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Putting America First - Again

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  5 years ago  •  68 comments


Putting America First - Again
"I'm creating a director of 'Made in America' at the White House Office of Management and Budget."

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A clearly struggling Joe Biden just concluded his presentation of his latest executive order. This particular executive order was designed to "put America first."  I wonder where he got that idea from? It seems that the new president has discovered that the US has lost a lot of manufacturing jobs to the rest of the world. He may have also discovered that there are things that America must make.  Now he wants to put America first!  An example of how Joe wants to do that is that the federal government owns a lot of vehicles and we should build them right here in the US and make them all electric vehicles. That would mean having charging stations that were as convenient as gas stations, would it not?  This should be interesting.

After Biden's incoherently flawed speech he took questions.

Foremost among the questions was the glaring question of how we get the vaccination level up in the states. Joe says we are going to try and get out a million shots a day by this spring. (an improvement over the almost a million we are getting out now). He said it will be a logistical challenge beyond anything we've ever seen.

He was asked about unity. Joe said we needed to get rid of the vitriol. He then transitioned to a consensus on his pandemic relief package, as if it had anything to do with unity.

He was courageous enough to take a question from Peter Doocy, which was whatever happened to your promise of shutting down the pandemic?

Joe replied:  "I didn't promise to do it in two months. It takes time. It's beginning to move. The last point I'll make is that if we wear masks between now and April we can save 50,000 lives.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

Underwhelming to say the least.

Of all Biden's executive orders, we may have just found the one for Americans.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.1  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

There is nothing wrong with putting America first properly, without the enhancements of bull patties associated on a daily basis with the 'Facts don't matter' Trump Administration.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.1.2  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    5 years ago

Yeah, well, "Four more years" in 2024 is not yet a done deal. 'Better' to keep that one away from any future pandemics. He simply can't cope with pandemics. Whole towns depleted of people (*snap!) like that!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.1.4  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    5 years ago

Yeah I do. Didn't you see and 'experience' the January 6, 2021 fallout? I did. It was all about the new president! 

Well, this little exchange ended quick. Catch you down a jaded path: "NO!"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    5 years ago

I have a nephew that is still putting up junk on his facebook about Biden having dementia .  Let's face it, there is no evidence to the contrary that will satisfy you people. Biden could read outloud the first volume of Encyclopedia Britannica , all the way through in one sitting , and many from the right would still be complaining if he took a bathroom break. 

On his inauguration day, 78 year old Biden was up at the break of dawn to begin the big day, attending church services at 8 a.m., and was still on the go at 10 pm when he appeared live at the Celebration Of America tv event at the Lincoln Memorial. 

Are you ever going to stop? 

It's far easier to prove that Trump has malignant narcissism (since he checks every single box) than it is to show that Biden is "confused". 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

I'll continue to believe my own eyes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago

Most people who are imagining things do. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.1.2  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago

Guess how old Donald will be in 2024. Guess.

Also, how many exhaustively blatant lies have you netted Joe Biden on already? Can you tell if Joe is factually indulgent yet or not? I expect you to walk away or to throw out bull patties from the 'back lot' of your commentary.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 years ago

Those 30 or so first day executive orders took a lot of thought.  None of them are what a 78 year old moderate democrat would have created. One can only guess who had contributed to those. I don't recall Biden promising to ditch the Keystone Pipeline?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.1.4  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    5 years ago

And so you have proof of your accusations. Or do you intend to bore us with tired assertions? Donald tried to bombast his way into a second term and numbingly got impeached a second time for inciting violence at the Capitol. How is that for a 74 year old obsessive compulsive liar, cheater, thief?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    5 years ago

Yes, we already established that on May 18,2020.

Guess you missed it since the Trump Tsunami was guaranteed...

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
2.1.7  zuksam  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    5 years ago
None of them are what a 78 year old moderate democrat would have created.

Biden is just the figurehead the Party makes all the decisions. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.1.8  CB  replied to  zuksam @2.1.7    5 years ago

An assertion, I take it you can EASILY prove. Okay: Produce document links here and now.  Please proceed, "zuksam."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  zuksam @2.1.7    5 years ago

For sure.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago
It's far easier to prove that Trump has malignant narcissism (since he checks every single box) than it is to show that Biden is "confused".

