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Howie Carr: Smirking media bias against GOP couldn’t be clearer

  

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Via:  make-america-great-again  •  5 years ago  •  95 comments

Howie Carr: Smirking media bias against GOP couldn’t be clearer
Now you need two AP stylebooks, one for Democrats, about whom seldom is heard a discouraging word, and a second for the GOP, with a hundred different pejoratives. Two parties, two vocabularies. One positive, one negative — very bad, evil in fact.

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Have you ever noticed how differently Republicans are treated in the media than Democrats?

Every newsroom in the country used to have what was called the “AP Stylebook” to use in writing news stories.

Now you need two AP stylebooks, one for Democrats, about whom seldom is heard a discouraging word, and a second for the GOP, with a hundred different pejoratives.

Two parties, two vocabularies. One positive, one negative — very bad, evil in fact.

Consider the testimony by Michael Cohen last week in front of various Congressional committees.

For example, since he worked for Donald Trump, Cohen was described about a million times as a “fixer.” Democrats, on the other hand, have lawyers.

To prevent the release of embarrassing information, Democrats’ lawyers negotiate NDA’s — nondisclosure agreements. Republican fixers’ NDAs are “hush money,” or “bribes.”

Hillary Clinton paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrat operatives who then bought or made up false Russian dirt on Trump — that was opposition research. Republicans, on the other hand, “collude!”

Republicans lie, Democrats misspeak.

Democrats plan, Republicans scheme.

Republicans hire lobbyists, Democrats use advocates. Republicans employ operatives or hired guns, Democrats prefer community activists.

If a Democrat changes his or her position on an issue, they have evolved … grown. Republicans “flip-flop.”

Whenever an unfamiliar politician is ensnared in some scandal, you naturally wonder which party he or she is a member of. If the “embattled” pol is a Republican, affiliation is usually noted in the headline, or at the very latest in the first paragraph.

If, however, you reach the third paragraph of the story without his party being identified, you can be absolutely certain you are reading about a Democrat miscreant.

Likewise, accusers are handled differently depending on who exactly they’re accusing. Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court was almost derailed by the not particularly credible “Dr.” Christine Blasey Ford. One of the women who’s accused Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of Virginia of sexual assault likewise has a Ph.D., but how often does the alt-left media refer to “Dr. Vanessa Tyson.” Fairfax, you see, is a Democrat.

Was Jussie Smollett’s fake hate crime ever referred to as “alleged?” Of course not. But all the real, documented, videotaped attacks on conservatives — invariably they are alleged, or “according to police reports.”

A Republican tax cut is a “corporate giveaway” for the rich, a boon to “one percenters” that the government “can’t afford.”

A Democrat-proposed tax increase, though, is an “investment in the future.” It’s for the children.

When there’s bad news about Republicans, Democrats “react.” But Republicans “pounce” or “seize.” Often, in fact, the only way any Democrat woes get mentioned at all in the media is when Republicans seize and pounce, not to mention “weaponize” Democrat scandals.

Let’s talk about legislation. When a Democrat solon finds a way to stop some GOP initiative, it’s because the brilliant parliamentarian (Nancy Pelosi?) has come up with a master stroke.

But when a Republican, say Mitch McConnell, does exactly the same thing, he is invariably called an obstructionist, relying on “arcane” tricks to produce “gridlock” and overturn centuries of “Congressional tradition.”

When Democrats in Congress hold oversight hearings, they are never less than “historic” “explosive,” full of “bombshells.” The Cohen hearings were so explosive, in fact, that I was expecting to see footage Wednesday night of the Capitol in smoking ruins.

Republican-run Congressional hearings are always described as grandstanding, sideshows, overreach and a total waste of taxpayer money.

Finally, the word of the day is “smirk.” Remember January’s first big fake-news hoax — the Covington Catholic high school students at the Lincoln Memorial. The kid in the Make America Great Again hat that day was Nicholas Sandmann, and he’s now suing the Washington Post for $250 million.

Every Social Justice Warrior on Twitter said the 16-year-old had it coming because of the “smirk” on his face. That was the smart word of the day — smirk.

So last week the illegal immigrant from Brazil who assaulted — allegedly — the 23-year-old MAGA-hat- wearing American in the bar in Falmouth was grabbed by ICE for being in the country illegally for 25 years. She got a big-time lawyer and he said, basically, that after getting boozed up, the illegal immigrant went all Third World on the American taxpayer because of his “smirk.”

So now apparently it’s OK to assault anyone wearing a MAGA hat … if they’re “smirking.”

