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When truth is the enemy

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  3 years ago  •  72 comments

By:   Frank Wright

When truth is the enemy
At its base, the progressive cancel culture is less about de-platforming extreme ideas and more about persecuting people with whom they disagree. Their aim is not correction but destruction – and they want to make sure nobody hears ideas with which they disagree.

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It is sad how closed minded the American progressive left have become.  They are so uncertain of the legitimacy of their beliefs that out of weakness they impose censorship and cancel culture upon all who disagree with them.  To them the truth is enemy #1.  They view political opposition as evil and view belief in God and the Bible literally as even a bigger threat to their dark world view.  A great article! 


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At its base, the progressive cancel culture is less about de-platforming extreme ideas and more about persecuting people with whom they disagree. Their aim is not correction but destruction – and they want to make sure nobody hears ideas with which they disagree.


Ensconced among the cherry trees ringing the Tidal Basin in Washington, DC, rests the Jefferson Memorial. The rotunda of this stately edifice shelters a statue of the great man. Among his many inscriptions adorning the walls are these words:

"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

With a craven cancel culture now in full sway, one can only wonder what the man who crafted the Declaration of Independence might say about it. Perhaps he would rehearse the Declaration's self-evident truths:

"That we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

George Washington too 'controversial'?

Well, apparently what the Lord giveth the Lifetime Network taketh away. After nearly three years of Lifetime airing our weekly "Truths That Transform" television program – one in which we apply biblical truths to the great moral, ethical, and cultural question of our day – officials at Lifetime have suddenly decided our program content is too "controversial," forcing us off their network.

They objected to our exposé on Planned Parenthood, in which we documented their sale of baby body parts derived from abortions. They objected to our exposé on billionaire radical George Soros and his systematic efforts to undermine American laws and institutions. They even objected to our program on the spiritual life of George Washington.

no-religion_350x219.jpg At the same time the Lifetime Channel is giving us the back of their hand, we received reports from others in the community of Christian broadcasters that other major cable television channels and networks are cancelling entire blocks of religious programming. This is the new face of corporate responsibility in America – viewpoint discrimination, prior restraint, and outright censorship.

This spitting in the face of those with viewpoints differing from the new woke orthodoxy by broadcast and cable television is bad enough, but it gets worse. Others providing business services to those holding non-favored viewpoints are falling all over each other to demonstrate their woke bona fides by denying services to those with the heretical temerity to hold views diverging from those permissible under Progressive woke-ism.

Mail Chimp knows best

Witness the good folks at wannabe-gatekeeper Mail Chimp , the simian-friendly email platform whose Standard Terms of Use were recently modified to include this language:

"Mailchimp does not allow the distribution of Content that is, in our sole discretion, materially false, inaccurate, or misleading in a way that could deceive or confuse others about important events, topics, or circumstances."

How Mail Chimp is singularly qualified to adjudicate matters of truth or falsity across a wide range of cultural issues escapes the notice of most neutral observers. But herein lies the genius of Progressive thinkers: If the viewpoint in question is different than ours, it must be false. Case closed.

Or witness the noble work of the enlightened folks at Wells Fargo in forcibly closing the financial accounts of people highly visible in the conservative and Christian landscape. Or California-based Logix Federal Credit Union refusing accounts to people even doing business with religious organizations. Naturally, the elephant-in-the-room question is: When will woke financial institutions begin targeting the supporters of Christian and conservative organizations?

In a biblical context, many are familiar with the predictive prophecy that restricts buying and selling to those with "the mark of the beast." What we see emerging today is a secular version in reverse order. Instead of everyone having the mark, those with disfavored viewpoints and ideals are anointed with a latter-day scarlet letter. More like the "No soup for you" pronouncements from Seinfeld's Soup Nazi.

freedom-of-speech-2_350x219.jpg However it's characterized, at base the progressive cancel culture is less about de-platforming extreme ideas and more about persecuting people with whom they disagree. Their aim is not correction but destruction. If the Southern Poverty Law Center were true to their own disingenuous and defamatory definition of hate, they would have to include two-thirds of the Progressive left (and themselves!) on their infamous map. Today's Progressives more resemble Orwell's dystopian epic "1984," where Winston Smith, who was outed as non-conforming, is brainwashed back to Oceanian orthodoxy and then awaits his execution.

More speech, not less

One might argue that the foundational question here is: Why are Progressives so deathly afraid of the free marketplace of ideas? They are in urgent need of reading – perhaps for the first time – John Milton's "Areopagitica." In his polemic against the state-sponsored cancel culture of his day, this Puritan(!) declared: "Let [Truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter?"

