Group Poll: How long before Biden bows out?
“I know there are concerns about why we did not begin evacuating Afghan civilians sooner,” Biden said. “Part of the answer is some of the Afghans did not want to leave earlier, still hopeful for their country. Part of it was because the Afghan government and its supporters discouraged us from organizing a mass exodus to avoid triggering, as they said, a crisis of confidence.”
You have a choice of four selections:
1) Before midterm elections
2) After midterm elections
3) He'll finish one term
4) He'll run again in 2024
The reason for the poll is obvious. At this stage we can say that Joe Biden is not up to the task and he has ushered in a lot of insane radical policies that the nation never voted for.
The nation's frustration can be seen on the face of the usually mild mannered Dana Perino. I think it speaks for many of us.
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This poll is open to all of NT. I encourage the group members to cast a vote.
Funny that not one hard core lefty has weighed in so far!
Read on below. A "hard core leftie", me, just spoke up
This is nothing but a joke. You didn't post a poll. If you wanted to get an honest result, you need to post a poll.
Don't like it? Then why post?
I thought maybe you didn't know how to post a poll. If in fact it's nothing more than a group poll why did you promote it to the Home (Front) Page? I'm gone, so sorry to have "interfered".
Post a "poll", then we'll have something to like or dislike. That's "why post".
He'll last at least as long as the incompetent buffoon did, you should add this to your list of choices
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I pray he finishes one term because Kameleon is worse, he will be a lame duck in 2022.
Well said. He told us why Harris was selected and it wasn't based on her being ready for the role of leadership. She may be worse. Her elevation will do the democrats no good.
Why was Kamala Harris selected as choice for Vice-President by Joe Biden, Vic Eldred? Please share expeditiously.
"In the first one-on-one Democratic primary debate Sunday, former Vice President Joe Biden vowed to pick a woman Vice President and promised to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court. When asked about his plans for a running mate, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said that “in all likelihood” he would also pick a woman, but that his running mate would be a progressive."
That's the what, not the why. Why did candidate Biden say VP candidate Harris is not "ready for the role of leadership"?
You trivialize everything.
That aside, which privilege or set of privileges did Joe or Donald use to get ahead in life:
1. Party affiliation privilege?
2. Male privilege?
3. White privilege?
4. All of the above?
5. None of the above?
In conclusion, you can't or simply won't answer the question!
Because they were in the middle of a damned campaign and at the time, he was putting her down for his own benefit. She was the competition FFS it isn't that hard to understand.
Answer the question @2.1.5. Or don't and everyone can make their own judgement as to why your 'lips' are moving but on bull patty is being whipped out.
Biden did not say what you attribute to him. Vic Eldred did. Get your people straight FFS! Now try again.
Now if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.....
@2.1.5 it is one question. Don't answer it. The point is already made.
Answer the question or drop this. (If you are going on, you could have answered a single question by now!)
Don't get angry. Answer the question @2.1.5 or not. Trash talk does not constitute a suitable response!
Trash talking is all some here have.
She checked two boxes.
Pray tell. Which two? And you can answer the question @2.1.5. if you wish.
You know the two boxes: female and 'of color'. Biden told us his key criteria. Why she, out of the other candidates who met the criteria, was chosen is a very good question. Especially given the attacks she made on Biden during the campaign.
Competency? As for (professional/personal) attacks, in politics its par for the course. Just look at the "friendly" cable news feeding frenzy over our current 'bloody' Afghan problem.
Are you saying you think Biden chose her because he thought her competent? Moreso than the other candidates?
Joe Biden would not have been ignorant of her competency; selecting her for incompetency would have been ridiculous! And when it comes to other candidates, the term "all-around (360 degrees)" enters in.
Now then, which black-woman-person of color would have been your competent choice for Joe Biden? It's a moot point, because he made his selection based on his ideas, but it would inform this discussion, nevertheless.
Is that how you interpreted my comment?
Condoleezza Rice.
Condoleeza Rice was not a member of the Democratic Party VP 'hopefuls.' Hard to choose what is not available.
I am aware of that. But that is who I recommend.
Okay. For now, we can not know if democrats and progressives would have gotten out the vote for a Biden/Rice cross-over ticket. May be it can be poll tested in the future.
Yeah I doubt it would have worked. Partisan thinking screws up everything.
I was happy Ms. Rice was selected to be Secretary of State and National Security advisor. You may remember I shared that I voted for George W. Bush the first time around - due to disapproval of Clinton's sex scandal (affecting CINC.)
Frankly, I never understood how she could be so high up and not suffer harsh repercussions (like Colin Powell did by having his reputation tarnished) over the failed lack of WMDs in Iraq! In addition, she seems to ride above it all. That is, even while serving the Bush administration there were 'statements' that her dream job would be an offer to become NFL Commissioner. And now she is at Stanford University. Totally disengaged from the squabbles and arrows of political parties and current national policies.
I get an impression, that like Michelle Obama, she simply has "been there-done that." Don't wish it again.
CB wrote: "Why was Kamala Harris selected as choice for Vice-President by Joe Biden, Vic Eldred? Please share expeditiously."
1. Progressive
2. Female
3. Woman of color
I think thats just some of the things that the biden primary team locked themselves into during the race for the nomination.
Now what follows is simply my opinion .
Looking at the trend of past VPs, usually they are a form of assasination insurance something seldom talked about or considered really . someone that one really hopes wont have to step up , but could if need be and would not have to be considered a shoe in by the party for their own nomination.