No wonder half of America is beyond smirking at the alt-left media’s agitprop on behalf of the Democrats. The deplorables aren’t smirking anymore, they’re sneering.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

“Was Jussie Smollett’s fake hate crime ever referred to as “alleged?” Of course not. But all the real, documented, videotaped attacks on conservatives — invariably they are alleged, or “according to police reports.”

A Republican tax cut is a “corporate giveaway” for the rich, a boon to “one percenters” that the government “can’t afford.”

A Democrat-proposed tax increase, though, is an “investment in the future.” It’s for the children.

When there’s bad news about Republicans, Democrats “react.” But Republicans “pounce” or “seize.” Often, in fact, the only way any Democrat woes get mentioned at all in the media is when Republicans seize and pounce, not to mention “weaponize” Democrat scandals.

Let’s talk about legislation. When a Democrat solon finds a way to stop some GOP initiative, it’s because the brilliant parliamentarian (Nancy Pelosi?) has come up with a master stroke.

But when a Republican, say Mitch McConnell, does exactly the same thing, he is invariably called an obstructionist, relying on “arcane” tricks to produce “gridlock” and overturn centuries of “Congressional tradition.”

When Democrats in Congress hold oversight hearings, they are never less than “historic” “explosive,” full of “bombshells.” The Cohen hearings were so explosive, in fact, that I was expecting to see footage Wednesday night of the Capitol in smoking ruins.

Republican-run Congressional hearings are always described as grandstanding, sideshows, overreach and a total waste of taxpayer money.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

I’m stating facts about real media bias and double standards.  I will never stop pointing out the pro liberal bias of the mainstream media, their so called fact checkers, and the social media platforms on line.  I’m just glad the President is going to cut federal funding for universities receiving federal $ who deplatform speakers and alternative media because of their point of view.  The seeded article is right on in its documentation of lamestream media double standards.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago
I will never stop pointing out the pro liberal bias of the mainstream media, their so called fact checkers, and the social media platforms on line.

You never fail to attempt to do so by posting pro conservative hacks. 

The author of your seed states: 

Every newsroom in the country used to have what was called the “AP Stylebook” to use in writing news stories. Now you need two AP stylebooks, one for Democrats, about whom seldom is heard a discouraging word, and a second for the GOP, with a hundred different pejoratives.

I'm sure that Trump's sycophantic minions lap that bullshit up with zeal. 

First of all, the AP Stylebook doesn't have a 'news' section. 

Secondly, the AP Stylebook is at it's base, a grammar and punctuation guide. It is utterly apolitical, which belies the authors inference that there needs to be 2 versions now. 

Similarly, the author of your seed pretends that the terms he decries are somehow NEW. The term 'fixer' has been used for lawyers like Cohen LONG before Trump, as are the plethora of other terms that the author pretends are used 'unfairly'. 

This long used canard of the media being left wing is ridiculous. The 90% of the media in the US is owned by 6 multinational corporations and NONE of them are 'left wing'. Their ONLY agenda is PROFIT. 

The author of your seed pretends that we somehow need 2 AP Stylebooks when what he's actually talking about it a politically based thesaurus.  

An irony here is that the GOP are the ones that hired professional wordsmith Frank Luntz to 'create language' for the Party. 

Another is that Limbaugh has decried that Luntz was trying to 'dumbing down' the conservative message. 

Now, suddenly, conservatives are whining about the crafting of words. 

It drips with hypocrisy. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.2  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

Are you? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3  arkpdx    5 years ago

Good article! I not false statement anywhere in it. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  arkpdx @3    5 years ago

I agree and I’m glad that you liked the seeded article.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  arkpdx @3    5 years ago
I not false statement anywhere in it. 

[No Value]

"who then bought or made up false Russian dirt on Trump"

Oh, you missed a lie there. There is zero evidence anything in the dossier was "made up". Much has been verified, none of it has been debunked.

"Cohen was described about a million times as a “fixer.” Democrats, on the other hand, have lawyers. To prevent the release of embarrassing information, Democrats’ lawyers negotiate NDA’s — nondisclosure agreements. Republican fixers’ NDAs are “hush money,” or “bribes.”

There is a HUGE difference between an attorney doing legal work and a mob fixer like Cohen who was there to threaten, intimidate, lie cheat and steal to keep Donald Trump protected. It's why the judge ruled attorney client privilege didn't apply and thus couldn't be used as a defense in Cohen's case.

"Republicans lie, Democrats misspeak."

[Sweeping Gen

"No wonder half of America is beyond smirking at the alt-left media’s agitprop on behalf of the Democrats. The deplorables aren’t smirking anymore, they’re sneering."