Milton argued that the best defense of freedom of speech and expression was the debate and discussion of ideas – where good ideas would tend to rise and bad ideas to fall. Perhaps the cancel culture is a latent acknowledgement that Progressive ideas suffer under the weight of scrutiny.

Whatever the case, it's self-evident that the solitary idea nearest to the Progressive heart is to make sure nobody hears your ideas. This is nothing less than Jefferson's "tyranny over the mind of man." For those who understand how hard-won freedom actually is, we too must swear eternal hostility against the efforts of those who would steal it.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    3 years ago
In a biblical context, many are familiar with the predictive prophecy that restricts buying and selling to those with "the mark of the beast." What we see emerging today is a secular version in reverse order. Instead of everyone having the mark, those with disfavored viewpoints and ideals are anointed with a latter-day scarlet letter. More like the "No soup for you" pronouncements from Seinfeld's Soup Nazi.

freedom-of-speech-2_350x219.jpgHowever it's characterized, at base the progressive cancel culture is less about de-platforming extreme ideas and more about persecuting people with whom they disagree. Their aim is not correction but destruction. If the Southern Poverty Law Center were true to their own disingenuous and defamatory definition of hate, they would have to include two-thirds of the Progressive left (and themselves!) on their infamous map. Today's Progressives more resemble Orwell's dystopian epic "1984," where Winston Smith, who was outed as non-conforming, is brainwashed back to Oceanian orthodoxy and then awaits his execution.

More speech, not less

One might argue that the foundational question here is: Why are Progressives so deathly afraid of the free marketplace of ideas? They are in urgent need of reading – perhaps for the first time – John Milton's "Areopagitica." In his polemic against the state-sponsored cancel culture of his day, this Puritan(!) declared: "Let [Truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter?"

Milton argued that the best defense of freedom of speech and expression was the debate and discussion of ideas – where good ideas would tend to rise and bad ideas to fall. Perhaps the cancel culture is a latent acknowledgement that Progressive ideas suffer under the weight of scrutiny.

Whatever the case, it's self-evident that the solitary idea nearest to the Progressive heart is to make sure nobody hears your ideas.

https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/12321/when-truth-is-the-enemy
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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SteevieGee
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1.2  SteevieGee  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 years ago

Once again you were able to say anything you wanted to say.  Once again you squandered that opportunity whining that you weren't able to and attacking those who disagree with you.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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1.3  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 years ago
'In a biblical context...'

Shouldn't you have credited President/CEO of D. James Kennedy Ministries President/CEO, Frank Wright , for this gem?

When I went to school, this was called plagiarism. Consequences included an automatic zero and likely a note to be returned the next day bearing parental signature.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @1.3    3 years ago

The quote came from the seeded article, so perhaps you should take your issues up with the author of the article.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.3.2  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.1    3 years ago
The quote came from the seeded article

So what? It still needs to be place within quotation marks and accredited.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @1.3.2    3 years ago

The quote came from the seeded article, so perhaps you should take your issues up with the author of the article.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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1.3.4  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.3    3 years ago

Well here's the thing. MAGA has been cited for this in the past. But rather than flag him, I indicated the need of quotation marks and accreditation. Hallux' point was to make explicit what I indicated implicitly.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @1.3    3 years ago

You really didn’t see the link at the bottom to the seeded article?  Or that it was indented with block quotes?  

 
 
 
devangelical
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2  devangelical    3 years ago
they view political opposition as evil and view belief in God and the Bible literally

bummer huh? I guess fake xtians should have seen their bullshit propaganda dismissal coming when they threw in with alt-media fascists for some kind of dumb-ass grassroots theocracy. tough shit. f'm.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @2    3 years ago

we made the right choice!  

Trump will be one who protects us! 


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLj1H0NJol1/?igshid=1hnlzyag23blc

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    3 years ago

Don't you have a pic of Donald where he looks less of an idiot?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    3 years ago

no such photo exists.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    3 years ago

Donald Trump is a great American hero!  

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.1.4  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

He is a big fat ZERO

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.5  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

Yes, he's adorned with purple hearts for slights to his magnificent 'genius'. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.1.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

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Trotsky's Spectre
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2.1.7  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.1.6    3 years ago

Know the feeling. Sometimes you read stuff and what comes to mind is ... well ... what can I say?!

