Pelosi’s Shutdown: Why Americans Increasingly Blame Her for Failing to Reopen the Government
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Did you know that we’re still in a partial government shutdown? Of course you did. It’s hard to miss. This shutdown has broken records, and it’s finally gone long enough that some of the doom and gloom sentiment could start to come true. Federal workers are about to miss their second paycheck, and if Congress can’t pass a budget soon, we’re going to start to see some economic fallout from the shutdown.
While the left still tries to blame President Trump for the shutdown, they have taken unequivocal ownership of this problem. The President hasn’t even been given a budget to veto, and the House is now adamantly refusing any level of compromise.
Pelosi’s Requests
To understand this shutdown, you have to take a look at both sides. We can leave the blame game alone and resolve to know where the contentions exist and why a compromise hasn’t yet been reached. For Pelosi and her constituents, a federal budget will be unacceptable unless it meets a few criteria.
Some of the points that have been most vocalized are specific changes to immigration policy and procedure. The Democrats want protection for anyone formally classified under DACA. They also want to extend protections for people in America under the umbrella of Temporary Protected Status (TPS).
No, that’s not nearly all. They also want to expand resources for processing asylum seekers and similarly displaced people crossing the border. In addition, they want unilateral control over all discretionary spending in the United States, and that includes a policy of spending $0 on improving border security, even though the asylum processing would come from the same budget they won’t increase.
Lastly, they want Trump’s metaphorical head on a silver platter. At least, we hope it’s a metaphor.
Trump’s Offer
Knowing this, President Trump made an offer. He asked for $5.7 billion to expand border security. Among those dollars, nearly $1 billion is earmarked specifically to expand personnel, facilities and other resources dedicated to processing asylum and refugee cases. The goal of this money is to ensure we can handle the cases without separating families or having lapses in humanitarian aid during the process.
To compromise with the Democrats, Trump also offered a three-year extension on both DACA and TPS protections. Other than that, he’s actually left the rest of discretionary spending up to the Democrats in the House.
Calling this offer a compromise is an understatement. He’s given them absolutely everything they want in exchange for $5 billion of increased border security and his head on a platter. Signing this offer would be a huge win for the left too.
The Devastating Refusal
The fact that the Democrats completely refused this offer without making a counter is insane. It’s basically everything they wanted. Sure, they could counter with a longer extension of protection for DACA and TPS. They could even negotiate on the price tag of border security. They did neither.
Instead, Nancy Pelosi fully rejected the offer before it was even made. Assuming she knew what would be in it, she said, “It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House,” and called the offer a non-starter.
That’s obviously stupid. Extended DACA and TPS status would easily pass the House. A billion dollars to protect asylum seekers also seems like an easy win for the left. They only contention they have with anything in the budget is that some of the $5 billion — that was requested by Border Patrol by the way — will go towards physical barriers in area where there are none. It’s a ridiculous, childish contention, and with this move, Nancy Pelosi has taken full ownership of this shutdown.
She panders to the people and bemoans how hard the shutdown is on federal workers. She tells us it’s crashing the economy and a danger to the people. Then, when she gets an offer that has absolutely everything she wants, she throws it completely out the window and refuses to even counter the offer. She did all of it to make sure President Trump can’t say that he made progress on his promise of a border wall. It’s downright heinous.
Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats in Congress are direct enemies of the American people. Saying “gotcha” to Trump is more important to them than anything. They will gladly watch us all suffer, die and burn if it means they can score political points against Trump. There are no excuses. There are no words.
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“The fact that the Democrats completely refused this offer without making a counter is insane. It’s basically everything they wanted. Sure, they could counter with a longer extension of protection for DACA and TPS. They could even negotiate on the price tag of border security. They did neither.
Instead, Nancy Pelosi fully rejected the offer before it was even made. Assuming she knew what would be in it, she said, “It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House,” and called the offer a non-starter.
That’s obviously stupid. Extended DACA and TPS status would easily pass the House. A billion dollars to protect asylum seekers also seems like an easy win for the left. They only contention they have with anything in the budget is that some of the $5 billion — that was requested by Border Patrol by the way — will go towards physical barriers in area where there are none. It’s a ridiculous, childish contention, and with this move, Nancy Pelosi has taken full ownership of this shutdown.”
