Unbelievable
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“Pastor” and “Christian radio” host E.W. Jackson says that the Green New Deal will mean mass-executions for climate-change deniers .
Republican Texas state Rep. Bill Zedler says that vaccination is unnecessary because “antibiotics” can cure measles .
More than 22,000 Twitter users retweeted a warning that “ There is a thing called ‘Momo’ that’s instructing kids to kill themselves . INFORM EVERYONE YOU CAN.”
Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that “Democrats are harassing the president to distract from their radical agenda of making America a socialist country, killing babies after they’re born, and pushing a ‘green new deal’ that would destroy jobs and bankrupt America.”
Missouri minivan driver and accused arsonist Wesley Bryan Kaster says that “Planned Parenthood kills people.”
Here we have multiple examples of people telling us what they believe. And in every case, what they claim to “believe” is unbelievable. Their purported beliefs are literally in-credible — which is to say they have no credibility.
And yet here are several people claiming to believe such not-credible beliefs. This renders all of these people untrustworthy. We cannot trust them — cannot believe them. We cannot believe them not just because what they are telling us is false — wildly, obviously, demonstrably false — but because we cannot believe that they believe it themselves. Not only can we not trust what they say they believe, we cannot trust them when they say they believe it.
The bigger problem, in other words, is not that these people have “bad facts,” but that they are speaking in bad faith.
We are often lectured that we must never presume to say such a thing — that any accusation of bad faith or malicious intent is so taboo that we must avoid such a presumption or even such a conclusion at all costs. We are told that intent is unknowable and inscrutable and mysterious. We cannot read other people’s minds or know for sure what is in their hearts.
“W hat comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles,” Jesus said, “ For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander.”
And yet we are constantly told that it is forbidden to retrace what comes out of the mouth back to the heart from whence it comes. We are told that it is not permitted, or not possible, to observe the process Jesus describes.
And so we deny any consideration of the possibility of bad faith, and thus deny the existence of bad faith, and thus empower those who have weaponized bad faith in service of theft, false witness, slander, etc.
And thus we also empower those willfully gullible dupes who in turn empower the weaponizers of bad faith. We bend over backwards to say, “Well, hold on, maybe those thousands of people retweeting nonsense about Momo just didn’t know any better.” We extend them an innocence based on ignorance, pretending that ignorance is not an active, conscious choice . The truth and the evidence of that truth was only a few clicks away, but they forwarded their “Momo” warnings without bothering to check not because they didn’t know any better, but because they didn’t want to know any better. Because knowing better would’ve spoiled all of the titillating fun.
And, again, acknowledging that does not require any magical “mind-reading” powers. Their bad faith is observable and evident. They purport to be fearful and concerned and upset by this news of evil “Momo” messengers preying on children. If that claim was made in good faith, then these folks would be relieved to learn that it’s all a hoax and a lie. “Oh, thank God,” they would say. But they do not say this and they are not relieved, because they preferred to go on pretending that it was true. Confronted with the evidence of the hoax they had chosen to avoid glancing at, they get angry and resentful to have it pointed out to them.
Rick Wiles responds the same way when confronted with evidence that liberals are not out to put him in a concentration camp. E.W. Jackson responds the same way when confronted with the evidence that efforts to save the lives that will be lost to climate change do not in any way involve executing climate-change deniers. Sarah Huckabee Sanders responds the same way when confronted with the evidence that millions of Americans are not Satanic baby-killers advocating infanticide. Such evidence angers her because it spoils all the fun she’s having imagining how virtuous she would seem in a fantasy world in which it’s her vs. the evil baby-killers.
The use of bad faith as a political weapon has become so prevalent now, involving so many ludicrously over-the-top claims that we barely even bother noticing when Alex Jones or the NRA pushes the idea that the mass-shootings in New Zealand were a “false flag” conducted by some Islamo-Communist lefty.
This brazenly bad-faith garbage has become so common, with so many people claiming to believe things we all know they do not and cannot believe, that it startles us when some disturbed individual takes them seriously. A delusional teenager in Oklahoma kills his parents believing that they’re part of a QAnon-style conspiracy of Satanists. A meth-addled Ohio man kidnaps his neighbor , imprisoning her in a hole beneath his shed, because he’s trying to “rescue” her from a Satanic cabal of deep-state sex-traffickers.