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arkpdx
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2.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  Hallux @2.1.5    3 years ago

Well those are better earned than one purple owie that John kerry awarded himself. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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3  Hallux    3 years ago

"At its base, the progressive cancel culture is less about de-platforming extreme ideas and more about persecuting people with whom they disagree. Their aim is not correction but destruction – and they want to make sure nobody hears ideas with which they disagree."

Yawn ... how about Trumpists and their censor culture?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @3    3 years ago

We don’t have a censor culture.  That is strictly a tool of the progressive left. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    3 years ago

yeah? tell that to all the republicans that have come out against trump...

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.2  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    3 years ago

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.3  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    3 years ago

You just have cancel culture. Anyone that doesn't tow the maga line you all try to cancel.

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
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3.1.4  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    3 years ago
yeah? tell that to all the republicans that have come out against trump...

Like the perverts of the Lincoln Project?  Those Republicans?

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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3.1.5  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    3 years ago
'... censor culture ... is strictly a tool of the progressive left. '

Ahhh...comrade? Sorry but the record disagrees with you .

We've documented censorship by the right for years.

Strictly a tool of the left? Why post nonsense?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.6  Hallux  replied to  exexpatnowinTX @3.1.4    3 years ago

Just how many perverts were there that you could paint all of them with the same brush? Do you include Liz Cheney?

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
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3.1.7  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  Hallux @3.1.6    3 years ago
Just how many perverts were there that you could paint all of them with the same brush? Do you include Liz Cheney?

REREAD exactly what I posted and then get back to me.   I'll help you with a repost of what I said.

Like the perverts of the Lincoln Project?  Those Republicans?

And the other like Liz, are simply play Republicans.  The only reason they carry an R behind their name is because if they were honest and ran as a D they wouldn't get elected in their respective districts.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.8  Hallux  replied to  exexpatnowinTX @3.1.7    3 years ago

Get over yourself, if there is such a thing as 'play republicans' they are all Trumpists.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.9  Thrawn 31  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @3.1.5    3 years ago

Nonsense is all he ever has.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @3.1.3    3 years ago

It seems that it’s Christians and conservatives who are getting censored and cancelled on line..

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @3.1.8    3 years ago

The vast majority of the GOP base is Trumpist now.  It’s the establishment democrats lite that are play Republicans

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.12  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    3 years ago

Through their own stupidity. Nothing else.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @3.1.12    3 years ago

Our opposition to secular progressive fascism is actual a mark of very high intelligence and wisdom on our part

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.14  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.13    3 years ago

I have read some incredibly stupid comments, but Comment 3.1.13 is, without any doubt, the stupidest, most asinine comment so far.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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3.1.15  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    3 years ago
'It seems that it’s Christians and conservatives who are getting censored and cancelled on line..'

If so, they've got company .

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    3 years ago
They objected to our exposé on Planned Parenthood, in which we documented their sale of baby body parts derived from abortions. They objected to our exposé on billionaire radical George Soros and his systematic efforts to undermine American laws and institutions.

I can’t say that I see what PP or Soros have to do with religion. I don’t know what the real objection would be to those stories, but I don’t see how it could be religious. I’m pretty sure the Bible is silent on both topics.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Tacos! @4    3 years ago

While the Bible doesn’t have much to say about Soros other than what it says about all rich people, I think you can pretty effectively surmise that god is either apathetic or enthusiastic about abortion. I mean cmon, in the Bible the guy is killing babies left and right, he’ll he might even kill you if you suggest he stop. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @4    3 years ago
I can’t say that I see what PP or Soros have to do with religion

I'm fairly certain it has something to do with spreading unverified or doctored misinformation ( doctored videos already discredited by a Texas court )ie. known false hoods about PP and or Soros.

It appears that networks are taking notice of the Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems lawsuits for defamation and misinformation

spread by previously respected lawyers and journalists.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.2    3 years ago

doctored misinformation ( doctored videos already discredited by a Texas court )ie. known false hoods about PP

what are you talking about?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.1    3 years ago

Good question! 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.2    3 years ago

It’s a great example of your seed. Fusion GPS authors  a press release and gullible liberals swallow it hook, line and sinker and they propagate a lie going forward.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.1    3 years ago
The videos released last summer led Texas and other Republican-controlled states to try to halt funding for local Planned Parenthood operations, with Republicans in the U.S. Congress also pushing for a funding cut.

The grand jury reviewed the case for more than two months and its decision was a result of a probe launched last year under Texas Governor Greg Abbott, a Republican, who accused Planned Parenthood of the “gruesome harvesting of baby body parts.”

