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‘We Have No King but King Jesus’: 101 Ohio Pastors Push Back Against Vaccine Mandate in Open Letter to Biden

  
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By:   Andrea Morris

‘We Have No King but King Jesus’: 101 Ohio Pastors Push Back Against Vaccine Mandate in Open Letter to Biden
“Forced COVID-19 experimental vaccinations will leave our military and health care systems shorthanded and vulnerable. The benefits of the vaccine mandate do not outweigh the known risks.” The letter also emphasized that the value of humanity comes from God, not the government. “Mr. President, your Administration believes the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do not come from our Creator GOD but rather from a federal government which does not know its right...

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The vaccine mandate and its enforcement along with other matters is proof of the authoritarian fascist inclinations of our federal regime.  It is damaging our nation and risking our medical and physical health and our national security by draining down the number of medical staff, first responders, police, and military available to protect us. The dystopian nature of Biden’s approach to covid is repressing peoples willingness to consider use of the vaccine and is counter productive.  Just like their demanding that all border patrol agents be vaccinated but the enemy illegal alien hostile invaders the regime is letting in need no vaccine no testing and exposed carriers resettled in red communities to keep the virus alive there to have an excuse to preserve emergency powers and mandates longer and prevent a return to normal so they can break the economy in order to impose socialism and the green new deal.  


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‘We Have No King but King Jesus’: 101 Ohio Pastors Push Back Against Vaccine Mandate in Open Letter to Biden



Andrea Morris October 12, 2021


The debate over President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate continues to be a matter of contention among federal workers, contractors, and the private sector as his administration attempts to crack down on unvaccinated Americans.

Some say the mandate violates an individual’s personal and religious freedom while others argue that it ignores the natural immunity of millions of Americans because they have fully recovered after coming down with COVID-19.

A group of Ohio clergy representing more than 100 congregations across the state  signed a letter  Monday that was addressed to President Biden, detailing why they strongly disapprove of his directive, according to Front Lines Ohio.

“As clergymen from one hundred and one (101) diverse congregations across North Central Ohio, we would like to note that this unnecessary mandate by your office is in sharp contrast to the statement you made as President-elect on December 4th, 2020 when you stated you would not impose a national vaccine mandate,” the letter reads.

It also points out that on Oct. 7, 2020, Vice President Kamala Harris stated she “would not take a COVID-19 vaccine if ordered by the President of the United States.”

The pastors draw attention to the virus’ high survival rate which has raised issues over why the Biden administration is mandating that people receive the vaccine. 

“The federal government should not impose its will on persons by mandating COVID-19 experimental vaccines and removing other alternative treatments. The people should have the ability to make their own health decisions,” the letter read. 

“This unilateral and divisive order is unethical and tantamount to what a totalitarian king would dictate,” the missive continued. “Furthermore Mr. President, with respect to your vaccine mandate, we respond by saying ‘We have no king but King Jesus.'” 

Pastor J.C. Church, one of the clergymen who signed the letter, said Biden is trying to scare the public rather than truly protect them. 

“Joe Biden can take his medical advice somewhere else. We are not going to listen to him,” Church told  Front Lines Ohio . “This President and his godless Administration have foot-in-mouth disease for every issue they touch. Since he does not have the scientific data nor the trust of the people, he uses fear to try to get compliance. Authoritarians in Marxist governments use this method.”

Another pastor who chose to sign the letter explained to the news outlet that it takes years to develop an immunization, then it has to be properly tested which did not happen with the COVID-19 vaccine.

“Testing an experimental vaccine normally takes ten years to properly evaluate its performance,” Pastor Jerry O’Brien noted. “It is immoral for persons to be forced within a matter of months to take an unproven COVID-19 experimental vaccination associated with nearly 15,000 deaths, 1.5 million reports of adverse events, and at least one hundred thousand breakthrough COVID infections in vaccinated persons. While the Bible calls every human being precious, the Biden administration is treating its citizens like human guinea pigs.”  

“The national workforce along with families protecting their own personal health will be adversely impacted when coerced to either take the jab or lose their job,” O’Brien continued. “Forced COVID-19 experimental vaccinations will leave our military and health care systems shorthanded and vulnerable. The benefits of the vaccine mandate do not outweigh the known risks.”

The letter also emphasized that the value of humanity comes from God, not the government.

“Mr. President, your Administration believes the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do not come from our Creator GOD but rather from a federal government which does not know its right hand from its left. Your Administration’s politicization of the truth is profound,” the letter read. 


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Some say the mandate violates an individual’s personal and religious freedom while others argue that it ignores the natural immunity of millions of Americans because they have fully recovered after coming down with COVID-19.

