck' between his legs that he wants (and needs) vag-na. . .simply because people like you need vag-na. And vice-versa, tell me all about how a female needs d-ck because (all) women need 'some,' because of all those eggs they produce. Go ahead, I am waiting. . . .


BTW, go on record: What is MAGA's official definition of a man? Of a woman? (Okay, humor me.)

Additionally, if anybody sees a "loon" from either party coming near. . . with a scapel. . . move out of the way.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.16  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.14    one week ago

It is science that is 'tweaking' between the thighs of males and females (and slicing off breasts) and altering hormonal levels - right or wrong? Seems to me you have to decide how to parse this properly. 


BTW, go on record: What is MAGA's official definition of a man? Of a woman? (Okay, humor me.)

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.17  GregTx  replied to  CB @1.1.15    one week ago

That post is exactly why it's not worth responding here. Tell me CB, do people like you need God?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.18  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  GregTx @1.1.17    one week ago
Tell me CB, do people like you need God?

Isnt he a Christian ? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.16    one week ago
BTW, go on record: What is MAGA's official definition of a man? Of a woman?

Same definition that has been used for hundreds of years until some far left loons decided it was different because their feelings were hurt

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.15    one week ago
science is transitioning males and females into one or the other

It sure as hell isn't

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.21  CB  replied to  GregTx @1.1.17    one week ago

I take it MAGA does not have an easy answer for what a male or female is, because you glossed over it. . . hmmm . jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg   (So much for the big sh-t talkers!)

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.22  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.19    one week ago

You're writing, and yet "some definition that has been used for hundreds of years (construct) you failed to list. Give us your definition of what a man/woman male/female is. . . please proceed. . . . :)

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.23  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.18    one week ago

I'm not sure. Is he?

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.24  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.18    one week ago

A MAGA supporter will figure it out only when s/he seriously engages discussion about faith, religion, and bible. . . otherwise, its MAGA supporters smoke and mirror time around here.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.25  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.20    one week ago

Yawn. De-nial is NOT a river in Africa, it's been stated. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.26  CB  replied to  GregTx @1.1.23    one week ago

Don't worry about it, GregTx. . . apparently not everybody is here for deep, comprehensive, discussions. . . some of. . .'us' like to just skim the surface of issues. . . just sayin' -[ ✘ ] jrSmiley_123_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.27  GregTx  replied to  CB @1.1.21    one week ago

Mmmm,  a male will have male genitalia and a female will have female genitalia.  Biology and whatnot....

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.28  GregTx  replied to  CB @1.1.26    one week ago

Indeed...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.29  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.22    one week ago

Why are you playing games asking for a definition I am sure you already know?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.30  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.25    one week ago
De-nial is NOT a river in Africa, it's been stated. 

Agree, trying to change definitions because of feelings instead of science is denial of science.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.31  CB  replied to  GregTx @1.1.27    one week ago

And so a male is not a male without male genitalia and similarly for females and genitalia . . is that right. . . now then: What do you call males with scientifically created and enhance genitalia for both males and females (assuming you know that science is building on techniques to make both forms more sensitive and purposeful). Did you know this, Greg?!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.32  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.29    one week ago

Why can't you answer it since you " already know it"? - Go on record already- definition please . . . .  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.33  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  GregTx @1.1.23    one week ago

I think thats up to him not you. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.34  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.30    one week ago

So, . . . you do not have a definition you can share for what a man and female is, that you wish to share with the rest of us. You could simply say so, it's okay! ;)

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.35  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.32    one week ago
Why can't you answer it

I can.  I just refuse to play games

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.36  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.33    one week ago

It is a delay tactic, that is failing royally.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.37  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.34    one week ago
You could simply say so

I could if it were true.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.38  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.33    one week ago

Absolutely 

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.39  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.35    one week ago

And yet you are here. . . tell me. . .what is it you are doing here if not having open discussion with us?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.40  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.39    one week ago
what is it you are doing here if not having open discussion with us?

Read 1.1.35 again.  The answer is there.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.41  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.36    one week ago
It is a delay tactic,

Delaying what?

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.42  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.41    one week ago

. . . .