Really since when did they want a wall to pay for that the president not long ago was promising mexico would pay for and when did they start accepting temporary status of Daca ?
insanity ?
Insanity is giving one man too much control over all of us.
If the GOP and Senate Dems come up with an agreement that Trump is willing to sign off on as seems likely now, and Pelosi blocks it, the entire shutdown will be on her for however much longer it lasts.
Nope this is all on Trump and he was proud to shut it down and hold 800,000 American workers hostage because he can't have his vanity wall
Yes it seems the president has decided on a different approach to get his wall. So it is much more likely that the congress will find a solution to the rest of the disagreement issues soon.
I'd say he had been saving this Ace in the hole card for weeks if not months, evidently the nation does need a government because the pressure was building fast from many angles. I'm glad trump has changed tactics but I still believe his ways and mean of accomplishment suck.
IMO: He is mainly doing this change because he knows his power could be in jeopardy if he kept pursued the avenue he was on.
Someday somehow trump will get his wall, although I wouldn't be surprised if most of us refer to it as a fence. An apple is still an apple..lol
That's fine. We have been building the fence for years and will probably be building it for years to come.
This doesn't surprise me a great deal. I figure that's why he has been floating the "Emergency crisis issue" for the last few months. Now he may actually move on declaring it.
If he does of course it will be questioned, then as I said before trump will need to prove his crisis exists. I doubt half of congress is as easily swayed as the last two years worth were. So the fight continues forward, in a different venue, the courts.
Who knew building a wall could be so complicated ? ...lol We all did.
KAG, Have a good rest of the evening.
Maybe so but it's probably true that once trump doesn't care about the wall and is going after it a different way if pelosi and the dems refuse to negotiate at all the blame will shift at least from the republicans perspective.
Who started this mess will get lost in the shuffle and the blame/shame game from the white house will be in full force. That you can bet on.
It will always be trump's shutdown and people will NOT forget
I agree, many didn't and never will. Now trump is actually backing off it seems if the dems don't the republicans will do all they can to try to change it into something it's not. That's how the game is played, reality doesn't mean much, nor words its all an illusion and a big O house of cards.
800,000 Govt Workers could be paid. 1M "Dreamers" could be Legal. 330M Americans could be protected. By Tuesday. Pelosi says No.
If I remember correctly the DACA deal wasn't to make them legal but to extend up to three years their ''status''....Also I believe that buried in that offer was a small bit about wanting to cut legal immigration.
If that's correct that just might have been behind Pelosi saying no.
You remember wrong my friend, I recently read it was a permanent direct 3 year path to citizenship.... will look for the article where I read it and post it when I find it...
I haven't heard that...
I'll be checking it out.
Looks true, however it's now part of an even bigger more grandiose plan.
No huge surprise after all.
lol
And I'm glad she said no, trump is NOT getting his vanity wall
BS, Trump offered to extend DACA and TPS(?) by 3 years, kicking the can down the road ( again ) so that CONGRESS could enact something that a POTUS might sign (some day).
There hasn't been an offer for a path to permanent legality since the bipartisan Senate Bill 774 of 2013 which promised a 13 year path to citizenship for DACA and others.
That Bill was the one Boehner never brought to the House floor because
Partisan BS........
YEs it would protect them temporarily for 3 years until Congress acted
and it was tied to a reduction in immigration overall.
800,000 Govt Workers could be paid. 1M "Dreamers" could be Legal. 330M Americans could be protected. By Tuesday. Pelosi says No.
You are aware of the term "poison pill" aren't you? Trump's option had a plethora of them.
Apparently not.
NO that was a fence and we are and have been building it.
I agree but it seems to be a progressively worsening problem.
Maybe we should do away with the "executive orders" altogether.
They are basically a temporary stop gap tat make the US government less stable and less predictable long term anyway.
Nice delusion if one can afford it.
But...time is running out, 60% and rising of the voters blame Trump and the Right.
Trump is desperate for an exit and being made to eat his words.
This is going to be a very bitter pill for the right to swallow....your boy is getting his ass kicked by his own actions.
