Hunter biz partner details Joe Biden's China dealings: Goodwin
By: Michael Goodwin (New York Post)
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Wait until Scranton hears about this.
One of Joe Biden's ways of contrasting himself with President Trump has been to declare the election a battle of Park Avenue values vs. Scranton, Pa., values.
Now we learn that Biden has secretly been playing footsie with China.
The statement Wednesday night asserting that the former vice president was a willing and eager participant in a family scheme to make millions of dollars by partnering with a shady Chinese Communist firm is a singular event in a presidential race already overflowing with drama and intrigue.
The dynamite assertion, believable because it aligns with earlier information we know to be true, came in a statement by Tony Bobulinski, who describes himself as a former partner of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and Joe's brother Jim in the China scheme. Bobulinski unloads his bill of accusations in blunt but precise language and detail.
He confirms that he was one of the recipients of the May 13, 2017, e-mail published by The Post eight days ago. That e-mail, from another partner in the group, laid out cash and equity positions and mysteriously included a 10 percent set-aside for "the big guy."
Sources have said the "big guy" was Joe Biden. In a matter-of-fact manner, Bobulinski states that the "e-mail is genuine" and that the former vice president and the man leading in the 2020 race is indeed "the big guy."
That claim alone rips out the heart of nearly everything Joe Biden has ever said about Hunter's many businesses and Joe's knowledge of them. His repeated insistence that the two never spoke of the son's global sources of money didn't pass the laugh test.
After all, they traveled together to China on Air Force Two, where Hunter landed a $1.5 billion commitment from a government-controlled Chinese bank. Then there was Hunter's $83,000-a-month gig on the board of a Ukrainian energy company — despite his lack of experience in Ukraine or knowledge of energy.
It was no coincidence that the vice president was the Obama administration's point man in both countries. Wherever Joe went, Hunter went along, not to do good, but to do well. Very well.
There were similarly lucrative deals in Russia, Romania and Kazakhstan — that we know of.
Now, because his role in the China deal has been credibly confirmed, it's beyond dispute that Joe didn't just know what was going on. At least in this case, Joe was a player and had his hand out.
To that point, in perhaps the most devastating paragraph of the 689-word statement, Bobulinski writes that Hunter Biden also referred to his father as "my chairman and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing."
"I've seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business," says Bobulinski, who was the CEO of the company being formed. "I've seen firsthand that that's not true, because it wasn't just Hunter's business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line."
That's a remarkable line, one suggestive of the idea that the plan was always to sell Joe Biden's fame and influence. In effect, Hunter, and sometimes Joe's brother Jim, were turning the office of the vice presidency of the United States into a pot of gold for themselves.
What is not clear yet is whether Joe Biden had secret stakes in any of Hunter's other deals. As for this one, while the date on the May 2017 e-mail would be nearly four months after Biden left the White House, it's not known when discussions among the partners and with the Chinese first began. Certainly they started before the e-mail.
And while such deals would be legal for Joe Biden when he left government service, the facts take on extra significance during a campaign where China policy is a frequent topic — and a big dispute between Trump and Biden.
Earlier, during the Democratic primaries, Biden scoffed at the notion that the Asian power is a threat, saying, "China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man."
When Trump blocked flights from China during the early days of the coronavirus outbreak, Biden accused him of "xenophobic fear-mongering" and labeled the president a "racist" for calling the disease the "Wuhan virus."
Bobulinski, a former wrestler at Penn State University who spent four years in the Navy, insists he has voluminous evidence to back up his explosive charges, reportedly including documents, e-mails, messages and other proof.
Late Wednesday night, he uploaded many to a file- sharing service.
He also says that he turned over all his evidence to two Senate committees Wednesday that requested it.
An earlier report by one panel, the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, chaired by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), revealed things about the Biden partnership that Bobulinksi says he didn't know.
As he puts it: "The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn't and wouldn't do that to their partners."
