CONGRESSWOMAN MARIA ELVIRA SALAZAR INTRODUCES DIGNITY PLAN

Rep Maria Salazar is a rising star in the Republican Party. Should she ever decide to make a run for President, she would be my first choice.

Her immigration plan is well named and should it ever be enacted it would be a game changer.


Trump and his supporters are off topic.

I am off topic.

Rep Maria Salazar is a rising star in the Republican Party

Then to most on the left, that means she is now a target of hate, insults and probably threats either now or especially in the future if she pursues further political positions.

I'm sure that will be their impulsive reaction, but doing that to a Hispanic Woman has it's consequences. That is what I like about her most!

At a press conference at the U.S. Capitol, Salazar laid out the major principles that serve as the foundation of her proposal, including: Border Security, Asylum Reform, Protection for Dreamers, and Practical Solutions for the Undocumented and Guest Workers. She emphasized the themes of Dignity and Redemption as a compassionate and reasonable approach to address this complex problem that has lingered for decades.

Where's the beef?  It's just another presser?

Republicans have almost always led the way on immigration reform.  And they almost always stop themselves, except for Regan and Bush.

They came remarkably close in 2013 when the R's held the House & the D's held the Senate, the Senate Bill passed 68-32 with 14 Republicans.  Then the House R's lost faith & Boehner refused to address the Senate Bill.

But in early 2013, Boehner was speaking often with Obama about immigration and giving every indication of being very serious about doing whatever it took to pass legislation. So the White House focused its efforts on shaping the Senate bill, while limiting its House considerations mainly to building the outside coalition — supporters from law enforcement, the evangelical community, small businesses and corporations — that would provide cover for an eventual vote.

The administration’s focus on the Senate did not dissuade the House group from forging ahead. The lawmakers began holding marathon meetings again, switching locations among House offices to throw the press off the scent, with members taking turns picking up the dinner-catering tabs. The four Republicans were Johnson, Diaz-Balart, Labrador and Representative John Carter, a former judge from central Texas. The Democrats were Becerra, Gutiérrez, Yarmuth and Representative Zoe Lofgren of San Jose, Calif.

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It was the Republicans, however, who finally broke first. On June 5, 2013, Labrador announced he was leaving the group, saying the health care issue had become insurmountable and that he would focus on crafting Republican-only legislation instead. It was a grievous blow to the group, coming after it had gone to great lengths — falling behind the Senate in drafting its bill — to address Labrador’s complaints on multiple fronts. Democrats I spoke to viewed his protestations as fundamentally cynical, an excuse to kill a bill he was ambivalent about by placing it in conflict with the other party’s most treasured recent legislative accomplishment. “If people want to get to an outcome, they can get to an outcome,” Muñoz said, and sighed. “Look, there’s a reason why no bill ever got introduced. Had a bill been introduced, the pressure to bring it through the process would have been very, very high, which was why they never introduced it.”

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Good read about the inner workings of the madness that is Congress.

Good luck & god's speed to Maria Salazar.  She will need it.

Where's the beef? 

I was hoping someone would ask.  Specifics:

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  And they almost always stop themselves, except for Regan and Bush.

Ronal Reagan offered ONE TIME ONLY amnesty in return for promises of border security. I guess you could say he and we got cheated. Next time border security has to come first. Maria Salazar is much more generous than I. I don't believe in any more amnesty. If someone enters illegally, they should never gain citizenship.

Many (if not all ) would probably be happy as permanent residents, paying all taxes with no voting rights.

What specifics, all I see is a list of sound bites that would be unacceptable coming from a Democrat.

Do you want border security?  Treat it like most nations borders with patrols authorized to shoot anyone climbing the existingfences.  It should only take a week or two to stop the flow.

Easy.

Do you want border security?

Oh yes, like we had only a few months ago  with the Public Health Exclusion Order, the Remain in Mexico Policy and the Safe Third Party Agreement!  Everything Joe the puppet got rid of!

Oh yes, like we had only a few months ago 

Where did it go? I haven't seen anyone ripping down fencing or firing border patrol agents. The only change Biden made was to bring in a couple of thousand unaccompanied minors that have been sitting in Mexico for months. Please tell me where the security changed?

I just gave it to you. Those were 3 big programs that worked.