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.43  Split Personality  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.10    one week ago
Talarico, a seminary student , was making the argument that Republicans citing the Bible and Christianity in order to champion an anti-trans bill was counter to the Bible's teachings. 

The context surrounding his statement that "God is nonbinary" was this (emphasis ours): 

I listened to 15 hours of testimony on this bill. The worst part, for me, was the number of Christians who used scripture to justify hurting children. Even on this floor today, a member tried to justify a hateful amendment in the name of "God's Law." So let's talk about that.  The first two lines of the Bible, the first two lines in Genesis, use two different Hebrew words to describe God. One is the masculine Hebrew noun for divinity. The second is the feminine Hebrew noun for spirit. God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between. God is nonbinary. In Genesis 1:26, God speaks of God's self in the plural, saying, "Let us make human beings in our image to be like us." That's the infinite multitude of God. The masculine, the feminine, and everything in between. Trans children are God's children, made in God's own image. There's nothing wrong with them. Nothing at all. They are perfect, they are beautiful, and they are sacred. Bullying children is immoral. It's a sin. A special kind of sin.

Talarico posted a shortened clip from his full statement to his  social media   pages the following day after the Texas House passed the bill.

The post stated, "Texas Republicans have passed their anti-trans bill. Over and over Christians used scripture to justify bullying trans kids. I told them in my faith, God is non-binary." 

'God is nonbinary': What James Talarico said while opposing Texas anti-trans youth sports bill in 2021 | Snopes.com

Other Democrats pointed out the most important documents American documents we should cherish,  declare that all men are created equally.

Many pointed out that any such discriminatory  law will almost certainly be unconstitutional and waste of time and effort.

Alas, Texas Republicans don't care.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.44  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.43    one week ago

I passed a billboard in Mertens Tx today showing a healthy teenaged boy clad only in a towel around the waste.

The bill board claimed that Gina Hinjosa wants boys to share locker rooms with "your" teen aged girls 

because she voted against the same unconstitutional law. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.45  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  GregTx @1.1.27    one week ago

Mmmm, a male will have male genitalia and a female will have female genitalia. Biology and whatnot....

The real question is why are conservatives so obsessed with what’s in your underwear? I have a family member that is trans and you wouldn’t know it if you met them. [removed][✘]

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.1.46  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.18    one week ago

Who - God?

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.47  CB  replied to  GregTx @1.1.17    one week ago

What kind of question are you asking? Ask it again, so I can know that you really meant it the way it is written, please.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.48  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.1.42    one week ago

Exactly

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.49  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.10    one week ago
At least they know the difference between a woman and a man

It's cute that conservatives think of that as some kind of 'gotcha'. The fact is, rational educated persons accept science and biology which shows that gender can be rather fluid in nature. There are many species that can even change gender completely, when necessary, some displaying parthenogenesis and others autogamy, fertilizing themselves. Over 1500 species also display homosexual behaviors. In humans there is a whole range of intersex with a wide spectrum of variations in chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, or external genitalia. Only a truly ignorant or intentionally stupid person would ignore the science and biology of humans and try to reduce 8 billion unique individuals down to a moronic 'man and woman' definition.

With that said, no one on the left thinks a human born without a uterus can get pregnant. Even in the rare true hermaphrodite intersex where a person possesses both sex organs, if they don't have a whole uterus they can't get pregnant. I didn't even realize that had to be said before I heard some morons claims the left think men can get pregnant which is just such total horse shit on the face of it. Of course it was irresistible fodder for the idiots, like children asking if their friends love pizza and then saying "well why don't you marry it!" if they agree. That's how childish the "The left think men can get pregnant!" lie is. How they don't feel sheepish for even repeating it is beyond me.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.50  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.49    one week ago

MAGA supporters doing the asking on this site. . . can not define what a man or woman is (in their own words) or apparently using a book definition. . . so, they just 'mouth' the talking point and hope that goes unnoticed: "Gotcha!"

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.51  GregTx  replied to  CB @1.1.47    one week ago

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GregTx
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1.1.52  GregTx  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.45    one week ago

Probably not,[✘]

 
 
 
evilone
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1.2  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago
One of the best parts is when they object to Talarico saying God is non binary and then they are unable to explain why. 