He blasts much of the media and Big Tech for shielding Biden from questions after The Post published the China e-mail and one on Ukraine. Both were on a laptop computer Hunter left with a Delaware repairman and never retrieved.
"I could no longer allow my family's name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now," Bobulinski wrote.
While it's far too early to say what effect the dramatic disclosures will have on the race, Trump is certain to raise them at Thursday's debate.
Suffice it to say that Biden's response will command America's attention.
Full statement from Tony Bobulinski to The New York Post
My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future.
I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence officer, the son of a 20+ year career Naval Officer and the brother of a 28 year career Naval Flight Officer. I myself served our country for 4 years and left the Navy as LT Bobulinski. I held a high level security clearance and was an instructor and then CTO for Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats.
Tony Bobulinski
If the media and Big Tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story. Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family's name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.
After leaving the military I became an institutional investor investing extensively around the world and on every continent. I have traveled to over 50 countries. I believe, hands down, we live in the greatest country in the world.
What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to "the Big Guy" in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other "JB" referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe's brother.
Hunter Biden called his dad 'the Big Guy' or 'my Chairman,' and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I've seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I've seen firsthand that that's not true, because it wasn't just Hunter's business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.
I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.
The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn't and wouldn't do that to their partners.
I would ask the Biden family to address the American people and outline the facts so I can go back to being irrelevant — and so I am not put in a position to have to answer those questions for them.
I don't have a political ax to grind; I just saw behind the Biden curtain and I grew concerned with what I saw. The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.
God bless America.
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Joe should seek Chinese citizenship.
Today we'll hear how he can't be believed along with the producer from Fox News or the DNI
Chris Wray still won't utter a word that might upset the left. All his chips are on Joe Biden.
Just stop . Just fucking stop Vic.
1. Your own material does not support your premise.
2. No one cares.
3. Trump has a secret bank account in Communist China and paid more in taxes there than he paid in America.
Is that the battle cry? I thought it was we couldn't trust people you don't like?
No one cares.
Obviously, the certain people care.
Trump has a secret bank account in Communist China and paid more in taxes there than he paid in America.
Prove it!
Joe Biden sold out his country!
While doing business between 2013 and 2015 Trump paid $188,561 in taxes to China. He paid $750 in taxes to the US in 2016 and 2017.
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Was Communist China not communist in 2013? 2015?
Was the Biden attempt to do business in China illegal? Biden was out of government !!!
Donald Trump's "standard" for his own business behavior or at least his own explanation of his own behavior (like paying no taxes) is that whatever he does is ok, because the law allows it.
Now you want to attack Biden because China is communist and his son tried to do business in China.
Do you know how ridiculous you sound ?
"What is not clear yet is whether Joe Biden had secret stakes in any of Hunter's other deals. As for this one, while the date on the May 2017 e-mail would be nearly four months after Biden left the White House, it's not known when discussions among the partners and with the Chinese first began. Certainly they started before the e-mail."
"What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to "the Big Guy" in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other "JB" referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe's brother."
PROVE IT!
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Was China not communist when Ivanka Trump was trying to do business there ? While her father was president and while she was a senior adviser to the president !
Read your own damn headline Vic. "Says He Worked With Big Guy Joe To Solicit Millions From China In '17 .
The 'president' also had two other secret bank accounts, forget where, that were not disclosed.
Still cherry picking? The article itself says that we don't know when those discussions began and I doubt that the likes of Hunter Biden would have any appeal without the possibility of affecting US policy.
Where is the kickback for the President that Joe Biden got?
My advice to you Vic is to just stop. This article is ridiculous to anyone other than the most die hard Trump fans.
But still able to run for president in 2020 and wouldn't that be a great asset to have in your back pocket if he should win. Not everyone thinks of the now and present, some are looking to the future.
I'm sorry John, I'm not taking it. Thanks anyway.
This article is ridiculous to anyone other than the most die hard Trump fans.