Looking back over the past 20-40 years , at all the former VPs , how many would be comfortable with them taking over the presidency long term?
Spiro agnew , ? rockerfeller ? gore ? cheney? pence? get the point ? and the point is they are considered short term place holders for some with no expectation of party loyalty from the party due to how the public sees them .
The US electorate is a pretty fickle bunch , and likes and dislikes change as often as the wind changes direction , and always it goes where it will .
4. Attorney General (California).
5. Senator.
Yup, nothing racist or misogynist with this word choice here at all. I must be misreading the COH on this site
I have always expected Biden to be a one term president due to his age. He was elected, I believe, largely to rid the nation of Trump.
Is an NT poll supposed to be included in this article? If so, I do not see one.
I don't want to shut anyone out. So yes, it's open to everyone. Why?
That's 3 for 1 term.
I do not see an automated poll control. It looks like a manual poll. Was that your intent?
An automated poll should be easy to incorporate and use.
Why are you being evasive? Look, Vic, I did not build the poll so there is no 'pride of ownership', etc. I was just curious. Okay, so you decided to do a manual poll because the NT automated poll is too cumbersome for you.
Is that the answer?
How would posting the actual poll shut people out? You say 3 but how do we know if you won't put the poll up?
Personally, I am extremely suspicious of the polling software. People are saying that it can be easily manipulated by the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians, the North Koreans, the Andorrans, and now even the Taliban!.
So I hereby call for the NT polling software to be seized (after the poll is finished) and an audit of the NT polling software to take place!
Yes, of course my comment 4. 1. 5 was meant as a joke-- I posted it because obviously no sensible person would take it seriously!
And there's no doubt in my mind that the NT polling software is excellent-- totally flawless-- some of the best there is!!!
And I'm not sayin' that we should actually do this-- but many people are saying that it "might be interesting" to get one of those special Ultraviolet Light doo-hickeys (computer techie types often refer to as "thingamajigs") and examine their servers for any traces of Bamboo fibers.. if ya catch my drift!
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Considering this is not even a poll, I agree - it must've been manipulated by all of them rogue actors and must be seized at once!
I have a few conservative friends that voted for him on that expressed purpose.
It's like draining a lake of everything, including the Rainbow Trout, in order to get rid of Carp.
I think there is a lot of voter misgivings about 2020.
This is yet another area where Trump has done the nation a disservice. He took the spot of what might have been a good PotUS. Instead, he was such a miserable character that people had no choice but to just get rid of him.
In other words, a decent human being with Trump's policies and the strong economy he enjoyed would have sailed into reelection. Further, I seriously doubt that this PotUS in the abstract would have taken Trump's position and tried to talk his way out of the pandemic and, in so doing, downplayed the seriousness thereby providing excuses for those inclined to not abide by restrictions.
That is why I continue to hope (albeit without much confidence) that the R party will get hold of its senses and rally around a decent human being. Rid themselves of Trump and provide someone that the American people might actually want to elect as PotUS.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I– I think a lot of– a lot of Americans, and a l– even a lot of veterans who served in Afghanistan agree with you on the big, strategic picture. They believe we had to get out. But I wonder how you respond to an Army Special Forces officer, Javier McKay (PH). He did seven tours. He was shot twice. He agrees with you. He says, “We have to cut our losses in Afghanistan.” But he adds, “I just wish we could’ve left with honor.”
BIDEN: Look, that’s like askin’ my deceased son Beau, who spent six months in Kosovo and a year in Iraq as a Navy captain and then major– I mean, as an Army major. And, you know, I’m sure h– he had regrets comin’ out of Afganista– I mean, out of Iraq.
He had regrets to what’s– how– how it’s going. But the idea– what’s the alternative? The alternative is why are we staying in Afghanistan?
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BIG FUCKING DEAL.
Donald Trump was the most unfit for office president in the history of this country. I know nothing about you, and I would vote for you over Trump in a heartbeat.
It is a tragedy what Trumpism has done to America. Whats worse is, Trump doesnt give a fuck. He wants to know whats in it for him.
He was a very good one. We just witnessed what happens when some moron tries reversing things that Trump did.
Damn all those who voted for the presidency based on tweets. Damn Obama and co for enabling the Biden candidacy.
No, such incoherent babbling is a big fucking deal.
Did you read how Trump claimed covid was gone when he left office? Like OMG, is he really that fing clueless.
Failure seems to follow some around.
I think there is a lot of voter misgivings about 2020.
Well if that's not absolute proof that this Election was faked... I don't know what is!
When Biden tells us to ingest bleach or horse dewormer, I'll start giving non-zero misgivings.
Or, maybe when Trump tells us when Jr. was stationed when he was in any branch of military, I'll start respecting him. Oh, wait, none of that is going to happen. So, there
I had figured maybe two years in or so (after midterms). I know I'll catch shit for saying this, because I am not a doctor, but I can see it in his eyes and mannerisms. My father suffers from the early stages of what is called Lewy Body Dementia. And when I watch President Biden speak and how he moves about, it looks unbelievably like the way my father's eyes look, how he speaks, and how he moves around. In my father's case, it started gradually but in a pretty short period of time he went from a vibrant, articulate, and very active individual to one who increasingly slurs his speech, loses his thoughts, and moves around very slowly. Sometimes the symptoms improve or worsen, good days and bad days, but there is a gradual decline.