Apparently, God's got a Texas sized dong, but God's not a commie-socialist.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  evilone @1.2    one week ago

Apparently, these blind cult members do not bother to think about what the term non-binary means.   They claim God is non-binary (in concept) but object to the term which precisely defines their concept.

Same with communism.   None of these people are able to define it but they all hate it.   The level of ignorance (and profound non-thinking) in these samples is astounding.   Trouble is, Trump was reelected after trying to steal the 2020 election with coercion, fraud, lying, and incitement.   That fact suggests this sample is representative of far too many people who vote.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  evilone @1.2    one week ago

People like this ascribe their own biases to God. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.2.3  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.1    one week ago
That fact suggests this sample is representative of far too many people who vote.

You're preaching to the choir... lol. I'm still holding out hope that sanity will return and we'll go back to some semblance of moderate establishment government.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.2.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.1    one week ago
None of these people are able to define it but they all hate it.   The level of ignorance (and profound non-thinking) in these samples is astounding.

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Igknorantzruls
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1.2.5  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    one week ago
People like this ascribe their own biases to God.

I don't think God is real Happy, butt, not necessarily anti Gay

 
 
 
evilone
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1.2.6  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    one week ago
People like this ascribe their own biases to God. 

I think it's a human thing... It takes effort to recognize our biases and think past them. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  evilone @1.2    one week ago
Apparently, God's got a Texas sized dong

I thought it was supposed to be Florida...

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Krishna
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1.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.2.5    one week ago
I don't think God is real Happy, butt, not necessarily anti Gay

IMNSHO She may be BI herself . . . 

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.2.9  Thomas  replied to  evilone @1.2    one week ago

Well, now that you mention it....

Circle round one more time....

 
 
 
RU4Real
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1.2.10  RU4Real  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.1    6 days ago

It's like their arguments of hating, needing to get rid of "Obamacare" but don't dare touch their ACA.

Or even worse, they cry, scream, rail against having a boy in the same locker room as girls, same bathroom because of what may happen.  Yet they gleefully and willfully voted a manboy as their POTUS (Pissant of Their Untrustworthy Shithouses), who burst into dressing rooms, back stage at female pageants, grabbed women by their genitals and bragged that they loved it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2  TᵢG    one week ago

Stubborn ignorance.   Cultish trust.   

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @2    one week ago
Stubborn ignorance.   Cultish trust.

And blind allegiance. The trifecta of poorly educated losers and failures.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1    one week ago

I know Klepper cherry picks these interviews, but my god these people are ignorant. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    one week ago
I know Klepper cherry picks these interviews, but my god these people are ignorant. 

Do you honestly believe there are a bunch of clips we just didn't get to see of intelligent rational Trump supporters clearly and intelligently expressing their concerns and opinions and giving answers the rest of us would think were cogent and well thought out?

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

I'll bet there was just more tape of the exact same as we saw but maybe not quite such egregious examples of stupidity that they just didn't have time to include in the show laying on the cutting room floor than there is of any cogent rational Trump supporters making valid points in support of Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    one week ago

I think Trump rallies are magnetic to the dumbasses and Klepper picks the best examples. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    one week ago
I think Trump rallies are magnetic to the dumbasses and Klepper picks the best examples. 

Now that's 100% true.

I think the real cherry picking comes from Fox News and rightwing media that try and pre-screen their interviewees and only show the most faithful and even that can go wrong.

Fox News MAGA Interview Unravels

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.4    one week ago

I just am amazed that anyone is stupid enough to believe Trump at this stage.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.5    one week ago

It is truly amazing.  It's why, in part, I do not care about the opinion of magas and trumpists.  It is important to know what they think, but only for purposes of opposition and resistance.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1.7  1stwarrior  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.6    one week ago

But wouldn't knowing also give a better understanding of how to reduce the opposition and resistance by "working with the opposing parties"?

'Course, it does take two to tango - all sides need to start working together and quit this damn fighting.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.7    one week ago
all sides need to start working together and quit this damn fighting.

It seems more like a sports game than wanting what is best for the country.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.8    one week ago

When has Trump ever wanted what is best for the country? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.9    one week ago

You do realize you are supporting my comment don't you?

