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Mass Immigration Turned California Blue, And Your State Might Be Next

  
Via:  Vic Eldred  •  5 years ago  •  104 comments

By:   Spencer Lindquist (The Federalist)

Mass Immigration Turned California Blue, And Your State Might Be Next
The left weaponized mass immigration to turn California blue. The Democratic Party is working to subject the rest of the country to the same fate.

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It can be all too easy to forget that California, now a Democrat-mismanaged chronic cesspool, used to be a conservative stronghold. The state gave America Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan and voted for the GOP in nine out of ten presidential elections between 1952 and 1988.

Clearly, a lot has changed. California hasn't supported a single Republican presidential candidate in any of the eight elections since 1988. What's more, the margin of support for Republican candidates has consistently shrunk, with Bill Clinton receiving 46 percent of the vote in 1992 (an election with three serious candidates) and 51 percent in 1996.

In 2020, Joe Biden garnered more than 63 percent of the California vote, the Democrats' best year in the state since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected in a national landslide. Since 2007, Republican Party affiliation has plummeted from 33.8 percent to an abysmal 24 percent, now tying with no party preference.

What happened? How did the state that gave us Nixon and Reagan become a Democratic stronghold in the span of a few short election cycles? Was the Democratic Party's messaging just that effective? Doubtful.

While it'd be reductionist to attribute California's leftward trend to a single variable, there's one that can not only be blamed for much of the shift, but is also integral to understanding the left's strategy to sink Republican majorities across America.

Immigration Weaponized To Turn California Blue


The answer lies in immigration. California has been, for many years, a top destination for immigrants, both legal and illegal. Today, California has more immigrants than any other state, largely in part due to the addition of a whopping and electorally significant 2.4 million immigrants during the 1990s. As California was flooded with immigrants, the state shifted left, with newly imported populations heavily favoring the Democratic Party.

Ample research indicates that immigrants from Latin America, who historically have made up the largest share of California's immigrant population, vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, with a more recent study from Pew finding that 4 percent of illegal immigrants of Hispanic descent support the GOP and 31 percent support the Democratic Party, while legal permanent residents and foreign-born U.S. citizens support Democrats 49 to 8 percent and 54 to 11 percent, respectively.

After Reagan signed the 1986 amnesty, which a representative from the Federation for American Immigration Reform cited in a statement to The Federalist as "the reason why we have had illegal immigration ever since," Californians took action to curtail immigration and passed Proposition 187, a bill that would've prevented illegal immigrants from receiving government benefits by a landslide margin of 59 percent to 41 percent.

The victory was short-lived, however, as a permanent injunction from federal judge Marianna Pfaelzer killed the widely supported measure. Now, estimates say that 6 percent of California's population is currently there illegally, and the state was the first to openly violate federal law to harbor illegal immigrants.

California's rapid shift isn't a story of a sudden ideological change, but of a drastic population shift that Democrats and weak Republicans intend to foist on the rest of America through open border policies and amnesty for unvetted illegal immigrants.

As California Goes, So Goes The Nation


Now, the same playbook is being used as a blueprint for the entire country, with conservative predominance in key states being threatened by similar population changes. Texas, long viewed as the epitome of a red state, is now grappling with fears that demographic shifts could threaten the GOP's control over the second most populous state in the union.

Such fears are well founded, with Sen. Ted Cruz only beating out Beto O'Rourke by 2.6 percent in the 2018 Senate election in an uncharacteristically close race. While many have expressed concern over the possibility that those who have moved to Texas from failed Democrat states might turn it blue, studies have found that such voters tend to be overwhelmingly supportive of the GOP.

Instead, a cross-reference of data from the Statistical Atlas (which displays counties with a higher foreign-born population in the lighter color) and election results show that O'Rourke secured landslide victories in counties that had the largest shares of immigrant voters.

With an estimated 1.7 million illegal immigrants, amnesty could prove to be fatal for the GOP in Texas, especially in conjunction with persistent legal immigration in a U.S. system based on chain migration instead of skill-based immigration criteria.