I truly hope I am wrong about President Biden, but it just looks to me like he won't be able to keep up before too long. And it is sad to watch, just as it is difficult to watch my father deteriorate as well.
He looked very bad to me when he first started his campaign. After winning South Carolina I saw a different Biden and he seems to be steady since then. But, age takes its toll and I know how quickly a healthy person can falter. I saw it with my father-in-law. Scary, really.
On top of that, the prospect of a president Harris is not appealing.
No "astute" observation.
Bingo!
You want to do this again? Like I told you before, we can do this all day.
BINGO!
Perhaps. I hope so actually.
Have you ever known and taken care of somebody with LBD Tessy?
I really do hope I'm wrong about this. We'll see.
Again, I sure hope so.
I know I'll catch shit for saying this, because I am not a doctor, but I can see it in his eyes and mannerisms.
Well I was going to post a comment about what I see in Trump's eyes...and his mannerisms...but I won't!
Greed, arrogance, and a third grade vocabulary and temperament? I’d agree completely!
And how he got elected in the first place was largely because the left put up such a poor candidate against him in the first place.
That knife cuts both ways
Yes, Hillary was a terrible candidate. It was her turn (just like Bob Dole had his turn).
Although, amazingly, Trump makes her look like a saint in the character department.
That is a matter of opinion.but is kinda like debating what smells worse.
A dog turd or a cat turd ......
It is very clear cut to me.
Can you imagine Hillary Clinton, after losing her reelection bid as PotUS, engaging in a massive lie sans any evidence that our national election system is corrupt and that she is the legitimately reelected PotUS? Can you imagine her for two months while still PotUS using the power of her office to influence her supporters against the integrity of our national electoral process, its technology, its officials, its workers and, in effect, attempt to delegitimize the election because she could not stand to admit that she actually lost?
I dislike Clinton but there is no way I see her engaging in such an action. I cannot imagine anyone (as a sitting PotUS) engaging in such an action and was actually surprised when Trump made an historical first with his absurd con job.
I am even more surprised (and dismayed) that Trump sycophants continue to support this disgusting lie.
It is to me as well.
Massive lie? Was it ever proven by independent sources that it wasn't corrupted? No, no it wasn't. Not by independent sources, not even close.
You mean a candidate who callled Trump supporters a basket of deplorables? Damn right i could. Again, had the election been thoroughly verified by independent sources, the election legitimacy questions would have went away. I wonder why the left didn't want that to happen. Only one good reason i can come up with. They have something to hide.
Your choice of words betrays your biases. Heavily TDS weighted biases at that. Like all Clinton and Biden supporters are sincere and unservile. Hilarious
You actually believe that Trump's claim that he is the legitimate PotUS could be true? After 61 lawsuits, numerous recounts, the entire normal electoral process by the states, certified results, etc. and you think that somehow there is hidden evidence of massive corruption that changed the results of a presidential election for the first time in our history.
Amazing that you think any politician would stoop as low as Trump did. That you apparently do not recognize the abysmal and historical dishonesty and lack of character.
Bullshit. Those who believe Trump's Big Lie are by definition sycophants.
I am shocked that you actually believe Trump's claim might be true. Now that is something I did not expect from you.
I didn't stutter and stand by everything i said.
Lets just leave it at this ..... i couldn't disagree with you more here.
Now here is where you and the mutual admiration society ostracize my comment.
On to bigger and better things for me.
Telling. Still very surprising. But, okay, now we know that you are among those who bought Trump's big lie.
I feel exactly the same way ..... exactly And don't try to put words in my mouth please. You clearly know better
What words did I put in your mouth? I was careful to follow exactly what you wrote.
Are you now going to deny stating this about Trump's Big Lie?:
You either hold that Trump might be right that there was corruption in our electoral process at a level that actually, for the first time in US history, changed the result of a presidential election or not.
Which is it? Trump's claim sans evidence, even 10 months later, after all the recounts, etc. is either something one can rationally hold as possible or rationally dismiss as unfounded and ridiculous.
You assert that Trump's lie has not been PROVEN false (even the entire electoral process, the lawsuits, the recounts and no evidence is not sufficient proof to you) so why are you putting up a pretense of equivocation?
What would it take to PROVE to you that Trump engaged in a typical Trump con where he confidently lies, repeatedly, with the hope of the constant repetition causing people to actually believe his bullshit?
Your bias is showing. The Clintons are in the exact same character department as Trump; which is the reason they hung out together before Trump decided to run for PotUS. Birds of a feather flock together. Same with pigs in a pen. The Trumps and Clintons both eat from the same damn trough.
Bill just happens to be a very likable bag of sleaze and corruption.
Tig, we have a half dozen people ( or more) on this site that came here being known as people who believe anti-government and anti-Democrat conspiracies. There is nothing surprising about it. Sometimes that aspect of their politics will submerge for a little while, but it always comes back. There really is no "reasoning" with such people.
The only way we are going to get back to where we want to be as a nation is when these attitudes are gone, and social media in 2021 makes their being gone questionable, in the foreseeable future, at best. America is currently in a degraded condition.
Cut the bias crap; I have stated clearly that Hillary was a horrible candidate. Try to pay attention to what I wrote.
I also stated a clear scenario. Tell me that you can envision Hillary Clinton, after losing reelection, engaging in a massive con-job where she attacked the credibility of our election system for two months while PotUS without a shred of evidence that shows corruption at a level that would come even close to changing the results of the election.