“After a lengthy and thorough investigation by the Harris County District Attorney’s Office, the Texas Rangers, and the Houston Police Department, a Harris County grand jury took no action Monday against Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast,” the Harris County District Attorney’s office said in a statement.

Planned Parenthood has denied the accusation and called the probe politically motivated.

David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt were indicted by the grand jury for tampering with a governmental record, said prosecutors for the county in which Houston is located. The felony charge is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.  A felony and misdemeanor were later dropped for filing technicalities.

Jury finds for PP in civil case in California.

Criminal case against Dalelion & Merritt to continue in CA.

On December 6, 2019, Judge Christopher Hite ruled that Daleiden and Merritt will stand trial on nine felony counts involving eavesdropping and invasion of privacy. [51] At the February 21, 2020 arraignment, Daleiden and Sandra Merritt pleaded not guilty to nine counts of criminal eavesdropping and invasion of privacy

Crackpots who defame for religious beliefs.

Civil rights lawsuit

In May, 2020, Daleiden filed suit against California Attorney General Xavier Becerra and former Attorney General Kamala Harris , claiming Harris conspired with Planned Parenthood to violate his civil rights by prosecuting him for his undercover investigation

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.4    3 years ago

Oh.. So you didn't read your summaries. Not one court found the tapes were  "doctored," like you claimed.

In fact, in the only case  where the validity of the tapes was examined by the Court, PP didn't contest their validity nor the expert who validated them and the Federal Circuit cited them as an appropriate basis for Texas to deny funding to PP. 

It's not your fault by you were bamboozled by talking points and a media that pushes them to support the Democratic Party. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.3    3 years ago

And big tech social media still allows democrat conspiracy theories about Trump using Russia to steal the rigged 2016 election while the fascist thug bigots block Republicans from questioning the validity of the 2020 election.  A totally biased hypocrisy filled double standard 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.4    3 years ago

Wikipedia?  What a biased unprofessional resource! 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.5    3 years ago

Of course they were heavily doctored/edited.  Split personality deals in truth while you on the other hand . . . . . . . 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.8    3 years ago

Thank you for proving my point, yet again.  Unsurprisingly, your post is completely devoid of substantive argument. Why not be a useful contributor and point out where exactly, a Court (and not PP) held the docs were heavily edited?  Should be easy if your post had any validity.   

This is the benefit the Democrats get from the media pushing a lie for them.  The low information person will retain the first narrative they hear and not pay attention or be too lazy to consider reality when the story get quietly walked back. You know, the people who will still believe the "hands up, don't shoot" narrative, or that Officer Sicknick was beaten with a fire extinguisher, or that a FISA application  would, never ever rely on something as flimsy as the Steele dossier.  The media starts a false narrative  and progressive useful idiots will push it on others until eternity. 

Anyone can see that none of SP links are to a Court finding that the videos were heavily doctored. The only court case where the tape's veracity was at issue is in the case I cited and the Federal Fifth Circuit   Court of Appeals  upheld it's use as a basis to deny PP funding.    But truth doesn't matter to those invested in the "heavily doctored" lie.    . 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.9    3 years ago

jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gifWell said! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gifThat was a % on target takedown❗️

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @4    3 years ago

The seed is not just about religion.  It’s about the progressive left and their big tech censorship and cancel culture against opposing viewpoints both Christian and conservative.  Progressives target both and especially hard on social issues where conservative politics and religious beliefs come together.  Google cancelled Life Sight News is a good example.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.3    3 years ago
It’s about the progressive left and their big tech censorship and cancel culture against opposing viewpoints both Christian and conservative.

I don't think you need to be Christian or conservative to think people such as George Washington or Abraham Lincoln are worthy of having schools named after them. And you don't need to be progressive or anti-religion to think it's urgent that those names be removed from schools. You just need to be a pinhead.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5  Thrawn 31    3 years ago

This article can be summed up with one sentence, “waaaaahhhhh, people don’t HAVE to listen to my opinions and that isn’t fair!”

Fuck off with the cancel culture crap, the fact of the matter is companies care about their reputations and image and are under no obligation whatsoever to give you or anyone else a platform to express your opinions. Especially when you violate the terms of service. 

Honestly, because it seems to bother certain stupid people so much, I hope we see a hell of a lot more of the “cancel culture”.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5    3 years ago

We are building our own separate culture so that in the near future we can’t be cancelled.  We will have our own version of every media, internet, professional legal retirement political you name it counterpart to the existing ones desperate to not do business with a large portion of the population.  I’m a member of AMAC instead of AARP just to name one such.  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    3 years ago
We are building our own separate culture so that in the near future we can’t be cancelled.