A group of Ohio clergy representing more than 100 congregations across the state  signed a letter  Monday that was addressed to President Biden, detailing why they strongly disapprove of his directive, according to Front Lines Ohio.

“As clergymen from one hundred and one (101) diverse congregations across North Central Ohio, we would like to note that this unnecessary mandate by your office is in sharp contrast to the statement you made as President-elect on December 4th, 2020 when you stated you would not impose a national vaccine mandate,” the letter reads.

It also points out that on Oct. 7, 2020, Vice President Kamala Harris stated she “would not take a COVID-19 vaccine if ordered by the President of the United States.”

The pastors draw attention to the virus’ high survival rate which has raised issues over why the Biden administration is mandating that people receive the vaccine. 

“The federal government should not impose its will on persons by mandating COVID-19 experimental vaccines and removing other alternative treatments. The people should have the ability to make their own health decisions,” the letter read. 

“This unilateral and divisive order is unethical and tantamount to what a totalitarian king would dictate,” the missive continued. “Furthermore Mr. President, with respect to your vaccine mandate, we respond by saying ‘We have no king but King Jesus.'” 

Pastor J.C. Church, one of the clergymen who signed the letter, said Biden is trying to scare the public rather than truly protect them. 

“Joe Biden can take his medical advice somewhere else. We are not going to listen to him,” Church told  Front Lines Ohio . “This President and his godless Administration have foot-in-mouth disease for every issue they touch. Since he does not have the scientific data nor the trust of the people, he uses fear to try to get compliance. Authoritarians in Marxist governments use this method.”

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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President Joseph R. Biden 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500-0003
October 11, 2021
Re: Open letter from Ohio clergy regarding September 9th, 2021 Executive Orders & Actions pertaining to COVID-19 experimental vaccines
Dear President Biden,
On September 9th, your office issued sweeping executive orders mandating all employees of the executive branch of the federal government and all contractors of the federal government be fully vaccinated from COVID-19 or potentially face termination. This action was taken by your office to combat a virus with an overall 99.74% survival rate. (1)
In addition, your office instructed the Department of Labor to issue an emergency rule mandating employers with 100 or more employees to ensure they be fully vaccinated or provide a negative test for COVID-19 at least once a week. It is our understanding this new rule would reportedly affect two-thirds of the U.S. workforce and carry a $14,000 fine for each violation. (2)
As clergymen from one hundred and one (101) diverse congregations across North Central Ohio, we would like to note that this unnecessary mandate by your office is in sharp contrast to the statement you made as President-elect on December 4th, 2020 when you stated you would not impose a national vaccine mandate. (3) Ironically, several months prior, on October 7th, 2020 your Vice President Kamala Harris stated she would not take a COVID-19 vaccine if ordered by the President of the United States. (4)
This is a clear double standard. The Bible says in James 1:8, “For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.”
This pattern of insincerity continues when in your September 9th announcement, you publicly stated to our Constitutional Republic: “This (federal mandate) is not about freedom or personal choice.” (5) On the very same day, Vice President Kamala Harris publicly stated the polar-opposite when meeting with the abortion industry saying: “When people are able to make choices without government interference for themselves in terms of the well-being of themselves and their family, we are a strong democracy.” (6) Sadly, human tissue from pre-born infant victims of abortion has been used for the manufacturing of the COVID-19 vaccines. (7)
In other words Mr. President, your Administration believes the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do not come from our Creator GOD but rather from a federal government which does not know its right hand from its left. Your Administration’s politicization of the truth is profound.
Because of this hypocrisy and lack of dignity for persons created in the image of GOD, whether born or unborn, as leading clergymen of one hundred and one (101) diverse congregations across North Central Ohio, we reject a federal vaccine mandate that interferes with individual autonomy. We think it is immoral for persons to be forced to take unproven COVID-19 experimental vaccinations associated with nearly fifteen thousand deaths (8), 1.5 million reports of adverse events, (9) at least one hundred thousand breakthrough COVID infections in vaccinated persons, (10) and that may alter their own DNA. (11)
We believe the Bible when it says in 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, “Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God...”
It is no small matter that as illegal immigrants with no health screening are pouring across the U.S. border, they have been made exempt from your vaccine mandate. (12) Because of this derelict policy, it is not surprising that for Labor
        