Per the news there are still Remain in Mexico camps.  Safe third Party was an agreement between the US  & Canada that is still in effect as far as their website goes.

PHEO ?  for Mexico?  Don't see it.

Joe the puppet, lol.  smh.

I just gave it to you.

See SP's reply at 2.1.9. So, your big three are false, the border is not wide open and any real fixes still remain for Congress to do something beyond soundbites. So far I still see only a combination of issues were Biden let in a few thousand kids from Mexico combined with the Trump shuttering of facilities to process them. Not good, but certainly not the end of the world as hyper-partisan conservatives are making it out to be. 

How far do you live from Brownsville?  It may be worth while to take a ride down and talk to your fellow Texans.

Here are some hard fought for pics:


From Donna Texas

Wow.

The results of Lack of Planning once again.

WOW is right !

Sad describes it pretty well too. 

When will our politicians learn ? 

PLAN before changing immigration and border security policies. 

WTF is so hard to understand there ? 

Duuu

sickening really, over and over ... .. . 

My bad EG,  Trump also set up similar Safe 3rd Party agreements with Guatemala, Honduras & El Salvador but they were not treaties approved by Congress which is why Congress was unhappy with them.

In immigration news, the Biden administration has suspended so-called safe third country agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras. The widely condemned Trump-era policies allowed the government to expel asylum seekers from the U.S.-Mexico border to first seek asylum in one of the Central American nations. democracynow

The agreements effectively block migrants from accessing the U.S. asylum system, forcing them to seek protection in countries that struggle with high rates of violence and poverty, lack institutions and infrastructure to assist large numbers of refugees, and grapple with severe sociopolitical, economic, and environmental issues. Moreover, many Honduran, El Salvadoran and Guatemalan nationals are fleeing these conditions in their own countries, also hoping to seek asylum in the U.S.

It’s telling that the Trump administration has not called these “safe third country” agreements–a shameful recognition that these countries do not meet the implicit requirements of a safe third country. For example, most of the asylum seekers being sent to Guatemala- including families with children are opting to go back to their countries, often risking their lives but acknowledging that seeking asylum in Guatemala is not safe. 

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This wasn't exactly a plan of Biden's.

A Federal Judge appointed by Bush made the decision in November 2020 to end the policy of turning away unaccompanied children due to a law suit by the ACLU

A federal judge on Wednesday ordered the Trump administration to halt its practice of “expelling” underage migrants who enter the United States without a parent, a ruling that also cast doubt on the broader legality of the emergency public health measures the U.S. government has used since March to impose strict border controls.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan’s preliminary injunction requires the Trump administration to once more process the humanitarian claims of minors who cross the U.S. border alone, rather than returning them to Mexico or flying them back to their home countries without due process.

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a plan of Biden's

WOW ... 

also in your linked artial:

"Sullivan’s decision could have wider implications for the incoming Biden administration"

I hadn't heard of this and at first wondered if it was a "landmine" that trump left. I looked up the judge and nope, probably not a landmine left by trump somehow. But, it was horrible timing for the new administration .. BUT, back to the point... 

............................................

Unfortunately Split, When a president takes power it is their responsibility to do all they can to do what they do to the best they can. 

IMO: That includes taking care in WTF they do. Even with the new information you just turned me on to, I still think president Biden had a responsibility to both know that information about unaccompanied minors and take it into consideration in his Planning. 

I would imagine President Biden was fully aware of the injunction and if not he should have been for sure. 

I voted for president Biden and wish him the best, But come on man (Biden) do some detailed Planning and get shit right for a change.  

When these "mistakes" are made it cost everyone.

trump didn't plan well and now it appears neither has Biden.

Sad !

When will they learn to Plan WTF they are doing before they try doing it. 

Measure twice and cut once..  Duuuu

My bad EG,  Trump also set up similar Safe 3rd Party agreements with Guatemala, Honduras & El Salvador but they were not treaties approved by Congress which is why Congress was unhappy with them.

Didn't Biden just dispatch people to negotiate their own agreements? Since Congress can't get anything much done, I don't blame Trump, or Biden, for trying to get things done this way. I'm only pointing out that this issue is being argued along partisan lines and not pragmatic ones. Congress is too busy running for the next election to solve any issue as big as immigration.