Texas is not the only state that is threatened by immigration, however, with Democrats winning almost 90 percent of congressional districts across the country with large foreign-born populations. Several other red (or formerly red) states have been or are being turned blue at least in significant part to immigration, including Georgia, Virginia, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.

When Democrats can't convince current voters, they import new ones, masking their lust for power in the humanitarian cloaks of "multiculturalism" and "diversity," while drowning any dissent with a flurry of insults or a disingenuous recitation of Emma Lazarus's "The New Colossus." The left employs all this fanfare about diversity while enforcing a crushing conformity in all other facets of society, with cancel culture's hall monitors perpetually searching for opportunities to stifle intellectual diversity.

While the severity of this situation differs between states, the danger is uniform and undeniable. Mass immigration, be it legal or illegal, has been weaponized by Democrats and threatens the GOP's electoral viability on a national scale.

Dangerous Conspiracy Theory or Point of Pride?


Yet another indication that this strategy is intentional is the apoplectic response when it is exposed to the public.

When Tucker Carlson said, "In order to win and maintain power, Democrats plan to change the population of the country," he met outrage from the Anti-Defamation League, which invoked the left's favorite buzzword, accusing Tucker of embracing "a white supremacist trope" and called for his firing, with their CEO doubling down in a tweet. Meanwhile, researcher Nikki McCann Ramirez of Media Matters claimed Carlson was promoting a "conspiracy theory."

While those on the left feebly brand any discussion of statistically verifiable and electorally significant population changes as racist and conspiratorial, at other times they openly boast about the success of this strategy, with a leftist activist remarking, "When you think about California, what it was like 30 or 40 years ago, that's Georgia," and failed gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams contending that "Georgia's demography is an example of what's happening maybe more slowly everywhere else in the Sun Belt" and saying that changing "demography is opportunity."

Although Carlson discussed these shifts in explicitly nonracial terms, prominent leftwing voices have used this issue to peddle the nastiest form of identity politics, with The New York Times even running an article literally titled "We Can Replace Them" in which columnist Michelle Goldberg derisively blames America's division on "an embittered white conservative minority."

Attempts to blacklist these conversations are even more obviously duplicitous when leftists politicians, activists, and journalists brag about the strategy's success, simultaneously asserting that such population shifts are a driving force for their electoral success and calling conservatives who recognize that very same fact racist conspiracy theorists.

The same ploy that turned the Golden State blue is being foisted on the entirety of America, and it threatens to yield the same consequences. To fend off nationwide Californication, Republican officials must oppose mass immigration and boldly expose the left's plan to reshape America's population for political gain. Their jobs, and more importantly, any hope of pursuing conservative policies and values on a national scale, may very well depend on it.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

Give them a driver's license and a voter registration form. On the form will be a box to be checked asking if they are citizens. If they check the box they get the right to vote with nobody checking to see if they are citizens. That's how it's done!

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

You posted that LIE elsewhere in a prior seed and I challenged you to prove it, you failed to do so. I have no doubt you will fail to do so now since it is a LIE. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago
How did the state that gave us Nixon and Reagan become a Democratic stronghold

I think you just answered your own question.

If they check the box they get the right to vote with nobody checking to see if they are citizens.

show your proof of this ongoing xenophobic GOP lie.

I guess everything started going downhill when we let all those greasy olive oil, tomato, pasta, and sausage eaters in from the old country 100 years ago, huh? /s

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.1  JBB  replied to  devangelical @1.2    5 years ago

Truth be told all noncitizens have to do to vote is to, "Commit a major crime which is both a state and a federal felony and which will be caught and might result in your being deported".

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

Many states make it easy for illegals to obtain driver's licenses.

Once they have the DL, the rest is easy.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.3.1  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3    5 years ago

Easy if you are willing to commit a major state and federal crime and are willing to go to prison for it. That is why it is not a problem, in reality...

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2  SteevieGee    5 years ago

California turned blue when we outlawed gerrymandering.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @2    5 years ago

California turned blue when democrats violated the constitution and found a way to let non-citizens vote.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.1  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago
California turned blue when democrats violated the constitution and found a way to let non-citizens vote.