Even though it happened, I still find it incredible that a sitting PotUS would engage in such a dishonest attack on our nation's electoral process, technology, officials, workers, etc. But worse are those who, to this day, in spite of the facts and any semblance of common sense, defend those actions.
There is no reasoning with those who are not willing to deal with reality. No doubt about it.
All one can do is expose the irrationality (which is what I do).
I know hindsight is 20/20 but she should have demanded a recount. Her loss should not have been accepted as gospel considering who she ran against.
I agree.
A recount is only appropriate if there is reasonable evidence that it could change the results. I am confident Hillary's campaign looked at the numbers and calculated what it would take to change the results and decided that it was a dead end.
And yet that "poor candidate" actually got more votes than Trump did!
Meaning, more Americans voted for Hillary than Trump!
But the reason Trump became president is because, while losing the popular vote, won the Electoral college.
(I know some people don't like facts...but that's the actual truth... )
The Steele Dossier. Enough damn well said!
So is your point that political operatives use ugly tactics against their opponents? If so, how is that supposed to relate to what I wrote?
I say 3 too. He will ride out his fuck up in Afghanistan unless an American is killed. The media will eventually start making excuses for him and carry his water. The Republicans are useless and spineless so Biden will be able to finish his disastrous term.
I had never seen him walk as fast as he did to get off the stage after that COVID speech.
LMAO, How does he say it? They'll be mad at me if I take questions.
At best, option 3. They can hide him, and cover for him for another few years, I'd imagine.
Five for a complete term.
One says he's just about cooked.
I hope he lasts for one term so I vote #3. Kamel Hairless would be even worse than he is
That's seven
The nation's frustration can be seen on the face of the usually mild mannered Dana Perino.
Actually Dana looks like she made queso again.
The nation's frustration can be seen on the face of the usually mild mannered Dana Perino.
Well if that's not proof positive that Trump should be re-instated (yet again!)- I don't know what is!
I think they will push him out after midterm loss, but hope he finishes because Harris would be very bad
I think you might be correct. But can you imagine the damage the Democratic party would absorb, if after a midterm loss they replaced bumbling Biden with hopeless Harris?
She's the greatest insurance policy against getting pushed out a President could have..
I think they will push him out after midterm loss, but hope he finishes because Harris would be very bad.
Well, that's your opinion of course. And you might be right.
But consider this: many people don't feel that way.
(Its all kinda hypothetical anyway--- what are the odds of a political party removing a President (of their party) just because that party does poorly in the midterms? Feeling too lazy to google it, but my guess is that historically that been quite rare...)
Question is will the Republican constituents allow them not to impeach Biden; and possibly follow it up with Harris?
The Republicans had better be watching their faithful and independents closely on the run up to mid terms. The Joe shit show is gaining steam and it is taking the US down with him. Republicans running on stopping Joe; may find themselves backed into an impeachment corner; especially with the anger over the Democrats two impeachment attempts on Trump over nothing.
Not sure who has more to lose at this point Biden and the Democrats; or the spineless Republicans that seem unwilling to do what must be done.
I say Joe will finish out his term; Republicans will not risk Harris- but Joe's power will be gone. They will let him know in not so subtle ways that if he pushes things he will be removed. It is not good for the country to have such a weak president; but Biden can never regain what he has lost- and Harris will be far worse than Biden.
An interesting attack on some Republicans!
But who do you consider to be "Spineless Republicans"?
Mitch McConnell? Liz Cheney? Kay Ivey?
I don't know what you are blabbering about. You do realize that I am talking about spineless damn Republicans impeaching Biden. They are spineless and will not do it; even after Democrats have given them two openings- and lowered the standards to nothing for impeachment.
Now as to your examples which had nothing to do with the impeachment of Biden.
Mitch McConnell is blasted every damn day by the left; but makes one statement and you jump all over it. If you read the quote "Morally responsible" which means jack shit of nothing in a court of law; or an impeachment process. I don't remember McConnell voting for impeaching Trump. In fact the Senate voted not to impeach Trump which means McConnell didn't break ranks. So much for "morally responsible."
Liz Cheney isn't a Republican. She is a TDS driven moron; she will be a former Congress woman by the end of her term. The Republican party has already relieved her of her responsibilities. Democrats just love her because she is stupid enough to be Nancy's tool. Wonder if the Democrats will be reading the FBI report and ending their sham investigations? Of course not; because this isn't about facts- this is about keeping Jan 6th front and center for mid terms, and rampant TDS. Liz Cheney is too stupid to care about facts; and too TDS driven to end her participation.
Maybe Kay Ivey should depart her ivory tower and actually ask the people of her state why they aren't getting vaccinated. Nah, that would take too much damn time and effort. Better to run to the media and blast people she is supposed to be representing; but obviously doesn't know much about. I am sure they will remember that come election time and react accordingly.
I fully expect Biden to be POTUS until January 2029.
Only if the Democrats manage to change all of the election laws; do away with the electoral college; and grant illegals the right to vote.
Biden is the most colossal fuck up of a president that we have ever had; which is saying quite a bit.
Biden might wind up being the most hated president ever at the rate he is going.
My hope for Biden was that he defeat Trump (done ✓) and then engage in largely a housekeeping pattern (e.g. fixing our physical infrastructure, repairing international relationships). Nothing controversial or partisan, just get the boring stuff done that really needs to get done. Then, at the end of his term, retire from politics.