I still think president Biden had a responsibility to both know that information about unaccompanied minors and take it into consideration in his Planning. 

They had the information and they still had no plan. Now they are saying they lost too much time during the crossover period. That's a bullshit excuse for not having a plan.

Happy happy happy. ... But, Too bad she didn't propose this when the republicans had the power to do anything. 

A tat late, nice gesture though. 

I think enough members of Congress would be glad to fix the immigration problem. However, that desire is superseded by their unwillingness to allow the other party to take credit for anything.

Border Security, Asylum Reform, Protection for Dreamers, and Practical Solutions for the Undocumented and Guest Workers.

Sounds a lot like the Democratic platform. 

Sounds a lot like the Democratic platform. 

Actually, since Obama was already using ICE to track down, punish and deport criminal illegals, it's pretty much what he proposed in 2013. Nothing happened because Republicans saw no benefit to themselves in working on immigration. If a Republican proposing the same thing is the way to get this done, I'm all for it. Kind of puerile, but that seems to be a Republican hallmark.

Both sides are really closer on this than most people think.

You ( as in we ) need to find 60 people who can put country before party

without worry about which party has the WH.

We actually had that once in 2013 where a bipartisan Senate voted 68-32 to pass such a Bill. ( S-744 )

John Boehner invoked the Hastert Rule that Mitch loves so much and never brought the Bill to the House floor.

Biden policy of deliberately creating a crisis bringing Covid carriers among us

Comment 5.2.2 is a deliberate attempt to foster a lie for propaganda purposes.

This Biden policy of deliberately creating a crisis bringing COVID carriers to mix among us during a pandemic might bring people together to end it.

Nope,

In reality, the Biden administration has maintained the same procedures for COVID-19 testing in detention facilities that were in effect during the previous administration.

Nothing in the Biden administration’s policy indicates a break from the standing policy on COVID-19 testing,   Josiah Heyman , director of the Center for Interamerican and Border Studies at the University of Texas at El Paso, told us in a phone interview.

Both U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol confirmed to us that no such policies had changed.

All illegal immigrants are criminals. Obama only deported those that broke other US laws such as drug trafficking and violent crimes.

Obama as "Deporter in Chief" was an administration and media lie.

latimes

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

The shift in who gets tallied helped the administration look tough in its early years but now may be backfiring politically. Immigration advocates plan protests across the country this week around what they say will be the 2 millionth deportation under Obama — a mark expected to be hit in the next few days. And Democratic strategists fret about a decline in Latino voter turnout for this fall’s election.

Until recent years, mostpeople caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics.

Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.

In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom have just recently crossed over. In 2013, almost two-thirds of deportations were in that category.

At the same time, the administration largely ended immigration roundups at workplaces and shifted investigators into targeting business owners who illegally hired foreign workers.

“If you are a run-of-the-mill immigrant here illegally, your odds of getting deported are close to zero — it’s just highly unlikely to happen,” John Sandweg, until recently the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an interview.

Even when immigration officials want to deport someone who already has settled in the country, doing so is “virtually impossible” because of a lengthy backlog in the immigration courts, Sandweg said. Once people who have no prior removals or convictions are placed in deportation proceedings, actually removing them from the country can take six years or more in some jurisdictions, Sandweg said.

Deportations of people apprehended in the interior of the U.S., which the immigration agency defines as more than 100 miles from the border, dropped from 237,941 in Obama’s first year to 133,551 in 2013, according to immigration data. Four out of five of those deportees came to the attention of immigration authorities after criminal convictions.

Many of those convictions are related to crossing the border — the other big consequence of the change in the way border removals are handled.

A growing number of people caught trying to cross the border now have a formal deportation order on their records. Entering the country without legal authorization is not a crime. But once a person has been deported, he can be prosecuted if he reenters the country.

The policy of deporting border crossers and then prosecuting people who reenter has increased the number of immigrants charged in federal court. In 1992, immigration offenses accounted for 5% of federal convictions. In the subsequent two decades, the share of immigration cases on the federal docket increased sixfold, according to a study by the Pew Research Center .

In 2012, immigration offenses made up 30% of federal convictions, second only to drug cases, which made up one-third.

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Once you were in the country you were golden under Obama; so long as you didn't commit any violent crimes.

Obama as "Deporter in Chief" was an administration and media lie.