We regard such people as not being in their right minds not because their actions do not flow rationally from what they claim to believe, but because it is tragically irrational for them to be treating such obviously bad-faith claims as good-faith truths. We don’t suspect that Wiles or Jackson or Sanders is a danger to themselves or to others due to a psychotic breakdown because we know that none of them takes their own claims seriously. We know they do not believe what they are saying and so we don’t expect them to ever act as though the outlandish things they are saying were true.
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NewsTalkers.........
Based on how Christians are treated lately in the media and on internet sites the feelings expressed are reasonable and entirely justified.
Thank you for demonstrating the applicability of the seed to NewsTalkers.
You mean like how we can’t even discuss how google/you tube fascist biased bigots censor our point of view on their site here?
Isn't there an emoji for a steaming pile of shit regarding your eternal 'victimhood' status from the 'fascist biased bigots'?
That's a steaming pile right there.
Says the person who posts seeds from Christian Dominion sites.
I will say what a complete idiot that Texas state rep Bill Zedler is. Measles is caused by a virus, to which antibiotics do not cure and are totally ineffective. Antibiotics are however sometimes given for viruses as a secondary treatment because the body's defenses are lowered leaving it susceptible to bacterial infections.
That guy Wiles sounds pretty cluless as well..
Thank-you, Ed. You're pretty smart for a navy guy
Well I wouldn't have noticed till you seeded this article. I even had to look up who Alex Jones was, although I knew.
I wouldn't worry about his jaw jacking it doesn't get much press. I would be more worried about the politicians now selling "Democratic" Socialism. That is going to Burn democrats in the 2020 election.
Do you often feel you have to look up someone or something-- even though you know who they/it are?
But but, Alex Jones is mainstream and always accurate...Did you know that he is 106% Comanche.
Inquiring minds ya know.
LOL, I'm call BS on that. It's a scientific fact that anyone in public notoriety claiming Native Ancestry are 100% Cherokee. That's a fact, or something...
With all the people professing Indian ancestry, I'm beginning to wonder if my lifelong comfort and friendship with Indians means that back up in my tree I could have some Indian ancestry myself.
Go to Ancestry.com and get the DNA test - $99.00
Ya know is Indian name is ''Walking Eagle'', since he is so full of shit that he can't fly.
I did that and mine came back that I was a directly related to Eric the Red...
I found this to be a bit strange since everyone knows that I don't have red hair. (talk about a double meaning)
You never know Buzz.
Once on this very board I called Julia and Irina about as white as you can get. That is true of Irina, but for Julia, the Mongol in her jumps right out and say "Here I am".
I would like her to take one of these genetic tests to see how close she may be us (for me on my paternal side).
I saw my paternal grandfather. There is no guess.
Take the test, who knows what you might find?
LOL, there you go, now that's a match.
Yep, and I am sure a casino would not be involved with the tribe or reservation in question.
Its all about reincarnation...(a view long held on the Indian subcontinent, BTW
No, but Red does and - well, according to my Biology class - there's this thing called osmosis . . . . . . . . .
OMG, osmosis...LOL, not going there.
It’s on sale for $59.99 now.
I grew up in upstate NY...I was a Mohawk until my hair fell out.
Then I was a direct relative of Ghandi..or something. (Really cuz I sucked at doing the "Curley Shuffle")
Wait for the 69 dollar sale. That's when I bought mine
Do you think Julia might be related to Genghis Khan?
LOL, now that's a thought.
Then again knowing the habits of old Genghis there, anything is possible.
I saw something once where researchers did a mass DNA study of Asian people and so many of them were related to Genghis Khan. Since he was Mongolian and you said Julia is Mongolian that's why I asked.
So... He's in the Wanabee Tribe?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised.
Just to set the record straight, I can tell by looking at her that she is Asian and only play the numbers game and some visual characteristics when I claim Mongol when it comes to people with Asian characteristics in that region.
Don't ask her, she flatly state she is Ukranian!!!
Like folks on this side of the Atlantic, who are 95% Native will lately state they are 100% of Spanish descent.