My hope (and I know I am really stretching here) is that we will have a D and an R candidate who both are qualified and desirable to serve as PotUS. Preferably individuals in their 50s-60s.
I fully expect you to be sorely disappointed. And that's a good thing LOL
That is okay considering your track record...
You really expect him to go two terms?
Ever see the movie "Weekend at Bernie's"?
Lol great analogy!
I do see some similarities .......
The woman of color becomes this once slave-driven country's Vice-President before a white woman so here is my suggestion: Run a white woman against her in 2024 put your vote down where your talk is!
And any chump can 'demonize' and trash talk-that's easy; now swaying hearts and minds to achieve victories-that's hard.
NOTE: Your so-called poll is 'stilted.' It does not have an (UNDECIDED) option for those incapable of agreeing with these four choices. Very important to have such in a poll for accuracy.
I strongly doubt the aim was for any form of accuracy, this was more of an ego bath than anything else.
Vic Eldred and Company are clearly stirring around in "old shit" because they have nothing substantial to criticize at-large. So it's back to the so-called, "hits."
Whoa-- wait a minute!
Are you actually claiming that these online polls have any validity at all?
If, say 15 or 20 people (in total) on NT vote-- does anyone consider that a large enough sample to accurately represent the entire U.S. voting public?
And even if anyone thinks is does--- do today's opinions accurately reflect events in the future?
Sometimes unexpected events changes thing! (Afghanistan anyone?)
Keep it in (NT) context, friend Krishna. A matter of perspective.
Maybe Biden should announce right now that he’s definitely running for a second term and that the only way he will lose is if the election is rigged. Then he should flirt with the idea of a third term, and publicly praise how wonderful the long terms of the electoral system in China is. I wonder what would happen if a POTUS ever did that.
He would get impeached twice by a rampant opposing party that put themselves in front of the Constitution, law, and common decency. The DOJ and secret service would launch multiple investigations against him based off of a political hit piece paid for by his political opponent. The media that made him would falay him alive for having the temerity of defeating their anointed candidate.
Don't worry; Biden only has to really worry about being impeached. Which is looking more an more likely with each passing day.
That is ridiculous. What is the impeachable offense?
Okay then just the 25th should do nicely. Kamala Harris is counting on it.
Where were you the last 5 damn years? Haven't you heard you don't need a reason to impeach! Or does that only apply when there is a Republican PotUS?
But if you really need to ask. They can impeach him for the border crisis (failure to enforce US immigration laws); or the newest crisis Afghanistan (dereliction of duty; or just sheer incompetence.)
That, now, is an entirely different matter.
Get serious. What are the high crimes and misdemeanors? For example, would you impeach Bush 43 (on incompetence?) for the WMD intelligence mistake?
Same for Trump. What were they? I will posit that it was a case of "show me the man and I'll show you the crime" and that was it. They had to keep digging and digging and digging some more to justify they two.
Which is looking more an more likely with each passing day.
lol - good one! [deleted]
Hal, these people are deluded conspiracy nuts which explains most of it.
What is with you two? It is childish to engage in the 'they did it so we can do it too' behavior. If you take issue with the level of quality you attribute to the Ds impeachments of Trump then why would you drop to that level?
Forget Trump and the Ds. Would you seriously and responsibly raise impeachment charges on Biden for Afghanistan and the border? Do you actually think that doing so would be following the spirit of the CotUS?
I know. These are the type of people who claim that everything is wrong and that they could do it better, when the reality is that they couldn’t even plan their way out of a paper bag. That used to be the exclusive realm of hardcore Libertarians, now it’s the mantra of every disgruntled gub’mint hating “conservative”.
Real funny. I am not a terrorist; and don't support those that are. Unlike those on the left with their support of BLM and Antifa.
Generalize much?
You might want to do some checking- Democrats just love impeaching Republican presidents- or at least trying to.
I think you vastly underestimate the Democrats and their willingness to impeach any Republican PotUS for any damn reason.
If the shoe fits wear it.
If you don't like it call out your partisan hack Garland applying a two tier justice system to the Jan 6th rioters; and BLM/Antifa rioters.
Secondly hold every damn Democrat responsible (and there are a multitude of them) that supported BLM and Antifa; and urged them on. In other words did the same damn thing that Trump did!
I think everyone is aware that political operatives attack their opponents including frivolous impeachments. Try to focus on what I asked you.
What I wrote is that it is ridiculous to impeach Biden right now because he has not committed high crimes and misdemeanors. I asked you to state the high crime / misdemeanor that they would charge him with. Show me how an impeachment right now is not ridiculous.
Don't just note that political operatives engage in ridiculous acts (we know), answer my question. What are the charges that you personally would honestly and credibly use to impeach Biden?
Excellent idea!
And while he's at it, he should sing the praises of North Korea's delightful leader Kim Jung-Un!
I will stick with the prediction i made after he was elected back in november .
which was he will serve just long enough so that when VP harris steps up she can run for 2 terms of her own , thus trying to create 10 yeras of WH /executive control by the party.
i was laughed at when i said that just like i was laughed at when i said republicans have a habit of being incompetent and inept when in majority control just as democrats usually have a habit of continued over reach when they have majority control .
time does tell.