Nope. 3/4/2014---

President Barack Obama has lost the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization.

The National Council of La Raza is set to declare Obama “the deporter-in-chief” and demand that he take unilateral action to stop deportations.

NCLR, the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization, had been the last significant progressive grass-roots immigration-reform organization publicly defending the White House immigration stance. NCLR President Janet Murguía will on Tuesday night demand Obama put a halt to his administration’s deportations.

Obama built the most powerful deportation engine this country has ever seen. He had a two pronged strategy - 1) deport all recent arrivals (i.e. seal the border), and 2) track down illegals committing crimes and punish/deport them (i.e. protect Americans). Close to 3 million were deported during his presidency, mostly caught entering illegally, processed and deported. The illegal population declined by about 10% during the Obama presidency. He simply wasn't cruel like Trump, and didn't beat is chest like an ape about it like Trump.

It is.

Where is border security anywhere in the Democratic platform?

npr

One of the most contentious immigration questions in the Democratic primary is whether candidates want to decriminalize illegal border crossings. Some have talked about repealing Section 1325 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which makes it a misdemeanor to cross illegally. Several Democratic candidates want it to be a civil offense, not criminal. The Trump administration used this statute to justify its family separation policy, which is how it became a hot topic in the campaign.

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The Democratic convention, by contrast, showcased several unauthorized immigrants who have become prominent activists, including some who have benefited from the Obama administration’s deportation-relief policies. the Democratic platform focuses on increased rights and protections for the unauthorized population and recent flows of Central Americans, as well as immigrant integration. In many ways, the sharply divergent platforms offer mounting evidence—even in comparison to earlier platforms—of how the two parties live in parallel universes on the subject of immigration. Unlike the 2008 and 2012 platforms, this year’s Republican blueprint does not endorse increases in any legal immigration categories, and the Democratic platform is silent on any new or renewed enforcement measures. The only commonality between the two platforms is the prioritization of citizenship for immigrants serving in the armed forces.