Prove it. It should be a simple task, since you are making the claim.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @2.1.1    5 years ago
Prove it

"California officials still can’t say whether non-citizens voted in the June 2018 primary because a confusing government questionnaire about eligibility was created in a way that prevents a direct answer on citizenship.

The snag comes from a voter eligibility questionnaire that lumps five separate characteristics, such as age and citizenship status, into one prompt that people see at the Department of Motor Vehicles when they try to get or renew a driver’s license.

Investigators can see that people marked themselves as ineligible to vote or declined to answer eligibility questions, but they can’t tell why.

“We can’t assume why they declined to answer eligibility questions or why they said they were not eligible,” the Secretary of State’s Office wrote in an internal memo on Oct. 8, 2018.

That email and other documents The Sacramento Bee obtained through the Public Records Act shed light on why the Secretary of State has been unable to say clearly whether non-citizens voted last year.  The Bee filed a legal complaint  for the records when the Secretary of State initially withheld most of them."




Now I want some recognition of this FACT!

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.3  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    5 years ago

That doesn't prove or disprove anything. FACT! 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    5 years ago
California officials still can’t say whether non-citizens voted in the June 2018 primary

So by your own quoted words, in your own comment, you cannot prove anything about illegals voting.

Now I want some recognition of this FACT!

The FACT that there is no evidence they were able to vote?  That fact???

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago

Another lie Vic. You have NO evidence to support that lie because there is NONE. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Dulay @2.1.5    5 years ago

60+ lost court decisions against that baseless republican bullshit later, and they still can't find a lawyer willing to lie to a judge for them.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    5 years ago
Now I want some recognition of this FACT!

Since your 'FACT!' doesn't support your claim that California went blue since 1988 because of immigrants voting, your 'FACT' if irrelevant...

Oh and BTFW, your 'FACT!' is that as of Jan. 2019, they didn't yet have the answers.

WOW, revelatory! 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago

Banana Oil.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    5 years ago

I recognize that an opinion piece from January of 2019 is not FACT!

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.9    5 years ago

funny how most of the documented voter fraud that occurred in the last election was perpetrated by republicans.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.2  evilone  replied to  SteevieGee @2    5 years ago

The whole premise of the seed is a laughable lie. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @2.2    5 years ago

Apparently it is true!

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2.2.2  SteevieGee  replied to  evilone @2.2    5 years ago

It is a laughable lie.  CA has been blue since we took the power of redistricting away from our legislature.

The Voters FIRST Act gave this power to California citizens ensuring that new and fair political boundaries are drawn without special interests, politics and political influence.

As was done ten years ago, a new independent redistricting commission made up of 14 citizens—five Democrats, five Republicans, and four that are not affiliated with either of those two parties—will be responsible for drawing the new district lines.

The 14-member 2020 Citizens Redistricting Commission is fully formed. As required by law, the first eight members of the 2020 Citizens Redistricting Commission were randomly selected on July 2, 2020 from a list of remaining applicants delivered by the Legislature on June 26, 2020. These first eight members chose the final six members from the applicants that remained in the applicant pool on August 7, 2020.
 
 
 
Hallux
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2.2.4  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    5 years ago
Apparently it is true!

Apparently: (adverb) according to what you have heard or read. Well Vic, we know who you apparently listen too and who you apparently read and neither is apparently a bastion of truth.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  SteevieGee @2    5 years ago

I don’t think you know what Gerrymandering is if you think it’s absence turned California blue.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2.3.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.3    5 years ago

Thanks to the voters first act Republicans can seat 5 members on the redistricting commission preventing Dems from using it to their advantage even though Dems have a super majority in both houses and hold all 5 statewide offices. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  SteevieGee @2.3.1    5 years ago

That has nothing to with California turning blue and isn't responsive to what I wrote. Do you not understand what you claimed? 

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    5 years ago

Non-Citizens cannot vote in statewide or national elections in California so the premise here is crap.

And, spencer Lindquust is a punkass intern at the goddamn Federalist.  He is a child. A messed up angry lying misinformed whitering college kid. A Junior Steven Miller who is terrified of "Foreigners". 