Not long ago that was called a counter culture.

www.bing.com/videos/search?q=counter+culture&qpvt=counter+culture&FORM=VDRE

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Trotsky's Spectre
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5.1.2  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    3 years ago
We are building our own separate culture so that in the near future we can’t be cancelled.

Don't forget a separate country. Moreover, are you sure that you can really suffer the existence of a differing version of every media, internet, professional legal retirement political you name it counterpart to the ones you intend to erect?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @5.1.2    3 years ago

You have no choice!  Such other organizations already exist all across all those areas. As for two Americas, that’s what’s happening.  The ones I’m talking about are conservative alternative to original groups that have veered to the left. It’s us creating alternatives to previously existing groups.  Why would liberals create new counter groups when they already control the originals in the 1st place?  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    3 years ago
We are building our own separate culture so that in the near future we can’t be cancelled

Lol no you aren't. You are building a shoddy ass soviet style "network" that lets neo nazis communicate openly. (SPOILER ALERT: THE FBI IS ALREADY WATCHING) 

We will have our own version of every media, internet, professional legal retirement political you name it counterpart to the existing ones desperate to not do business with a large portion of the population.

And it will look just like the Texas power grid, and fail just as easily. Lol you are soooo.... amusing lol.

Trying not to get suspended again. 

AMAC

... lol really? What is that car insurance run out of your garage? 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.3    3 years ago

Try as you may, you will never stop the natural progression of life.  LOL I learned that from my 93 year old grandmother. 

You may make yourself miserable trying but in the long run you will fail. I learned that from my parents. 

Time marches on and nothing stays the same except that the universe is always changing. I learned that from living it. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.1.4    3 years ago

Association of Mature American Citizens.  See for  yourself. They actually got rated by MBFC of all things. https://amac.us

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    3 years ago

A religious person can have an opinion on something, but that doesn’t mean that opinion actually derives from the religion they follow.

And so just because someone opposes that opinion, or its expression, that does not mean that opposition is anti-religion.

I hope that makes sense to people. It made sense in my head.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     3 years ago

"They are so uncertain of the legitimacy of their beliefs that out of weakness they impose censorship and cancel culture upon all who disagree with them."

LMAO What hypicrital Bull Shit.

Fox news chat room used to "Poof" any post that wasn't strictly conservative. 

then the other posters would laugh.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @7    3 years ago

IT BEGINS: The Biden Administration Just Formed An Unholy Alliance With Big Tech

byChris Donaldsonabout 4 hours ago

In another example of how Big Tech oligarchs are in the bag for the Democratic party, the California-based monopolies are working hand-in-hand with the Biden administration to impose a chilling new round of censorship.

Under the pretense of fighting “COVID misinformation,” the leaders of Facebook, Google, and Twitter will be waging war on free speech on their platforms by eliminating honest questions about vaccines, one more way that Dems have weaponized an unprecedented public health crisis to crush their political opposition.
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321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7.1.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1    3 years ago
Facebook, Google, and Twitter will be waging war on free speech on their platforms by eliminating honest questions about vaccines,

I tend to watch and see WTF really happens when I hear things like "WIll Be, might happen, probably may come to be".

Many times as we know Questions are loaded. They are not Honest questions to begin with. Questions can be as deceiving as answers when worded to be. 

I have little doubt that many dems and even many reps would like the truth about vaccines (and everything else as well) to be distributed freely. 

I would hope that blatant misinformation is at least discriminated against by any and all private web sites.

While I am a advocate for free speech I also believe dishonest dangerious purposefully misleading words should be considered dangerious and potentially quite harmful and should always be ASAP countered with the truth.

Knowingly propagating non truth is counter productive to the reality we all share and at times like in a pandemic can certainly be deadly. 

I can't blame private social media websites for being careful, lifes are probably at stake and social media has a legitimate part to play in the public dissemination of facts, especially facts that pertain to human lives.   

Unlike Fox where their poofing posts was really no great big deal, cause chances were no one was going to die over the libs and progressives not being able to post on Fox's chat room. 

Misinformation about a deadly virus could be deadly however. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @7.1.1    3 years ago

The most deadly thing so far has been the resistance to the use of Hydrochloroquiene to resist the worst effects of the disease before it gets to that stage

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.2    3 years ago

There is no evidence that hydroxychloroquine provides any benefit in the prevention or treatment of Covid-19, nor is there any evidence for the benefit of ingesting bleach. 