Another lie. It's only about a third of Americans who support this douche-nozzle of a President. [Removed]

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to    5 years ago
You may be the only person that still believe the dossier is legitimate

Those who continue to doubt the dossier have always doubted the dossier, the rest of us have been waiting for it to be debunked as Trumps defenders claim it will, but that hasn't happened yet. The only thing Republicans have to claim it's false is the funding coming from Democrats, that's it. We get it, Republicans claim anything that was ever touched by a Democrat as inadmissible. Strangely they don't feel the same way in regards to things tainted by Republican hands.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    5 years ago
Oh, you missed a lie there. There is zero evidence anything in the dossier was "made up". Much has been verified, none of it has been debunked.

Prove it. Provide links with evidence backing you claims. Not unsubstantiated bullshit from unnamed sources in government.

The main "spy" the dossier outed was Carter Page- who to this date has had 0 charges filed against him. Page is the man the FBI/CIA claim is main reason behind the FISA request for wire taps of Trump Tower. But no charges, nothing, nada, zip. He is the forgotten man in Mueller's investigation.  You would think that he would be the first person brought in for questioning, and have charges filed against him. They have all of this "evidence" against him.

Instead Page is the one suing the Democratic Party for it's paid for hit piece; and demanding proof.  Funny how the government, nor Steele, or providing it.

"Unnamed sources" say you should do some research before making baseless claims.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.4  Dulay  replied to    5 years ago
You may be the only person that still believe the dossier is legitimate this morning they announced Glen Simpsons  testimony will be made public the we will see.

Glen Simpson's testimony was released long ago. DO try to keep up...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @3.2.4    5 years ago
' Glen Simpson's testimony was released long ago.  DO try to keep up...'

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lib50
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3.2.6  lib50  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.3    5 years ago
Provide links with evidence backing you claims.

The Steele dossier is a collection of raw data.  It wasn't mean to 'prove' anything, it was raw intelligence.  Some has been corroborated and some hasn't (yet).  Here is more information.  (By the way, nothing has been disproven yet.) 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.7  Split Personality  replied to    5 years ago
this morning they announced Glen Simpsons  testimony will be made public the we will see.

Huh? Are there multiple testimonies?  His August 2017 testimony was released in January of 2018...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    5 years ago
There is zero evidence anything in the dossier was "made up". Much has been verified, none of it has been debunked.

Please show us what has been verified!

There are a slew of x-FBI officials who wish they had such verification.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
3.2.9  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.8    5 years ago
Please show us what has been verified!

There are a slew of x-FBI officials who wish they had such verification.

Which ex-FBI officials are those Vic?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @3.2.9    5 years ago

The only information that  has been "verified" was already public information at the time Steele wrote it.  

His actual sourced information has proven false (Cohen went to Prague!) or not proven.

As the reporter who published Steele's allegations before the election recently stated, "you actually get into the details of the Steele dossier, the specific allegations, we have not seen the evidence to support them, and, in fact, there's good grounds to think that some of the more sensational allegations will never be proven and are likely false."  

People who claim the Steele dossier have been verified either aren't familiar with his actual allegations or are dishonestly trying to bolster his credibility by giving him credit for including material that was available in newspapers with the false propaganda he got from Russians. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.10    5 years ago
The only information that has been "verified" was already public information at the time Steele wrote it.

Link? 

His actual sourced information has proven false (Cohen went to Prague!) or not proven.

Link? 

From the same interview: 

However, Isikoff said he thought that the dossier was correct in asserting that the Russian government attempted to interfere in the election and “help Trump’s campaign.”
“In broad strokes, Christopher Steele was clearly onto something, that there was a major Kremlin effort to interfere in our elections, that they were trying to help Trump’s campaign, and that there was multiple contacts between various Russian figures close to the government and various people in Trump’s campaign,” he said.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @3.2.11    5 years ago

Read the dossier. 

, that there was a major Kremlin effort to interfere in our elections

Was publicly being claimed before Steele wrote the dossier. Wikileaks had already announced weeks earlier they had Clinton emails. Even the Clinton campaign was publicly alleging it before the dossier entry was created.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.12    5 years ago

Um-Hum....

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.14  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.12    5 years ago
Read the dossier. 

The dossier doesn't confirm or refute YOUR claim does it Sean. Why the deflection? 

Links? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.15  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.12    5 years ago

"By autumn 2015, the FBI knew that the DNC servers had been hacked and that Russian operatives were surely the culprit.  The  Times  reported as much on December 13, 2016 ."

