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William Barr resigns

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  6 years ago  •  45 comments


William Barr resigns
Just had a very nice meeting with Attorney General Bill Barr at the White House. Our relationship has been a very good one, he has done an outstanding job! As per letter, Bill will be leaving just before Christmas to spend the holidays with his family...

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Gee I hate being right all the time.  I knew Barr wasn't going to try and do the job of AG with all the criticism.

History will record that he served honorably.


"President Trump   announced Barr's decision on Twitter, saying that the two had a "very good" relationship and praising Barr for doing an "outstanding job." Trump had sharply criticized Barr in recent days.

Barr plans to leave the Justice Department on Dec. 23, according to his resignation letter."

thehill.com/homenews/administration/530179-barr-to-step-down-as-attorney-general


Deputy AG Jeff Rosen to be acting AG. Huge shoes to fill.

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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Bill Barr will be home for Christmas.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2  TᵢG    6 years ago

Probably the best scenario for Barr.   Being fired by Trump —especially while Trump is engaging in his petulant lunatic rampage— helps put Barr among better company than those who stuck it out with the madman.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2    6 years ago

He wasn't fired!  He resigned!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    6 years ago

I do not hold you to be that naïve Vic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    6 years ago
and you really should give it a watch..

Oh, but you taught me the importance of holding onto words!

I don't yet have it all up there but the rest of Barr's letter contains this:

  Barr went on to tout Trump’s record, calling it “all the more historic because you accomplished it in the face of relentless, implacable resistance.”

“Your 2016 victory speech in which you reached out to your opponents and called fro working together for the benefit of the American people was immediately met by a partisan onslaught against you in which no tactic, no matter how abusive and deceitful, was out of bounds,” Barr wrote.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    6 years ago

One wonders who wrote the resignation letter ahead of time, Barr or Trump.

All of the flowery praise in the second and third paragraphs are over the top making it possible the the WH wrote the letter well before the meeting.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    6 years ago

Are you trying to say that accurately reading the semantics expressed by words means that you must then believe whatever the words connote??

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.4    6 years ago

That's always been your argument.

What I'm saying is just what I said here:



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TᵢG
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2.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    6 years ago
That's always been your argument.

Then clearly you have failed to understand my point.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    6 years ago
What I'm saying is just what I said here:

Yes, Vic, I do know that you have claimed that Barr has resigned.   I have never suggested you have not expressed that thought.   No need to argue a point that was never made.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.7    6 years ago
Yes, Vic, I do know that you have claimed that Barr has resigned.  

Nope, I claimed that he would resign if the President began showing a loss of faith in him. 


No need to argue a point that was never made.

I'm not. I'm demonstrating my conviction that a resignation would be genuine and imminent if the President criticized him.


You are claiming what? Be specific.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.8    6 years ago
Nope, I claimed that he would resign if the President began showing a loos of faith in him. 

Okay, you claimed that he would resign and that he has resigned.   Is there a point you are trying to make?    Your opinion is noted.

I'm not. I'm demonstrating my conviction that a resignation would be genuine and imminent if the President criticized him.

Your point is noted.

You are claiming what? Be specific.

What is with this pointless obnoxious nit-picking?    Here is my opening comment.   Is this not clear enough to understand?:

TiG @2 ☞ Probably the best scenario for Barr.   Being fired by Trump —especially while Trump is engaging in his petulant lunatic rampage— helps put Barr among better company than those who stuck it out with the madman.

This tells you that I view this 'resignation' as Barr being fired by an irrational Trump.    You disagree.   That is fine, Vic, your disagreement is noted.   I think that is naïve, but if you wish to hold this view it really does not bother me and I see no reason to argue about.

Anything else?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.9    6 years ago
Anything else?

No. It shouldn't have taken all of that for you to say what you declared in 2.1.1 - that Barr was in effect fired. Instead of using the tactics of asking for evidence, I'll simply let it go.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    6 years ago

Don't try to blame me for you making a mountain out of a molehill.    Believe whatever you wish, Vic, it does not matter;  certainly not to me.

