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Trump rejects plan for early vaccination at White House

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  6 years ago  •  66 comments

By:   David Cohen (MSN)

Trump rejects plan for early vaccination at White House
"People working in the White House should receive the vaccine somewhat later in the program, unless specifically necessary," he tweeted.

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Good move Mr. President.


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Trump rejects plan for early vaccination at White House

President Donald Trump tweeted Sunday night that White House officials will not necessarily be given the first shot at the new Covid-19 vaccine.

© Morry Gash/AP Photo Boxes containing the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine are prepared to be shipped at the Pfizer Global Supply Kalamazoo manufacturing plant in Portage, Mich., on Dec. 13.

"People working in the White House should receive the vaccine somewhat later in the program, unless specifically necessary," Trump tweeted. "I have asked that this adjustment be made. I am not scheduled to take the vaccine, but look forward to doing so at the appropriate time. Thank you!"

The president's tweet followed a report in the New York Times that leading government officials would be among the first to get doses of the newly released vaccines, which are being counted on to slow the coronavirus pandemic. Almost 300,000 Americans have died during the pandemic, and more than 16 million have been diagnosed with it; numbers in recent weeks have been the highest since the coronavirus was first reported in the U.S.

It was not clear if, according to the "unless specifically necessary" part of Trump's tweet, some members of the administration would indeed receive the vaccination early in the process. Some employees might be deemed necessary to ensure there is continuity in the functioning of the government.

"Senior officials across all three branches of government will receive vaccinations pursuant to continuity of government protocols established in executive policy," said John Ullyot, a spokesperson for the National Security Council. "The American people should have confidence that they are receiving the same safe and effective vaccine as senior officials of the United States government on the advice of public health professionals and national security leadership."

On Sunday, the first of the freezer-packed vaccine vials from Pfizer made their way to various distribution sites across the nation. Vaccination is expected to start Monday, with frontline health care workers and residents of nursing homes expected to be at the top of the priority list.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    6 years ago

Good to see proper priorities.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    6 years ago

every member and supporter of trump's administration should be at the end of the line for the vaccine

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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1.2.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 years ago
every member and supporter of trump's administration should be at the end of the line for the vaccine

no worries there/

im not taking that vaccine until the vaccine death rate has been proven to be MUCH lower than the virus death rate.

so, after the "public" trials / experiments are over in a few yrs I might think about it. but to be honest, I doubt I will ever take that shot or any other.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.2.1    6 years ago

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Greg Jones
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1.2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 years ago
every member and supporter of trump's administration should be at the end of the line for the vaccine

Really stupid comment

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
1.2.4  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    6 years ago
spoken like someone

compared to you wanting to deny people equal access to medical treatment based on political bs?

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.2.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.2.4    6 years ago
compared to you wanting to deny people equal access to medical treatment based on political bs?

Dev didn't politicize it, Trump did.

As for this:

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devangelical
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1.2.6  devangelical  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.2.4    6 years ago

people promoting secession go to the end of the vaccine line. patriotic americans get it first.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.6    6 years ago

Then that wouldn't be good for progressives, would it?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.8  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.7    6 years ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.2.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.8    6 years ago

Who are you talking to?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.9    6 years ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.2.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 years ago
every member and supporter of trump's administration should be at the end of the line for the vaccine

That's what?  A legal death wish?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.6    6 years ago
people promoting secession go to the end of the vaccine line.

And another legal death wish.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.2.13  Sunshine  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.2.1    6 years ago
so, after the "public" trials / experiments are over in a few yrs I might think about it. but to be honest, I doubt I will ever take that shot or any other.

Me too.  We don't really know the long term effects of the vaccines. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.2.4    6 years ago
spoken like someone that will making that short trip from the ICU to a refrigerated truck.

Ok...this gets moderated and called derogatory and rude but this:

STFU you worthless piece of shit.

gets absolutely nothing and it is most definitely a CoC violation.

Fine moderation work there, Vic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.15  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.14    6 years ago

Believe it or not when I sought to ticket the responding remark, I found that it had already been allowed. I'm assuming that was a mistake. I'm asking for moderator review to go through all of it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.16  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.15    6 years ago

there's really no need to explain the typical moderation within this group.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.17  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.16    6 years ago

No there isn't. Just to make sure it was all Kosher, I had a respected moderator go over it.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.2.19  Sunshine  replied to  Kathleen @1.2.18    6 years ago

It can be a difficult decision either way.  I understand, I have a weak immune system from past chemo treatments.  This is the first time that I am seriously considering not taking a vaccine for myself.  

I think many of us are not quite sure yet and many have no doubt, especially those at a high risk of infection.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.2.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sunshine @1.2.19    6 years ago

I think that because England got about a 8 day jump on us, we can look to them and see if there were any bad outcomes and it looks good to me. 