Day 2021, there was a 300 % increase in COVID Cases during a period when vaccines are available as compared to the 2020 Labor Day when there was no approved vaccine on the market. (13)
Mr. President, we believe you too have crossed a line.
The national work force along with families protecting their own personal health will be adversely impacted when coerced to either take the jab or lose their job. Forced COVID-19 experimental vaccinations will leave our military and health care systems shorthanded and vulnerable. The benefits of the vaccine mandate do not outweigh the known risks.
We believe GOD-given natural immunity found in the human body as observed in studies from Israel (14) and the Cleveland Clinic (15) can be more effective for many persons than experimental vaccinations that have not been properly clinically tested. (16) We also believe other time-proven methods of treatment blacklisted by your Federal Drug Administration are as effective in combatting COVID. (17) (18)
In closing, to combat a virus with an overall 99.74% survival rate, the federal government should not impose its will on persons by mandating COVID-19 experimental vaccines and removing other alternative treatments. People should have the ability to make their own health decisions. This unilateral and divisive order is unethical and tantamount to what a totalitarian king would dictate. Furthermore Mr. President, with respect to your vaccine mandate, we respond by saying ‘We have no king but King Jesus.’
         Clergymen co-signors from one hundred and one (101) North Central Ohio include:
Pastor John Bouquet, Savannah Bethel Baptist
Bishop Sylvester Ginn, Ontario Hesed Agape Ministries Bishop Anthony Cooper, Shelby Life Church
Pastor Christopher Replogle, Crestline Calvary Baptist Pastor Randy Raynes, Mansfield Fellowship Baptist Pastor Dave Rentzel, Ontario Abundant Life
Pastor Mark Dettmer, Pleasant Grove Community Pastor Hank Webb, Belmont Community Church Pastor Mike Rose, Hope on the Hill Chapel
Pastor David Bates, Galion Unity Freewill Baptist Pastor Mark Wireman, Shiloh Pentecostal Church Pastor Mark Meyer, Lexington Gracepoint Sanctuary Pastor Eric Byrom, Mansfield Grace Fellowship
Pastor Jerry O’Brien, Orville Faith Harvest
Pastor Robert Kurtz, Mansfield Baptist Temple
Pastor Doug Tackett, Taylortown Community Church Pastor Dallas Waggle, Lucas Foursquare Gospel
Pastor Dan Baer, Mansfield Gospel Assembly
Pastor L.D. Broome, Paradise Hill United Methodist Pastor Rob Ratcliff, North Woodbury Freewill Baptist Pastor Matt Merendino, Clear Fork Alliance
Pastor Bruce Philippi, Journey Life Center
Elder James DeWeese, Providence Church
Pastor Joshua Cole, Tabernacle of Praise
Pastor Brian Snow, Fredericktown First Baptist
Pastor Les Vnasdale, Cornerstone Grace Brethren Pastor David Parsons, Zion’s Refuge Baptist
diverse congregations throughout the Buckeye Bible Belt of
Pastor Lucian Baker, Christ the King Community Church Pastor Joe Maggelet, Ashland Fellowship Christian Athletes Pastor Justin Lawhorn, New Vision Church God Prophecy Pastor Art Kenard, Shelby Maranatha Christian
Pastor Dave Davenport, Ontario Faith Baptist
Pastor Rick Maddox, Galion Alliance Church
Pastor Rick Lewis, Shelby Church of GOD
Pastor Bryan Schatzinger, Mansfield Calvary Chapel
Pastor Howdie Burnette, Perrysville Baptist
Pastor Chad Hayes, Mansfield Caeserea Baptist
Pastor Robert O’Brian, Apostolic Faith Assembly
Pastor J.C. Church, Bucyrus Victory in Truth Ministries
Pastor Steve Burkhalter, Ontario Potter’s House
Pastors Jim & Katherine Marshall, Ganges Community Church Pastor Les & Grace Farley, Lexington Irresistible Church Pastor Dink Porter, First Church of the Open Bible
Pastor Steve Baldridge, Rome Community Church
Pastor Dan Zediker, Mansfield Mission Point
Pastor Rich Hurles, Plymouth LifePoint Church
Pastor Brian Phillips, New Beginnings Freewill Baptist
Pastor Russ Smith, Shiloh Wesley Evangelical
Pastor John Temple, Loudonville Trinity Community
Pastor Earl Eiklor, Walker Lake Baptist
Pastor Ben Gregg, Plymouth Church of GOD
Pastor Clint Zeigler, Sovereign Christ Church
Pastor Clarence Sanderfer, New Life Baptist
Pastor Ted Howard, Apostolic Holiness Church
                              