Let me tell you something Kiddo! Immigrants made America Great. Immigration and free trade are why California has a gazillion dollar state budget surplus. 

The gop needs good ideas from good candidates to win. In California the gop has devolved into a minority of the gop's own accord with failed policy and crazy illinformed candidates. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  seeder  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

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I'll let our readers judge.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    5 years ago

The rest of thread 4 was removed for off topic

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  seeder  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

This Just in:

Jul. 1—California Gov. Gavin Newsom will face a recall election on Sept. 14, Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis announced on Thursday.




Look for talk of "pandemic concerns" to be followed by a massive mailing of unsolicited ballots.

You heard it here first!

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    5 years ago
You heard it here first!

Actually, California extended the no excuse mail in ballots through 2021 WAY BACK in February. So you 'prediction' is a couple of months LATE...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Dulay @5.1    5 years ago

Big shock.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    5 years ago

You can get a ham sandwich onto the ballot in California by initiative petition. Newsom will prevail because Californians are happy with their excellent public services and huge state budget surpluses...

The gop is burning bridges with California voters by lying to them and even about them. Grow Up!

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.2  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.1    5 years ago

I said that the only way the gop was going to win in California was to deport citizens. That seems to be the author's opinion. I was just being sarcastic and you just don't get it...

You think you scored a gotcha but you didn't!

I would appreciate it if you trolled elsewhere.

 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    5 years ago

I remember Dick Nixon and Ronald Reagan. They were my Presidents for sixteen years of my life. I did not vote for them, but I respected them. Whatever the were against, Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon were champions of immigration and free trade...

Neither one would endorse such racist xenophobia.

They would both tell you the truth about California which was a life long home to them both. That immigrants made California and America Great.

 
 
 
JBB
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7  JBB    5 years ago

The only way the gop can win is to deport citizens!

If you are terrified of non-pink skin, stay out of Cali...

That goes double for New York, Florida and Texas!

 
 
 
Sunshine
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7.3  Sunshine  replied to  JBB @7    5 years ago
The only way the gop can win is to deport citizens!

Can you support this absurd claim?  Drama filled comments don't help you.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.2  JBB  replied to  Sunshine @7.3    5 years ago

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JBB
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7.3.4  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.3    5 years ago

They are so damn intent on finding a gotcha to gig me on the gist goes over their heads...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.3.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @7.3.4    5 years ago

Reading is fundamental. I have to admit I had to go back and re-read your statement, but the light bulb finally came on and I completely understood what you meant. And supposedly I'm not the sharpest knife in the shed around here....

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.3.6  devangelical  replied to  JBB @7.3.4    5 years ago

they can't even scrape together a down payment to own any libs...

 
 
 
Kavika
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8  Kavika     5 years ago

If Vic actually knew anything about California he would know that the passage of prop 187, which was later ruled as unconstitutional was the turning point for CA moving from red to blue.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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8.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Kavika @8    5 years ago

That's true.  Republican support for Prop 187 and other anti-latino legislation caused latinos to leave the party in droves.  They are largely Catholic and socially conservative but Prop 187 was a horrible attack on their community.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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8.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Kavika @8    5 years ago

Interesting ... so the courts shoot down a law voted in by the citizens of CA preventing illegals from receiving public assistance and public education ... Ta Da the state turns blue .. Geee : ) imagine that!

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Colour Me Free @8.2    5 years ago

Imagine whatever you want Colour.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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8.2.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Kavika @8.2.1    5 years ago

: )

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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9  Paula Bartholomew    5 years ago

These are the requirements for obtaining a CA DL.

  • Proof of your date of birth and legal residence. ...
  • Proof of Social Security number.
  • Proof of residency in California.
  • Certificate of Completion of a DMV-approved drivers ed course.
  • A completed Form DL 44 available at the DMV, signed by a parent or guardian

DL's for undocumented residents have "FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY" which means it can't be used as an ID to vote.

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.1  Hallux  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    5 years ago
"FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY"

That's what's on my CA license. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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9.1.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Hallux @9.1    5 years ago

In your case do not FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS APPLY ... : )

I do not think it is the illegal migration turning states blue, it is the legal migration invading various states... : )

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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9.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Hallux @9.1    5 years ago

Why is it on yours?  