That shows that the first of the dossier's claims was actually written in to the report after and only AFTER it became known.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.16  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.15    5 years ago
"By autumn 2015, the FBI knew that the DNC servers had been hacked and that Russian operatives were surely the culprit. ."

Where did you come up with that quote Vic? It sure as hell isn't from the link you posted, which says nothing of the sort. 

That shows that the first of the dossier's claims was actually written in to the report after and only AFTER it became known.

You'll have to answer my question before that can be accepted. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @3.2.14    5 years ago
The dossier doesn't confirm or refute YOUR claim does it Sean. Why the deflection?

The dossier and a basic a knowledge of current events does, in fact, confirm my claim.  

One aspect is explored by McCarthy in the link provided by Vic.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.18  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.17    5 years ago
The dossier and a basic a knowledge of current events does, in fact, confirm my claim. 

So you've got nothing... 

One aspect is explored by McCarthy in the link provided by Vic.

You mean the link connected to the fake quote? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.19  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @3.2.18    5 years ago

ou mean the link connected to the fake quote?

Why do you say things that aren't true?  

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.20  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.19    5 years ago
Why do you say things that aren't true?  

Oh but my comment IS true Sean. I asked where the quote came from and received no reply. As I said, the quoted statement is NOT included in the link article. 

It would behoove you to check your facts before you make FALSE allegations about me. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @3.2.20    5 years ago
I asked where the quote came from and received no reply

Because the article was linked to.  Don't ask to be continuously spoon fed information if you can't  even be bothered to read the provided links.

Does playing these silly little games seem like a productive use of time to you?   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.22  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.7    5 years ago

How do you release August 2017 testimony in Jan. 2017?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.21    5 years ago

It’s what some liberals generally do on conservatives seeds.  Par for the course.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.25  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.22    5 years ago
How do you release August 2017 testimony in Jan. 2017?

Your question should be why Grassley delayed the release. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.26  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.21    5 years ago
Because the article was linked to.

The article doesn't contain the statement that Vic quoted, does it Sean? 

Don't ask to be continuously spoon fed information if you can't even be bothered to read the provided links.

Don't pretend that information exists when it does NOT. I READ the fucking article which is why I can state unequivocally that it does NOT contain Vic's quote. 

Does playing these silly little games seem like a productive use of time to you?

Deflect all you want but neither of you has provided a link to what Vic quoted. Instead, you devolve into personal comments, as seems to be a conservative go to of late. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.27  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.22    5 years ago
How do you release August 2017 testimony in Jan. 2017?

It just takes a quick second to check his links to confirm he meant January 2018. But good for you catching the typo. Care to try actually refuting his comment and links?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.29  Dulay  replied to    5 years ago
Not all of it some was behind closed doors please try to keep up.

Why would you be waiting for that to be made public MUVA? 

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XXJefferson51
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3.2.32  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @3.2.26    5 years ago

Conservatives aren’t the ones making things personal in this country during ideological and political discussions.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2.33  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.13    5 years ago

 nationalreview is a far right wing propaganda site that spews nothing but lies and innuendo.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
3.2.34  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.32    5 years ago
Conservatives aren’t the ones making things personal in this country during ideological and political discussions.  

Are you claiming that Sean isn't a conservative Xx? 

 
 
 
tomwcraig
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3.2.35  tomwcraig  replied to  Dulay @3.2.9    5 years ago

Mueller being the only one of significance.  Since he was the former head of the FBI and is the one conducting the investigation that has not turned up any real evidence of what has been claimed so far.  He has made indictments against Russians for interfering in our elections; but has not made any connections between Trump and Russians during the 2016 campaign.  Almost every American that has been indicted and/or plead guilty to crimes were to crimes that were WHOLELY UNRELATED to the basic investigation.  These crimes range from lying on tax returns to not registering as a foreign lobbyist all BEFORE the 2016 election cycle.  The only one whom was indicted and plead guilty to a charge somewhat related to the investigation was Flynn for lying to investigators and even the investigators at the time didn't think he actually was lying to them.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.36  Dulay  replied to  tomwcraig @3.2.35    5 years ago

I'm pretty sure Mueller has confirmed everything he needs to by now...

Almost every American that has been indicted and/or plead guilty to crimes were to crimes that were WHOLELY UNRELATED to the basic investigation.

Flynn indictment was related and so is Stone's. 

The only one whom was indicted and plead guilty to a charge somewhat related to the investigation was Flynn for lying to investigators and even the investigators at the time didn't think he actually was lying to them.

Y'all keep saying that BS. Flynn thought he was lying and Flynn pled guilty to lying. Just STOP. 