 Clergymen co-signors from one hundred and one (101) diverse congregations throughout the Buckeye Bible Belt of North Central Ohio include: (Cont’d)
    Pastor George Lewis, Shelby Temple of GOD
Pastor Paul Lintern, Oakland Lutheran
Pastor Tim Davis, Newville Baptist Church
Reverend El Akuchie, Godsfield House of Prayer Pastor David Mahon, Galion Apostolic Assembly Pastor Matt Potosky, Albion Brethren Church
Pastor Tim George, Abundant Grace Fellowship Pastor David Ferrell, Mansfield Holiness Chapel Pastor Faron Cole, Rittman Eastern Rd. Church of GOD Pastor Joe Smith, Ontario Westside Baptist
Pastor Paul Matthewson, Maranatha Bible Baptist Pastor Steve Schag, Shelby Calvary Baptist
Pastor James Hill, Mansfield Paradise Church Pastor Joe Silvestri, Wooster Bible Church
Pastor Ferlie Yates, Hanna Road Church of GOD Pastor Dana Gammell, Cathedral of Life
Pastor Chad Berry, Lexington New Liberty Baptist Pastor Mark Bailey, Mansfield Freewill Baptist Pastor Steven Hodges, Galion Gospel Baptist Pastor James Mitchell, New Liberty Baptist Pastor Don Wilson, Mansfield Faith Assembly Bishop Eli Miller, Amish Perry District 2
Pastor Robert Bird, Perrysville Vermillion Baptist Pastor Clyde Kerby, Ministries of Hope & Healing
Cited References
Pastor Aaron Rose, Madison Fusion Church
Pastor Paul Lintern, Southside Christian Church
Pastor Rich Rader, Journey Harbor Fellowship
Pastor Glen Phillips, Hillside First Church of GOD
Pastor Aaron Boggs, Fredericktown Freewill Baptist
Rabbi Bob Bauer, Crestline Beit El Elyon
Pastor Jason Price, Victory Baptist Church
Pastor David Guild, Mansfield Foursquare Gospel
Pastor Mark Galambos, Aurora River of Life Church
Pastor Sheldon Mencer, Coshocton Mission 3:16 Church Pastor Steven Conn, Bethel Freewill Baptist
Pastor Floyd Allen, Philippian Community Church
Pastor Chris Spencer, Crestline Grace Baptist
Pastor William Payne, Emmanuel United Methodist
Pastor Kevin Evans, Ganges Liberty Baptist
Pastor Danny Akers, Victory Rock Praise & Worship Ctr. Pastor John Campos, Bowman Church of GOD
Pastor Brad Gentille, Shelby First Baptist
Pastor Ricky Branham, Willard Ripley Chapel
Pastor Berry Carter, Massillon City Bible Church
Pastor Bill Strader, Bucyrus First Alliance
Pastor Steve Brenneman, Awakening Church
Pastor Jeffrey Geaslen, West Salem Christ the Cornerstone
                         (1) “Coronavirus Recovery,” WebMD, Reviewed by Hansa D. Bhargava, MD on August 7, 2021,

(2) Pines Federal. “Biden signs Executive Order to require vaccines for all Federal Employees,” September 9, 2021

(3) “Joe Biden says he won’t mandate getting COVID-19 vaccine, wearing masks,” by Steven Nelson, New York Post, December 4, 2020,
(4) “VP Harris refused vaccine mandate with Trump,” WND, September 13, 2021 trust-president-kamala-harris-fiercely-opposed-covid-vaccines/
(5) “‘This Is Not About Freedom’: Biden Says Getting Vaccine Is Not A ‘Personal Choice,’ by Brianna Lyman, Daily Caller, September 8, 2021
(6) “Harris on Same Day Biden Announces Vax Mandates: ‘When People are able to make choices without government interference...We are stronger society,” by Cristina Laila, The Gateway Pundit, September 10, 2021 without-government-interference-stronger-society-video/
        