We will also keep an eye on how much "executive time" Biden puts on his schedule, and how much time he spends on the golf course.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    5 years ago

When's he going to quit writing EO's that probably don't have the force of law or are outright illegal, and propose some worthwhile legislation.

After all, Dems control both Houses

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
2.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.1    5 years ago

The way it works Greg, is that the House writes the Bills, then the Senate concurs or writes it own bill, then they compromise & send the finished product to the Oval office.

Remember when all Paul Ryan wanted for a POTUS was someone who could hold a pen?  Or was that Karl Rove?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.1    5 years ago
When's he going to quit writing EO's that probably don't have the force of law or are outright illegal, and propose some worthwhile legislation. After all, Dems control both Houses

If it were actually that easy, Trump would have ended Obamacare AND built his wall, during his 1st 2 years when Republlicans controlled both House and Senate.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

Every single word Biden speaks have been written for him by someone else...he still can't put together a coherent sentence without consulting a teleprompter.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.3    5 years ago
Every single word Biden speaks have been written for him by someone else...he still can't put together a coherent sentence without consulting a teleprompter.

Why write such obvious bullshit Greg?   Do you think anyone believes that Biden is incapable of speaking the English language?    Such absurd claims simply discredit the speaker.

You could have stated that Biden often gaffes.   You could have argued that Biden is not articulate.   There are plenty of reasonable criticisms you could have made.   Why leap to the ridiculous?

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.2  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.1    5 years ago
Do you think anyone believes that Biden is incapable of speaking the English language? 

Sorry but Greg is not doing this. He is saying that there is a very small chance that Biden has anything to do with what he reads on the teleprompter, a teleprompter, that I understand, that has a 48 font so he can see it.

He also probably has very little to do with what is in the EOs he is signing, much less really understand what is in them..

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
2.3.3  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.1    5 years ago

TᵢG:

He's baiting you. When we respond to that drivel, we're not doing useful class analysis. And that is the point.

It's a bit like the whack-a-mole game. Slap down one ridiculous comment here, and another pops up over there.

Distract them from demanding full investigations of the connection between corporate financiers, their funded fascists, and the Oval Orifice in the middle. Keep 'em occupied! Whatever you do, don't stand for any serious analysis of class issues. Whatever you do, don't address the impropriety of Biden's coddling up to Republicans, as many as 4/5ths of whom may be implicated in attempted coup of January 6! We need distractions!

Don't let them do that. So long as torrent of verbal folly continues to work, it will be used to the end I described. Instead of responding to nonsense, we should discuss a plan to counter and dismantle an active, US fascist movement.

These guys bait people with nonsense statements. That's what they do. They do it all the time. They have honed their technique through continual practice. They're very good at it. I suppose you might say that they're master baiters. We shouldn't facilitate that practice.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.4  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.3.2    5 years ago
Sorry but Greg is not doing this.

Really, what do these words translate then to you?:

Greg @2.3 ☞ Every single word Biden speaks have been written for him by someone else...he still can't put together a coherent sentence without consulting a teleprompter.

When someone writes that a person cannot put together a coherent sentence without consulting a teleprompter that is a ridiculous exaggeration suggesting the person cannot speak their natural language in a manner that others can comprehend.  

Your interpretation of what Greg wrote is more grounded than his words but even your criticism is cynical.   On what grounds to you deem that there is but a "very small chance that Biden has anything to do with what he reads on the teleprompter"?    Do you realize that you are suggesting that Biden has no input on what he states to the nation?  

Criticism is fine.  But some seem to have completely lost all sense of proportion and are making nutty claims.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.5  TᵢG  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.3.3    5 years ago
He's baiting you.

Then it is back-firing because my response is to illustrate how such claims make the claimer look ridiculous.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.6  TᵢG  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.3.3    5 years ago
I suppose you might say that they're master baiters.

Clever, Austin.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.3.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.3.3    5 years ago
These guys bait people with nonsense statements.