The icing for many? A woman is kicking his ass and Republicans are leaving him.
Live with it. All the propaganda you on the right are seeding....is getting exposed for what it is on a daily basis...and with each one of those days it just keeps getting worse for the right.
I love you lucid!
Roger Stone! Hahahaha!
Yeah, I was wondering why I haven't seen that seeded yet. I thought about it, but I don't have time today to moderate it.
Same here. That one will need moderation for sure.
You mean that you would like to see it censored?
A little fact for you to chew on...when the government shut down because Trump wasn't getting his wall money...
Was at a time when the Republicans ran all three branches of government and did for two years.
They wouldn't give him the money either..
Got to keep reminding everybody, they like to forget how all of the Trump shutdown under republican control started. They've always owned the shutdowns proudly until people turn on them.
For all of the GOP memes of "tax and spend democrats", It always seems that it is the republicans that can never keep from stealing from the federal coffers and putting US in debt.
It is how the far far far rightwing reacts to reality today. They just make some super hyperbolic pronouncements which fly into the face of all reality and are absolutely contrary with all the available evidence. Just consider the headline herewith. Do Americans increasingly blame Nancy Pelosi for Trump's and the gop's lousy government shutdown? No, not really. There is no evidence of it. Trump said he was going to build a great big wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. He lied. Then, Trump said he would own this, his signature Great Shutdown if the American would not pick up the tab for his vanity wall. The American People are already being charged a trillion dollars a year for Trump's massive tax cuts for the uber rich. Enough is enough. Nobody should buy the gop's and Trump's lying bullshit. This is their GD shutdown. They own it now...
What complete and utter bullshit. You're as bad as Trump when it comes to honesty. Trump said he proudly takes ownership of the shutdown - all the lies in the world will not change that fact.
Pelosi submitted bills the GOP had already agreed on to open the agencies that don't have anything to do with border security. McConnell refused to even put them to a vote in the Senate. He said they wouldn't put anything to a vote that Trump wouldn't sign. But the liar-in-chief has no principles and he had already agreed to sign a bill until Ann Coulter called him a bad name, and he had an ego meltdown and refused to sign after all. McConnell will never be sure that Trump will sign ANYTHING and he should have put the damn bills to a vote.
The Senate seems to feel they are Trump's personal stooges rather than working for the American people. They're such wimps - they have equal status to Trump but instead they're acting like his toadies.
Yep, Trump owns the shutdown without a doubt. But by the same token, Nancy Pelosi and her cronies surely own keeping the government shut down. Her intransigence and spite in refusing to make any kind of a deal that is all the Democrats way or not at all makes her just as culpable as Trump in this case.
although trump himself would probably call it counter punching with style.
lol
tit for tat . Take away my state of the union address, I'll take away your airplane.
Kinda like that.
Just making the country great...
lol
Pelosi's Shutdown?
Uh, damn antifreeze in the TEA again, huh?
It's Pelosi's. President Trump told her in December what is needed to keep the government open. She chose to go full retard on it. So, now we fast a bit we have democrats parying in Puerto Rico, trying to "go visit the troops" (a first in Pelosi's 40+ year career) and a few other things.
Then she and the rest of the mouth breathers complain about the 800k furloughed not getting paid and they don't vote? Yeah. This is Pelosi's.
And more so if she blocks a deal the senate and President sign off on.
And what was it the Trump said was required to keep the government open?
So, this is Pelosi's shutdown?
Trump shuts down the government while the Republicans controlled the house, for two years....the Republicans didn't give him the money so he shuts down the government and then tries to blame it on the person that hasn't even taken the gavel yet.
This is a total republican shutdown, started in DEC 2018 UNDER TOTAL REPUBLICAN CONTROL OF ALL 3 BRANCHES OF GOV'T! All for Trumps ego over a wall nobody wants (over 70% of Americans don't want it) and certainly NOBODY wants to pay for. Pass one of the house bills, including gop ones they already fricken passed last year, and open the gov't. You do no solve these policy issues with a damn shutdown! Border security can be and has been addressed, but stop taking the country hostage for Ann Coulter. Because now our entire security is at risk, directly because of the shutdown. Enough.