Problem with that is that Harris is showing questionable ability to lead by a lot of people. Her abject failure as the border czar job given to her by President Biden as well as her pathetic antics on the Afghanistan crisis make her chances as a viable candidate for the presidential nomination slim to none at this time. Pretty bad when a lot of people in her own party don't even like her much. She is becoming a laughing stock.
After having my morning "blackwater medicine " , "juice of early morning life " i will somewhat amend part of what i said ,.
the total would be 12 years over all of one party control of the executive/ WH with one person in charge for total for 10 years , a feat that has not been duplicated since FDR was in office
That would be IF Ms Harris can win her own terms in office .
I'm for #1, just like the man behind the curtain planned.
Also for #1 with a qualifier, the press needs to start questioning Harris and her role in the Afghan pull out. So far she's been silent and by all rights should also be out front and center talking about it, but the press is letting her slide. If she were a person with any integrity, she should resign as VP not just for her bragging about her role in the pull out prior to the disaster of Afghanistan, but her gross silence since when she should be informing the people as what is being done to remedy (there isn't a way) the situation.
Power hungry people like Harris seldom let trivialities like honor and integrity influence them.
You do not think Harris seeks power?
Biden, IMO, seeks to do good for the nation. That is, I do not think he sought the office because he had an ambition for power. Ego, likely, but I think it was more altruism than ego or power. Harris, however, strikes me as entirely different. I do not see her seeking the office of PotUS for altruistic reasons.
Why not both or all? Of course, she is ambitious and in politics you need power to accomplish anything. Just ask Mitch McConnell!
BTW, let me get this off the table. Yes, Joe Biden is old. And in his old-age, opportunity to lead this nation landed squarely in his lap. Would he have liked to be POTUS when he was younger? Most certainly. But, life has a curious way of 'fate' that can catch us all 'off-guard' and make us go hmmm. We simply can not best life at positioning circumstances.
Kamala Harris is yet to shine, if she is capable and plans to do so.
'Power seeking' typically means desiring power for the sake of power.
I don't see it. Where do you see her "power-seeking"? In this country, "power seeking" will get you a large case of media abuse and little else. Yes?
If the candidate for president offers fellow politician a chance to step up higher, to be historic, and the chance to 'rise and shine' and she is not opposed to doing so - what is wrong with it?
Then there is no point in me responding. To me it is obvious.
Just opining or do you have evidence?
It is obviously my opinion; what else could it be? What sort of evidence do you think I should produce? For example, must I produce a link where Harris herself proclaims in clear terms that she is power hungry? My opinion is not based on such cut & dried evidence but rather my collective observation of her career.
That is why I stated that if you do not see it then there is no point in me responding.
Thank you.
IMO, the majority of politicians in both parties seek power. And fame.
Some also hope to use their positions to make money.
(But IMO the people who are primarily (or even entirely) motivated by money-- and who are also extremely smart-- go into the private sector, because if you're really smart you can make much, much more money there!)
I think the majority of politicians are primarily motivated by Ego (seeking fame) and many for power. (And a small minority are actually very altruisitic and do want to make the world a better place--mbut they are a small minority).
An administration headed by a man suffering from a debilitating neurological disorder, managed by a bunch of ideological mouth breathers with worthless degrees and no experience unable to manage a mustard shortage at the hot dog stand.
Do you have a link to this medical diagnosis? Or did you just make this up?
Billy Bob Thornton as Sling Blade was more articulate. Are you saying that you are of the opinion a man who can not speak or walk straight is of sound mind and body?
I mean I like taters, who doesn't?
No, I am not saying anything of the sort. I asked you where you found the medical diagnosis that you proclaimed as fact.
Looks like you did indeed just make it up.
Look, fact the facts. Trump lost the election-- he has not been "re-instated" and never will be. So let's forgot aboput losers from the past and focus on the future!
After watching Biden lying at his rambling, vague-eyed, mumbling at his "press conference" today, I'm having difficulty deciding between 1 through 3, but since I always try to be a hopeful person when it comes to the cognitively-challenged elderly, I choose option 3. His handlers will ensure that they trot him out in front of the public only when absolutely necessary, just as they did during the 2020 campaign.
And they talked about Reagan back in the day ...... Reagan was bright eyed and bushy-tailed by comparison
I remember that. Interestingly enough, Reagan finished his 2nd term at the age of 78 - the same age that Biden is right now, only 7 months into his first term.
I know and who knows what all that Botox has done to his brain ....
Also worrisome are Biden's previous life-threatening brain aneurysms.
Can we just agree that really old people shouldn’t be the president? Like if you are over the age of 70 you shouldn’t be elected?
Those were 33 years ago.
Yes, I know. Your point?
That was my point.
This was the worst poll ever, so bad in fact that it negated itself.
... and in the end
the polls you take
are equal to the polls you make
#2. Watching him during the campaign it was clear he would not make a full term. Now, i’m not sure he can make it to the midterms he is so mentally fragile.
Let some conservatives tell it; he was never going to leave his 'basement'! A lie told and retold by some conservative operatives, while Donald Trump was having his deceitful ass spooned to him in November 2020!
Yes, because the Democrats media shills spent all of their time bashing Trump; and none of their time vetting Biden.
Seems we are all paying for the media not doing due diligence on vetting Biden now.
Are you one of those "aggrieved" conservatives who says they don't gripe? There is always at least two sides to any narrative. The question is where is the truth that will prevail in the end?