I can understand your concern Sunshine. I have had bladder cancer and I do have an autoimmune disease, which would all put me at high risk. I am going to be taking the vaccine but I will be taking it in the order that my age group is supposed to be taking it. I can hide out a little longer than take it away from some senior. (yeah I might be a senior at 60, but you know what I mean).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.22  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.20    6 years ago

I think there may be a slight difference between the Pfizer vaccine and the emerging Moderna vaccine. Both require two shots, but Pfizer's has some painful side effects that last about a day. I don't think Moderna's has the side effects.

I was in my doctor's office not long ago and I said to her "you'll be getting the vaccine soon."  She said "no, I'll have to wait because I'm pregnant."

I don't think everyone will be taking it as soon as they have the chance.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.2.24  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.22    6 years ago

The issue with pregnant women is that there was no testing on them, so they really don't know if it will hurt the fetus. The reason that there was no testing is that it is considered unethical. Same with children but the good thing there is it seems that most children have a level of immunity.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.25  Vic Eldred  replied to    6 years ago

Another would be the fact that:

"As of December 14, 2020, there have been 479,789  deaths in Europe overall  due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. December 2 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 6,195 deaths. Italy has the highest  number of deaths in Europe  at 64,520, as of December 14."




And nobody to blame!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.26  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.24    6 years ago
but the good thing there is it seems that most children have a level of immunity.

A very good thing!

The way this virus effects various age groups is one of the few things our "health experts" seem to know about it. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.27  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @1.2.6    6 years ago

After the last 5 years of the shit the left put this country through- the list will be very, very short of who would be able to get the vaccine.

"Patriotic Americans"; what BS.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.2.28  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 years ago

People chose to be in the WH even after it became a germ fest.  Screw them.  They can wait at the end of the line.  I would have no problem with Barron getting a shot to prevent him getting it again.  He is an innocent victim of his father's stupidity.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.29  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.22    6 years ago

Those recovering from or who have had Covid are not advised to take it.

Seems the vaccine can 'overamp' an already activated immune system.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.30  Vic Eldred  replied to  cjcold @1.2.29    6 years ago

Maybe one of the experts can one day tell us if they are immune via infection.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.31  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.30    6 years ago

Seems the antibodies only hang around for three months or so and reinfection has been documented in many cases. 

The experts are learning more about this novel virus as fast as possible.

Did a scientist drop you on your head when you were a baby? Why the hate?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.32  Vic Eldred  replied to  cjcold @1.2.31    6 years ago
Why the hate?

Why don't they admit to not knowing?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    6 years ago

If any group of people deserved to be at the end of the line, it is anyone currently in the WH.  The place is infected massively and still they showed up to work like the scarred sheep that they are.  Is any job worth it knowing that you could die and take innocent people with you?  Any Trump toadie should be at the end of the line.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    6 years ago

I've had Covid back in early in November and probably have some immunity, but will take the shots when available

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @3    6 years ago

Take the shot Greg. We are still not sure if having it gives you enough antibodies at this point.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
3.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    6 years ago

Studies have shown that immunity only lasts a few months if you have had it.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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3.2  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Greg Jones @3    6 years ago

My aunt keeps getting tested for immunity... granted, she's working in a hospital, but she still has immunity from March.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Now there is an example for all of us:

The priority has been that healthcare workers & nursing home residents go first. Every American should wait their turn, especially the overpaid members of the ruling class!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    6 years ago

There is a huge difference between 'rejects' and 'rescinds'.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

The good news is here:

"Some 145 U.S. hospitals and other sites will receive vaccine doses Monday, followed by 425 on Tuesday and 66 on Wednesday, according to Gen. Gustave Perna, chief operating officer of Operation Warp Speed, the federal initiative to deliver Covid-19 vaccines."




Twenty one million health care workers in America will absorb that first round. This is an accomplishment for President Trump similar to that of JFK’s challenge to put a man on the moon in just ten years.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

The first doses of New York’s  coronavirus   vaccine  supply went to a health care worker who spent the last 10 months working the front lines as the illness ripped through the state. The Northwell Health employee, who was the first to receive the vaccine on Monday, was identified as Sandra Lindsay, RN, a critical care nurse at Long Island Jewish Medical Center.



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Sandra Lindsay, a critical care nurse at Long Island Jewish Medical Center, received the first dose of New York's coronavirus vaccine supply.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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8  Nerm_L    6 years ago

Well, this is going to be a monumental task.  A sustained level of 6 million doses administered each each day means herd immunity might be achieved in 100 days.  That's Biden's first 100 days; taking credit has been built into Biden's schedule.  And if that becomes impossible then Trump will be the automatic scapegoat.

We also know the Pfizer vaccine has short term side effects.  We shouldn't be surprised or alarmed that medical workers will be sidelined for a day or two.  That's why an entire hospital staff cannot be vaccinated at the same time.  But, of course, the unbiased and honest press will turn that into another controversy.

Now will be the most difficult part of the pandemic.  Patience, people.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Navajo Nation will receive first doses of COVID-19 vaccine early this week

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