I believe the bag of shit in the white house, otherwise known as the great negotiator, said the shutdown would continue until he got his wall. I hope the air traffic controllers and the TSA walk off the job next and then hang the resulting economic calamity around the teapublicans necks.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Any enemy of Trump is my friend.
If you have to ask that, you obviously aren't paying attention. But, since you ask.
In December when the President pulled Pelosi and Schumer into the Oval Office in front of live cameras he told them to fund the wall.
That's funny. Did they ask 100% of the population? I wasn't ask. So that's false information. But then again pollsters are permitted where I live.
And the President told them what that bill should include. It wasn't included so there isn't even a reason to vote on it. But somehow the Democrats found $12B to send out to other countries?
So, yes, this is Democrat owned.
Over sampling democrats is common place among msm polling companies.
Any enemy of Pelosi and Schumer is my friend.
The DEMOCRATS have voted 10 times to reopen the gov't through the end of the budget cycle, and it got bipartisan support. MITCH MCCONNELL REFUSED TO ALLOW THEM. This is all Trump and McConnell and the gop that enable them. This was a republican shutdown, started under total gop control of both houses and WH. The 3rd one in 2018 I might add. The house and senate had passed the bills Trump said he agreed to back in Dec and it was set to pass. Until Anne Coulter got Trump's balls. Then he changed his mind. AGAIN. The reason he is getting the blame is because the entire world knows he is to blame. And Americans are really really pissed. This is nothing that should involve a shutdown, this is policy and is negotiated. Trump is a terrorist holding federal workers and America hostage. We don't negotiate with terrorists.
It is Nancy Pelosi and her house that are domestic terrorists and America’s enemy within.
Trump is the terrorist holding the country hostage for a wall for Ann Coulter that we don't want to pay for. This is not a reason to start a shutdown (all started under the GOP, as you tend to forget). Stop the shutdown, open the gov't, pay the people and then sit down and do policy.
Shame on you for being so reasonable.
Don't you know that this is a civil war?!
The far, far right wing does not negotiate.
The far, far right wing believes in scorched earth policy.
Why is Pelosi refusing to cooperate? Sheer plain unadulterated spite comes to mind...
That is exactly what it is.
She's doing what 70% of the country wants her to, not pay ransom to the terrorist holding the country hostage.
What's the excuse about the Republican controlled house not giving him the money for 2 years? He shut the government down while they still had the house.
You are confusing Pelosi with Trump. It is Trump playing dictator and liar in chief. Every day he lies. You know this.
Sadly this video is only available on Facebook, but it shows how the Democrats really prefer to handle their duties and is exactly what Pelosi and Schumer are doing, while saying Democrats don't act this way. They are throwing the temper tantrums that Schumer said they never do, and the video repeats Schumer's soundbite saying that while displaying their temper tantrums from the first day that Trump took office to today:
Yeah, because that's "real news"... if it can't be turned into a 5 second repeatable meme, dumb as fuck Republicans don't want to hear it...
So, are you denying that the video shows Schumer, in his and Pelosi's reply to Trump's speech about the shutdown a couple weeks ago, saying that "We don't govern by temper tantrum"? Are you denying that the Democrats had a sit-in on the House floor in a protest at the beginning of the Trump Presidency? Are you denying that the Democrats disrupted the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings before Grassley could finish welcoming people to the hearings? Do you deny that Pelosi invited Trump to give the SOTU on Jan 29th while in the middle of the shutdown, then withdrew that invitation while using the shutdown as the reason for doing so? Please say whether you deny these ACTUAL occurrences or not, as they are all easily proven as being the actions that Democratic lawmakers have chosen as the means to govern and are ALL temper tantrums.
So? What does any of that emotional word salad of lousy whataboutisms have to do with the fact that more and more people ARE NOT blaming the Democrats for Donald Trump's Great Government Shutdown of 2019. We will not forget Trump saying over and over again, "I am going to build The Wall and Mexico is going to pay for it". Are YOU denying that Trump said that? We will all be waiting on pins and needles...
Pelosi’s Shutdown
Not so fast there Bucko, one Mr. Trump on National television (therefore there is a record of it that cannot be refuted) stated that He would be proud to own the shutdown, cannot hand it off now that it has blown up in His face.