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Colour Me Free @9.1.1    5 years ago

Do you and Jim want me to flog that horse again?

Once upon a not so long time ago Hal had a day or two of legal residency standing left, his idiot half Lux flew down to San Diego from Monterey and crossed by foot into Tijuana (great food) hoping to get his passport re-stamped by the 'kindly' US Embassy staff. This story, which eventually contains legirons, handcuffs, ICE's 1/2 inch thick steel beds, cold coffee, 1/2 a stale cheese slice sandwich and their guards who held 3A.M. bible reading sessions is at minimum 10 pages too long for this site.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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9.1.4  Colour Me Free  replied to  Hallux @9.1.3    5 years ago

HAHA ... no, but your new followers need to know the story of their rock star  : )

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Colour Me Free @9.1.4    5 years ago

I don't have followers, I have friendlies.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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9.1.6  Colour Me Free  replied to  Hallux @9.1.5    5 years ago

Hmmmm interesting way to get vote ups .. so that must make me friendly fire  ...?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @9.1.3    5 years ago

Write an article of your adventure! And don't forget to talk about the food

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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9.1.8  Colour Me Free  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.7    5 years ago

Ooo hey .. that is a great idea, I think it would be a fun conversation

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Colour Me Free @9.1.6    5 years ago

You're derailing Vic's seed, I'll leave it to him to decide.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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9.1.10  Colour Me Free  replied to  Hallux @9.1.9    5 years ago

My one claim to fame - derailing ... but hey you have only humped Vic's leg once in this article .. I may get a medal  ... : )

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.1.12  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.7    5 years ago

The food in Tijuana's garden of delights or the food in ICE's chamber of horrors? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @9.1.12    5 years ago

Both. We could do a contrast and compare analysis

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.1.14  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.13    5 years ago

I'll ask Perrie if scratch 'n sniff inserts are possible.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.1.15  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @9.1.14    5 years ago

oh god no, this place already reeks of right wing bullshit.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.2  devangelical  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    5 years ago

exactly. how many immigrants or documented workers would risk prosecution or deportation to vote? none. I appreciate most state's efforts to make sure all drivers are licensed and insured to operate motor vehicles on our roads.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    5 years ago

Is CA doing the enhanced DL thing yet? It will serve more or less as a federal ID which everyone will need to board a plane. I have a military ID card so I can wait.

 
 
 
Ender
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9.3.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.3    5 years ago

I have one. A little star in the top corner.

 
 
 
Veronica
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9.3.2  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.3    5 years ago

In New York there are a couple of ways you can go - I got the enhanced that can be used for crossing into Canada & to get on planes.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @9.3.2    5 years ago

I have a passport, but I think it needs updated. It's kinda complicated to get one here. You have to have your birth certificate, proof of identity (current DL or military ID), proof of SS#, and paycheck stub, utility bill, bank statement. You can also use your fishing license for proof of residency...lol

 
 
 
Veronica
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9.3.4  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.3.3    5 years ago

Pretty much the same here in NY.  I was going to get my passport, but then I had to cut off my arm to renew my DL & figured I would wait a year.

 
 
 
Kavika
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9.3.5  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @9.3.3    5 years ago
You can also use your fishing license for proof of residency...lol

All fisherman/women lie 'cept you and me, that could be a bigly problem...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @9.3.2    5 years ago

That's a good idea. I still think I will need a passport to go to Canada when I get mine

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.3.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @9.3.5    5 years ago

I never lie about where I fish!

 
 
 
JBB
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9.3.8  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.3    5 years ago

The fact is that we are all IDd anymore. Internet security is such that we can safely bank and do our taxes on our smart phones. There are fifty video cameras in my building's lobby and the hallways plus another fifty in the courtyard, basements and streetside. Voter fraud is difficult, highly illegal bothvat the state and federal level and easy to detect and prosecute. That is why it just does not happen in any significant ways...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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10  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 years ago

Locking till Vic gets back.

 
 

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