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Democrats will rescind President Trump’s fabricated “National Emergency,” which siphons
funding away from our men and women in uniform to construct an unnecessary, wasteful, and
ineffective wall on the southern border.
We will immediately terminate the Trump Administration’s discriminatory travel and
immigration bans that disproportionately impact Muslim, Arab, and African people, and invite
those whose visas have been denied under these xenophobic and un-American policies to
re-apply to come to the United States. We will support legislation to ensure that no president can
enact discriminatory bans ever again. We will reinstate, expand, and streamline protections for Dreamers and the parents of American
citizen children to keep families together in the communities they have long called home.
Democrats believe the United States should be a beacon of hope for those who are suffering
violence and injustice, which is why we will protect and expand the existing asylum system and
other humanitarian protections. We will reverse Trump Administration policies that prevent
victims of gang and domestic violence, as well as LGBTQ+ people who are unsafe in their home
countries, from being eligible to apply for asylum. Democrats will end Trump Administration
policies that deny protected entry to asylum seekers, put them at great risk, and destabilize our
neighbors and the broader region. And we will end prosecution of asylum seekers at the border
and policies that force them to apply from “safe third countries,” which are far from safe.
Democrats believe that our fight to end systemic and structural racism in our country extends to
our immigration system, including the policies at our borders and ports of entry, detention
centers, and within immigration law enforcement agencies and their policies and operations. And
Democrats will immediately halt enforcement of and rescind the Trump Administration’s
un-American immigrant wealth test.
Even as we work to reverse the enormous damage caused by the Trump Administration, we are
determined to build a 21st century immigration system that embodies our values, expands
economic opportunity for all Americans, and enhances our global competitiveness.
Democrats believe it is long past time to provide a roadmap to citizenship for the millions of
undocumented workers, caregivers, students, and children who are an essential part of our
economy and of the fabric of our nation. We will fast-track this process for those workers who
have been essential to the pandemic response and recovery efforts, including health care
workers, farmworkers, and others. We will also eliminate unfair barriers to naturalization, reduce
application backlogs, and make our immigration processes faster, more efficient, and less costly.
These reforms will strengthen our communities, our families, our economy, and our country.
Democrats oppose President Trump’s illegal, chaotic, and reckless changes to the legal
immigration system, including decisions to slash family-based immigration as well as H-1B and
other visa programs that can help our economy.
Democrats believe family unity should be a guiding principle for our immigration policy. We
will prioritize family reunification for children still separated from their families, and we will
restore family reunification programs ended by the Trump Administration. We support
legislation to treat the spouses and children of green card holders as immediate relatives and end
their unfair separation. We will eliminate family-based green card backlogs and reform the
system to speed up family-based visas. And we will work with Congress to eliminate
immigration barriers, such as the three- and 10-year bars, and remove the 10-year waiting period
for waivers to the permanent bars that keep loved ones apart.
We believe we should expand, not reduce, the annual visa cap for victims of human trafficking,
including victims of sex trafficking, violence against women and children, and other heinous
crimes; ensure that same sex-couples and their children receive equal treatment in the immigration and naturalization systems; reaffirm America’s commitment to family-based
immigration; and preserve the critical role of diversity preferences in our immigration system.
Democrats will ensure that law-abiding individuals with Temporary Protected Status or Deferred
Enforced Departure are not sent back to countries where they cannot live safely, and we will
work to pave a path to citizenship for those who have been in the country for an extended period
of time and built their lives in the United States.
Democrats know that when employers feel free to abuse and bully immigrant workers, all
workers suffer. That’s why we will hold employers accountable, promote workers’ rights, and
prioritize the enforcement of labor and employment laws across the economy, including
discrimination and sexual harassment protections, wage and hour laws, and health and safety
rules. We will prevent employers from taking advantage of immigrant workers by establishing an
affirmative process to request deferred action for workers who report labor violations and by
supporting the Domestic Workers’ Bill of Rights and the Protect Our Workers from Exploitation
and Retaliation (POWER) Act.
We will ensure that enforcement mechanisms are humane and consistent with our values and
international humanitarian obligations. That’s why we will end workplace and community raids.
We will protect sensitive locations like our schools, houses of worship, health care facilities,
benefits offices, and DMVs from immigration enforcement actions, and prohibit raids in which
children and members of vulnerable populations are left behind without their caregivers. We will
prohibit enforcement actions that deter access to justice at courthouses and repress freedom of
speech and assembly, end programs that force state and local law enforcement to also be
responsible for immigration enforcement, and stop targeting men and women who served in
uniform and their families. We will reaffirm enforcement officials’ ability to engage in the
pre-Trump practice of prosecutorial discretion for deserving cases, including when needed to
address humanitarian issues or other injustices. We will also prevent enforcement officials from
retaliating against individuals for their political speech or activity, or because of their efforts to
advocate for individuals’ rights.
We believe detention should be a last resort, not the default. Democrats will prioritize
investments in more effective and cost-efficient community-based alternatives to detention. We
will end for-profit detention centers and ensure that any facility where migrants are being
detained is held to the highest standards of care and guarantees their safety and dignity. We will
ensure all detention centers provide access to competent interpreters who speak migrants' native
languages and dialects. Detention of children should be restricted to the shortest possible time,
with their access to education and proper care ensured. We will prioritize alternatives to
detention for individuals with special vulnerabilities—those who are known to be suffering from
serious physical or mental illness, who have disabilities, who are elderly, pregnant, or nursing,
who demonstrate that they are primary caretakers of children or an infirm person, identify as gay,
lesbian, transgender, gender non-conforming, or intersex, or whose detention is otherwise not in
the public interest.
Democrats will implement robust mechanisms for oversight, accountability, and transparency to
ensure immigration agencies abide by our values, the U.S. Constitution, and international law.
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Democrats believe immigration judges should be able to operate free of inappropriate political
influence, and will support steps to make immigration courts more independent. We will demand
that leaders of our immigration agencies be Senate-confirmed professionals, and that
Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection personnel abide by
our values and professional, evidence-based standards and are held accountable for any
inappropriate, unlawful, or inhumane treatment.
A 21st century immigration system that honors our values is an essential prerequisite not just to
recovering from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, but to strengthening our
democracy and guaranteeing America’s long-term economic competitiveness. That’s why
Democrats believe in improving and increasing opportunities for legal, permanent immigration.
Our family, humanitarian, and diversity pathways have contributed immeasurably to the
vibrancy and productivity of American society and should continue to be the centerpiece of our
immigration system. We also support awarding visas for permanent, employment-based
immigration in a way that is responsive to labor market needs. We want to attract and keep talent
in this country, which is why Democrats will end the Trump Administration’s freeze on green
cards for new immigrants and instead pursue a meaningful reform agenda.
Democrats support policies and programs to make it easier for qualified immigrants and their
families to become full and equal citizens, including increasing funding for culturally appropriate
immigrant inclusion and citizenship services, legal support, English classes and bilingual
education, workforce development, and adult education.
Finally, Democrats will address the root causes of migration—violence and insecurity, poverty,
pervasive corruption, lack of educational and economic opportunity, and the impacts of climate
change. Disciplined American leadership and well-designed assistance programs can help
prevent and mitigate the effects of migration crises around the world, from Southeast Asia to
Sub-Saharan Africa to Central America. We will support a comprehensive strategy to strengthen
security and prosperity in partnership with the people of Central America and the Caribbean and
with the support of the international community. And we will renew American diplomacy as our
tool of first resort, rebuild our partnerships and alliances, and once again lead the global
humanitarian response.