BTW, Flynn's indictment was totally related to the Russian investigation. 

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
3.2.37  tomwcraig  replied to  Dulay @3.2.36    5 years ago

If he has confirmed everything, why hasn't his final report been submitted and his team disbanded?

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Did I say all the indictments or guilty pleas were for wholly unrelated charges?  I did not, I said almost all were.  I was not saying any BS.  Congressional testimony stated that the agents that interviewed Flynn thought he wasn't lying to them.

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Dulay
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3.2.38  Dulay  replied to  tomwcraig @3.2.37    5 years ago
If he has confirmed everything, why hasn't his final report been submitted and his team disbanded?

In relation to the dossier, he's confirmed all he needs to. As for the rest, Mueller still has testimony to present to the Grand Jury and documents to obtain. 

You really have an issue with reading comprehension and should probably go back to school for Remedial English 101 for it.

You really have an issue with lashing out with personal comments tom. 

Did I say all the indictments or guilty pleas were for wholly unrelated charges? I did not, I said almost all were.

I never inferred that you did. Perhaps it is you that should READ MORE CAREFULLY. 

I was not saying any BS. Congressional testimony stated that the agents that interviewed Flynn thought he wasn't lying to them.

Yet that alleged testimony was NEVER released, was it tom. So all we have is Nunes saying that Comey said that. You may take Nunes @ his word, I don't. 

Then, you again repeat your lack of reading comprehension.

Then you again devolved to making a personal comment. Why is that tom? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.39  Vic Eldred  replied to  cjcold @3.2.33    5 years ago

National Review is a Conservative publication which was founded in 1955 by the great William F Buckley. Part of the reason for it's launching was to respond to what some Conservatives saw as the shortcomings of a Republican administration at that time. Today it offers a good perspective on America's state of affairs. It is allowed as a source here and I will be using it as I see fit.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.43  Dulay  replied to    5 years ago
please keep up

Oh, I have. I said that his testimony was released long ago and now you post an article that is over a YEAR old stating just that like it's some kind of trophy.

So again, WTF are you waiting for MUVA?  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.45  Split Personality  replied to    5 years ago

Oh goody, a response !!!!!!

How very interesting......at the top of the page where in would normally have the date,

it says

DOSSIER

a year ago

Democrats Release Fusion GPS Testimony on Trump and Russia

Should I highlight it for you?

( a year ago )

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.46  Split Personality  replied to    5 years ago

It was REPUBLISHED  the other day

big difference between "released" and "republished"

Don't you think it would be on FOX and the dreaded MSM 24/7 if it was fresh meat?

If, when you open the actual 32 page document from the Senate Judiciary Committee, the date on the document is August 22, 2017......

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.47  Dulay  replied to    5 years ago
This was released tuesday not a year ago do you ever get tired of being wrong I know the answer.

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From the top of your link:

DOSSIER a year ago

Democrats Release Fusion GPS Testimony on Trump and Russia

Senate Democrats on Tuesday released the transcripts from a closed-door Senate Judiciary interview with Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson as part of the committee’s Russia probe. Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA), a Republican, had previously denied multiple Democratic requests to make public the transcripts.

Here are multiple sources with DATES for that event:

Even fucking breitbart posted it in Jan. 2018. 

Oh BTW:

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luther28
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4  luther28    5 years ago

                            Have you ever noticed how differently Republicans are treated in the media than Democrats?

I sure have. They behave as larger arseholes than the Dems, therefore they are portrayed as such, though during Mr. Cohens testimony they played themselves quite nicely.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  luther28 @4    5 years ago

The GOP has been wrongly treated by the msm

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  Tessylo    5 years ago

Another seed about Republicans GOOD

Democrats BAD

Yawn

I don't know how you do it - most of your seeds are outright sweeping generalizations and classifications of REPUBLICANS GOOD - DEMOCRATS BAD, EVIL

If I make an offhand remark - it's removed.

Yet the majority of your seeds and comments stand.

I don't know why I bother.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @5    5 years ago
Another seed about Republicans GOOD Democrats BAD

Actually, it's about the media and its characterization of similar behavior as good or evil based on who is doing the behavior, not the behavior itself.

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @5.2    5 years ago

Trump's behavior has been evil since childhood. His parents shipped him off to military school because they couldn't control him and hoped that the military could. It didn't take ("I know more than all the generals").

His vocabulary and demeanor equate to a 4th grade bully at recess.