 (Cited References Cont’d)
(7) “Project Veritas: Pfizer downplays COVID vaccine’s ties to fetal tissue from abortions,” by Valerie Richardson, Washington Times, October 7, 2021, sidestep-queries-covid-vaccine/
(8) OpenVAERS, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data. Last viewed September 24, 2021.
(9) OpenVAERS, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data. Last viewed September 24, 2021.
(10)“Just in: 111,000+ breakthrough cases identified in US-more than 10X CDC’s count when they stopped tracking in May,” By Cristina Laila, The Gateway Pundit, July 30, 2021, vaccine-breakthrough-cases-identified-us-10x-cdcs-count-stopped-tracking-may/
(11) “MIT & Harvard Study Suggests mRNA Vaccine Might Permanently Alter DNA After,” by Dr. Doug Corrigan, Algora Blog, March 16, 2021, might-permanently-alter-dna-after-all
(12)“Joe Biden’s Plan for forced vaccinations for American workers does not include Illegal aliens,” by Jim Hoft, The Gateway Pundit, September 10, 2021, vaccinations-american-workers-not-include-illegal-aliens/
(13) “Daily U.S. COVID cases up more than 300% from Labor Day last year,” by Jessica Schladeback and Joseph Wilkinson, New York Daily News, 20210907-cb42e6polfehvldkhh43533wmm-story.html
(14)“Israeli study: Immunity to COVID stronger in those who had the virus than those who were fully vaccinated,” by David Heller, America’s Frontlines Doctors, August 29, 2021, study-immunity-to-covid-stronger-in-those-who-had-the-virus-than-those-who-were-fully-vaccinated/
(15) “Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals,” Med RXiV, by Nabin K. Shrestha, Patrick C. Burke, Amy S. Nowacki, Paul Terpeluk, Steven M. Gordon, Cleveland Clinic,
(16) “Drug Approvals - From Invention to Market ... A 12- Year Trip,” Medicinenet.com, as seen on September 30, 2021,

(17) “Why is the FDA attacking a safe effective drug? Ivermectin is a promising COVID treatment and prophylaxis, but the agency is denigrating it” by David Henderson and Charles Hooper, Wall Street Journal, July 28, 2021”
(18) “Study shows hydroxychloroquine treatments increased coronavirus survival rate by almost three times,” by Andrew Mark Miller, The Washington Examiner, June 9, 2021, percent?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=yahoo_feed

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
2  squiggy    4 years ago

...yet these guys expect the taxpayers to cover their medical bills?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  squiggy @2    4 years ago

$2,100. per Regereon or some other monoclonal treatment, millions already spent on ventilators no longer needed.

They apparently believe Go Fund Me can be the answer for all of the dependents left behind when they die with liberties intact.

Instead of joining the 60% of their fellow citizens

who received two $16.00 vaccine shots.

Makes perfect sense. /S

Gotta love organized religion

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    4 years ago

The virus is receding from Florida to Texas and across the south and in my area of California.  It is now moving northward. We shall see what happens there where the big majority of unvaccinated are in the various minority communities who are not yet conservative and how the lefts blame game will go then.  Of course it went unsaid that there are large minority communities in the south that were unvaccinated as well.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    4 years ago

Why do you keep spouting that lie. 

As of Sept. 29, 2021, 73% of Latino adults have been vaccinated with at least one shot, according to the   Kaiser Family Foundation .

This is slightly higher than white adults (71%) and Black adults (70%).

Latinos were one of the groups that saw the highest increase since July 2021, up 12 percentage points.

These numbers suggest that the U.S. is getting closer to eliminating the racial gap in vaccination.

“While these numbers differ slightly, the weight of these and other recent studies—it’s confirmation we’ve made important progress in increasing vaccination rates and in decreasing vaccination inequities,” said Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith, the chair of the White House’s COVID-19 equity task force, according to   Newsweek .

Asians are vaccinated at a 78% rate NA/AN exceed 80%.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2.1.2    4 years ago

Then there is no reason for vaccine mandates.  Combining that with natural resistance due to already having it and recovering from it, we are close enough to herd immunity that friendly persuasion and people voluntary taking it will get us there more quickly than coercion and the natural resistance to it will.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.4  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    4 years ago

So now you can't dispute the real numbers but need to switch gear (strawman), perfect response coming from you.

Now do you have actual facts/links to support your comment or could you tell me where your medical degree is from and what is your specialty?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2.1.4    4 years ago

We’ve noticed that as the number of people getting vaccinated rose, the evil dr Fauci kept hiking up the number required for herd immunity higher to keep it just out of reach so that emergency powers could continue to be rationalized away.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.6  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.5    4 years ago

More strawman and BS, are you not capable of answering a simple question? Seems that it's way above your capabilities. 

Keep trying though it's becoming quite the spectacle.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2.1.6    4 years ago

Delta Airlines Announces It is Ditching Vaccine Mandates for Employees: We are ‘Not Forcing Them’ to Get Vaccinated

by Kyle Becker about 5 hours ago

Delta Airlines’ CEO Ed Bastian appeared on Fox Business on Saturday and explained why the airline that he leads will respect employees’ personal health decisions and not enforce a vaccine mandate.

“We’re proving that you can work collaboratively with your people, trusting your people to make the right decisions, respecting their decisions and not forcing them over the loss of their jobs,” Delta’s CEO said.