It doesn't matter the year, and doesn't matter the candidate. The Democrats could care less about border security. Their plan is to decriminalize illegal border crossing. 

I even posted the link to this year's Democratic platform. Not one damn mention of security except to end Trump's border wall.

It doesn't matter the year, and doesn't matter the candidate. The Democrats could care less about border security.

Assuming you meant "couldn't care less", then again, nope.

Reagan granted amnesty to about 2.7M illegals at a time when the estimated number of them was less than 4M. He also militarized the borders without providing a reasonable guest worker program which resulted in an avalanche of illegals because they could no longer come here to work and go home. They started moving their families here. So, as usual, a Democrat has to deal with this shit---

In Bill Clinton’s 1995 State of the Union address to Congress, the 42nd president laid out a tough stance towards illegal aliens, claiming that they took jobs from legal residents and cost taxpayers money because of the public services they used. “We are a nation of immigrants,” Clinton said. “But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.” In 1996, Clinton signed two Republican-sponsored bills that had a significant effect on immigration policy. Together, the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 significantly increased the potential penalties faced by immigrants both with and without formal immigration status. The laws expanded the number of crimes for which immigrants (including green-card holders) could be deported, and made the deportation eligibility retroactive. The laws also allowed undocumented immigrants apprehended within 100 miles of the U.S. border to be deported without arguing their cases before an immigration judge.

And, as I've said previously, Obama built the most powerful deportation engine ever, and earned the title from Hispanics of "Deporter in Chief". The number of illegals decreased during his presidency.

Trump violated our laws with cruel and ultimately intolerable treatment which destroyed our reputation without effectively dealing with the problem. Trump was not someone to think about anything. He cut off aid to countries he said were 'sending' their worst people to us. This, of course, is the opposite of what you should do. You need to help those countries so their people stop leaving. He also denigrated those countries leaders, furthering the difficulty of correcting the problem(s) causing people to come here. He kept harping on a wall when the majority of people coming were not trying to sneak in, they were applying for asylum. In his first 100 days Trump found time to golf 19 times.

Biden has yet to really do much about immigration, which seems reasonable given the magnitude of the COVID-19 disaster he inherited. No golfing.

agan granted amnesty to about 2.7M illegals at a

Reagan didn't "grant" amnesty. Congress passed a law, he signed it. 

Obama and Biden granted amnesty when they refused to enforce immigration laws. 

, Obama built the most powerful deportation engine ever, a

People still fall for that?  All Obama did was change what counted as a deportation. Turn away an illegal at the border, suddenly its a "deportation."  The reality is once you got past the border, the number of actual deportations from the interior of the US fell 40% after 5 years of Obama.  

latimes

B iden has yet to really do much about immigration

He suspended the Asylum Cooperative Agreements negotiated with other countries to keep immigrants from reaching our border and has enticed immigrates with promises of amnesty. He's opened the borders to the point where captured illegals are released into the country without  so much as a court date to follow up. 

No golfing.

Ha! You write that like it's  an option for him.  He can't even walk up stairs without tripping three times. Four hours of physical activity is well beyond his capabilities. 

agan granted amnesty to about 2.7M illegals at a

Reagan didn't "grant" amnesty. Congress passed a law, he signed it. 