Donald Trump is a 'funky' troubled man yet who puts him pants on daily just like every other man. Don't make him out to be some saint for he expressly states he asks God for nothing resembling forgiven.
If you want to be beholden to the memory of what could have been under the "clown-president" Donald Trump so be it! As for me, I will give former President Trump props for the good works he has done, but I will rebuke him appropriately for all the hell he stirred and heaped up into the air!
You support someone who asked Russia to hack his 2016 opponent, committed multiple instances of obstruction of justice while president, lied to the American people thousands of times, tried to bribe/extort the president of another country, lied about the dangers of covid , lied about the election being stolen, and incited a riot at the national legislature , and you have the gall to talk about Biden?
It was almost impossible for reporters to do so, since he rarely ventured out of his "bunker". When he did, he gave short speeches to a handful of selected guests. If he took questions, he called upon only a preselected group of friendly media.
The same applies even today. At his disastrous presser yesterday (8/20), he again used his cue cards to call on only 5 pre-selected reporters: AP, Bloomberg, ABC, PBS, and NPR.
Still passing that lie? Don't you ever get tired of spreading deceit? It was a sarcastic remark. Here is the whole damn segment. Secondly not even your precious Mueller report could find evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.
Never reached the magnitude of Clinton's or Obama's obstruction; but you already know that. Of course when you are being illegally investigated based off a Steele Dossier paid for by a political opponent you would be pissed to. Trump could have shit canned that whole investigation and saved tax payers millions.
Name me one damn politician that hasn't? It isn't a crime. Unfortunately the media isn't counting Biden's lies. Oh I am sorry those are just "misspeaks", "Joe living in his own world", and "That's just another Joeism".
You mean Joe Biden right? That is who you are talking about- who blatantly admitted to it.
You talking about the Democrats right?
Of course the Democrats downplayed the vaccines also, until Biden won that is. Whoops, you didn't bring that up. Guess I will just throw that in there because Democrats are assholes who will do anything to get elected.
You mean like Democrats and the left have about the 2016 elections for the last 5 plus years? No Hillary didn't demand recounts- she demanded that the electoral college vote for her instead. As did all of her sheeple. She also claimed the election was "stolen from her". Of course Democrats in Congress also tried to get Hillary declared the winner; and of course the protesters in the gallery- surprisingly none of them were shot.
Trump did nothing more than every last damn Democrat has done speaking and supporting BLM and Antifa before one of their riots. Of course that is different because of the all mighty D behind their name; and rampant TDS.
The gall? You have the gall to ignore everything Biden and Democrats have done wrong? You have the gall to have elected the most incompetent PotUS; who put in place the most disastrous administration ever? You are correct, the left are galling. They have been galling for the last 5 damn plus years. You elected this unmitigated POS to the highest office in the land; what are you going to do about his massive fuckups that are destroying this country?
In the clip about Russia, it starts with Trump saying he had never spoken to Putin. That was a lie, at that time.
The rest of your comment is exaggerations and lies.
Oh no, I gripe. Not going to deny it. I also don't deny that Republicans have faults, lie, and generally operate in their own best interests. But as I was taught repeatedly during the 2016 election, voting third party is a waste of a vote; and I allowed Trump to win by doing so. So I went with the lesser of two evils; which after 5 plus years of Democrat bullshit was the Republicans. I didn't vote for Trump, I vote against Democrats.
Really, tell that to most of the leftists on this site.
Here is the truth. The media didn't want Trump to win. They gave Biden a full on pass. We are paying for their disservice now. Trump was bad; and Biden is the worst thing ever to hit the Presidency.
Where did I defend Trump? Can't stand the man, reminds me too much of my father; and he and I didn't speak for 30 plus years. I wouldn't vote for my father either; unless he was running against a Democrat.
Start rebuking the current fuck up in chief. He has done a lot of things that need rebuking; and he doesn't seem to be listening to anyone at this point except the voices in his head.
Unlike you I gave proof for each and every last one of my points.
So prove they were lies and exaggerations.
Trump Invited the Russians to Hack Clinton. Were They ...
Trump illegally asked Russia to help him win ... - USA TODAY
Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around ...
Jul 13, 2018 · Russian officials began to target email addresses associated with Hillary Clinton’s personal and campaign offices “on or around” the same day Donald Trump called on Russia to find emails that
The Day Trump Asked Russia To Hack Hillary's Emails ...
Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Hack Hillary Clinton's Emails
Jul 27, 2016 · Trump also suggested Russia may already have the emails after a hack of Democratic National Committee files, which the party learned of in the late spring. The …
Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton's email - POLITICO
Jul 27, 2016 · The 9 wildest lines from Trump 's news conference. “To be clear, Mr. Trump did not call on, or invite, Russia or anyone else to hack Hillary Clinton’s e-mails today,” he wrote in a series of ...
HOW COME NONE OF THESE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOURCES AGREE WITH YOU ?
OME NONE OF THESE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOURCES AGREE WITH YO
Did you read the story? Trump asked Russia to help the FBI find the subpoenaed emails Hillary Clinton destroyed. Since Clinton had already used bleach bit to keep them from being turned over to the US government, they couldn't be hacked. This is all public record. Just because headline writers mangled the story is no excuse to keep the lie going.
You have one clip of Hillary saying the election was stolen (by Russian disinformation)
Would you like to see stories about Trump since Nov 2020? There are dozens of clips of Trump saying the election was stolen from him. Dozens.