No plausible deniability on this one.
Here is proof it's trump's shutdown in his OWN words
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Hahaha!
Now the Republicans are eating their own again.
Republican lunch yesterday....Senator looks right at Mitch, trump's bitch and says
"This is all your fault!"
"Nancy Pelosi fully rejected the offer before it was even made. Assuming she knew what would be in it, she said, “It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House,”
"HER" robot" ……
......….hmmmmm……..
What is it that makes the Left Like "Robots" more than Humans !
Maybe 'cause she "Seems" so Human ?
Gotta luv technology huh.
No NO NO.. Please make No robots like pelosi.
Robotic humanoids need to look more like this:
Hahahahaha !
Pelosi is the OLD MODEL !
LOL
Time to upgrade.
For sure !
LOL..
Judging from the looks of the second generation, by the third generation, it may be worth it.
lol
Trump caved...no vanity wall funds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-leaders-continue-to-seek-a-deal-to-end-shutdown-that-will-satisfy-trump/2019/01/25/09c898dc-20ad-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.2894de6ec423
Trump caved... he's still in power.
no vanity wall funds... this way,
Next
"I see a crisis"
"and who knew it would be this complicated to build a damn wall?"
A crisis, well invent one or manufacture one. why not both ?
Welcome Venezuelans ?
Pelosi spanked him harder than Stormy.
LOL He probably enjoyed it.
this man is used to getting his own way, How is not as important as getting his own way, He's not done.
There is no cave. The federal workers get paid, they have three weeks to make a deal. If no deal shutdown round two begins with the workers financially whole or the emergency under the 1976 law is declared and there is no more shutdown at least on that issue though there may be one over spending levels even with the emergency declared.
There is no cave.
I know, it's a move to save power, the fight for his wall moves on.
1.1.3 321steve
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PS: KAG .. You'll love this: (Clicking the links not really necessary)
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Or is it really 5 ?
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There is your crisis !!
Need a crisis, encourage one.
Talk a great game and for weeks telling us how "we" like you're in the loop, will come out victorious with the shining city on the hill bullshit...
You got owned. Trump rolled over like the fake he is.
He even mentions shutdown again and the Dems won't have to worry about impeaching him, the Republicans will already have that in process.
I told you before I was waiting for this day. And here we are. Pelosi nor the Dems are anywhere near getting blamed as predicted, and Trump got his ass kicked by a woman.
Karma came back with an appetite.
Won't happen, your boy now lies on the ash heap of history.
SAD
The shut down started to reach Trump, news broke of the Back up at Laguardia Airport where he keeps his plane. Air Traffic Controllers were calling in sick, how would his snotty kids get out of the city if his airplane could not get off the ground in New York..Oh dear, such a shame...
Oh yes! Please,please do. Trump enacting the act would be a gift you'll never forget. As a matter of fact it would be the best thing you could do for the liberals. Please set that precedent and then watch what you brought upon yourselves.
That “precedent” has been used over 30 times already. The 1976 law was actually a limit placed by congress on then existing presidential emergency powers.
"Pelosi's shutdown" = an example of the room temperature IQ of a typical trump toadie
It is a fact of life as Pelosi showed how much harm she is willing to inflict upon America and its federal workforce and economy in order to deny the President the keeping of a campaign promise to his voters. I can’t wait to see the President announce the national emergency and why he’s doing it at the State of the Union address.
hasn't it only been recently that Democrats took any control in congress and before then it was all Republican controlled ? why hadn't the President been able to accomplish his campaign promise in the first 2 years of his presidency when his party had full control ? Are you going to try to blame the Democrats again when they didn't have control ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act
Barring a deal in the next two weeks, this is where we are going next.
I've changed my mind. I'm looking forward to Trump using the National Emergency Act.
That way he's cleared the way on important matters of concern. And set a precedent while he's at it.
A precedent that’s been done some 30 times already?
Not in this manner.
But that's okay. I heard a conservative Senator discussing it on NPR.
He was concerned because if Trump reaches for use in this manner it will open the door for it's use by a liberal president to use it after another child is killed by a semi-auto firearm.
There's a precedent that will bite the ass of the conservatives ....