The bill barely passed the house -- I think by 5 votes, he could have easily vetoed it. He wanted it to happen.

Obama built the most powerful deportation engine ever, a People still fall for that?  

Simply true. The Hispanics didn't label him the "Deporter in Chief" as a term of endearment.

He [Biden] suspended the Asylum Cooperative Agreements...

Because they're illegal under US law -- not that that law breaking meant anything to Trump.

No golfing. Ha! You write that like it's  an option for him. 

Biden has about a 10 handicap. Of course, that's no where near as good as Trump's claimed handicap of 2.8! -- this is the point where you 'Ha!' actually belongs.

- I think by 5 votes, he could have easily vetoed it. He wanted it to happen.

Again, you don't seem to grasp that Congress passed the law.  Reagan didn't "grant" anything.  Obama unilaterally granted amnesty.  See the difference?

Simply true. 

Did you manage to ignore the link? My argument is based on reality, not nicknames. 

Because they're illegal under US law

Really? Which  Court ruling found that?  First you claimed he did nothing. Now you justify his destruction of international agrements becuase they are supposedly illegal, but what Court found that? IF they were illegal, a court would have overturned them before Biden was sworn it. 

Biden has about a 10 handicap. 

I'm not talking about the number of extra tries he needs to negotiate a staircase.  If Biden was ever a 10 handicap in golf, he's not anymore.  Why is admitting his obvious issues so hard for some? 

Again, you don't seem to grasp that Congress passed the law.  Reagan didn't "grant" anything.

The first sentence is irrelevant, the second is false. It takes a 2/3s majority in both houses to override a presidential veto. I told you this barely passed. If Reagan did not want this to happen, he could have vetoed it. I remember that this legislation was called the "Reagan Amnesty". Obama didn't grant amnesty, he set in motion a path to citizenship for some people.

Did you manage to ignore the link?

I did. I am not going to waste my time reading a article you think justifies your position. Quote a few sentences that you feel justify your position and we can discuss them. Before you do that, realize that I know that during most of the the GWB administration illegal immigration was a play until you win game. Illegals would cross, get caught, get tossed back, and then try again. Immigration realized at the very end of GWB's term that this was allowing lots of illegals into the country and changed the procedure to process those caught. This allowed them to be prosecuted if they tried again. So, GWB may have tossed a lot of people back into Mexico, but many of them were the same people, and a lot of illegals made it in because they had unlimited attempts.

Really? Which  Court ruling found that?

We have laws which regulate the treatment of asylum seekers. If there is the possibility of them being harmed if returned, we cannot return them. This means that an asylum seeker with valid documentation must be heard. Trump, as with so many things, simply did whatever he wanted. Either you respect our laws or you do not. The Trump administration most assuredly did not.

Why is admitting his obvious issues so hard for some?

Likely because it's irrelevant. I watched Trump walk down a slightly sloping ramp like a 95 year old. He has slurred speech and used the wrong words on many occasions. This stuff holds no meaning for me at all. If it helps you in some way to think of Biden as feeble, fine -- I hope there are Republican legislators that share that stupidity.

I am not going to waste my time reading a article you think justifies your position.

I was going to make intelligent rational responses to your post, but then this came to mind, and I realized it would be a complete waste of my time as your mind is already made up regardless of what facts are presented.

I was going to make intelligent rational responses to your post,...

Your cop-out. Did you read the sentence following the one you quoted?

First, suppose you're in an actual debate and your opponent makes a point. Do you think that responding with a link would be received favorably? Include the link if you want, but make your point.

Second, I explained why I didn't think his comment was reasonable. Catch & release made illegal immigration a play until you win game; it resulted in a lot of illegal immigration -- catch & release could hardly be labelled 'deportation'. If police stopped people for speeding, winked at them and let them go, would you consider that an effective penalty, or even a penalty at all? Documenting, finger printing, and deporting trespassers so they can be prosecuted if caught again seems to me to be a real deportation program.

Salazar I wish you good luck.  This current GOP is against every point in your proposal.  Uh, you are aware of that, right?

Don't sell the Democrats short; they will be against it because she is a Republican.

It also has security in it. Democrats won't stand for that.

That make little sense.  You would be defending what, if I might ask?