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.12  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    6 years ago
Your 2016 victory speech in which you reached out to your opponents and called fro working together for the benefit of the American people was immediately met by a partisan onslaught against you in which no tactic, no matter how abusive and deceitful, was out of bounds,” Barr wrote

Hahaha

Sure, sure. Yep donald attacking people in congress and anyone that dared go against him is reaching across the isle...

The delusion in some...

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.13  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.11    6 years ago

I believe he was probably given a choice. Leave or be fired.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  Ender @2.1.13    6 years ago

Those are usually the options.   But if a disagreement like that occurs, it is essentially a dismissal.

It could also be:   'be loyal to my final plans' or 'you are fired'.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.15  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.3    6 years ago
One wonders who wrote the resignation letter ahead of time, Barr or Trump.

my first thought. barr negotiated a save face clause in the blind loyalty agreement.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.1.15    6 years ago
barr negotiated a save face clause

Signed on the grassy knoll!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    6 years ago

If all Barr did was misrepresent the Mueller report (which he did) he would go down as the worst attorney general of all time. He did so much more though. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago

You are free to have an opinion. I strongly disagree with every bit of it.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago
Mueller Report:
Fruit of the poisonous tree aka the fake and fictitious Steele Dossier.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    6 years ago

Just like the agents who wrongly pursued that farce, they all believed Trump must have done something!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    6 years ago

Why bother with this? He's got what? 5? 6 weeks left in his current assignment? Why not just finish it out?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @4    6 years ago

One can't operate as AG with the President criticizing him for not finding what doesn't/no longer exists. Barr leaves the office with his head held high and two investigations reasonably safe from a possible partisan successor - the Durham Investigation (now enlisting more prosecutors) and the tax evasion/money laundering case against Hunter Biden.

He was a class act.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1.1  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    6 years ago

He is an ass that thinks a president is above the law. He was instrumental in getting most of the people that were being investigated in the Iran-Contra affairs pardoned and investigations stopped, just to protect those at the top.

He was the same this time around, protecting who/what he needed to protect.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Ender @4.1.1    6 years ago

good riddance.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    6 years ago

I think he has been a decent AG. It just seems more disruptive to leave than to stay. But whatever he needs to do, I guess.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @4.1.1    6 years ago
He is an ass that thinks a president is above the law.

And you seem to think the President is under the law.


 He was instrumental in getting most of the people that were being investigated in the Iran-Contra affairs pardoned and investigations stopped, just to protect those at the top.

The people at the top?  Admiral Poindexter?



He was the same this time around, protecting who/what he needed to protect.

Um-hum...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.3    6 years ago
He was the same this time around, protecting who/what he needed to protect.

I would say he let the Department in excellent shape. Two investigations safely on track. It will be hard to scuttle them.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1.6  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.4    6 years ago

Under the law? Like people that have lived through police brutality?

Poor donald, had it so bad....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @4.1.6    6 years ago
Under the law?

I'd only hope that Hunter Biden could be treated as badly. However, I have another one of those gut feelings. I sense a plea deal in Hunter's future.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1.8  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    6 years ago

Treated so bad...even though he constantly attacked people, constantly put people down, constantly got rid of people that were not loyal, constantly attacked people in his own party that dared go against him.

Somehow nothing is ever his fault is it...

It is always, ALWAYS, someone else.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1.9  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    6 years ago

A plea deal for taxes? He either pays what owed or faces the consequences.

Not that hard of a choice.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @4.1.8    6 years ago

From day 1 he face resistance and fraudulent investigations from the ruling elite.

We really need not debate our feelings on Trump again. 

Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Good night!

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Ender
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5  Ender    6 years ago

Well I guess he will not be instrumental in pardons this time around.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ender @5    6 years ago

I would not be surprised if Trump fired Barr after Barr, when asked, refused to execute on whatever Trump wanted him to do.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.1.1  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @5.1    6 years ago

I believe it. If donald thought promoting Hunter Biden being investigated would have given him an edge. That and a few other things.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Eventually Joe Biden will have to nominate an AG. I assume Senate Republicans will be most concerned about how that nominee will handle the Hunter Biden case and the Durham Investigation. It will be very difficult to convince the Senate or the American people that a Biden AG will handle a Hunter Biden investigation fairly. It may be best to leave the acting AG in place for as long as possible.

 
 

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