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.11  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.8    one week ago
It seems more like a sports game than wanting what is best for the country.

Of course different people have different opinions as what's best for the country . . .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Krishna @2.1.11    one week ago

all opinions are not equal , some are right and some are wrong and damaging

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.12    one week ago

And some think they are right, when in reality, they are oh, so wrong.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.13    one week ago
And some think they are right, when in reality, they are oh, so wrong.

I think it's pretty clear now which side of history Trump and his ball handlers will fall on, you can't get much more wrong than what's happening in the country right now.

Let me ask any Trump supporters still clinging to some hope he actually makes America better, do you really believe him when he said he'll give every American $5000 if the Republicans win the midterms?

Do you actually believe anything he says while he's rambling on at these rally's?

The fact that many of his most ardent supporters seem to continue their support but when asked they'll tell you they don't think he'll do many of the things he said he'll do and they know he's lying or "embellishing" and exaggerating just shows what kind of spineless dumb shits continue to support him. It makes no fucking sense, but they'll stand there with a straight face and tell you they trust and believe him while at the same time tell you they know he lies. It's fucking insane. It would make more sense if someone were to tell me that they were all 'neurolized' upon leaving the venue, at least then they'd have an excuse.

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The fact that their apparent inability to think rationally seems naturally occurring is the truly scary part.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.15  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.14    one week ago

It reminds me of something alright: A closed mind/s. (In need of a mental 'crowbar'!)

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.14    one week ago
I think it's pretty clear now which side of history Trump and his ball handlers will fall on, 

Depends on who is writing the history 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.17  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.16    one week ago
Depends on who is writing the history 

Considering how the right ridicules education, literacy isn't really their thing. They're more the torch wielding mob sort of folk so I doubt many will be remembered for their thoughtful analysis or witty prose.

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Yeah, a whole lot of presidential historians in the making right there... /s

While they may never be presidential historians, they're clearly training hard to be good MAGA Republicans.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.18  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.13    one week ago

much like maybe yourself

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.19  Thomas  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.14    one week ago
I think it's pretty clear now which side of history Trump and his ball handlers will fall on, you can't get much more wrong than what's happening in the country right now.

I don't know. I saw a Facebook post today that was defending Joseph McCarthy and supporting his views. And that was from one of my supposed friends.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @2.1.18    one week ago

To a certain extent I am sure that is correct. I also have a fairly open mind at times.  Especially when not being force fed an opinion.   You willing to admit the same thing?

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.21  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.20    one week ago
 You willing to admit the same thing?

What exactly am I admitting? That I can be incorrect? Certainly. I have been wrong before and I will be wrong again. But that is mostly on factual matters, though I have even changed my opinions about certain things upon realization of the "incorrectness" of my stance. Whether something is factual or not is generally more easily determined than the soundness of opinions, primarily because opinions are formed from a whole melange of things: experiences, values, assumptions, emotions, and information.  

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.22  GregTx  replied to  Thomas @2.1.21    one week ago

And yet opinions drive what society is....

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.23  Thomas  replied to  GregTx @2.1.22    one week ago

And yet opinions drive what society is....

Yes. Very much so.

I can say from an objectivist point of view that opinions driving society is a bit frustrating because there is so much counter-factual information that seeps into opinions, eg Trump and his "alternate facts", calling the media he doesn't like "Fake News" at all times... This is intentional, corrosive, and designed to make people not really know what to believe so that, eventually, people will stop trying to figure out who is telling the truth and instead just go with the one source, the 'tribal" source, if you will. Once people are only attuned to their tribe, facts cannot penetrate the tribal will.That is the point where leaders become like gods to the people who follow them, and they can say anything and it will be accepted by the followers. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.24  CB  replied to  Thomas @2.1.23    one week ago
Once people are only attuned to their tribe, facts cannot penetrate the tribal will.That is the point where leaders become like gods to the people who follow them, and they can say anything and it will be accepted by the followers. 

Sounds like the start and continuing concept of a cult! At one time this country's majority was cult-driven. As then and returning (to its roots in some sectors) it is happening again that some group of people want to stuff its minorities back down in the 'stack' - while ignoring their obvious rights to be treated as free and respected.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

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