Delta is the only major airline that has not mandated that its employees be vaccinated for Covid-19. The airline has an approximate 90% vaccination rate already, and expects this to increase to 95% in November.

“Mandate is only one way to get people vaccinated,” Bastian told Reuters Wednesday in an interview. “It’s a very blunt instrument.”

Southwest Airlines recently faced major operational disruption that compelled its CEO to announce that he would not be firing employees over the vaccine mandate.

“We are not going to fire any employees over this,” Southwest CEO Gary Kelly said .

“This is a government mandate, it’s a presidential order, and we’re doing our best to comply with that according to the deadlines that have been set,” Kelly added.

“I’ve never been in favor of corporations imposing that kind of a mandate, I’m not in favor of that, never have been,” Kelly said on CNBC. “But the executive order from President Biden mandates that all federal employees and then all federal contractors, which covers all major airlines, have to have a vaccine mandate in place by December 8. So we’re working through that.”

While the federal vaccine mandate was announced in September, it has not yet been formally issued by the Biden administration. The uncertainty has caused many corporations to pre-emptively comply with the vaccine order, even though the unannounced regulations would conflict with some state laws.

Southwest Airlines employees are reportedly organizing a peaceful protest , and American Airlines recently appeared to take a page out of the Southwest playbook by causing the airline major disruption.

On Wednesday, American Airlines saw at least 251 flight cancellations and 616 flight delays, the majority of them at the airport in Dallas-Fort Worth. The unusual surge in American Airlines flight cancellations and delays came less than a week after an organized protest at the company’s headquarters in Fort Worth, Texas.

“Hundreds of AA workers and allies protested outside the company’s Fort Worth, Texas headquarters,” Newsweek reported . “The protesters told The Dallas Morning News that they are skeptical of the vaccines’ effectiveness and their unreported side effects.”

According to the online publication Paddle Your Own Kanoo , “the protestors were a mix of employees from across the airline including pilots, gate agents and ramp workers. Some wore their uniforms, while their numbers were swelled by friends and family who supported their right to reject the vaccine.”

Currently, Boeing workers are conducting a major strike against the vaccine mandates and reportedly won’t return to work until they are overturned.

There may be even more transportation disruption ahead as 40% of TSA workers are unvaccinated. Truck drivers and dock workers around the world are threatening to go on strike and cause further supply chain chaos….

read more:
 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.8  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    4 years ago

I can see that you are not capable of answering a simple question without going off into Never Never land. 

Keep swinging you'll have a triple double soon.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2  Split Personality  replied to  squiggy @2    4 years ago

I cannot understand how the mayor of Chicago could hold her temper while 3 feet away the Chicago Police Union "head"

voiced defiance at the city wide mandate to get vaccinated when the police is is only department to really have suffered

from the virus.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    4 years ago

And what are Chicago streets going to look like with almost half its police force gone?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.1    4 years ago

And maybe China will invade Taiwan right after our military and its special forces are depleted by 25-40% of its total manpower in a few weeks?  

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2.2.3  SteevieGee  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.2    4 years ago

Since the entire Chinese military is vaccinated that will give them quite an advantage won't it?  We've been requiring vaccines for our military since the beginning of vaccines.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2.4  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.2    4 years ago
after our military and its special forces are depleted by 25-40% of its total manpower in a few weeks 

                        512

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2.3    4 years ago

That doesn’t change the nature of what could face us if we lose so much of our military manpower so suddenly.  Or medical staff or first responders or teachers or….It seems that there is a sizable population that will resist mandates to that extent.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.4    4 years ago

That does nothing to minimize the impact the resistance is having across our economy.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

Obstinance is the term the oppressors use to describe the resistance of the oppressed.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.10  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.8    4 years ago

You aren't oppressed.

You live in the greatest nation ever built by mankind.

We are number one in everything.

Including, but not limited to, the country with the most COVID cases, the most Covid deaths,

the most hospitalizations, the most under reporting of Covid deaths.

#1 in stupidity it appears.

The country that manufactures the most COVID vaccines

but cannot convince 44 million citizens that they are valued enough to give them the vaccines for free.

44 million putting each other and EVERYONE'S CHILDREN at risk.

CMTSU

 
 
 
squiggy
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2.2.11  squiggy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.2    4 years ago

They've had so many shots, they've lost count - and the anthrax line-up is worse than anything covid. They're not much more than the snowflakes threatening to move to Canada. But the real damage is when the antis take up bed space from legitimate procedures and emergencies. The antis ought to be presumed no-care status - go die on your own.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.10    4 years ago

We ceased being great on November 3rd 2020, and began our slide into becoming a 3rd world nation on Jan. 20, 2021.  