Furthermore, 27 percent of voters believed Hunter Biden’s decision to accept the position, which at times paid as much as $83,000 a month, may have broken U.S. laws regarding public corruption or conflicts of interest. Only 14 percent of those polled claimed the shadowy business dealing were “not an issue of concern.”
The results, which mirror a recent pol l by the Associated Press showing that 69 percent of voters believe the Ukraine venture was “inappropriate,” do not bode well for either Hunter Biden or the former vice president, who has struggled on the campaign trail to explain his son’s foreign dealings.
Because you want Trump to win, your throwing anything you can at the wall in the last two weeks of the campaign is somewhat understandable.
The material in this article does not support what you think it does though, and it will have no effect on the election.
On top of that, Trump and his children have tried to do their own business with China. The hypocrisy here is off the charts.
Then try and get it removed. You guys know how to do that.
and it will have no effect on the election.
That remains to be seen. I say Joe Biden sold out his country to China!
On top of that, Trump and his children have tried to do their own business with China.
Trump and his children were in business long before he decided to run for President. None were drug addicted scum that made millions when daddy became VP!
Ditto...................
But joe Biden swore to us he had nothing to do with his son’s business and cnn told it was all “Russian disinformation.”
what a surrpise
There was that nasty lie, wasn't there?
What is even more serious are the allegations of Tony Bobulinski - that Joe had a yen for China!
You're still going with the NY Post as your source?
How much did they pay Hunter's partner for that information?
Yes I am!
How much did they pay Hunter's partner for that information?
Is that another wild claim?
The mass media/left:
Gaslighting engines spooling up and .......... ENGAGE!
As this doesn't seem to be working to dissuade people from voting for Biden, is this now an attempt to lay the groundwork for 4 years of investigations/grumbling/whining when he wins?
And how do you know that? Most still haven't voted
Why to sidestep the question.
Let's call it an educated guess based off the fact that polls haven't really moved much and that more people have now voted early than voted in all of 2016. It certainly doesn't favor the current incumbency.
This is not swinging any 'undecided' voters over to the 'president'.
Have you seen the Trafalgar poll?
thehill.com/homenews/media/522016-trafalgar-chief-pollster-predicts-trump-victory-polls-predominantly-missing
[🐓 tendies 🍗]
One poll is not a trend.
No, but in 2016 it was the outliers like Trafalgar that got it right!
https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/real-clear-politics-pollster-who-got-it-right-in-2016-does-it-again/#:~:text=Real%20Clear%20Politics%3A%20Pollster%20Who%20Got%20It%20Right,states%20he%20carried%20%E2%80%94%20heading%20into%20Election%20Day.
Except when it says what they want it to say
Hopefully they won't have any power to conduct investigations.
Control of the Senate is still a toss-up.
So you're hoping for a complete coverup. Why are you so afraid of an investigation, if he's truly innocent he will be vindicated. An innocent person would want vindication not a whitewash.
Cover up of what?
Damn I remember those words quite clearly back in the bad old days when Trump was under investigation. How soon they forget LMAO
No if Biden is elected he won't wait to be impeached he'll fake a stroke and step down as soon as this heats up. I think the reason Biden gets so mad about this is he screwed himself, at the time all this went down he didn't think he had a shot at the presidency so he played fast and loose as he was on the way out. If he had stayed out nobody would have looked or cared about his "Retirement Payday Scams" or the influence pedaling by his family but he came back and he's going to have to answer for this. The Left Wing Media said Joe Biden's tax returns didn't show any payments from China but what I want to know is does Hunter Biden's returns reflect the 10% payment he was supposed to hold for "The Big Guy". It's not like it would be hard for Hunter to buy Gifts or make a series of cash payments to his Dad or Mom, he wouldn't be the first kid to buy his parents a car or pay some of their bills. The important thing right now to the FBI, Media, Democrats is that they beat Trump, they figure they'll deal with the fallout later.
