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House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting

  

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Via:  1stwarrior  •  5 years ago  •  40 comments

House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting

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House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.

The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.

“We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

The 228-197 vote came as part of a broader debate on Democrats’ major legislative priority this year, HR 1, the “For the People Act,” which includes historic expansions of voter registration and access, as well as a major rewrite of campaign finance laws.

The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed non-citizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.

But Republicans had hoped to send a message to localities such as San Francisco, where non-citizens are now allowed to vote in school board elections.

“It sounds like I’m making it up. What kind of government would cancel the vote of its own citizens, and replace it with non-citizens?” said Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Texas Republican.

He pointed to last year’s vote, when 49 Democrats joined the GOP to decry noncitizen voting.

On Friday just six Democrats voted in favor.

A 1996 federal law prohibits non-citizens from voting in federal elections, but there is no prohibition on localities, and indeed a number of jurisdictions allow it, to some extent.

Famously liberal Takoma Park, a small jurisdiction in Maryland, has for several decades allowed non-citizens, including illegal immigrants, to vote in local elections.

Experts say as many as 40 states or territories allowed non-citizen voting dating back to the nation’s founding.

San Francisco in July began allowing non-citizens to vote in school board elections — though they must be parents or legal guardians of students.


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1stwarrior
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1  seeder  1stwarrior    5 years ago

The 228-197 vote came as part of a broader debate on Democrats’ major legislative priority this year, HR 1, the “For the People Act,” which includes historic expansions of voter registration and access, as well as a major rewrite of campaign finance laws.

Folks - with these Democrats in office, the U.S. is futched - totally futched.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  1stwarrior @1    5 years ago

What a bunch of unmitigated horse manure on the part of the Democrats! Further proof of how low they will sink just to expand their voter base...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  1stwarrior @1    5 years ago

The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed non-citizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.

As you were saying?  I see someone’s busy firing up the old manufactured outrage machine.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2    5 years ago

Yeah, kind of like that "manufactured crisis" at the Mexican border that the left wingers are so proud of firing up right?jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    5 years ago

The Washington Times?  Not a reputable source.

Also, doesn't this relate to the places where the immigrants are allowed to vote on the school boards where their children are enrolled and NOT IN ACTUAL ELECTIONS?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2    5 years ago
Also, doesn't this relate to the places where the immigrants are allowed to vote on the school boards where their children are enrolled and NOT IN ACTUAL ELECTIONS?

Don't know where you live, but MANY places have ELECTIONS for school boards. Perhaps you have heard of that before?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    5 years ago
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Texan1211
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2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    5 years ago

Removed for context [SP]

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Tessylo @2    5 years ago

Overall, we rate The Washington Post Left-Center biased due to story selection that favors the left and factually High due to the use of proper sources.

Sure am glad we don't follow your standards for sources.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2    5 years ago

'Overall, we rate The Washington Post Left-Center biased due to story selection that favors the left and   factually High due to the use of proper sources.

Sure am glad we don't follow your standards for sources.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/'

Your source is the Washington Times, not the Washington Post, Duh

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A   factual search   reveals that The Washington Times has failed two fact checks that can be read   here   and   here .

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1stwarrior
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2.2.2  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    5 years ago

Wow - you actually read the seed jrSmiley_28_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.2    5 years ago

So no comment on your false source?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.4  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.3    5 years ago

Just have to allow you to be almost right for once.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.3    5 years ago

Why? You just proved for him he did use a legitimate source.

  • Although the Washington Times has a very strong right editorial bias, they report straight news with a much lower bias. Therefore, we rate them Right-Center biased overall, and factually mixed due to poor sourcing, holding editorial postition that are contrary to scientific consensus, and failed fact checks.

This is straight news, not an editorial. 

Thanks for playing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2    5 years ago
The Washington Times?  Not a reputable source.

No?  Who says so?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3  It Is ME    5 years ago

"House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections"

It all REALLY makes sense now !jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  It Is ME @3    5 years ago

Open borders is next on their agenda - that they've been pushing strong for for many years.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1    5 years ago
Open borders is next on their agenda - that they've been pushing strong for for many years.

Makes one wonder if the "Queen of the Democrats"....Pelosi....will abdicate her thrown (Toilet) to the "Stupid" Newbies on this !

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1    5 years ago
Open borders is next on their agenda - that they've been pushing strong for for many years.

We've all seen that straw man before, just like the one about Dems taking all your guns away or Obama coming with black hawk helicopters to take all the white Christians to Fema camps. I've never been for "open borders" though I'm not concerned that we don't have a contiguous physical barrier to either the north or the south, we don't need them. I support the 2nd amendment and religious freedom, I just happen to understand that you can support both of those things while also supporting universal background checks and the right of Muslims to build mosques anywhere a Church would be allowed regardless of how close to "ground zero" they are.

So if you have a real beef with actual progressive policies, state them, but stop with the rhetorical straw man arguments where you claim all liberals are gay, atheist, anti-2nd amendment, pro-abortion entitlement vampires. Doing so only furthers the divide between conservatives and reality.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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3.1.3  MonsterMash  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.1    5 years ago

Makes one wonder if the "Queen of the Democrats"....Pelosi....will abdicate her thrown (Toilet) to the "Stupid" Newbies on this !

 

Pelosi is Speaker of the House in name only she's now just a puppet having her strings pulled by Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of the new far left radicals.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.4  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.2    5 years ago

I'm sorry DP, but the Dems have no actual progressive policies other than establishing their power base, aborting after 9 months, allowing Illegal Aliens to vote, etc.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.2    5 years ago
just like the one about Dems taking all your guns away

They're working on it.