 
 
 
Ender
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2.2.13  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.12    4 years ago

You better stay home in your basement then. Not wander out on the big ol mean streets...being the country is destroyed and all.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.14  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.12    4 years ago

Sorry you feel that way.

maybe you should renounce your citizenshit and turn in your SS number and abdicate your SSA $$.

Put your money where your hateful divisive un-Christlike  partisan comments come from, your ass or your mouth.

I have lived through 14 Administrations, serving under 41,42 & 43

not once regretting being an American or uncertain of our capabilities or promises yet fulfilled.

MAGA is the greatest lie ever foisted upon the American public.

Unfortunately it seems to be the attention span of about 35% of us.

Sad to say.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.15  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.12    4 years ago

That comment is detached from all reality.

I did not like Trump but even he could not make US less great as a nation. Biden, like Obama before him, is serving with honor and grace...

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2.2.16  SteevieGee  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.5    4 years ago
That doesn’t change the nature of what could face us if we lose so much of our military manpower so suddenly.

I doubt that'll be the case when these people are faced with the prospect of a less than honorable discharge and loss of pensions.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2.2.17  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.12    4 years ago
We ceased being great on November 3rd 2020

The open hatred for America expressed by Comment 2.2.12 is truly appalling.  Not surprising that a self-declared enemy of the state would express such hatred.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @2.2.13    4 years ago

I live in a still economic booming red city.  The red states will try to prop up our economy until Jan 2025

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.19  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @2.2.15    4 years ago

Trump made America great again.  He’s going to do it all over again.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.20  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2.16    4 years ago

Most enlisted persons have no pension to lose.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.21  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.17    4 years ago

It was Cuomo who said that America was never great.  Biden said we never lived up to the founders ideals.  It’s the left that never accepted that we are an exceptional nation.  So with them in charge there’s nothing wrong with saying we aren’t exceptional as long as it’s them that are running it.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.22  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.17    4 years ago
It also points out that on Oct. 7, 2020, Vice President Kamala Harris stated she “would not take a COVID-19 vaccine if ordered by the President of the United States.”

The pastors draw attention to the virus’ high survival rate which has raised issues over why the Biden administration is mandating that people receive the vaccine. 

“The federal government should not impose its will on persons by mandating COVID-19 experimental vaccines and removing other alternative treatments. The people should have the ability to make their own health decisions,” the letter read. 

“This unilateral and divisive order is unethical and tantamount to what a totalitarian king would dictate,” the missive continued. “Furthermore Mr. President, with respect to your vaccine mandate, we respond by saying ‘We have no king but King Jesus.'” 

Pastor J.C. Church, one of the clergymen who signed the letter, said Biden is trying to scare the public rather than truly protect them. 

“Joe Biden can take his medical advice somewhere else. We are not going to listen to him,” Church told  Front Lines Ohio . “This President and his godless Administration have foot-in-mouth disease for every issue they touch. Since he does not have the scientific data nor the trust of the people, he uses fear to try to get compliance. Authoritarians in Marxist governments use this method.”

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.23  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.20    4 years ago
Most enlisted persons have no pension to lose.

That is another lie, your nose must be 3 feet long by now.

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
Freshman Silent
2.2.24  Duck Hawk  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.14    4 years ago

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SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2.2.25  SteevieGee  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.20    4 years ago
Most enlisted persons have no pension to lose.

As an employer I can't discriminate against somebody because of race, gender, or religion but, If you have a dishonorable discharge?  Yeah, I can get someone else.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2.2.26  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.21    4 years ago

Did Cuomo write Comment 2.2.12?  Did Biden write Comment 2.2.12?  No, a self-declared enemy of America expressed his hatred of our country when he wrote in Comment 2.2.12:  "We ceased being great". 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2.2.23    4 years ago

Because so many enlisted stay the full 20 years to get a pension.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.28  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.26    4 years ago

We will become great again as soon as Biden leaves office in total disgrace and shame.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.2.29  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.27    4 years ago

Having a dishonorable discharge for refusing to obey orders

closes many doors when it comes to future employment opportunities.

That's a Fact Jack !

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.2.30  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.28    4 years ago

Is this spitefulness part of your type of Christianity?

Very sad, like cancer. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.31  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.28    4 years ago

I hear The Looney Tunes Theme reading that!

Reality called. The divorce papers are signed.