Your comment is ridiculous.
You can force feed yourself any kind of story that keeps you sane, I will just keep pointing out that Donald Trump is a devious fraud 'front-man.' And you consider a dangerous fraudulent man worthy of your children's lives (as we see from the execution of 'Trump Doctrine' throughout red governships), at least admit that much (to yourself)!
I checked the bias ratings on all the above sources. All but PBS are liberal biased organizations. PBS is centrist in their views. Of course those others will be anti Trump pro Biden! You're going to have to do better than that John.
You don't know what you are discussing. CNN and MSNBC are giving Biden "what-for" over the Afghan situation. And Trump lost because regular conservatives (not you) wanted him to 'just go away.' (And STILL he won't.)
As to "the worst ever to hit the Presidency" you can't lay that label on "JOE." You're just attacking him for personal reasons.
The New York Times, Politico, NPR, USA Today, Time magazine, yeah a real bunch of communists there.
This "explanation" carries no weight in the larger scheme of things or life. You could have left off voting for president in 2020 and filled your local obligations—you did not! You are counted in Trump's millions of voters, nevertheless.
Unworthy personal attack on President Joe Biden. No need of further explanation.
Did I say that? No, you did. Please refrain from attempting to put words in my mouth.
He did say any of them are or were communist. He said they had a liberal bias. Now are you finally admitting that liberals are similar to and allies with the communists?
He said that they had a liberal bias not that they were communist. Are you now admitting that liberals are communists?
Here is the truth. The media didn't want Trump to win. They gave Biden a full on pass.
Correct!
Ronin2, you are truly a wise person indeed to have figured that out.
In fact, everytime I turned on Fox news all they would do is drone on endlessly about how terrible Trump was -- and offer endless praise of Biden.!
How come the Mueller report which I listed proved each an every last damn one of them wrong.
Or do you fail to comprehend that simple damn fact!
Is Fox News main stream media?
No, they are cable media and offset by CNN, MSNBC, etc.
One cable news network source as compared to the rest of all media. How does that factor out?
Of course. The only reason anyone says they are not mainstream media is because some on the right would like Fox News to be seen in rebellion against "the elites". It is their propaganda position.
Is the New York Post, a daily newspaper in New York City mainstream media? Of course. They are no different than Fox News in content.
So the fuck what John. Do please tell how the main stream media was so for Trump last election. How they gave fair coverage and took Biden to task and vetted him.
We are all waiting for examples.
Biden was allowed to hide in his basement; and release attacks on Trump which were reported diligently by the main stream media. What few interviews and question Biden allowed were always from safe outlets; and he knew the questions well in advance. Still didn't stop him from fucking things up- which should have been a great clue as to how his presidency would be.
I am sure every one of his handlers gave themselves concussions after smacking their heads over that one.
Donald Trump is/was the most unfit for office individual to ever run for high office in the United States of America.
I actually think the media went far far too easy on Trump for the past 6 years.
Trump would lie right into the camera and the anchors on "mainstream media" held their tongue about it until it was far too late.
Lol Fox News isn’t mainstream media? Well shit, then I guess mainstream media doesn’t actually exist if the largest of them (and they jerk themselves off to it regularly) doesn’t qualify. Shit, I may as well be the mainstream media and I’m not even a journalist.
Really, Fox is the largest? Tell that to Google.
So Trump had Fox News; and according to John the NY Post. Against the rest of the media.
Also, Fox News wasn't nearly the Trump loyalists the left like to make them out to be.
I will offer you the same damn challenge as John. Point out the favorable coverage Trump received from the mainstream media (Outside of Fox and the NY Post). Go ahead we can all wait.
Here are some articles that prove the point that Biden receive far more favorable media coverage than Trump while you are searching; because it still hasn't stopped now that Biden has been elected.
So do tell us all how the media doesn't coddle Biden; while bashing Trump.
John your rampant TDS is showing again.
The media was only pro Trump in 2016 during the Republican primaries because they wanted a weak candidate that Hillary could beat. She didn't fair well in polls against other Republican candidates. As soon as Trump won the nomination they turned against him; and haven't looked back.
I Biden would have been looked at with the same scrutiny as Trump he never would have been elected.
The Hunter Biden story alone would have doomed him.
I will offer you a challenge, why would anyone in their right mind give Donald Trump favorable coverage?
This is all ridiculous. In 2016, BEFORE the election, Donald Trump was a KNOWN habitual liar, crook, bigot, moron and cheat. All known before the election.
Why would anyone vote for him?
Oh yeah, they wanted to take their country back from the non whites.
I have your true TDS. Look no further than the worship he receives from your fellow traveler.
You can keep hounding that quip day after day after day and guess what.
It loses all meaning and makes the one using it sound desperate. Like they don't actually have an argument so they go to name calling.
Your entire premise, which you keep running into the ground, is that it was unfair for the media to give Trump negative coverage.
That premise is absurd.
Nope.
I'm not!
PLEASE, PLEASE. PLEASE President Biden. Survive until the end of your term. Dealing with you is a truly horrible concept, but if you exit, we will then be stuck with VP Harris.
I realize it's a toss up between Mickey or Minney, but at least with Mickey Biden we will not need to listen to the continual laughing cackle of Minney Harris.
LOL. If that's what the right-wingers think, then appointing Harris VP was the best insurance against being removed from office that Biden could have chosen.