The Democrat house just Okay'd two new gun laws they are trying to get through to the Senate.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.4    5 years ago
I'm sorry DP, but the Dems have no actual progressive policies other than establishing their power base, aborting after 9 months, allowing Illegal Aliens to vote, etc.

That's total hogwash and you know it. Illegal immigrants aren't voting, late term abortions are only allowed when it's to save the life of the mother. But yes, Democrats are trying to reestablish their power to enact positive change in America. I support gun rights, the 2nd amendment and universal background checks. I support a woman's right to choose up to viability, and I support a doctor and a patient deciding the patients life outweighs that of an unborn fetus if the life of the mother is at risk even after viability. I don't want anyone who is ineligible to vote to cast a single ballot, and I want everyone who is eligible to vote to be able to vote which is why I do not support the GOP voter ID laws that were found to intentionally target eligible minorities disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of eligible voters. The fantasy straw man you have created in your mind of "the Dem's" simply doesn't exist anywhere but in the minds of paranoid religious conservatives who think everything they dislike is a machination of the devil trying to erode white Christian values.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.7  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    5 years ago

I guess just because you say so, it is so, eh?

Do you have a Driver's License?  Do you cash checks?  Do you use a bank?  Do you have a credit card?  Do you own a car?  Do you own a home? The VRA requires proper identification for elections.  Finding someone's electric/utility bill with their name and address on it is NOT proper identification.

There is a lot right in what you say - but there is a lot wrong, and one of the biggest is that "christianity" is not the divining power in government - remember?

 
 
 
lib50
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3.1.8  lib50  replied to  MonsterMash @3.1.3    5 years ago

That's funny, you are describing the gop, who has totally prostrated themselves to Trump, losing their old policies and values along the way.  Democrats have always had a more robust group and welcome more ideas.  You guys are bad at describing liberals.

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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3.1.9  Cerenkov  replied to  lib50 @3.1.8    5 years ago

Hogwash. Try harder.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.7    5 years ago
I guess just because you say so, it is so, eh?

No, not because I say it's so, because the courts have concluded it to be so.

" In its ruling,  the appeals court said  the law was intentionally designed to discriminate against black people. North Carolina GOP legislators had requested data on voting patterns by race and, with that data in hand, drafted a law that would "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision ," the court said.

"This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

" Do you have a Driver's License?"

Funny thing, at the moment my license is expired. I went in to the DMV to get it renewed but because I live in a place where they have no numbered addresses and no mail delivery (every gets a free PO Box in my small town) the DMV requires a bunch of extra paperwork (lease and utility bills) showing parcel numbers which I couldn't find and had to request a new lease copy since it had been several years. So even though I live in an affluent area with a DMV near by, I still have to wait a week or so to get what I need to go to the DMV to get my license renewed. Are there elderly people, disabled, and those living in poverty that aren't able to maintain a valid drivers license? Absolutely. But that's no reason to throw their voice and vote away, all based on the bullshit lie that illegal immigrants are somehow voting in large numbers when the evidence shows the exact opposite.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.11  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.10    5 years ago

My issue is this - the U.S. Constitution specifically states, in three amendments, that voting is a right for "Citizens of the United States".  Illegal Aliens are not citizens of the U. S. - so, per the U.S. Constitution, they have no right to vote.  Nothing done by Congress, i.e. Constitutional Amendment, has changed the right for U. S. Citizens to vote nor have any been introduced to amend the Constitution to all Illegal Aliens to vote - period.

Sure, understand what you're saying - ND is attempting to stop Native Americans from voting - MT is attempting to stop Native Americans from voting - ID is attempting to stop Native Americans from voting.  Hey, they are U. S. Citizens and those states are attempting to stop U. S. Citizens from voting, but the Democratic Congress, with all its wisdom and stupidity, wants to allow ILLEGAL ALIENS to have the right to vote when, as you've mentioned and as I just pointed out, U. S. Citizens are being prohibited.

Kinda futched up, eh?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    5 years ago
I do not support the GOP voter ID laws that were found to intentionally target eligible minorities disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of eligible voters.

Can you prove that minority voters were disenfranchised by simply asking for an ID?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.15  Vic Eldred  replied to    5 years ago

Thank you, my friend

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4  Sparty On    5 years ago

Actions like this are going to blow up in their faces and blow big in 2020.  

This keeps up I predict a massive win for Reps in the House and Senate.

Keep it up dipshits!   

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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4.1  Cerenkov  replied to  Sparty On @4    5 years ago

Sandy the bartender is a gift to conservatives. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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5  Rmando    5 years ago

Sometimes there's just nothing more to say about a party that has zero respect for sovereignty or the rule of law.

 
 
 
charger 383
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6  charger 383    5 years ago

Illegal immigrants should not be here in first place so this should have never become an issue

All voting records should be checked for outstanding warrants before elections

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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7  seeder  1stwarrior    5 years ago

Today I offered a motion to recommit # HR1 reaffirming that only US citizens should have the right to vote. Dems rejected it. Next time you go to the ballot box, keep that in mind. The future of their party is in cities like San Fran, where illegals can vote. Let that sink in.

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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7.1  Cerenkov  replied to  1stwarrior @7    5 years ago

That's pretty obvious proof that Dems are traitors to the nation.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago

If illegal immigrants can vote, what's the chance of my being able to vote in an American election?  There was a time when I owned property in Florida.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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8.1  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8    5 years ago

I'll vouch fer ya.

 
 

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