They are talking about a president who ran for the US Senate. The criticism is earned. He was nominated only to defeat another man.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.8  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.7    5 years ago
The criticism is earned.

Valid criticism is earned.   Criticizing gaffes (as you eluded to) is earned.   Making ridiculous claims accomplishes nothing other than to make the claimer look foolish.  

Why do it?

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.9  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.4    5 years ago
Do you think anyone believes that Biden is incapable of speaking the English language?

This was your response...

It has nothing to do with SPEAKING the English language, but has EVERYTHING to do with comprehending it to the point where he can put it into coherent sentences. Biden has difficulty doing both, and of it were not for the 48 font teleprompter telling him what to say, there would be far more incoherent words/sentences we would be hearing from him.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.10  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.3.9    5 years ago
It has nothing to do with SPEAKING the English language, but has EVERYTHING to do with comprehending it to the point where he can put it into coherent sentences.

You are equivocating.   But, if you want to go with comprehending then let's do that:

Do you think anyone believes that Biden is incapable of comprehending the English language to the point of making a coherent sentence?

Is this a better question?   Do you find this less ridiculous?   So you would charge that Biden does not even comprehend English to the point where he can formulate a coherent sentence on his own??

Why make such ridiculous claims?   To what end?

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
2.3.11  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.7    5 years ago
'They are talking about a president who ran for...'

And I'm talking about such a profusion of electronic static that discussion of substantive class issues becomes impossible. Which, of course, is often the [unacknowledged] point.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.3.12  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.3    5 years ago
he still can't put together a coherent sentence without consulting a teleprompter.

Obviously not true. He has a speech impediment, been widely reported. But hey, maybe he ate too many hamberders and drank too much covfefe. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
2.3.13  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @2.3    5 years ago
Every single word Biden speaks have been written for him by someone else...he still can't put together a coherent sentence without consulting a teleprompter.

Most presidents have a speechwriter and use a teleprompter and or notes. From JFK to Regan to Obama they all do it. So there is nothing unusual at all with someone else writing your speech. Even Trump had a speechwriter, Steven Miller. 

It is obvious that Trump was a horrible speaker and that Miller wasn't much of a writer. Trump used twitter as his form of communication, who can ever forget ''Covfefe'' it's become a meme on Trump's inability to put an understandable sentence together.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.3.14  CB  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.3.11    5 years ago

Trotsky, "they're"  'reeling' you in big fish. I do see why it is needful to engage: this is why we do so too. It is all "they" will interact with otherwise they sit 'idle' in front of their terminals and their caseloads.

I do see you're no one's 'fool,' nevertheless. Wise on you! (Smile.)

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.3.15  CB  replied to  bugsy @2.3.9    5 years ago

'Brother Trotsky called this: "Drivel, popping up"  bugsy you are ignoring the content of what evidence you must offer that establishes this assertion Joe Biden is not speaking for himself (even through a speech (uploaded) on a teleprompter). It is a diminutive time consuming waste distraction.

Biden speaks! Words have power. Deal with their meaning and purpose.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.3.16  CB  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.10    5 years ago

And yet more voters chose the factual 'reader' than the prevaricating 'lipper' for 2020 presidential choice. . . I can only wonder if "bugsy" knows why that turned out on its head?!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
2.3.17  CB  replied to  Kavika @2.3.13    5 years ago

Ah! As my great friend Kavika eyes the "rabbit-hole" looming below him; the hole widens ever so slightly. . . .

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
2.3.18  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  CB @2.3.14    5 years ago
"they're"  'reeling' you in big fish.'

I'm no 'big fish;' call me 'minnow' if you like. But static profusion is a problem. I've seen instances where, unable to direct the narrative as they desired, the fascist right resorted to measures of static overload which crashed the venue. If this is being 'reeled in,' I'm a sucker; but I want that point noted. Flooding forums with nonsense is a form of censorship based on crowding out space for genuine discussion.

Take care, CB.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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2.3.22  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.3.3    5 years ago
I suppose you might say that they're master baiters.

I'm sorry... I couldn't help myself. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.23  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.10    5 years ago
So you would charge that Biden does not even comprehend English to the point where he can formulate a coherent sentence on his own??