Since Trump is God to them, Trump worshipping acolytes slavishly and fervently accept any lie from their Dear Leader as the truth.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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7.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.3    3 years ago
nor is there any evidence for the benefit of ingesting bleach. 

sure there is, i used to be a dumb brunette. make America giggle apparently, if it wasn't so serious, is what maga should stand for, but gag, is closer, and from a wrag it seems some phonies are rung, below the latter, footed to slip out, so as we fall and splatter, no matter, long as some wallets get fatter, as they serve US up, another Poo Poo platter al la carte blanche via a golden girl made of pyrite, shower up, cause she might, gargle with bleach while snortin hydroxychloroquine , but don't fret, Trumpp says it's a win win, and he knows about Golden Hookers snortin n a guzzlin all over him, down in the  basement for his base meant, cause at $130,000 a pop, that boy is surreal, besides, he knows the art of the deal, and possibly, the steal !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.2    3 years ago
The most deadly thing so far has been

that fact that president trump  declared that "COVID-19 will just disappear."

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Hydroxychloroquine:

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. These malaria drugs were authorized for emergency use by the FDA during the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the FDA withdrew that authorization when data analysis showed that the drugs are not effective for treating COVID-19. They can also cause serious heart problems.

Researchers are studying drugs to prevent COVID-19 before and after exposure to the virus. It's critical to complete medical studies to determine whether any of these medications are effective against COVID-19.

Don't try these medications without a prescription and your doctor's approval, even if you've heard that they may have promise. These drugs can have serious side effects. They're reserved for people who are seriously ill and under a doctor's care.

William F. Marshall, III M.D.

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/coronavirus-drugs/faq-20485627

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Can hydroxychloroquine treat COVID-19?

Studies reporting no benefit
In early June 2020, researchers in the United Kingdom published results from the largest trial to date on hydroxychloroquine.

Of the 4,674 hospitalized patients who took part in the trial, 1,542 received hydroxychloroquine, while 3,132 received standard treatment.
The percentage of people who died after 4 weeks was 25.7% for those receiving the drug and 23.5% for those receiving standard treatment.

These data suggest that there is no meaningful benefit to taking hydroxychloroquine for those with active COVID-19 disease.

Nor does hydroxychloroquine appear to protect healthy people from disease onset after exposure to the virus.

A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of 821 participants suggests that the medication does not protect those at high risk of COVID-19 infection.

The NIH were running a clinical trial to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of using hydroxychloroquine to treat adults hospitalized with COVID-19. However, the NIH halted the trial after the initial data suggested that the drug was no more effective than a placebo.
What is the consensus?

Overall, the findings from the above studies suggest that there is limited evidence for the use of hydroxychloroquine for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

A meta-analysis of 23 studies investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 supports this view.

The meta-analysis concludes that the evidence on the benefits and harms of the drug is both weak and conflicting.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-hydroxychloroquine-treat-covid-19

www.bing.com/search?q=Hydroxychloroquine+and+covid&form=CHRDEF&sp=-1&pq=hydroxychloroquine+and+covid&sc=0-28&qs=n&sk=&cvid=4038AD63E90540DD839243E820D9E94E

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @7.1.5    3 years ago

And yet it was used all over the world and the death rate from the disease was lowered where it was used than here where it was opposed and suppressed by some with a religious like zealotry.  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7.1.7  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.6    3 years ago

True, Now it seems the benefits in large scale do outweigh the dangers, to most people. Initial studies seemed to show differently though. 

That alone sure still doesn't negate the fact that trump promoting, "Covid will just disappear" was false, neglectful, irresponsible statements from the leader of over 300 million people. 

Look how many people believe whatever trump says. IF President trump would have told Americans the truth from day one we may not have over half a million of us now dead. 

Cause as we all know the fact is covid did not "Just disappear" as our leader told us all it would not long before half a million died from it. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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8  Thomas    3 years ago

Translation of article: I can't speak, so I am going to talk about it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thomas @8    3 years ago

It is sad how closed minded the American progressive left have become.  They are so uncertain of the legitimacy of their beliefs and ideas that out of weakness they impose censorship and cancel culture upon all of us who dare to disagree with them.  To them the truth is enemy #1.  They view their political opposition as evil and view belief in God and the Bible literally as even a bigger threat to their dark world view.  A great article! 

 
 

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