I couldn't agree more, plus old Joe has made a Faustian bargain with his party’s activist left, and should he win, the price America will pay will include significant income confiscation, redistribution and retribution - AKA “social justice.”
Sure he will.
But you don't need Trump's returns or his daughter's tax returns or...
If that's the plan they learned it from the current Republican party.
Wow, that's just goofy hysteria. Will Congress cease to function also? Will the sky fall?
Isn't there just a bit of bias in that "proclamation"?
I was wondering if Biden were to become "Disabled" while in office and stepped down what would his benefit package look like?
I'm only going by what they're saying.
Will Congress cease to function also?
If they win the WH and the Senate? Can we expect the end of the filibuster, packing the Court, adding two states and a green new deal as promised?
Will the sky fall?
Only the Constitution and life as we have known it.
Isn't there just a bit of bias in that "proclamation"?
From where you stand, I'm sure.
Let us know when the Times actually gets to see them
The chief benefit would be not having to do the job. It's a big job and Biden is already exhausted. He only had one role - convincing America he was a moderate and an alternative to the man the deep state hates. I'm sure that should he win, he will be more than glad to step down.
I suspect everyone on NT knows it.
The joke will be on the voters who didn't know it.
I looked it up and if a president resigns before their term of office is over they get the full standard presidential retirement package with all the goodies, presidents who are removed from office due to impeachment forfeit all benefits.
That will be an added bonus for Joe, before the full effects of Alzheimer's sets in.
Please not: You never see a progressive on NT dispute this point.
I am quite sure that Biden's ego is far too large for him to be eager or even willing to step down.
Plus, there is no evidence he has Alzheimers.
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God forbid, should he win, I doubt he will serve a year before stepping down.
Plus, there is no evidence he has Alzheimers.
Oh, I beg to differ. Forgetting where one is, what day it is, what one is running for might just be the early stages of Alzheimer's.
But what difference does it really make John? The DNC is running him simply as the alternative box next to the President's name on the ballot. If it works, I'm sure we will soon see Ms Harris take over and Joe Biden will finally retire into obscurity. Would you mind that? Be honest, please.....
I think all these "attack" articles aren't going to make a big difference at this point, whether the attacks are on Biden OR Trump. It certainly isn't going to change the votes of the 28 million who have already voted, and there seems to be a lot of opinion that people's minds are already made up and they will vote accordingly. There has been SO MUCH fake news and biased opinions posted, like never before in my memory, I would think most people are so numbed by it all that the attacks are simply no longer effective, and if anything at this point are no more than mere entertainment, if my feelings are any indication.
And another thing. There has been so much OVERKILL of China by Trump and his administration that it just might have the opposite effect of what the intention was in the first place.
We can only guess as to how many undecided voters are left or how many can be persuaded.
I guess it all comes down to this single factor for those who still have doubts:
Is hating Trump enough? Is disapproval of a president’s personality sufficient reason to transfer power to Joe Biden and the radical Democratic Party?
You should not have to ask, after all, hating Hillary was enough.
Hillary was the issue of the 2016 campaign?
And here I thought it was about the economy and terrorism!
It's not just the 'president's' personality that is despised.
You are again making my point.
Question: Has any candidate for the U.S. presidency ever run on less than Joe Biden this year?
"You are again making my point."
Nope
Yup, you're wrong again.
How about this one - Joe Biden is guilty of all that you accused Trump of!
I think it's obvious to any rational human being.
BTW the Amy Coney Barrett nomination just got voted out of Committee to the full Senate by a vote of 12-0. None of the radical democrats showed up. As the President correctly points out - they stick together!
Yes they do, and a 12-0 vote proves it, lol.
You bet!
That's the scariest thing about them, with them you're not voting for a individual who will make decisions you're voting for a party puppet who will follow orders.
It's party before country with the democratic party. In the long history of the senior party, it has been a story of secession, racism, Union advocacy, special interest groups and now identity politics and redistribution.
As Nancy Pelosi once said - sticking together is our strength!