We have an ignorant, stupid fool for a president.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @5    5 years ago

I don’t know either.  Of course we never see Trump is bad and Conservatives/GOP are bad /fascist seeds or comments from the other side now do we?  Of course we do.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.3    5 years ago

We just don’t whine or complain about it.  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.3.2  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.3.1    5 years ago

Actually you complain and whine about it all the time. Most of your seeds and posts focus on the perceived persecution of you, your politics and most especially, your extreme religious views.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.3.1    5 years ago

Your new avatar is very appropriate.  Rump at CPAC humping the flag - just like he is humping the world.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @5.3.3    5 years ago

At least he loves and respects it and the nation it represents unlike his domestic political opposition.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @5.3.3    5 years ago

At least he loves and respects it and the nation it represents unlike his domestic political opposition.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    5 years ago
To prevent the release of embarrassing information, Democrats’ lawyers negotiate NDA’s — nondisclosure agreements. Republican fixers’ NDAs are “hush money,” or “bribes.”

This, for sure. One of the more exasperating aspects of Trump coverage for me has been the characterization of perfectly ordinary (and common) behavior as unusual or even illegal.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.1  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @6    5 years ago

Short memory?  Remember John Edwards?  I used to like the guy and may have considered voting for him.  Until I heard about his true character.  I didn't excuse him because of his party (not belonging to a party makes it easier to hold politicians accountable).   Conservatives are the ones who don't care about the values they espoused just 5 minutes ago.  Remember when lying was impeachable?  Remember when no investigation was too small or went on too long?  Even after nothing was found and reported?  They just kept going.  So stop whining, its pathetic.  Just sit back and reap the karma. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @6.1    5 years ago

Nothing you just wrote has any connection to anything I wrote. Why pretend you are replying to me when it would be more appropriate to just start your own thread?

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.1.2  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    5 years ago

Jesus, this seed is about MEDIA COVERAGE and how they are always bad on conservatives and easy on democrats.  I just posted a rebuke of that notion.   And there is NOTHING ordinary or common about Trump and his behavior.  Maybe you need to stop thinking is such small bites if you can't see the link.  (And there is nothing normal about the NDA's Trump forces everyone to sign in office either.) 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6    5 years ago
One of the more exasperating aspects of Trump coverage for me has been the characterization of perfectly ordinary (and common) behavior as unusual or even illegal.

Really Tacos!? Can you name another Administration that had PRIVATE NDA's with WH staff? 

How about WH staff being required to swear personal loyalty to the President, his children and his businesses? Got another example of that? 

BTW, isn't there a Constitutional thingy about free speech and Federal laws and regulations about whistleblowers that make retaliation 'illegal'? 

Please explain your exasperation. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2    5 years ago
Can you name another Administration that had PRIVATE NDA's with WH staff? 

Now, if Trump had an NDA with Stormy Daniels (which is what I was thinking about) then it wouldn't have anything to do with any "Administration" or "WH staff." A "private NDA" would be - or at least should be - ummm . . . private.

However government NDAs are pretty common. The scope of them is probably a longer conversation, but they certainly have existed for years.

Here's a notice on that from when Obama was president: Nondisclosure Agreements Notice

Here is the one Hillary Clinton signed to join the State Department: Clinton — Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Agreement

Here is one required when being hired by the FBI: FBI Employment Agreement

Can the president limit what people say after they leave the White House? Maybe. Both Presidents Clinton and Obama put limits on their employees regarding lobbying that lasted a few years after they left the WH. Were they legal? I'm not sure they were challenged.

Fortunately, it's a free and just country. If you don't like the NDA, you don't have to take the job and if you do, afterward you can always challenge the thing in court.

Please explain your exasperation.

NDAs are common in both the public and private sectors. They're also perfectly legal, so calling them "hush money" or "bribes" is pretty inappropriate.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
6.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    5 years ago
Here's a notice on that from when Obama was president: Nondisclosure Agreements Notice

Here is the one Hillary Clinton signed to join the State Department: Clinton — Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Agreement

Here is one required when being hired by the FBI: FBI Employment Agreement

Perhaps you missed the word 'PRIVATE' in my question? NONE of the above deflection has ANYTHING to do with 'PRIVATE' NDA's. 

Can the president limit what people say after they leave the White House? Maybe. Both Presidents Clinton and Obama put limits on their employees regarding lobbying that lasted a few years after they left the WH. Were they legal? I'm not sure they were challenged.

FALSE. Previous administrations recognized that Executive Branch employees worked for the GOVERNMENT of the US, NOT the President. 

Secondly comparing a restriction on lobbying to a PRIVATE NDA is a False equivalency, as you well know. 