Sure would. He';s done it many times.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.24  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.3.23    5 years ago

I wonder if you are paying attention to your own words.

You are insisting that Biden cannot comprehend the English language sufficient to formulate a coherent sentence.

That is demonstrably ridiculous.   You want such absurd declarations associated with 'bugsy' ??

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
3  Just Jim NC TttH    5 years ago

Just when you thought this may be a good thing..............

I guess we shall see.

 
 
 
Thomas
Professor Guide
4  Thomas    5 years ago

I would have thought that you might want to post the actual video so that peoplecould make up their own minds about his condition.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.1  bugsy  replied to  Thomas @4    5 years ago

Every bit of it read from a teleprompter with 48 font print. Not a bit of it was ad lib.

Get him off the teleprompter and things are very different at times.

And no, his "speech impediment" has nothing to do with it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @4.1    5 years ago
Not a bit of it was ad lib.

Why, exactly, is that a problem?   Frankly, I would prefer a PotUS never adlib.   What a PotUS says (and how s/he says it) carries quite a bit of weight.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.2  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.1    5 years ago

"bugsy" is well, "bugging." This is pettiness extreme in action . Remember or herard of the "80-20 rule"—this is 2pettiness. " bugsy " ain't got anything good to say about  President Biden so we can't wait for that to occur; thus it becomes a

gadfly_large.jpg - one in service of a incorrigible liar!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.3  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.1    5 years ago

And how would bugsy know the subtleties of a teleprompted delivery? What occurs in this incident is @44 seconds in is the 'prompter' is acting up (maybe slow as he signals to move it up). However, what a person is choosing not to do at this point is to get ahead of himself or herself. The frustration Joe Biden displays is real however as he apparently has made the faux pas of not having a back up script on his lectern to read from (or he decides not to 'honor' it).

Again, this is "pettiness" and pre-November 3, 2020 election results. "bugsy" scores one for moot-ness

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  CB @4.1.3    5 years ago

I wonder about some people nowadays.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.5  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.4    5 years ago

A "th?id=AMMS_8f652febfd2400f18fb4305e03519ceb&w=183&h=183&c=8&rs=1&o=5&pid=3.1&rm=2 " forum moment . " bugsy " is asking to have a full-blown discussion about "nothingness"

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
4.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  bugsy @4.1    5 years ago

I give him a year before he’s out. Our president has dementia, unbelievable.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  CB @4.1.5    5 years ago

Well, I can understand the emotional drive to attack Biden.   Trump was attacked relentlessly.   In Trump's case much of it was deserved (not all).   The unfair attacks were wrong.  But there were tons of fair, well-deserved attacks.

Now the Trump supporters want to attack Biden ... 'getting even'.   But Biden does not have nearly the number of fair opportunities that Trump provided.   Thus we are seeing every little petty thing amplified into a big deal.

All that does is make the attackers look foolish.   I would give them the same advice that I gave to Trump attackers.   Do not exaggerate; do not attack on petty points.   Focus on the solid failures and attack those.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
4.1.8  CB  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.7    5 years ago

Sure, Trump supporters are hurt. But it is misfocused aggression. Donald Trump screwed himself over and over and over again. It can be proven time and times over! From the 'escalator ride' down to the microphone to announce his candidacy to the first impeachment to this White House lawn 'rebellion' Donald has trolled himself!

There is the distinction. Biden does not troll himself. Biden is not vulgarly insulting. Biden is not "into" hot and fiery political combat for its own sake!

In order to show how fair I can be about this (although this has not occurred!) I do have a CAUTION for the Biden Administration:

Yo! Biden Administration! This oft-repeated statement about "100 Million vaccinations in a 100 days. . ." is going to be a self-setup on day 101 if not up to and touching thereabouts (minimal equivocation in the numbers) if unfulfilled.

At that point if short, I will ask: Why the "H" did the Biden Administration walk into that self-defeating political punch! Couldn't they see it coming from back here?

I hope Biden succeeds, nevertheless! As the 100 days 'clock' has already began humming.

 
 

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