You are free to spew insanity to your content.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.32  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.27    4 years ago

17% of military  retire with 20 years or more service or 2,190,000 retired as of 2021 the majority are enlisted.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.34  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.30    4 years ago

No spite at all.  He’s already there.  He just hasn’t left office yet. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @2    4 years ago

They are primarily talking about coercion used upon those who have already had the China virus and recovered from it having natural protection to getting it again far higher than the vaccine alone for the rest of us 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.3.1  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3    4 years ago
those who have already had the China virus and recovered from it having natural protection to getting it again far higher than the vaccine alone for the rest of us 

Prove it.

You cannot.

All you have is emotional drama.

Each of the 2 vaccine injections cost the government $16 for a total of $32.00

Covid anti body tests cost the government or your insurance  $69.00 

but they are only 55% accurate.

But let’s suppose we’re using this test on a random sample of 1,000 people from a population with a 5% prevalence rate, meaning that, on average, 50 out of 1,000 people will actually have antibodies to the virus. 

Of these 50 people with antibodies, the Cellex test will correctly identify 94 percent of the true positives, or 47 individuals. When it comes to true negatives, the Cellex test will correctly identify 96 percent, or 912 out of 950 individuals; the other 38 will get a positive result, even though they do not have antibodies. The total number of positive results will be 85 out of 1,000. But only 47 of those positive results will be correct, meaning that if you are one of those 85 individuals with a positive result, the probability that you actually have SARS-CoV-2 antibodies is only 55 percent — a predictive value that is better than a coin toss, but not by much.

How accurate are FDA-approved COVID-19 antibody tests? | MIT Medical

The solution is free, almost totally risk free and 90% effective at keeping people out of the hospital

and 91% effective against death.

Nationalism & patriotism should be enough to defeat the obstinance of the resistance to the needle.

Anyone willing to take a 50% pill instead of getting the vaccination injection 

is just a lying unpatriotic coward IMHO.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    4 years ago

"We Have No King But King Jesus"

are there no more rules against proselytizing on this forum ? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 years ago

No, Biden, This Is About Freedom and Personal Choice

It's time to stop "states of exception" that justify government overreach into more and more of our lives.

Nick Gillespie 9.

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XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 years ago

It’s in the content of religious leaders open letter to our secular elected leader on an issue of national importance.  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4  Ender    4 years ago

I am getting to the point that people can take their religion and shove it up their own asses and stop trying to tell other people how to live. Or in cases like this, how to die.

I am sick of these tax free pastors telling others about mandates.

Time to look into all their finances and tax them. They are nothing but frauds perpetrated on the people.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @4    4 years ago

Your hostility toward religion in general and Christianity specifically is duly noted.  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    4 years ago

The political push from so called religious organizations is well known.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
5  squiggy    4 years ago

"People should have the ability to make their own health decisions."

I let a similar statement go a few days ago but with sooo much clergy on board with this issue, it bears highlighting - These are the same guys who will tell us that women don't have medical autonomy.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @5    4 years ago

Who said women don’t have that over their own but not another’s body?  
The same progressives who say my body my choice when it comes to killing their child, deny it to those who do not want the jab for whatever reason.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    4 years ago

YOUR PREGNANCY doesn't threaten anyone.

It's a HEALTHCARE decision between 2 or 3 people.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONTAGIOUS

GET IT?

YOUR REFUSAL or your approval of those who refuse to vaccinate THREATENS MY GRANDCHILDREN.

GET IT?

VIRUS = Contagion

Zygote/embryo/fetus = none of your business to meddle in someone else's right to privacy. Not A Child

Your "my body, my choice" doesn't apply to suicide or murder by contagious diseases.

GET IT YET ?

And your precious Bible says that life begins with the first breath and ends with the last breath.

The Talmud states that there is no soul until that magic moment when the new born takes its first breath free of the mother.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.1    4 years ago

It said that about created adult beings Adam and Eve.  It never said a baby wasn’t a human life until it’s head emerged from the birth canal.  An abortion kills another with certainty.  The unvaccinated has the potential to infect another unvaccinated person.  

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
Freshman Silent
5.1.3  Duck Hawk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago

It would help IF you got past the first page of that book! Try reading the rest of it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago
The unvaccinated has the potential to infect another unvaccinated person.  

The unvaccinated have the potential to infect and possibly kill 

EVERYONE !

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
6  charger 383    4 years ago

Some say The Lord moves in mysteries ways, is the vaccine one of those ways?   

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1  Ender  replied to  charger 383 @6    4 years ago

Another saying, the Lord helps those who help themselves.

Seems to me it would fall into that category too.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
6.1.1  charger 383  replied to  Ender @6.1    4 years ago

very good point

 
 

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