Fortunately, it's a free and just country. If you don't like the NDA, you don't have to take the job and if you do, afterward you can always challenge the thing in court.

More deflection. 

NDAs are common in both the public and private sectors. They're also perfectly legal, so calling them "hush money" or "bribes" is pretty inappropriate.

So your exasperation is based on conflating NDA's with 'hush money' and 'bribes'. That's easy to dispel. Since an NDA does not inherently come with a payoff, just recognize them as the separate issues that they are. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.2    5 years ago
Perhaps you missed the word 'PRIVATE' in my question?

No, I talked about "private" quite a bit. Honesty, it's like you're not really reading.

Both Presidents Clinton and Obama put limits on their employees regarding lobbying that lasted a few years after they left the WH.
FALSE.

Don't imagine that I make claims I can't back up. 

Clinton Reverses 5-Year Ban On Lobbying by Appointees

December 29, 2000
President Clinton yesterday revoked an executive order he signed on his first day in office in 1993 that barred senior officials of the White House and other agencies from lobbying former colleagues for five years.

How Obama failed to shut Washington's revolving door

“When I’m president of the United States, if you want to work for my administration, you can’t leave my administration and then go lobby.” — Barack Obama, campaigning in Iowa in August 2007 On his first full day in office, Obama underscored the issue's personal significance by signing what the White House billed as an “historic” executive order to bar his appointees from lobbying their former administration colleagues for two years after leaving the government.

What's kind of funny about it is that back then, the Left was actually critical of Obama for not doing a better job of controlling the speech of people who used to work for him. Imagine that.

So your exasperation is based on conflating NDA's with 'hush money' and 'bribes'

Yes. You can tell because I quoted that in my very comment. It's literally what I'm talking about.

Since an NDA does not inherently come with a payoff

It's just inaccurate and unhelpful to try to characterize all possible examples of a contract as the same. An NDA is a contract, the terms of which could be almost unlimited. Compensation for performance (or refraining from a certain performance) is a standard feature of a contract. Terms like "hush money" and "bribes" clearly imply some kind of illegal activity. Paying your mistress to keep her mouth shut about your affair is not illegal. Treating it like it is is dishonest. That's the whole point. I hope that clears things up for you.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.4  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.3    5 years ago
Don't imagine that I make claims I can't back up.

You can't back up your claim because you keep demanding that we pretend, along with you, that Executive Branch employees are the Presidents employees. They are NOT. 

What's kind of funny about it is that back then, the Left was actually critical of Obama for not doing a better job of controlling the speech of people who used to work for him. Imagine that.

Again, a restriction on lobbying has NOTHING to do with an NDA restricting an Executive Branch employee from speaking ABOUT Trump, his kids and his company. STOP trying to insult my intelligence by conflating the two. 

Paying your mistress to keep her mouth shut about your affair is not illegal.

It is if it a part of a conspiracy to deny the electorate what they need to make an informed decision. 

Treating it like it is is dishonest. That's the whole point. I hope that clears things up for you.

So it's not dishonest to be dishonest about the payoff? 

Again, some day one of y'all are going to have to explain WHY Trump keeps lying about what you insist he need not lie about...

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.4    5 years ago
Paying your mistress to keep her mouth shut about your affair is not illegal.
It is if it a part of a conspiracy to deny the electorate what they need to make an informed decision. 

Is it now? Which statute declares that a candidate for president has to tell the public about all the people he's ever slept with?

So it's not dishonest to be dishonest about the payoff?

Sure, but it's not a crime unless he's dishonest under oath.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
6.2.6  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.5    5 years ago
Is it now?

Yes, READ Cohen's charging documents. 

Which statute declares that a candidate for president has to tell the public about all the people he's ever slept with?

There is none. Yet any thinking person knows that this issue isn't about who Trump slept with...

Sure, but it's not a crime unless he's dishonest under oath.

Well SOMEONE was dishonest under oath since Trump's campaign finance filings didn't document the illegal contributions by Cohen and Pecker. SOMEONE signed off on those filings in Trump's name [under oath].

BTW, that SOMEONE is MR. BRADLEY CRATE of Red Curve Solutions and it's on him to tell us whether he was informed of the donations. If he wasn't, only Trump can tell us why he withheld that information. 

Since the conservatives here insist that Obama is responsible for the infractions made by his campaign, only hypocrites would claim that Trump isn't responsible for the infractions of his campaign. 

So the only question now is, were the donations intentionally and willfully omitted from the financial filings and WHO caused that omission. 