At least my mentor and best friend for decades had an inkling he was Native. Looking back and knowing what I now know (thank you Kavika), I would bet what ever money I have remaining he was 100% Taino.
Back to Julia, that Genghis Khan theory just might explain this behaviour:
Just don't look to closely at how she is holding that thing and she is obviously qualified on that older hardware too.
Maybe this is part of that new Ukrainian strategy to tempt enemy forces to raise the white flag and beg to be captured?
Correct.
In fact. did you know that Alex Jones may be the illegitimate spawn of Elizabeth Warren?
Huh? I thought it was Glenn Beck.
Rumors.....
Hysteria is apparently becoming the new norm.
Or maybe it's the not so new norm....
Working in Chicago in the days following the election, I turned on the sports radio station for what I assumed would be local sports talk. Instead, I got two very liberal hosts having a meltdown about how Trump's election spelled the end of America. One of the hosts, obviously Jewish, related how his asked him as we putting him in bed if Trump's election meant that he, as a Jew, would be rounded up and put in a camp.
The host, and father of the year candidate, said, told his son that it was a possibility. Imagine telling a school age kid the President, who has Jewish grandchildren, would round up Jewish kids and put them in camps.
I guess I should have seeded an article about to use this example of media host in a major market to claim liberals weaponize bad faith arguments and brainwash kids.
Liberals do exactly that.
What? Post ridiculous articles claiming the intent of their political adversaries?
Realiy? That's your opinion? Sounds more like an M.O. of a particular seeder.
Please do. It will be a fun moment or two watching your seed get embarrassingly trounced by facts in 20 or so comments.
Why? You don't know what they are?
You always seem to be gone when they arrive. Must be just bad timing.
Maybe these liberals got the idea from Obama's army of "jack booted thugs" who were going to take our guns away 10 years ago. Of course, that never happened either.
oh...trust me....Democrats are going to use the words of Jacinda Ardern to further their wanted agenda !
Amazing what one can declare a national emergency these days huh?
Thanks Trump.
Actually, no, thank you 1976 Congress.
Get your facts straight, eh?
For sure.
This was one of my most bestest fav's of all !
"Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi (Nov. 23, 2015)"
My facts are straight. I wasn't advocating for a shallow response...sigh.
Trump's political tactic by bypassing congress using the emergency powers act opens the door...
So, Thanks Trump.
Think you can keep up from here or should I check back?
"Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that “Democrats are harassing the president to distract from their radical agenda of making America a socialist country, killing babies after they’re born, and pushing a ‘green new deal’ that would destroy jobs and bankrupt America.”
Is that Statement wrong ?
We've all read and heard the "Ideas" ..... out of the "Mouths of Democrat Babes" on those issues !
I'll add.... "Democrats want to pack the supreme court too" !
None of this is exactly new. Neither hyperbole nor non-civility are new concepts in US (or human) history. Nor is religious crazy. I do refuse to accept that many of these spewers of bug-fuck-crazy really truly believe the shit that comes out their mouths. Just by statistical chance a few of them must and I worry how they can function in a modern society without being medicated for the protection of self and others.
Wow, those claims are almost as believable as "Republicans are going to push Granny over a cliff".
Christian radio” host Rick Wiles says that liberals are intent on putting white Christians into concentration camps.
Only the white ones? Hmmmmmmmmm.
And just the male ones.
Remember the guy arrested for mailing bombs last October - He had that van plastered with pro-Trump and anti-Democrat stickers? That was Cesar Sayoc and he pled guilty yesterday afternoon to 65 criminal counts related to using weapons of mass destruction and transporting explosives.
His intended victims were former Vice President Joseph Biden, Senator Cory Booker, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, CNN, Robert De Niro, Senator Kamala Harris, former Attorney General Eric Holder, former President Barack Obama, George Soros, Thomas Steyer, and Representative Maxine Waters.
So what?! The real danger is antifa!!
The "Wiles Manifestation' is not unbelievable in the least.
Very recently, Pompeo asserted that 'the Trump' was sent by gawd to save Israel, even mentioning the biblical Ester who was the first female queen of Persia--modern day Iran.
"Grab em' by the pu**y," is ordained by gawd. Get in order or get out. The Trump is holy.
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