Cohen has already pled guilty of intentionally and willfully making or facilitating donations that he KNEW were illegal. We will have to wait to find out in full what Weissleberg and Pecker testified to in front of the Grand Jury for the proof that Trump intentionally and willfully conspired to violate Campaign finance laws. Their testimony is what nailed Cohen and it can easily nail Trump. 

Trump insists that Cohen did NOT break Campaign finance law and shouldn't have pled guilty. One can only wonder why Trump is defending Cohen on those charges and those charges ONLY. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.2.7  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    5 years ago

Not used the way Trump does.  Even interns?  Trump, as usual takes his authority and pushes it to the point of abuse.  If only that was the worst thing he did or does.  Can barely summon the outrage because its so expected.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.2.8  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.5    5 years ago

What staff that Trump has left, who care for him, beg him not to testify for that very reason.

Trump is insane and can't help what he says. He lies out of a long-standing con-man habit.

   Sure, but it's not a crime unless he's dishonest under oath.

What a very low bar you set for the liar and chief. He tells lies everyday and will never testify under oath because every word he would say would be perjury.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.9  Tacos!  replied to  cjcold @6.2.8    5 years ago
What a very low bar you set

I'm not setting a bar. That's simply the context of the conversation. If you want to just talk generally about right and wrong, that's a different conversation.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @6    5 years ago
has been the characterization of perfectly ordinary (and common) behavior as unusual or even illegal

How often do you have your lawyer surreptitiously set up an LLC so you can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep your illicit affairs with porn stars and playboy playmates quiet during an election you're running in? How is any of that "perfectly ordinary"? It's definitely illegal as one of the parties has already been convicted on one count of unlawful corporate contributions and one count of excessive campaign contributions that have maximum 5 year prison sentences each and Trump is the "unindicted co-conspirator" in that case. So how is the supposed "msm" misreporting this? How are they supposedly "fake news" in regards to how they report about Republicans who break the law?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
7  bbl-1    5 years ago

GOP wrongly treated by the media?  How could that possibly be?  Perhaps it is because the TGOP of the Trump has branded the media as unamerican, an enemy of the people and a purveyor of fake news.

It is apparent that 'the media' has yet to get with the Trumpian program.  After all, the infallibility of the Trump is...…………..sent to us by gawd, the Pillow Guy said so.  This can't be that hard to figure out, can it? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9  Dulay    5 years ago
Look at the fourth paragraph. It's right fucking there.

Well gee Sean, let's look. This is what Vic quoted, note the quotation marks:

"By autumn 2015, the FBI knew that the DNC servers had been hacked and that Russian operatives were surely the culprit. The Times reported as much on December 13, 2016." 

Here's the 4th paragraph:

Yared Tamene, the tech-support contractor at the D.N.C. who fielded the call, was no expert in cyberattacks. His first moves were to check Google for “the Dukes” and conduct a cursory search of the D.N.C. computer system logs to look for hints of such a cyberintrusion. By his own account, he did not look too hard even after Special Agent Hawkins called back repeatedly over the next several weeks — in part because he wasn’t certain the caller was a real F.B.I. agent and not an impostor.

So WHERE is it Sean? 

Because it's tiresome to constantly  feed you the same information over and over because you refuse to engage substantively.   

I think that your 'It's right fucking there' comments only qualifies as feeding me FALSE information Sean.

How many posts in this thread have been dedicated to your inability to successfully read the link posted by Vic?

One more than you've spent failing to supply a link to what Vic quoted. 

I'm starting to think that he made that shit up, what do you think? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @9    5 years ago

I'll say it again...

Because the article was linked to.  Don't ask to be continuously spoon fed information if you can't  even be bothered to read the provided links.

Does playing these silly little games seem like a productive use of time to you?   

So WHERE is it Sean? 

Linked to by Vic in comment 3.2.13.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.1    5 years ago
I'll say it again...

Which merely makes it MORE obtuse. 

I can't help but wonder why y'all think that making demonstrably false statements, over and over again, adds anything to the discussion. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @9.1.1    5 years ago

Does playing these silly little games seem like a productive use of time to you?    

Even after being spoon fed the link, you still can't engage substantively.  Sad. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.1.2    5 years ago

We have similar experience here 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
9.1.4  bbl-1  replied to  Dulay @9.1.1    5 years ago

It should be apparent by now that 'The Goebbels Philosophy' does have its merit and success---especially with the guidance and tutoring of advanced Russian propaganda on an American population somewhat populated by a percentage which takes actual pride in membership of 'the weak and insipid' class. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.4    5 years ago

More condescending arrogance directed at those who dare to presume to disagree with a progressive.  

 
 

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